It's definitely true. Stop a random person on the street and say "The Beach Boys". You won't hear anything about Pet Sounds. You'll get people singing the sunny songs. The only exception : Charles Manson singing "In My Room" to Geraldo Rivera on a televised interview (which is on YouTube).

Could you post a link to that? Would be interesting to hear it

I'd like to know how far you guys are.... Any problems or other things?

I won't be able to finish Sloop anytime soon...too much going on unfortunately.  Maybe next time around.

Too bad. Was looking forward to hearing it.
But you're right, I think if this turns out good and everyone enjoys it, then maybe we could do a vol. 2 or maybe do such a thing every once in a while. There are enough songs to choose from I guess...

Another Beach Boys myth: They were already covering Dick Dale's version of Sloop John B in their live set in 1962 & 1963  (before Al came back to the band)

I think on one of the bootlegs that came out the last years ("garage tapes" or "in the beginning") there's a version of Sloop John B.. Private recording from very early 60s. Not that I have actually heard that stuff...

I also used to think that Dean might have been part of the spoken parts at the end of "Mulholland." But having heard the source tapes, that's pretty much ruled out. But Jan IS part of that, and it's extended from what people have heard, and funny as hell.

That's funny. I always thought that "wait a second baby" sounded alot like Jan


EDIT:
BTW found this pic of J&D and Dennis on the official Jan Berry-site. Shot by Ed Roach:

Beach Boys' video for "Hot fun in the summertime" (Carl looks so cool !!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNJJ6bdjwF4&feature=rec-HM-fresh+div


Just for fun, here's the original:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ahhmiuyko0&feature=related


This was new to me, it says that it's Brian singing lead (I'm sure though that it is Bob Norberg) and the Honey's on background vocals:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fnZs4RQCAQ&feature=related


And from the "Garage tapes"-boot "Marie"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9v0YnKgHNj4&feature=related

The New York Times gave Smiley Smile a quite flattering review in 1967...I found it in a library database once when I should have been studying, it was very interesting.

Any chance you could post that?

I guess it's just normal. My two brothers look like sh!t while I am beautiful as can be.....

































 

I'd like to know how far you guys are.... Any problems or other things?

[What the heck was this, Rocker???]

What the heck was this, Rocker???

Just found it on my hard drive. Can't remember where I got it from originally (somewhere on the web for sure). But I like it....


EDIT:

In the right corner below it says "Denny's drums circa 1964..... how Picasso is that?"

And the name of the file on my pc says something with "Dumb Angel", so it could come from the magazine, but that doesn't explain the picture itself of course.....

Did the Boys play there too?

"Funky pretty" has leadvocals from everyone, except Dennis and Ricky (and Brian, though he can clearly be heard on the backgroundvocals). Same goes for the liveversion

@Rocker: I think I meant the plural you and not the singular "you"... 

I'd guess so, but where did anyone say that most of the songs were written in the 70s ? Maybe I missed it, but I don't remember.

A DW drumstick from the late 60's

DW is also the name of a drum-company.... 

Nice to see this. Should be a collector's item, because with Dennis' way of playing, I wonder that a drumstick even survived one concert.... 

But I am wondering know.. .you said that Brian wrote most of the songs in the 70th? Huh?

Who said so?

Slowing down the tempo doesn't make you a 75%-writer of the song.

Nobody said it did.

Sorry, misunderstood your last post.

Let's see, he wrote the intro, the outro and, at least, some of the lyrics. I'd say it wouldn't be too crazy too call it a 50-50 collaboration

I may have missed something but every comment from Brian`s camp that I`ve read has stated that Scott wrote all of the lyrics. If he did then that is obviously 50% right there.

The music was a collaboration but it doesn`t really serve much purpose to debate exact percentages I guess.

I don't know if he wrote all of the lyrics or just most of it, therefor I was just careful how to say it.
I just think that lyrics are not that important to a composition that they alone would take 50%. Mike wrote all the lyrics to "California girls", but it still is a Brian-song to me. Anyway, we might make a more important thing out of it, as it actually is or should be

Rolling Stone magazine also has the all their reviews ever available on their website. I don't have a link off hand but I found that out from this site so if you search for Rolling Stone here you could probably find it.

Here's the link: http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/thebeachboys/reviews

Great ! Always wanted to read how "Wild honey" was received when it originally came out

Quick question: Out of the songs  you remember Brian working on during the time you spent with him, which was your favorite?

He called it "The Angel Song."  Much of it appeared in "Don't Let Her Know She's and Angel."...Wish it had a different mix when it finally came out...Didn't sound much like Brian to me when it was released many years later - very "dumbed down" from what I heard originally...

Debbie

Hey, thank you. That was new to me. So "Don't let her..." was also "begun" in the 70s...
Did you hear the "Sweet Insanity"-version? Is that more like what you remembere?

Back to Melinda: To be honest, I haven´t read this post myself. Someone posted a bit of it in the German Message Board with a german translation. And If I am not mistaken, it was the same guy who said, that Brian doesn´t write his himself anymore... maybe I should not believe these people anymore, should I ?

No, you should only trust me.....

Yes, Scott has said himself in an interview that he slowed down the original tempo and also changed the notes around. If, as AGD says, that he also wrote the intro and outro as well as all of the lyrics then 75% seems a fair estimation.

Slowing down the tempo doesn't make you a 75%-writer of the song.
Let's see, he wrote the intro, the outro and, at least, some of the lyrics. I'd say it wouldn't be too crazy too call it a 50-50 collaboration

a couple of years ago, Melinda posted somewhere in the Blueboard, that Brian doesn´t write any new songs anymore and that other songwriters do this for him now...

Even if it was true, Melinda would be the last person on earth to say so.....

A friend told me now, that he heard from an "insider", that Brian didn´t had anything to do with "That lucky old sun", that they just bought the songs from orhter songwriters and someone else did the production or anything like this. 

Since some of the songs were written by Brian in the 70s and 80s, I hardly believe it.

and it was also reported, that a Band member mentioned, that Scotty did the whole concept for LOS ... so

Well, the concept is a totally different thing, than the songs. I don't know about this, but wouldn't be that surprised if Brian just wrote the songs and someone else came up with the concept about L.A. (although Brian himself said that he was inspired when he bought and heard Satchmo's version of TLOS)

He said "Being single is like liking a Phil Spector record. There's no separation from the two." He doesn't actually explain HOW it's the same.

Brian's favorite Spector-record was a single, right?   

Honestly, I don't expect Pleasure Island to ever appear. Don't know why. Instinct.

I hope somethng appears...just not under the title, "Pleasure Island." It's a lame name for an album.

Well, what about "Fiji" ?

Thanks for posting the Riley-story !

This is "Smokey places", which the BBs used as part for "Sunshine":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTqH4_Y9juc


and (although in bad sound quality) "Little boy", which the BBs recorded as "Little girl", which then became the track to "Sunshine":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESvs4LDQ6cs

Really enjoyed The Complete Liberty Singles compilation, which certainly is among my most-played records of recent years.

Same here. Everyone should get this CD as it's the only place right now where you can hear Jan's original mono-mixes. I was very surprised at how different and (in all cases) better they do sound. The backgroundvocals on the stereoversions of "The little old lady from Pasadena", "The Anaheim,..." and "Batman" always soundedn kinda thin and a little uncontrolled to me, but the monomixes have the bass-vocals up (they are not very good to hear on the stereomixes) and it all comes togetehr fitting like a glove. Totally great !! Plus the instrumental tracks have alot more power too.


Something that I asked myself the last weeks:
Do you guys think that "George fell into his french horn" (the part were the instruments are actually playing) was in any way inspired or maybe an advanced version of what Jan did on "Dead man's curve" 's citation on "Pop symphony"?

Brian mentions Norwegian Wood while pointing out that the Beatles are so good because they can make their songs work with very basic and simple arrangements.  He mentions that if it were his song, he would have orchestrated it, put in background voices, etc.,

In fact that's what Jan&Dean did on their version