Welcome Debbie ! Hope you'll stick around.

It's fascinating how the www makes you hear stories about your heroes from the people who actually where there. Just think about it, Ed Roach, Steve Desper and now Debbie Keil. Plus the insiders of today of course like Mark Linett and Alan Boyd, etc. Man this board is the best around for Beach Boys-fans.

Check this out from Blondie's website: http://www.blondiechaplin.com/BBHolland.htm


And be sure to take a look at the rest of the site with some great music from the man himself. The videosection has a live SOS from '07

Here She Comes and Hold on Dear Brother might just be my two favorite songs on the album.

That steel guitar solo on "Brother" is just killer. Never get tired of hearing that

Hahaha, once I mentioned Jerry Lee with his "Cousin Wife" and a guy told me: "You don´t know anything about him, read his Biographie that you know it´s a lie" *lol*

Put If I am not mistaken, the "Myrna Brown Scandal" only occured in England wasn´t it? Because in some states it was allowed to marry a cousin and even a girl that was 13... but in England it wasn´t. So it´s all weird. Because today - in some states of the US - you can go to prison for only kissing a girl that is under 18. And that´s a bit strange...

It came out in Britain but the impact it had in the USA was nearly the same.

It is true that in deep down Lousiana where JLL comes from, it isn't unusual to marry cousins.

Oh, and yes, it is a lie. She was/is only his 2nd cousin.... if that makes any difference

Yikes. I never read that Brian was interested in Barbara. That's really disgusting. As I understood it, he met Marilyn and Diane at the same time and liked both of them. But he was dating someone else (maybe even engaged) and didn't get involved with Marilyn until a little later (maybe she was 15 by then?). He remained interested in Diane but ended up with Marilyn because she was more outgoing and nurturing sister and therefore she and Brian got on well and became close. Then there's that interview with Tony Asher where he claims that Wouldn't It Be Nice came from a conversation with Brian where Brian was musing about how it would be nice if he could sleep with Diane just once. Is this true, or bullmerda? Brian doesn't let go easily, I don't think. He still seems quite close to Marilyn in some ways. Hey, Melinda was in her 40s when they got married. At least he didn't marry a 20-year-old at age 55 or whatever he was.

Because rich rock stars never rob the cradle. 

Harmless....

Cool. It would be ncie to have the whole appearance on the beach...

I know it's not the entire performance but have you seen these?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DopGAW2-Z2k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leFjcKhTxPM&feature=related

Yeah, I saw those. Thanks though. Do you know the setlist? "School days" was new to me

Here She Comes and Hold On Dear Brother sound too similar to each other.

I disagree big time.

Funny, I've got a feeling that I'm the only one who thinks that it's not the two Chaplin/Fataar songs, that don't fit with the rest, but the two Dennis-songs and "All this is that". Replace them with stuff like "California ride" and you'd have a very enjoyable rock-album, and nothing would sound too much out of place

If there should be a reunion and if Blondie and Ricky were featured, this song should be recorded:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCBWPGXmK7A

Check out School Days live in Hawaii 1980!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxT-r4nTkFs&feature=sub

Cool. It would be ncie to have the whole appearance on the beach...

Here's a demo by Blondie. Sounds kinda Beach Boys-like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCBWPGXmK7A

I've always wondered just how much of the raw tape(s) was "fixed". Going by AGD's website, it seems like this and the July 4th 1980 show were heavily worked on. On the July 4th video, it's rather obvious that the drums have been overdubbed. That's why they're so loud.

Well, they're so loud because the mix is just terrible. I don't know who did it but it's just bad.....

I believe it was Desper. 

Well, I'm pretty sure that Desper would've done a very good mix. That said, all I can judge from is a DVD-copy of the video. Maybe the sound is better on the "real" product, but on my copy it's just dry, lifeless and in no ways rocking. Love the Knebworth-mix though, that one is very good.

As Metal Flake Paint pointed out it's Billy Hinsche filling in for an absent Dennis. I alwazys thought that record was funny.

I believe they were talking about that mask between Al and Mike, which I didn't notice until the question came up....

This Willie Nelson 'Warmth Of The Sun' track with Matt. No Carl unless he was added later. (some here could tell by the mix I guess)

Carl was probably added later, as you can hear him on the recording.  But yes, it could work, they only have to do just that, work

I love "So tough". I'd say it is one of my favorite 70s albums (can't give a number, sorry). But I think that they should've gone on with what side one promised: a very Rock- or R'n'B-album (how about a 70s Wild Honey-album?). Dennis' songs and "All this is that" (which I all love) don't fit in there. There are certainly better albums as a whole (Holland for example) but I like this one very much.


Oh, and I love the title

I'm in favor of them trying it. Even if Carl and/or Dennis were still alive, in 2009, the harmony blend would not be the same anyway. All of their voices have changed over the years.

The blend wasn't already the same when Dennis was still alive.
Brian's and Dennis' voices changed dramatically around the mid-70s and also Mike's went through a change, becoming very nasal and losing some deepnes imo. I'd even say that, except for a few lucky occasions, the magic was gone by '76/'77

[1970]

Is this from '71 during the "My solution"-sessions?

Yes, Halloween 1970 (October 31).

Those damn dates.... 

But I was always wondering why the Beach Boys played "Rock´n´Roll woman" during their 1968 tour...

Probably inspired by Buffalo Springfield with whom they toured together.

You know, to me it doesn't make too much sense to sell the rights to a song you have written, 'cause in time you'll probably make much more money if you keep the rights for yourself (and the song is any good )

Well... fer one thing the American Band video hails from 1985, and isn't out of print at all... as for the claims that Carl & Denny sold their songs to the Springfield... 

Thanks. I thought I was going crazy because I'd never hear about that....

At the end of the main set, before the encore Mike says something like "We are going back to California where the surfs up and the suns out!" then one of the Beach Boys (Carl?) yells something like "SURFS OUT!". Am I hearing this right?

The rainy England weather seemed to be a source of consternation with Mike on the Live in London LP as well.

It's Al yelling "Sun's out".
I guess, no matter where you are, a Beach Boys concert and rain just doesn't seem to fit very good

I've always wondered just how much of the raw tape(s) was "fixed". Going by AGD's website, it seems like this and the July 4th 1980 show were heavily worked on. On the July 4th video, it's rather obvious that the drums have been overdubbed. That's why they're so loud.

Well, they're so loud because the mix is just terrible. I don't know who did it but it's just bad.....

Note: Billy Hinsche behind mask, far right.

No, no, no !! How great is that !? Thanks for posting !
Is this from '71 during the "My solution"-sessions?

[It's just coming to light that this track and several other tracks may actually have been composed by Dennis Wilson & Carl Wilson or Brian WIlson and the track and copyrights sold in order to recoupe losses the band were going through from sluggish sales of "Smiley SMiLE, Friends, Wild Honey & 20/20".]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84HYDHX9QLU

This video should be familiar to most of you, but I was irritated by the description the poster wrote:

Rare awesome tour footage including a 2 minute cover of Buffalo Springfield's classic "Rock and Roll Woman". Plus tour clip highlights from the bands 1968 European tour. Clip is taken from the rare out of print 1988 documentary "An American Band". It's just coming to light that this track and several other tracks may actually have been composed by Dennis Wilson & Carl Wilson or Brian WIlson and the track and copyrights sold in order to recoupe losses the band were going through from sluggish sales of "Smiley SMiLE, Friends, Wild Honey & 20/20". It also just was recently discovered that Dennis Wilson actually did co-write "You are so Beautiful" with Billy Preston in 1974. But who knows..Either way it's a great version of this track.

Anyone like to comment?

I just thought he added a vocal that wasn't in the studio cut.

Yes, that's what he did. But that's more singing than he did for the rest of the concert, excluding "Surfer girl" and "Sloop John B".

I can't quite say for sure, but I've heard the Good Timin for Knebworth and Brian messes up, slightly but noticeably, on the first chorus and although there is a lot of overdubbing on the album/DVD, I'm pretty sure all of the lead vocals are completely live. In fact I'm damn sure of that, as I remember Boyd or Linnett saying it on this site. So I think they didn't include it because Brian messed up.

What did Brian mess up? I've heard the version, and I don't remember any mistakes in it.

Same here. I just listened to "Good timin'" and without paying to much attention, I didn't recognize any big mistake. On the other hand, the quality of course is not great and maybe it would be better to hear on a official release

So, why exactly was GT left off of the Knebworth-DVD? I heard the performance, which is very good imo and you'd have another Brian-vocal in there. And what about the other songs? Although I could live without a live version of "Some of your love", there are other songs that would've been nice to hear/see

I don't think this was posted before:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oyh04NibZUc

There seems to be a guy in there who worked with Brian at Goldstar. Anyone know who he is? Couldn't hear (or understand) any name

And another interview from around the same time:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSy-p1Lejfw&feature=related