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51  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Politics: 2016 Lame Duck and 2017 New Administration on: February 14, 2017, 05:18:10 AM
And Flynn is out.

"Unfortunately ... I inadvertently briefed the Vice President Elect and others with incomplete information regarding my phone calls with the Russian Ambassador."

That sounds much better than "I illegally discussed sanctions without being an authorized rep of the USA and lied when I got caught."

Dumped by consecutive administrations. Impressive. Speaking of criminals, NPR reported Petraeus is on the short list of possible replacements.
52  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: NBA 2017 Topic on: February 13, 2017, 04:26:57 PM
Honestly the Wolves should be far better than the Lakers this season. But LA got off to a good start and of course the Wolves did the opposite. And it doesn't help that LaVine is out for the year. But they're playing somewhat better, and the Lakers have leveled off.
53  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / Smiley Smilers Who Make Music / Re: New Recording: \ on: February 13, 2017, 06:46:03 AM
Thank you. I know what you mean about Darian's DYHAR, but wouldn't put myself into the Brianer-than-Brian category. Maybe just that I used straight plunking piano instead of the cheesy 80s synths or Was-done smooth track versions? Especially with my piano being in need of a tuning, it could almost be right out of '67! 😀

Thanks again.
54  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: NBA 2017 Topic on: February 13, 2017, 05:59:39 AM
Rubio was transcendent.
55  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / Smiley Smilers Who Make Music / Re: New Recording: \ on: February 12, 2017, 07:19:15 PM
Your feedback means a lot to me.
56  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: NBA 2017 Topic on: February 12, 2017, 05:33:49 PM
Tangentially related to the 76ers, and very relevant in the NBA world, it seems Mason Plumlee, a 2nd rounder, and cash, has been dealt to Denver for Jusuf Nurkic and a 1st rounder. It's relevant in that both Portland and Denver had been mentioned as possible landing spots for Philly's Okafor. This trade would presumably disqualify each? I would guess that means New Orleans or Chicago is the frontrunner for Okafor.
57  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: NBA 2017 Topic on: February 12, 2017, 05:28:19 PM
I'll gladly talk 76ers--or any team!--all and every day. Speaking of whom they are truly about to turn the corner. "The process" is about to bear fruit. Ben Simmons is a genius, and Joel Embiid is great. Brett Brown is easily the best coach the team has had since Larry of the same name. I love that team's future.

58  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: NBA 2017 Topic on: February 12, 2017, 05:17:51 PM
Could you guys keep this conversation to PMs?
59  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: NBA 2017 Topic on: February 12, 2017, 09:50:11 AM
OMG I just checked the injury report and Wade and Butler are both out!?!? Sadly this worries me a little: the Wolves have a long and storied tradition of blowing games to teams sitting all of their good players. (Memphis--multiple times--comes to mind.) Goddamnit. I'm having premonitions of Michael Carter Williams or Jerian Grant or Denzel Valentine kicking our asses.
60  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: NBA 2017 Topic on: February 12, 2017, 09:37:15 AM
Well, Love and Jefferson had huge, huge issues defensively. Love was doughy back then, so he was even slower of foot than he is now. And Jefferson became a much better defender as time went on in a team concept, but even so he really only worked his way up to, say, slightly below average. Back then he was horrible. And neither one could protect the rim at all, so you had guys just driving on everyone. (It didn't help that our backcourts couldn't defend, either...)

So I do acknowledge that a Love-Jefferson frontcourt wasn't going to work long-term. Especially since in those days Randy Wittman BRILLIANTLY refused to let Love shoot outside of the paint. (I'm not kidding.) So you had two low-post scorers and non-defenders as the centerpiece of the team at the time.

Thankfully, eventually we brought in Adelman to coach, which helped, and then Flip to lead the organization (and eventually coach). That helped a lot. Now, frankly it's too soon to see whether Thibs is going to be a great front office guy, but hopefully he'll do all right. I like what he's done so far, which is to say nothing much. I didn't love the Dunn pick, though I'm OK with it. But his best trait as a president so far has been not doing anything drastic, just rolling with the talented young guys, and seeing where we are. I don't expect anything major at the deadline, either, though we might make peripheral moves. I'd expect this offseason to be when we do something or other, whether it's Rubio, a core guy, or certainly Baz at least.
61  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: NBA 2017 Topic on: February 12, 2017, 09:24:15 AM
Well to make matters worse, let's remember that Al Jefferson was the centerpiece of what we got back in that KG trade. And while he was no KG (obviously), he was young and he was really, really good in the post on offense. As I said, he was a 20-and-10 guy. But if you want to make matters worse, you can take my previous post and start one step further back: KG. We traded KG to Boston for Jefferson, Gerald Green, and Sebastian Telfair, basically. (I assume there were picks in there, too, though I think my last post probably also dealt with all those picks, i.e., we basically traded them all down and sold them eventually for cash.)

We had another awful Boston-centered trade right before moving KG, too. Szczerbiak and a 2009 1st (plus some trash) to Boston for--are you ready!?--Ricky Davis, Mark Blount, and Marcus Banks (plus some other trash). We also did get a 2nd rounder in that, which turned into Pekovic, so that was nice.
62  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: NBA 2017 Topic on: February 12, 2017, 08:33:02 AM
You know, he wasn't always entirely incorrect. More along the lines of "too cute by half." For example, he really was good for breaking up large, terrible contracts and instead gambling more on cheaper, shorter-term deals and guys with legitimate talent. He helped us move from the Trenton Hassells, Troy Hudsons, Mark Blounts, and Ricky Davises of the world into guys who at least in theory could have been really valuable, and were to varying degrees: Michael Beasley, Darko Milicic, Gerald Green.

But he'd end up outsmarting himself, moving on his moves and then moving those. Consider, as Al Jefferson seemed necessary to move (and I believe as his contract was expiring) because of Love, we shipped him to Utah for Kosta Koufos and two future firsts (2011 and 2012). Koufos is a solid backup center. No complaints for him to be part of a package for Jefferson. But that 2011 pick was Donatas Motiejunas--again, a solid player, a real talent. We traded him immediately, packaging him with Jonny Flynn and the pick that became Will Barton to Houston for Brad Miller, Chandler Parsons, another future 1st, and the rights to Nikola Mirotic.

Now is where it gets nuts.

Brad Miller played 15 games and retired.

Chandler Parsons was immediately traded back to Houston for cash.

The rights to Nikola Mirotic were immediately traded for Norris Cole, Malcolm Lee, and cash.

The first round pick later turned out to be Andre Roberson, whom we packaged with Lee for cash and a future second-rounder (Allesandro Gentile, whose rights I believe we no longer hold).

So, we traded 20-and-10 Al Jefferson for a backup center (Kosta Koufos), 15 games of Brad Miller's final season, cash, and the rights to a 2nd round pick we no longer hold. In the process, we had and moved the rights to the likes of productive players Motiejunas, Mirotic, and Parsons. Even Roberson, to some extent. Oh, and Koufos? We had him for a handful of games before moving him in the Carmelo Anthony trade, our core get-back of which was Anthony Randolph, who is no longer in the league. (We also got cash in that deal. Shocker.)
63  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: NBA 2017 Topic on: February 12, 2017, 08:04:06 AM
To be fair, we knew Jackson was leaving regardless after that season: he'd said so prior to that year. Woj (who I read might be in negotiations to join ESPN, by the way) had Krause on his podcast last week or so, and he explained the dismantling in a way that did make some sense. Granted, that's 20 years later and coming from the guy who might be covering his own ass by telling revisionist history. But he was pointing out things like Jackson's imminent exit, Longley's and Rodman's health issues as their bodies broke down, Jordan's contract, etc. Basically nobody wanted to stick around unless the team was a championship contender, but financial and health considerations made that extremely unlikely, so they decided to blow it up.

But the fact that they were unable to really build anything despite some really good chances in those years is pretty sad. 1999, #1 pick (Elton Brand) and #16 pick (Ron Artest). 2000, #4 (Marcus Fizer), #6 (Chris Mihm), and #24 (Dalibor Bagaric). 2001, #4 (Eddy Curry) and via trade of Brand, #2 (Tyson Chandler). 2002, #2 (Jay Williams). 2003, #7 (Kirk Hinrich). 2004, #3 (Ben Gordon). 2006, #2 (Lamarcus Aldridge, traded for Tyrus Thomas). It's only then that they bring in Del Negro in that ballpark, draft Noah and then Rose, then have Thibs really turn that team into a legitimate winner. The fact that they had five first-rounders in 99-00, and really did nothing to further the progress of the team with them (just basically flipping them for more temporary pieces) is really sad. Wolves-like, actually. Kahn-like, to be more specific.
64  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: NBA 2017 Topic on: February 12, 2017, 07:46:40 AM
They weren't in charge back then, though, were they? Wasn't he a Krause-Reinsdorf guy? But that organization certainly has a rough history with management having predetermined, handpicked coaches in waiting...

65  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: NBA 2017 Topic on: February 12, 2017, 07:34:36 AM
Yeah he landed at UTEP shortly after leaving USC--maybe even that next season. And true to form (for his college coaching career), he has mostly had them successful. This looks like it will be only his second losing record in seven seasons there.
66  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: NBA 2017 Topic on: February 12, 2017, 07:16:15 AM
Hey, half a season that team included the guy I still think was the best high school player in Minnesota history, the great, great Khalid El-Amin. Obviously he didn't turn out to be the best, but just in terms of how he stood out above his competition and what he did as a high schooler in terms of winning, wow. So good. And he was pretty damn good as a rookie for Tim Floyd, right up until Floyd cut him midseason.
67  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: NBA 2017 Topic on: February 12, 2017, 06:36:35 AM
LOL. I'll grant him this: no former Timberwolf was as good at kicking women in the back at promotional events as JR Rider. (Sadly, real thing. Mall of America promotional event. Kicked a woman. In the back. Though to be fair, he claimed he did not kick her--he claimed he pushed her ... with his foot.)

I think my ultimate ironic jerseys of choice to wear to Wolves games would be something like Igor Rakocevic, Pat Durham, Gundars Vetra, maybe the late great Charles "Original Shaq" Shackleford (RIP!), or of course Darko. That or any of the guys we should have drafted: maybe a Steph Curry.
68  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: NBA 2017 Topic on: February 12, 2017, 06:17:24 AM
Despite having complained about going to games earlier in the thread, I will be in attendance to watch the Bulls hopefully get destroyed this afternoon. It's unusual to have the visiting team be more dysfunctional than Minnesota, in my experience, so that will be fun.
69  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / Smiley Smilers Who Make Music / Re: New Recording: \ on: February 11, 2017, 05:45:27 PM
Thank you. I like that kind of thing. I have an old Wendy/Cool Cool Water somewhere, too, with an old band.
70  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / Smiley Smilers Who Make Music / Re: New Recording: \ on: February 11, 2017, 01:24:09 PM
Isn't demon-fighting an adjective!?

Also I just added one more, my old, old "I'll Bet He's Nice," which I show as recorded in '01. Always liked it.

I was pointing at "songs" but "Peppy Demon-Fighting Genius" gives me a fun picture in my brain  LOL

And I'm checking out your IBHN cover stat, I friggin' love the shiat out of that song.

LOL I see now. I definitely like peppy before demon-fighting genius more than before songs. Though let's be honest, it's a lie either way.

And thanks re IBHN. Very kind.
71  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / Smiley Smilers Who Make Music / Re: New Recording: \ on: February 11, 2017, 01:17:56 PM
Isn't demon-fighting an adjective!?

Also I just added one more, my old, old "I'll Bet He's Nice," which I show as recorded in '01. Always liked it.
72  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / Smiley Smilers Who Make Music / Re: New Recording: \ on: February 11, 2017, 01:05:47 PM
Am I supposed to add peppy to my sig?
73  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / Smiley Smilers Who Make Music / Re: New Recording: \ on: February 11, 2017, 12:54:29 PM
Thanks, I appreciate that.
74  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / Smiley Smilers Who Make Music / Re: New Recording: \ on: February 11, 2017, 12:42:34 PM
I posted a few more in a specific playlist for the time being. They may not remain up too long, but have a listen now if you'd like.

https://soundcloud.com/the-beau-mondes/sets/b-wilson-beach-boys-covers
75  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Most Satisfying Pairing of Tracks on an Album on: February 11, 2017, 11:44:43 AM
I'd have a really hard time voting against "Our Prayer" into "Heroes and Villains."

However, I'd also have a really hard time voting against "Fun Fun Fun" into "Don't Worry Baby."

However, I'd also have a really hard time voting against the closing triumvirate on Surf's Up.

However, I'd also have a really hard time voting against the entire tracklist of Pet Sounds.
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