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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Bruce Johnston - Ritchie Valens on: August 09, 2015, 01:07:46 AM
I believe that the drummer on the "Come On Let's Go" studio track (and probably on all of Ritchie Valens studio tracks as well) was Earl Palmer.
2  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: An official Phil Spector biopic? on: March 03, 2010, 12:45:36 AM
"Official"  would mean Phil signs off, approving of the content - and of the payment to him.  Such a meeting of the minds between Phil and any potential filmmaker would seem unlikely.   So unlikely while Phil is alive, at least while he is in control of his affairs.  Will there an unofficial film? Yes there likely will be if somebody can figure out how to do it without getting sued.
3  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Famous female composers on: March 03, 2010, 12:37:21 AM
Joni Mitchell

Some excellent songwriters not yet mentioned, I think, are:
Mary Lou Williams
Alice Coltrane
Patti Smith
Chrissie Hynde
Victoria Williams
Lucinda Williams

4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: T.A.M.I. Show on: February 03, 2010, 11:24:50 AM
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In the AIP vault were the original 35mm negative, and 35mm positive print. The original 3 track Audio mag was missing, so the audio cannot be remixed.
The audio source that they did use is not also 3 track?  fold down mono?

I wonder if they still have the original audio for the Big TNT show, and if it is 3 track or something other?  
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Hawthorne CD cover photo on: February 02, 2010, 11:08:05 PM
Sorry about the post title.  I corrected it.

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If it is, the thing that struck me about it the first time I saw that CD is how everybody's heads are at the same point across a straight line. Even Al Jardine, supposedly a good ten feet or so further from the camera than Mike Love, has his head at the same height. Which, on that scale, would make him about 9ft tall!
 Not necessarily, it would depend on a number of factors such as, how far back the camera was, the lens used, and the angle that the photograph was taken at.  It does not appear to be a perfectly level shot.   I am looking right now at some of Elliot Landy's photos of the Band in Woodstock, NY and sometimes people way back in these photos  actually appear much taller (let alone appearing to be the same height).    
OK though, I hadn't really thought about it being photo shopped.  That's too bad I guess, but it's still pretty cool.  That still leaves me with at least as many questions about it.   Is the scene from an earlier photo that is actually the front yard of the Wilson's house?  I wonder what were the source photos of the BB's?  If Dennis wasn't actually pushing a lawnmower  then what was he doing? (with his clothing fully on)

 
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Hawthorne CD cover photo on: February 02, 2010, 11:27:19 AM
I love this classic photo.  Does anyone know the date, photographer, and specific circumstances of this photo?  Are there (surviving) additional photos from the shoot?  That's Brian's car in the driveway?  Alan's hot rod on the street?  Murry's actual lawnmower?  Mike's first unusual hat? (this one looks pretty sharp!)  Is the hotrod on 119th (or is the photo looking East at Kornblum Ave.)?    
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Jack Reiley on: January 26, 2010, 11:22:39 PM
I like Jack because I like what happened on his watch.  There was a successful evolution to more mature themes,  there were great records, there was improved audience popularity, and there was a great live band.  I should add that I love "A Day in the Life of A Tree"!    
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: T.A.M.I. Show on: January 26, 2010, 11:05:03 PM
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Dennis never really got the credit he deserved for this. Does anyone regaling the BB's history really ever admit that Dennis was more known and certainly more popular among the Beach Boys large 1964/65 fan base than Brian or any of the others? Most people tend to downplay, or completely ignore this fact...probably because it had to do with charisma, and physical energy, and looks. Its not exactly palatable to say a group who made the best records and had rock's greatest genius, were partially popular because the drummer was hot. But its true.

Credit for being "hot"?
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: How Hi-Fi are Pet Sounds, Smiley Smile, and Wild Honey? on: January 23, 2010, 01:27:34 AM
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"She's The One" is a mono mix. Slathered with lashing of reverb, but mono nonetheless.
  So  is "Backstreets" Odd that some of the album is stereo and some mono in all the masterings released so far.  "Born To Run" (the song) is an entirely different production and (stereo) mix from the rest of the l.p.  I thought they did a nice job on the recording and mix of Ernest Carter's drums on that song.   
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: T.A.M.I. Show on: January 16, 2010, 01:02:51 AM
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Both her and her friend somehow wound up meeting the band The Barbarians right around this time (she doesn't recall how exactly, or if it had anything to do with T.A.M.I), but they wound up hanging with them at  some pre-or post show stuff, and she has a few B&W snapshots of The Barbarians in front of, and inside their motel (presumably in Santa Monica?).
  The Barbarians were one of the great 60's garage bands.  I love the song "Moulty" though my understanding is that Moulty Moulton was the only Barbarian actually performing on the song. Levon and the Hawks (later to be the Band) played on the track.  "Are You a Boy or Are You a Girl?" was great also.  It was some other song that they did on the TAMI show though wasn't it?     
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: T.A.M.I. Show on: January 14, 2010, 12:45:58 AM
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Ike and Tina used a lot of their own band. I don't know the names of everyone who was in it (Jimmy Thomas may be who you are thinking of) but it should the same one as on their Ike and Tina Live Warner Brothers LP
 You are right and the band changed members a lot.  I was surprised to learn that McCoy Tyner actually toured with I&T for a while during a lean period for him when jazz was just not selling.
 If you would know the band members by sight, please take a look at the video and let me know.  
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: T.A.M.I. Show on: January 14, 2010, 12:16:05 AM
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The excellent house band for TNT does sound, btw, at least in part like the Crew...
 That would be because it was "members" of the Crew wouldn't it?  I have to admit that I don't specifically remember which individuals.  It seems to me that Spector as musical director would have hired the musicians he usually worked with, esp. considering the show was in L.A. and they were the best choices in the world for this particular assignment.   One additional musician (whom I wondered about his identity) was the guitarist playing with Ike.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aWeluxVHhM
I feel that this is the definitive Ike and Tina Turner performance existing from their prime.  
For that reason alone the Big TNT Show should get out.  But it is also contains the definitive  performance from Bo Diddley's prime.  The Ray Charles is prime Ray Charles, The Spoonful performance is likewise.  A rare, maybe the only?, video of Spector in performance,  likewise rare live Ronettes footage, and more.
  
I would love to hear from anyone who can correctly identify the guitarist with I&T and the members the Big T.N.T. House band. (Spector on piano, with Baez,  of course for starters).
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: T.A.M.I. Show on: January 13, 2010, 12:32:39 AM
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Ron says the 35mm Negative looks Stunning, without any "Kinescope" type look.  Also, the Big TNT Show was shot the exact same way, so there is a possibility of that being released the same way. Perhaps if this release sells well, they will issue TNT
I hope so.  I loved most of the performances in that show. BTW if you look carefully you will see Frank Zappa (highly recognizeable) and also Ron & Russell Mael (less so) in the audience.    The "Moulin Rouge" club was (and the building still stands) on the south side of Sunset near the Hollywood Palladium not far from Ameoba Records.  It was called both the  Aquarius and the Hullabaloo Clubs in the late 60's.  It  is currently used as a stage  for Televison productions.  It could conceivably even become a club again someday.  

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The "sister" Big T.N.T show (linked and clipped on a terrible combo video, laconically and ridiculously hosted by Chuck Berry) was done the same way.
   Wiki is mistaken. Chuck Berry does not appear in the "Big T.N.T. Show.  If he had he might have been laconic, which would be great, but I highly doubt that it would be ridiculous. The actual host was David MacCallum.  How someone got those two wiki-mixed up is beyond me.
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: T.A.M.I. Show on: January 13, 2010, 12:18:49 AM
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That's what it stood for when the film was released, and the key word in my initial post was, "was." The whole thing dissolved, but the T.A.M.I. Show was the first of what they hoped would be many events, but that didn't happen.
Interesting.  So that's probably why TAMI-2 got the new acronymn: Big T.N.T.

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It was shot through Video Cameras, and the image was then sent directly to 35mm negative. There was NO 2 inch video tape involved.
In the AIP vault were the original 35mm negative, and 35mm positive print. The original 3 track Audio mag was missing, so the audio cannot be remixed.
 That's interesting and of course explains why original video tape does not exist.  Was this a common process and what was the purpose of using it  on this (relatively low budget) production?  
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: T.A.M.I. Show on: January 12, 2010, 11:49:58 PM
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BTW, T.A.M.I. stands for Teen Age Music International
They should have renamed it for this 45 year+ anniversary release  since the music is, magically, no longer teenage music.   Also, not so magically, those of us who were there are no longer teenagers.

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Renaming it would be like colorizing it, and re-dubbing the bass and drum parts with new musicians. It was, is, and always will be the T.A.M.I. Show..
I was not serious about literally renaming it.  I do find it noteworthy that most of the same exact music that was teenage music 45 years ago, is in now largely, in perception, adult music.    

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and re-dubbing the bass and drum parts with new musicians.
That would not be unusual. The BB's tinkered with at least a couple of their concert albums, a practice many (probably most) other groups have followed.
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: T.A.M.I. Show on: January 12, 2010, 01:15:25 AM
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BTW, T.A.M.I. stands for Teen Age Music International
Which, of course, stands for nothing.

They should have renamed it for this 45 year+ anniversary release  since the music is, magically, no longer teenage music.   Also, not so magically, those of us who were there are no longer teenagers.   

I wish they would do the same for the Big TNT show which I love.  It was also produced by Henry Saperstein who is likely responsible for the titles.  Both shows were recorded on video tape which was then transfered to film.  It will be interesting to find out what the source for this edition of the TAMI show was.       
17  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: far out musicians who have never used drugs on: November 28, 2009, 12:06:11 PM
Clifford died in an automobile accident.  He was a passenger in a car where the driver lost control and plunged off an embankment.   
18  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: far out musicians who have never used drugs on: November 28, 2009, 01:09:28 AM
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I think Zappa did not use street drugs, but he chainsmoked, as far as I know. And nicotin is one of the most addictive substances known to mankind (although the tar and small amounts of carcinogens and heavy metals (no pun) do the damage.
I was aquainted with Frank for a while and I would say that he was not a "chainsmoker",  but that he was a fairly heavy smoker as well as a heavy espresso drinker.  He did not have nuerotic smoking habits that I ever saw - like multiple cigarettes going nor was he lost without a cigarette.  He was more of  a deliberate smoker.  It is still too bad though that he avoided all the drugs except the worst one.

other no drug artists for sure:
Bruce Springsteen - also no smoke
John Mayall - (also no smoke? I think)    
Clifford Brown - significant in that he was clean and arguably the best best jazz trumpet player in the 1950's in a scene that was rampant with heroin addiction. 

19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thanks Rolling Stone on: November 25, 2009, 02:28:11 AM
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I don't think there's any conspiracy here - Capitol even sprung for videos for the 1989 singles. "Kokomo" was on Elektra purely because the soundtrack album was - the Capitol album deal came in the wake of "Kokomo"'s success. I don't see a major company signing someone just to bury them. Why ? Not impossible... but hugely unlikely.
excellent responses AGD!

Record execs are not adverse to that type of bad behavior - They send a limo out for it!

It is far more likely that the Love RRHOF incident helped put the backing in place that made it possible for Kokomo to become a hit - than the opposite.    
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Breathing New Life into the S.M. Civic Auditorium on: September 27, 2009, 01:25:48 AM
I wish I had gotten to the TAMI awards and Dylan's 1979 shows here.  I did see the Kinks, a couple of Springsteen shows, Poco,  and Eric Clapton at the Civic at various times in the 1970s.  I never felt the acoustics were great or that it was all that intimate for a place that holds maybe 3,000 - but still, it has some charm, a relatively great location, and personally I have a soft spot for the "dump" in my heart .  I think it might be really good for GA (standing only) shows.  Hopefully they will, wisely, put some of the renovation money into the accoustics over fluff.

The fact that the iconic TAMI show was there and that the Civic was designed by Welton Becket, who designed the Capitol Records building, is good enough for me on BB content.    
21  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Former Stones Guitarist Brian Jones' Death Being Re-Examined on: September 26, 2009, 10:56:50 AM
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Maybe this will clear up his name

Clear his name of what?
22  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Legendary Golden Bear to roar again on: September 26, 2009, 01:53:44 AM
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This weekend, benefit shows will celebrate the long-defunct Huntington Beach music club, which once hosted Bob Dylan and the Byrds, among others.
The Golden Bear management promoted a Bob Dylan concert at Long Beach Wilson High School in 1964 and I believe that is likely what the article is referencing.  I don't think that Dylan performed at the club proper.   Paul Butterfield was a frequent and popular headliner there as was (1970-ish) Linda Ronstadt.
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Rockaway Records on: September 26, 2009, 01:30:39 AM
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I think the first time I was ever in Rockaway, when they were across the street in the little shop that later became a porn rental place
  Before that they were a quarter mile or so down Glendale Blvd. near Fletcher Dr.  in a shopping center anchored by a Mayfair grocery market.  I think that was their original store - the former Rainbow Records store. 

Thanks Ed for another L.A. post of interest!  I'm going to try to make it up on Sunday to check out their sale.   
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Lima, Ohio on: June 25, 2009, 12:02:22 AM
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Lol pretty much the only thing I have to brag about this city is the fact that Al is from here

So was the late and great hall of fame jazz musician Joe Henderson.  He was one of the very best tenor sax players in history.  He had an amazing ability to make simple music - sound complex, and to make complex music - sound simple.  He was a BlueNote superstar.   

I'm curious to know what enlightened areas the critics above call home?
25  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Bruce Springsteen on: June 24, 2009, 01:36:11 AM
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Any of you had similar experiences (with Brooooce or with others)?

He is the best live performer I ever saw and I've seen a lot of the great live acts.  Some others were good for a night or good for a while but not for anything like this period of time.   He doesn't get much love here though for some reason but that's ok.  He still has plenty of places to play where he fills an arena and one of those places is where I live (S. Calif.).  I don't like the way Brendan O'Brian (and I suppose Bruce) are mixing these recent albums.  Nothing personal you understand, Brendan is a made guy, but the vocals are too buried down into or under the track for me, - but I didn't have a vote.  I did hear a better non-lp mixed version of "Girls In Their Summer Clothes" and it was great.  "Girls" is a Brian Wilson Pet Sounds influenced track - so says Bruce as a matter of fact. So is "Queen of the Supermarket" (lyrically) off the current lp.  I would have thought that only Brian Wilson could have written this.  A "Love You - 2009" track.  Who would have thought this would come from Bruce?  Maybe i'm the only person who wish's Bruce would get Brian to produce (and mix) him.               
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