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76  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Sam C. Phillips/Sun Records - thread on: September 13, 2023, 11:52:16 AM
Lots of good stuff on here:


Determination and passion drove Sam Phillips to create Sun Records and change music forever, and Sun is celebrating his 100th birthday with a 2-LP anthology of songs he brought to life. The gatefold features archival photos and liners from Grammy-winning writer Robert Gordon about Phillips’ legendary legacy. Known as “The Man Who Invented Rock ’n’ Roll,” tracks from artists like Johnny Cash and Jerry Lee Lewis remind listeners what the Big Bang of rock and roll sounded like in 1950s Memphis.


https://store.sunrecords.com/product/X3LPSR63/where-rock-n-roll-was-born-celebrating-100-years-of-sam-phillips-lp-various-artists?cp=110846_112418_113737&






77  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Robert Johnson on: September 12, 2023, 01:06:23 PM
I've read "Biography of a phantom" and it's a very entertaining book. The term "dedective story" that is commonlyused to describe it fits perfectly. I wouldn't mind more stories like this.
The book also talks about McCormick's life and questionable (to say the least) behavior toward Robert Johnson's family. This seems to be neccessary as it explains a.o. why certain parts of the original manuscript were edited.
78  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: The Official BB You Tube Thread on: September 11, 2023, 01:56:53 PM
Now here's something:



BRIAN WILSON 2002 Interview and Performance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWjCqIA0sKU
79  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Pacific Ocean Blue and the WOW! Signal on: September 06, 2023, 10:10:09 AM
Thanks for the replies!

So, I guess the best way to start this would be to understand what a reasonable chart placing and number of records sold would've been. And of course radio airplay. Unfortunately the last matter can't be researched as I don't think there's any list about what stations played what singles how often.
80  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Any experience with Vampr? on: September 04, 2023, 10:55:49 AM
The title says it all. Does anybody have any experience  with that app? Is it worth using?

https://www.vampr.me/
81  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 1962, Riverside, CA on: September 03, 2023, 01:14:45 PM
Someone should put the author in contact with Ian
82  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: The *official* Brian/BB picture thread on: September 03, 2023, 03:25:26 AM
Just saw this on facebook. I don't remember seeing it before:


83  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: RIP Jimmy Buffet on: September 03, 2023, 02:06:44 AM
Let's not forget that Jimmy Buffet also co-wrote and sang backing vocals on Brian's "South American". Here's video of the two of them recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxQjphssSYI

R. I. P.
84  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Pacific Ocean Blue and the WOW! Signal on: August 27, 2023, 04:18:26 AM
I never cared much about on what day an album was released. Usually I'm fine if I know the year. Sometimes though, a specific release day makes you think about the fate of the album.

In 1977 the Beach Boys were hot again. The Brian's Back campaign yielded both a top ten album and top ten single. A lot of pr was done, they sold out stadiums around the world and the band was also getting it's own TV special. Dennis Wilson was about to release his first solo album - the first by any Beach Boy - in the same year.
It seems that Caribou put quite a bit of pr into Dennis' album as well. Magazine articles, radio interviews, record store events, a promo video, even a solo tour was planned. Yet the album barely made the top 100 when released which to me seems a little low.

The other day I saw a Facebook post about Pacific Ocean Blue, mentioning it's day of release - August 22nd 1977. That got me thinking....









A couple of pictures from appearances by Dennis in record stores to promote POB




Just a week earlier the Ohio State University Radio Observatory recorded a signal that when being analyzed by Jerry R. Ehman became known as the "WOW! Signal"; as to that point the strongest contender to be a message sent by alien life.




Although important science news that under normal circumstances would make for long discussions and reportings by both, scientists and laymen, this event was completely overshadowed by August 16th 1977. That day, as is well known, Elvis Presley died.







On the spot this became a media event like no other. What followed were a giant sales increase of Elvis records. Record stores were out of stock and RCA had problems keeping up with orders and had to use pressing plants all over the country. This wasn't just going on for a couple of days but actually quite a while.

The question that comes to mind: Did Pacific Ocean Blue suffer the same destiny as the WOW! signal? Was the chart placement of Pacific Ocean Blue a result of Elvis' passing? As we've seen it certainly took the focus away from everything else.



Epilogue

Mike Eder once told me that when the Beach Boys had a chance to visit Graceland, Dennis broke down crying at the grave of Elvis. Certainly this could be seen as Dennis lamenting the death of his generation's symbol of freedom. After thinking about the events of August 1977, though, one could also wonder if Dennis blamed (or let's say was reminded by) Elvis' death of himself not making a big splash as a solo artist.



What do you think? Am I crazy or do you think there could be something to it? Do you think it's placement on the charts and the numbers it sold wouldn't have been that much different had Elvis not died?








85  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: The Official BB You Tube Thread on: August 27, 2023, 02:25:43 AM
Dennis Wilson - News Clips of Beach Boys drummer Dennis Wilson's passing on December 28, 1983


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvZVKUW0FJ8
86  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Elvis Presley on: August 20, 2023, 02:28:01 AM
Reissues upgrade memorable Elvis Presley concerts well enough for aficionados
'Elvis As Recorded At Madison Square Garden' and 'Aloha From Hawaii By Satellite' have been reissued as CD sets, and probably to the delight to Elvis collectors looking for a decent product upgrade.

https://www.goldminemag.com/reviews/reissues-upgrade-memorable-elvis-presley-concerts-well-enough-for-aficionados
87  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The board on: August 18, 2023, 11:47:27 AM


Legendary!
The guy had a great taste in music as well (imo). He was even friends with Billy Joe Shaver, I believe.
88  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: R. I. P. Little Richard on: August 11, 2023, 10:53:47 AM
CNN Sets Premiere Date For ‘Little Richard: I Am Everything’ – Update

https://deadline.com/2023/08/sundance-little-richard-i-am-everything-magnolia-pictures-1235228920/?
89  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: RIP Robbie Robertson, Leader of The Band, Dies at 80 on: August 10, 2023, 11:26:47 AM
Great musician! R. I. P.
90  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 1973 is now up on my site...if you like on: August 09, 2023, 08:08:59 AM
Great work as always!

I enjoy reading how much Blondie was praised in reviews. This makes me sure had he stayed in the band he would certainly be seen as much as a "real" Beach Boy as Bruce. His contribution was just so strong
91  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: I'm Waiting For The Day- New video! on: August 08, 2023, 02:18:38 PM
Thanks for sharing. Loved it!

Ever after hearing Mike singing this song on the Pet Sounds Sessions I think he should've been the one to do it. Nothing against Brian but I just think Mike gives the song the needed edge.
92  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Elvis Presley on: August 04, 2023, 01:31:30 PM
Here's another trailer:


Reinventing Elvis: The '68 Comeback (2023) Official Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JkyClDJQkE
93  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Elvis Presley on: August 02, 2023, 09:39:09 AM
'Reinventing ELVIS:
The '68 Comeback'
The 2023 John Scheinfeld / Steve Binder Documentary
Feature Review by Nigel Patterson
Plus additional reviews by Emiel Maier, Geoffrey McDonnell and Don Hudson



https://www.elvisinfonet.com/Spotlight-Reinventing-Elvis-The-68-Comeback-documentary-Review.html



94  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Elvis Presley on: August 01, 2023, 03:06:13 AM
Over at FECC the reviews of the Comeback documentary are all very positive.


Also:

Director reflects on documentary 'Finding Elvis: The '68 Comeback'

John Scheinfeld has earned both Emmy and Grammy nominations for his TV documentaries about music and his new one out this summer tells the story of "Reinventing Elvis," how a single TV show revived his career back in 1968.


https://abc7ny.com/reinventing-elvis-the-68-comeback-john-scheinfeld-documentary/13577593/





Reinventing Elvis: The '68 Comeback Review: An Eye-Opening Look at the Legend’s Major Comeback Attempt

In director John Scheinfeld documentary about Elvis Presley, the filmmaker offers a passionate look at the comeback that almost didn't happen.


https://movieweb.com/reinventing-elvis-the-68-comeback-review/



95  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Pet Sounds new Dolby Atmos mix … on: July 27, 2023, 09:12:05 AM
Just saw this post by Brian's Facebook account:


Following the recent Pet Sounds Dolby Atmos release, five iconic Beach Boys albums have just been released in Dolby Atmos. Listen to All Summer Long, Surfin’ USA, Surfer Girl, Little Deuce Coupe and Shut Down, Vol. 2 as you’ve never heard them before. Available on Apple Music, Amazon Music Unlimited, and Tidal. Let us know what you think!
96  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Elvis Presley on: July 27, 2023, 08:56:33 AM
I'd be interested to know her thoughts. To tell you the truth I'm not sure what to expect. It seems like every couple of years a book or special about the Comeback gets released, many times with input by Steve Binder. What can be said that hasn't been already said hundreds of times?
I'm also skeptical of the trailer, since it doesn't even use Elvis' voice. Only now I realize that this is the actual trailer and not some fan made video.

https://www.reinventingelvis.com/videos/


 
BTW do you remember the mentioned "One Night with You" edit of the sit-down-shows? That was really good. I would like a re-release of that. Maybe in a streaming form or whatever would be suitable nowadays. I still have a recording of when it was shown on german TV and absolutely enjoy watching it.





I really think he was a guy that lived in a very small hermetically sealed environment and that is boring-so leads to drugs. Same story of Michael Jackson and even Prince. Instead of traveling and having fun-he was just in a hotel or in Graceland with his small group-not being challenged. Even the guys knew what was up-they talked in the Guralnick book about how exciting it was to go see Jackie Wilson at a club in the 60s because Elvis  did such things so rarely.  Instead of having those experiences he isolated himself


I think you're absolutely right although I don't know if this situation led to the drugs or other circumstances (remember that it was pretty common in the 50s for musicians on the road to take amphetamines). But the man certainly lived in his own reality and judging by some of his bevahior his psyche seems to have taken damage by that.


97  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Steven Gaines' Heroes and Villains can be downloaded on Amazon Kindle, but... on: July 24, 2023, 12:50:50 AM
I thought Heroes and Villains was, all in all, a great read. I know many fans enjoy getting lost in the minutae of who played what on what song where. And I'm very grateful to those who have documented those details as well as they can be to this point. But my favorite books contain a story, not just hard, cold facts and figures. The Beach Boys have an interesting and compelling story, and Gaines tells it well. Yes, he cites some unnamed sources, which is bothersome, and I wish he had interviewed Carl. One thing that really stands out, however, is that it contains by far the most harrowing and detailed account of Dennis's final days that I've seen in the several Beach Boys books I have read. That alone makes Heroes and Villains worth reading.


Way back during the old messageboard days, Ed Roach told me once that he was astonished how accurately H&V described Dennis' last days and that Gaines obviously had access to things that Ed thought only he himself knew.
And I agree with you. All the gushing about the great music these men did aside, there must also be room for books that talk about the tragedies and scandals (of which this band had enough).
98  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: So uh, was there a copyright dump? on: July 19, 2023, 12:56:07 PM


Don't think this was a copyright dump. This concert was broadcast on radion and has been released a couple of times as a grey-area release (not official but alsonot a bootleg). Cool show btw, around the time of Knebworth though Dennis is not present.
99  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: French Beach Boys documentary (arte 2023) on: July 19, 2023, 09:46:14 AM
You can (still) find the documentary on YouTube: https://youtu.be/y0y_1oC0sfE

At least for now…


Thanks. It's working for me.

What song is played starting at 45:49 mins.? I don't recognize that one....  Huh


It's nice that they used some of the footage that turned up during the last twenty years (Beach Boys in France, Ida Blackburn).
I hope - and this is just something I want to say generally as I haven't watched this particular documentary in full yet - that a new "official" documentary about the Beach Boys will not only put Pet Sounds and Smile front and center but also talk about the great music they have done on other albums be it pre or post PS/Smile. Personally I'm getting tired of them being reduced to those two projects.

The lyric sheet for "Cabin Essence" comes up at 38:48 mins.
100  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: French Beach Boys documentary (arte 2023) on: July 18, 2023, 09:29:45 AM
Where did you watch it? It says that it will be available on Aug. 11th when I click on the link. Arte usually shows good documentaries.

The documentary was supposed to be broadcast on Friday evening and was therefore already available as a stream. Arte seems to have changed its programme for Friday evening due to the death of Jane Birkin. Therefore, the stream is also only online from August.



That certainly makes sense.
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