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51  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Love and Mercy - News and Reviews - First clip is out. on: June 03, 2015, 04:24:14 PM
Not a review, but a promotional thing: John Cusack is on today's Nerdist podcast talking about, among other things, Love & Mercy. I am just beginning to listen so I can't comment on it, but if you're interested, go to iTunes or wherever and have a listen.

(Sorry if this was posted elsewhere, but I didn't see an obvious place.)
52  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: The What Are You Reading? Thread on: May 26, 2015, 03:07:21 PM
"The Fourth Revolution: The Global Race to Reinvent the State," by John Micklethwait and Adrian Wooldridge (both of The Economist).
53  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Dzhokhar Tsarnaev‬ sentenced to death for Boston Marathon bombing on: May 26, 2015, 03:06:16 PM
All the unjustified killings in the world don't change the belief that state-approved killings are also wrong, fair trial or not.

Fair trial!!?! Since when!?!  LOL LOL LOL  Besides... who needs a fair trial anyway?!  "Fair trial"... that's a good one!!

Does your morality/reasoning also apply to a baby in the womb?  The State approves killing these babies -- for any reason (Mom's tired, Dad's a d-ck, too poor, too uneducated, too black -- too drunk).  Trial, schmial.  Kill it!

Too many poor in the ghetto??? -- F-CK IT!!! -- build a "Planned Parenthood" clinic!!  That's about as evil as it gets -- no matter which planet you're from.  People are so chickensh-t about having a firm morality/reasoning on this -- for reasons I will never understand.  This is the easy stuff in my book.

So any concern of Dzhohskxara's sentence, trial or whatever -- is hilarious to me.  Drop a safe on him -- who the f-ck cares!!!!???!!!  Unless you're a super-Christian (you're not, are you?) concern here is either a lie or some new form of ill-humanity that I've yet to categorize.

Also... state-approved killings are not "wrong" (see: War).  Let's not get all thinky.  Killing bad-guys is a necessary and unfortunate aspect of keeping society safe.  And enemy combatants who kill are signing up for it.  And they know that.  Any different a response gives them pause.  And the ones of the "one-off radical" variety -- like the turkey we have here -- should be sent through on a conveyor belt.  On slow.

Me personally? -- I'm opposed to the death penalty.  But... then again... azzhat-terrorists and serial killers like this sh-tface make me think differently.  Cuz I'm NORMAL.

 Wall

No, I'm an atheist. (Not a super-Christian. Which I would consider becoming if it meant I got a cape, maybe.)

As for the rest, I'm reminded that some time ago, I had decided discussions with you about anything resembling politics weren't useful: you treat discussion as browbeating lecture where everything is either right (your team) or some combination of evil and ignorant (everyone else), so it's really neither productive nor fun. So I'm not responding to the rest of your post. If you want to have a civil and respectful conversation, I'm in. Though I'll warn you, it might "get all thinky." Reply if you'd like, but I'm done with the thread, so I won't be reading it.
54  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / Smiley Smilers Who Make Music / Re: New Song: Be Okay on: May 25, 2015, 07:18:36 AM
Thanks, EoL: I can certainly see where the comparison comes from.
55  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / Smiley Smilers Who Make Music / Re: New Song: Be Okay on: May 25, 2015, 06:50:30 AM
Some life has breathed into this old tune, "Be Okay," previously shared as a scratch/demo (which is also still on the soundcloud page if you're into comparing, which is weird but whatever). Drums courtesy Zach. Pretty much everything is new except some vocals.

https://soundcloud.com/the-beau-mondes


This may be a superficial comparison (because I don't have the knowledge to properly analyze a song), but some parts remind me of The Yellow Balloon, who have some great songs.  Thank you for sharing the final (or more final) version.

Thanks, EoL. Any similarity to the Yellow Balloon would be accidental, in that I'm not aware of ever having heard them.
56  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / Smiley Smilers Who Make Music / Re: New Song: Be Okay on: May 24, 2015, 09:08:30 AM
Some life has breathed into this old tune, "Be Okay," previously shared as a scratch/demo (which is also still on the soundcloud page if you're into comparing, which is weird but whatever). Drums courtesy Zach. Pretty much everything is new except some vocals.

https://soundcloud.com/the-beau-mondes
57  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Dzhokhar Tsarnaev‬ sentenced to death for Boston Marathon bombing on: May 16, 2015, 04:40:45 PM
I think it's obvious to everyone that everyone can agree that victims of violence everywhere would prefer fair trials over vigilante or ideological or insanity-inspired killing, but that's irrelevant. All the unjustified killings in the world don't change the belief that state-approved killings are also wrong, fair trial or not.
58  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Dzhokhar Tsarnaev‬ sentenced to death for Boston Marathon bombing on: May 16, 2015, 09:10:12 AM
I can never agree with the death penalty under any circumstances whatsoever. That's all I have to say about this.
I wish the killers themselves thought about it as you do.

This, I agree with.
59  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Dzhokhar Tsarnaev‬ sentenced to death for Boston Marathon bombing on: May 15, 2015, 06:43:23 PM
Thanks for describing the crime. I am aware of its severity. It got some press.
60  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Dzhokhar Tsarnaev‬ sentenced to death for Boston Marathon bombing on: May 15, 2015, 05:39:59 PM
I'm well aware of the distinctions between federal and state cases. My point was that in a state generally opposed to the death penalty, it surprised me that the jurors would be unanimously in favor of the death penalty. The Globe article was pasted because, frankly, it was one of the first recent ones I found. But let's be serious: it isn't as if the converse numbers are true. Massachusetts isn't Texas. I'm guessing that any news source you consider liberal won't satisfy you, but this NYT story quotes the Boston NPR affiliate as saying in its poll that 27% were pro-death penalty in this particular case.

Point being: it's a state where most people, at least in theory, don't support the death penalty.

Which liberal lawyers who oppose the death penalty were in favor in this instance? Frankly I think that's pathetic: it's intellectually dishonest for people to change their positions just because it's in their city, it's terrorism versus "regular crime," or whether the defendant looked acceptably sorry during his trial. Anyone who opposes it in theory but somehow apparently never considered the fact that some criminal might have "killed four and maimed hundreds" is an idiot.

Anyway, I don't mean to get into a political of philosophical discussion here because to be totally honest, I've seen too many of those in the Sandbox and I know where they lead (which is nowhere: everyone rallies her own troops or beats his own chest and usually belittles, generalizes about, and totally builds a straw man of the opponent). I really was just posting to make that one point, that it was a slight surprise for a case where the jurors' decision seemed to be disproportionate from that population's views.
61  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Dzhokhar Tsarnaev‬ sentenced to death for Boston Marathon bombing on: May 15, 2015, 02:38:22 PM
I'm a little bit surprised, given the state's disapproval of the death penalty in general and specifically in this case, according to polls. (The Boston Globe reported here -- http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2015/04/26/globe-poll-shows-diminishing-support-for-death-penalty-for-tsarnaev/S3GMhFlGj5VUkZrmLzh1iN/story.html -- that only a third support the death penalty in general and only a fifth supported it in this case.)

But as TRBB said, "never discount the democratic thirst for blood." (Nothing to be proud of in my opinion.)
62  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike the dominant creative force when it came to conceptual content? on: May 09, 2015, 12:41:58 PM
I don't care about the substance of this argument at all (as if any arguments here were of any substance). But that sentence has to mean that the dominance in the partnership that Mike states is only related to "lyrically and conceptually." Otherwise there is nothing to which those adverbs refer. It is not an ambiguous sentence. Incorrect, maybe. But he is not saying he was the dominant member of the partnership other than lyrically and conceptually.
63  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / Smiley Smilers Who Make Music / Re: New Recording: Keep it Simple on: May 07, 2015, 05:55:39 AM
Zach - yes, the Nord is featured! Electric piano through the first sections and synth bass and organ in the last section.
64  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / Smiley Smilers Who Make Music / Re: Afterlife on: May 03, 2015, 10:22:03 AM
I liked that, Billy. The more percussive sounding melody parts--like a xylophone-meets-electric piano?--were especially cool. I like longer, unpredictable melodies (as opposed to an obvious 4-beat phrase, etc).
65  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / Smiley Smilers Who Make Music / New Recording: Keep it Simple on: May 03, 2015, 07:16:26 AM
I posted a (largely) new recording of my 2012ish song "Keep it Simple." Zach was kind enough to contribute drums, which is the reason for the re-recording.

https://soundcloud.com/the-beau-mondes/keep-it-simple

I enjoy the song (if not the mix) and hope you do, too. Rather than belabor it, I decided to dive in for a half-day and just leave it at that, at least for now.
66  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Your Favorite Moments From No Pier Pressure on: April 28, 2015, 03:58:34 PM
I would say Iggy Azalea, but she calls herself a rapper, which requires zero singing talent. 

On a similar note, being a saxophonist requires zero trumpeting talent. So ... y'know ...

QUESTION:      I hear there are several different packages with different songs included.     which one should I try to find?
and again, thanks for the positivity!

donald, let me assure you that unless you are really turned off by slick production--and I'm not talking about THE DREADED EFFECT THAT DARE NOT SPEAK ITS NAME, just slick production, which this absolutely has--it is absolutely worth buying! (In that way it's the polar opposite of GIOMH, where the vocals at least were far, far, far from slickly produced. Or performed.)

I'd say the deluxe edition is the way to go unless you have some particular interest in the decade-old "Love & Mercy" and the '70s "In the Back of My Mind." I bought that Target version with those but honestly even though I like that L&M, I don't really need to listen to it much, and I doubt I'll ever intentionally listen to the latter again. (I don't much like the song at all.)

But as for the album proper, whether you go standard or deluxe, it's absolutely a worthwhile addition to the BW catalog. I think its reputation will improve over time, as is so often the case with BW's work. That it isn't what it used to be, or what someone else wanted it to be, has nothing to do with its own quality. It's a really good album.
67  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian's worst vocal arrangement on: April 27, 2015, 04:17:05 PM
The past two suggestions are, in my opinion, exactly what the OP was not going for. "You've Touched Me" is a pretty good arrangement, I think--it's just badly sung. (In fact, personally this is one of my personal BW do-overs if I ever get the genie's wishes. Not at all bad, kind of charming. just so, so badly sung.) And if "Our Team" is out of tune, that's also irrelevant to the arrangement.
68  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / Smiley Smilers Who Make Music / Re: You're My Best Friend (Queen Acoustic Cover) on: April 24, 2015, 04:38:29 PM
Fucking love it.

Reminds me of my younger days (aka, high school, some 20+ years ago now) with Queen almost always in my car stereo's cassette deck, trying my best to sing all the parts (at once). Aside from the bits where you multitracked your voice, which I couldn't really do in the car without buying a generator or something to supply power, then crashing and dying from lack of concentration on the road and whatnot.

But seriously, very nice. Queen songs are often fantastic stripped down, even as full of embellishments as they inevitably were on record. Great melodies, solid structures supporting the whole things.
69  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Twenty Ways of Thinking About No Pier Pressure on: April 18, 2015, 08:03:14 AM
Wirestone, with ever-fewer reasons to bother, writing like yours makes this place worthwhile.
70  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: 2015 New Releases on: April 18, 2015, 07:58:00 AM
Wrote about Earl Sweatshirt's new album:
http://s3.excoboard.com/therecordroom/29211/1325401

And about Courtney Barnett's new album:
http://s3.excoboard.com/therecordroom/29211/1325693
71  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: The What Are You Reading? Thread on: April 15, 2015, 03:23:35 PM
Some Bukowski stories. I don't much like Bukowski. Also a book about archaeological evidence as it relates to Judeo-Christian scriptures' accounts of history. Could some version of the exodus have happened (spoiler alert: no), and if so, when. That kind of stuff.
72  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: NPP charts at #16 in U.S. on: April 15, 2015, 03:19:11 PM
You're all welcome. (I had a long, very boring post. I've decided to summarize instead.)

I think it might make sense to hold off on the possible crossover hit singles--"Saturday Night" and "Guess You Had to Be There," I'd say, as Zooey hasn't really had chart success--as a way to extend the sales lifespan. If Week One is the natural peak, why not hold off a bit and try for a second (and third) wind as the natural Beach Boy season approaches? I think the Musgraves track in particular has a really good chance, as it's simple, memorable, in line with what her fans could expect to hear on their radio, and teams with a real, established (country, with some pop crossover already) star.
73  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: NPP charts at #16 in U.S. on: April 14, 2015, 04:14:14 PM
A bit more perspective, just for kicks.

If No Pier Pressure were a Beach Boys album, it would be their third-highest charting non-compilation album since Pet Sounds in 1966, behind only TWGMTR (#3) and 15 Big Ones (#8).

I misread that as "just for kids." It spent a while trying to figure out why that fact was especially for the kids until I realized I'm apparently not great with, you know, reading words.

Good news on the chart position.

Now, how many of those 16k purchases are by board members? I'm in for two so far and I'm sure some of you have that beat...  Grin
74  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Your Favorite Moments From No Pier Pressure on: April 13, 2015, 03:09:43 PM
The vocal harmonies from 3:05 to about 3:16, through that second "tell me why," in the outro to "Tell Me Why." Different than elsewhere, filled with great little passing tones and suspensions. A lot of work for a less-than-ten second bit of background at the tail end of an album track. Absolutely beautiful.
75  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: No Pier Pressure (board member reviews) on: April 13, 2015, 03:04:18 PM
I think Andrew Hickey is a decent writer and his review is interesting....

but stuff like saying Capital Cities is "a young persons’ skiffle group of some notoriety" strikes me as somebody trying to sound too cool for school. The kinda person that would hang out in the now vacant "Record Room" with former Smiley Smile board terrorist Ian Wagner. I mean, I didn't know who Capital Cities was either before this project, but the way he states it just reeks of musical elitism.

What's funny about this to me (as someone who, as luckyoldsmile noted, does actually write on the Record Room) was that I was thinking about posting something about how tiresome it is for me when I read someone say "[so-and-so], whoever he is," or "can't be that famous, I've never heard of him" ... and specifically how often I'd come across that sort of thing right here. Not at TRR. The attitude that I (the writer, not actually me), as the omniscient arbiter of all taste (wait, maybe this is me), couldn't possibly be lacking in knowledge of something important or good. Me? An uninformed dinosaur hanging on to the aggrandized false memories of my adolescence? Poppycock! This unfamiliar name must be bullshit.

That said, I thought the little "skiffle group" line actually added some much-needed humor to the preceding "someone named Sebu" (or whatever he said, exactly). So in my book, kudos to Mr. Hickey for putting himself in perspective.
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