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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson & Joe Thomas
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on: October 11, 2017, 07:03:20 AM
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"Worth noting is going back (again) to the classic era of the Beach Boys and Brian's productions, when have Brian's productions been simpler, less adorned, dry sounding, etc?"
Smiley Smile, Wild Honey, some of the Smile stuff (Wind Chimes verse remake, Child remake, some of the Vegetables April sessions, etc.). Maybe not what you're referring to as the "classic" era though.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / A definitive list of songs Mike Love won co-writing credit for?
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on: October 02, 2017, 06:40:31 AM
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This is not a definitive list - Please feel free to add or subtract or otherwise correct. It's based on Andrew's list but I noticed there are some songs not on his list which I have added.
Chug a Lug 409* Farmer's Daughter Shut Down Noble Surfer Finders Keepers Hawaii* Catch a Wave Be True to Your School* I Get Around* Custom Machine Keep an Eye on Summer All Summer Long* Wendy Do You Remember? Drive In Don't Back Down* Little Saint Nick* Santa's Beard The Man with All the Toys* Good to my Baby Don't Hurt My Little Sister When I Grow Up* Help Me Rhonda* Dance Dance Dance* Kiss Me Baby She Knows Me Too Well In the Back of My Mind The Girl from New York City Amusement Parks USA Salt Lake City California Girls* Let Him Run Wild You're So Good to Me Wouldn't It Be Nice I Know There's an Answer
* = songs mentioned by Mike Love in pre-lawsuit interview as song he co-wrote but received no credit for
Another song mentioned by Mike Love as a song he didn't receive for credit for was Please Let Me Wonder ("I wrote the verses, not relating to the title") but the song on the 1990 CD and the Pastmasters CD IS credited Wilson-Love! A mistake on Mike's part? I dont' have my original vinyl handy to check on the credits there.
Songs mentioned by Mike as co-writes that he did NOT receive credit for:
Merry Christmas Baby - at least not on the 1998 Christmas CD South Bay Surfer - credited to Brian, Carl and Dennis
Songs Mike claimed and won credit for that had minimal contributions from Mike:
409 - he came up with "she's real fins my 409" and "giddy up giddy up 409" I Get Around - he came up with "round round get around, I Get Around" Help Me Rhonda - Mike came up with the first line, "Since she put me down I've been out doin' in my head" Wouldn't It Be Nice - the infamous "good night baby, sleep tight baby" the sum total of Mike's contribution
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Heroes and Villains: 1967 Japanese Single Liner-Notes...
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on: September 28, 2017, 06:37:28 AM
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Smiley Smile was released Sep 18 in the USA, so presumably these liner notes were written before then - if the Apan Heroes single was released early to mid September then the liner notes were probably written several weeks before, so likely in August. Still by then Smiley Smile should have been on the Capitol release schedule and you would think the author of the notes would have realized the album was not going to be called Smile. But then no one (at least critics/writers not in the Beach Boys circle) realized that Smiley Smile was going to be a different animal than the previously announced Smile until it was released.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Pet Sounds complete recording sessions
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on: September 26, 2017, 08:42:51 AM
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You need Sea of Tunes Unsurpassed Masters Vol 12 (for Sloop sessions), 13-14 (PS sessions) and 15 for the GV sessions that were recorded during Pet Sounds, if you want to go that far. I'll exclude GV from any further listings because all of the early sessions are on UM Vol 15 plus some early mixes on the Smiley/WH 2fer.
Official releases: Pet Sounds Sessions box, Good Vibrations Thirty Years box set (for the alternate Hang on to Your Ego), Made in the USA for the alternate mix of Wouldn't It Be Nice (can't remember if this is on the PS Sessions box or not), Pet Sounds 50th for alternate mix of I Know There's an Answer and I Know There's an Answer vocal session (the later I'm sure is on the UM Pet Sounds session somewhere).
Odds and Ends: Goodbye Surfing Hello God has "Banana and Louie Beagle Recording Session" and supposedly three alternate mono mixes of Pet Sounds tracks.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Let's compile a 12 track \
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on: September 20, 2017, 08:57:19 AM
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(Since we're only talking songs, I'm leaving off Denny's Drums)
Ten Little Indians I'm Going Bald Vegetables Wind Chimes (SS Version) Take a Load Off Your Feet Mt. Vernon Let Us Go On This Way I Wanna Pick You Up Here Comes the Night '79 Surfin 92 Summer of Love Under the Boardwalk
I'm Going Bald - is that the Mike solo version of The Beach Boys' SHE'S going Bald?
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \
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on: September 18, 2017, 06:12:04 PM
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I would hardly call this an over-busy production -- I didn't hear anything other than guitars, bass and drums.
And to think I'd see a day when a BW track was criticized for having harmonies ...
Not for having harmonies - for having overly typical and overused BW harmonies, and the busy-ness of the production is definitely the multiple vocal overdubs. Let the song breathe - its a good tune, don't obscure it! Just my opinion of course, it appears I'm in the minority on this.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \
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on: September 18, 2017, 04:59:19 PM
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Pleasant enough, but suffers from the overbusy production and the overdone by the numbers BW harmonies. Sometimes less is more. The guitar break was the best part.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Good photos of Dennis
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on: September 15, 2017, 06:18:39 AM
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On stage he wasn't usually in a very good position to be photographed (in the back) in the early days when he looked his best. In formal group shots I thought he almost always looked good. Crop some photos of him out of group shots if you're looking for good Dennie pics.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The first Pet Sounds Tour, 2002 - a precedent?
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on: September 14, 2017, 07:16:07 AM
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I was there too. August 16, 2002 at the Avalon Ballroom in Boston. It was the first time I saw him solo (seen him a dozen times since). I agree completely with Googa about Brian's enthusiasm and his voice back then. The First Pet Sounds Tour and the Smile Tour were the most memorable and amazing shows I saw him do. And it does seem that since those Pet Sounds and Smile tours some other artists have picked up on the "classic album" tours. I just saw The Damned perform two of their classic albums I was at the same show. I loved the Van Dyke Parks orchestral Pet Sounds suite as well - I wish a recording of that was released officially. Kind of a prelude to the Smile suite transitions.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New Article: \
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on: September 05, 2017, 07:56:10 AM
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What I don't want to hear on the new album:
By the numbers Brian production (bass harmonica, sleighbells, accordions, Pet Sounds style production) remakes of Spector and Berry songs. BMB, Lovin Feelin, River Deep, Walkin in the Rain, Da Do Ron Ron versions that will pale in comparison to the originals and add nothing to Brian and Phils musical legacy.
What I would like to hear:
Less well known Spector songs: Hung on You, Paradise, Is That What I Get for Loving You, Girls Can Tell, Run Run Run Runaway. Different arrangements with some quirkiness and more "stripped down" arrangements. Wild Honey style versions of Spector songs would be interesting. I'd like to finally get a definitive version of a Brian Proud Mary.
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