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51  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The \ on: July 15, 2014, 10:55:16 AM
Luluc, Passerby. (Wrote about it a little in the new releases thread.)
52  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: 2014 New Releases on: July 15, 2014, 08:49:29 AM
Looking for something exciting this summer, something to really capture the wildness of rock 'n' roll while the days are long and hot? This, my friends, is not the album for you.

Luluc's Passerby is understated and subtly beautiful, wholly inappropriate for the season but wonderful nonetheless. It's not the music leading up to the first encounter, but the music during or after, comfortable, contemplative, languorous. It's the autumn Sunday morning with coffee and a blanket to ward off the chilly breeze coming through your open window. In fact, it's one of the best couple of albums I've heard this year. Does Australian folk get any better? I have no idea, I've never heard Australian folk as far as I know. But I know I love this.

Zoe Randell handles most of the lead vocals, with Steve Hassett singing harmonies. The arrangements are soft and guitar-based, either acoustic or soft, mostly clean electrics. There are strings, horns, reed, keyboards, and percussion, but they sneak up on you. If anyone asked, you might say it's just an acoustic-and-vocal record. It gives that impression, almost the way Nick Drake's records might.

"Without a Face" is as good a representative of the album as any--ok, largely because it's on youtube--and you can hear it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQetpSkYnA8

But I'm especially partial to "Reverie on Norfolk Street" and "Tangled Heart."

The entire album, just out today on SubPop, is good. I bought it.
53  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Bad Vibrations: Who is your least favorite Beach Boy? on: July 15, 2014, 08:34:02 AM
I'm not saying the guys weren't interested in doing what they did, or that they were faking it. I'm just saying it isn't necessarily what they did naturally, or what they did best.

I can only wonder what would've happened if they had continued making music in the 'hippy' vein past Holland

Considering the hippie thing was a passing fad, I guess they'd have gotten just as passe as they did with surfing and car music. (At least their nostalgia thing got popular again by the mid- to late 70s.) Hippies grew up, got jobs, voted Reagan, and listened to shitty, shiny cheese. (OK, dramatic judgmental over-generalization ends here.)
54  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Bad Vibrations: Who is your least favorite Beach Boy? on: July 15, 2014, 07:23:06 AM
I know this isn't the point of the thread and I'm not going to pick a least favorite Beach Boy--I just don't think it matters one way or the other, to say nothing of the distastefulness of ranking people in the same way we might rank songs--but I wanted to chime in that I think I see where Gabo is coming from, even if I don't quite agree completely.

The Beach Boys needed a change in the early '70s if they were going to continue to exist, to sell records, etc. They were floundering commercially, I think that much is clear. And to some extent, the direction they went did work. They played hipper gigs, had a hipper look and sound, and had Holland, which was something of a relative success. (The real commercial success came with Endless Summer, but that's not the point of my post.) However, the way they pushed forward was by becoming imitators of the times and of their surroundings. They took on, somewhat artificially feeling to my eyes and ears, the trappings of what was happening in the scene. (It's not unlike 85 in that respect.)

And even their "maturity" sounds silly to me, mostly because it wasn't silly (if that makes sense). When they do "Take Good Care of Your Feet," I believe them. When they do "HELP Is on the Way," I believe them. When I hear "Beaks of Eagles," I cringe a little. This band is for the most part not great with deep sentiments, and they are least successful with them when they reach for them. Their greatest depths come when they're just sticking to what they know without trying to sound important. The seriousness of (most of) Holland is its undoing, along with its musical trend-hopping.

I'm not saying the guys weren't interested in doing what they did, or that they were faking it. I'm just saying it isn't necessarily what they did naturally, or what they did best.

(If memory serves, I've written and felt almost the exact opposite of this post before, so take it for what it's worth. By my accounting, it's worth about $15. Give me $15. Thank you.)
55  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: *Merged* Brian Wilson current album thread on: July 15, 2014, 06:25:29 AM

2. Zooey is an actress, and a singer


And a songwriter.
56  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / Smiley Smilers Who Make Music / Re: New Song: Be Okay on: July 15, 2014, 06:22:03 AM
ditch the dummy lyrics write something profound + meaningful  Razz  Afro  3D  police
Haha, tough crowd! I think this wasn't bad for a total of a little over two hours' work (across the two mornings)! Sometimes you just have to fill out the syllables...
57  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / Smiley Smilers Who Make Music / Re: New Song: Be Okay on: July 14, 2014, 05:41:30 PM
Thanks, EoL. I appreciate that.
58  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: *Merged* Brian Wilson current album thread on: July 14, 2014, 04:46:21 PM
I know, difference of opinion and all, but...

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Zooey really can't sing the way real singers are expected to. Her voice is weak. She can carry a tune, but she can't belt and she has no range at all. She can sing maybe one octave if she's lucky.  It's all the same alto croon. Both she and John get by on their big blue eyes. If they weren't physically attractive, they wouldn't have careers.

'Real ' singers don't all have to have 8 octave ranges and be loud enough to sink a boat. Just because she is not a belter doesn't mean she can't sing. By your criteria, that means Frank Sinatra was a weak singer, too, if we go by belting=singing. Not every 'real' singer relies on power...many rely on technique as well. Not trying to call you out that much on that, as again it is your own opinion, but one of my biggest pet peeves is oversinging, where someone hits about 50 runs in a row and is all over the place. I prefer my singers to be in tune first :/

There's also the matter of effective as a singer, what I consider being convincing--basically acting. (Or honest; it doesn't matter to me which it is.) Lou Reed, Bob Dylan, Tom Waits, Leonard Cohen: these are great singers. Clearly, none was ever the kind of "real singer" considered by the poster who is quoted above, but they all are great singers nonetheless.

I don't think of Zooey as anywhere near that league, and I agree that her voice isn't especially strong in the traditional sense either. But she is convincingly cute, playful, appealing. No gravitas, not much power, not a lot of range, but charm is every bit as valuable a quality in a voice. So while she may not be the most versatile, she's good enough in her little niche.
59  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: *Merged* Brian Wilson current album thread on: July 14, 2014, 02:54:07 PM

Kokomo is in that rare camp amongst songs like Who Let The Dogs Out, Tubthumping, Closing Time, and countless other one hit wonder 90's bands who's songs were fortunate enough to be get into rotation on MTV or the radio, and just drilled themselves deep into people's hearts and minds with such tenacity that the only logical human reaction after a point was to revolt ....... but then someone would say "But when it comes down to it, it REALLY is a good little tune" ....... Well, other than Who Let The Dogs Out.

Semisonic had at least one other hit beyond "Closing Time," with "Singing In My Sleep" reaching #11 in the U.S. in 1998. You'll likely recall the refrain (if you were listening to music in those days--I don't know how old you are).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhS3YP04Fjk&feature=kp

And Dan Wilson, their primary songwriter, of course has quite a few more hits: Adele, Dixie Chicks, etc. So he's hardly a one-hit wonder.

(Sorry, I'm sensitive about my hometown guys. Oh, except that I mocked Prince a few posts ago...)
60  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: John Lennon on: July 14, 2014, 02:46:57 PM
Of course most people on a Beach Boys forum are going to like McCartney more than Lennon...

I guess I didn't tally it up, but I think this thread shows the opposite. Seems more Lennon backers.

But like you, I like them both. And obviously it's not necessary to choose one any more than it is necessary to choose one band over another. There's plenty of time to listen to and love plenty of things. At least hopefully there's plenty of time (I guess one never knows).
61  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: *Merged* Brian Wilson current album thread on: July 14, 2014, 12:21:05 PM
Who knows, maybe Brian & Zooey's "Island Fever" will do the trick.
Considering Zooey hasn't ever had anything resembling a mainstream hit, I wouldn't bet on her for that kind of boost. I mean, it'd be nice, but it seems pretty unlikely.
62  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: John Lennon on: July 14, 2014, 12:16:36 PM
pauls songs lack uniqueness that johns have. he has more filler than anyone whose name is not rod stewart.

I'd say the exact opposite on both counts.
63  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: John Lennon on: July 14, 2014, 11:32:02 AM
If you guys are fans of melodies, you should really check out this guy named Paul McCartney.

Paul who?

Actually as would surprise nobody who has heard my songs or knows my taste, Paul is far and away my choice for greatest Beatle.
64  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Best Live Albums Ever! on: July 14, 2014, 11:29:09 AM
Tricky thing with Zappa is they several albums were recorded live or contained some live performances but don't scream out "Live album"

Well, the thing with Zappa is that he liked to overdub. He would keep the bass and drums and then replace everything else in the studio.

He's all over the map, really. With albums he advertised as live, he also boasted the absence of any overdubbing (though sometimes/often he spliced together different performances even within the same song).

However on albums not necessarily marketed as live, live recordings regularly formed a bed for studio work atop it, often making entirely new songs. This seems to be how he did most of his non-orchestral, non-Synclavier albums from the 80s onward.
65  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: *Merged* Brian Wilson current album thread on: July 14, 2014, 08:45:36 AM
However, I'm unaware if Prince has done any work with John Stamos yet.

He sticks to top talent like Kim Basinger and Carmen Electra.
66  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / Smiley Smilers Who Make Music / Re: New Song: Be Okay on: July 14, 2014, 04:56:43 AM
Other chords:

Intro:
D ' E/D '  / (3x) /  E7 ' ' '

Verse:
A ' ' ' / D ' / F#-7 ' / B-7 ' ' ' / E7 ' ' ' / (2x)

Refrain:
B ' F#/A# ' / E/G# ' G#-7 ' / F# ' ' ' / ' ' ' ' / ((2x)
D#-7 ' ' ' / G#-7 ' ' ' / E-7 ' ' ' /

(Bridge printed above)
67  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / Smiley Smilers Who Make Music / Re: New Song: Be Okay on: July 13, 2014, 08:35:51 PM
Just bridge.
68  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Make It Good Appreciation Thread on: July 13, 2014, 07:52:01 PM
Back to the gruff voice thing, I meant to go further than I did before. I think it works better in character than it does in earnest. Sometimes the character is earnest, which works. But for example, if Waits is growling some absurd note, it's inevitably in the character of some down-and-out, sympathetic protagonist. It's more acting than singing. When someone who is primarily singing sings that way, it's not so effective. And, as I initially alluded to without quite saying, I think that's something often taken as sincerity, when in reality, a lot of guys just have gruff voices. They aren't any more sincere or emotional than clear-toned singers. And when they miss their notes, it isn't any more touching than when clear-toned singers miss notes.

For a character to fail is tragedy in a good way. For a singer to fail is tragedy in a bad way.

In "Make It Good," I just think Dennis should have used the stronger voices available to him in parts. But as I said, I actually more or less like it as-is.
69  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Make It Good Appreciation Thread on: July 13, 2014, 07:36:12 PM
Anyone wanting to create or participate in message board drama is pathetic and needs an offline life. I'm sure Mikie and I can disagree without "drama."
70  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Make It Good Appreciation Thread on: July 13, 2014, 07:24:51 PM
I'm not one for the dragging out of pop songs, and sometimes (for my taste), Dennis's go on a bit too long.

Yeah, and you probably dislike "Wouldn't It Be Nice To Live Again" too because it drags on too long.

I just flat out disagree.

This is just lovely: I compliment something for NOT doing something I don't like, and I'm criticized anyway, with wholly unrelated topics brought in. Cute. Anyway, yes, I am not especially fond of the final minute of WIBNTLA, though the vocal bit is cool: I'd have liked a tighter arrangement.
71  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Best Live Albums Ever! on: July 13, 2014, 07:20:41 PM
The Dylan bootleg series Rolling Thunder Revue is pretty great, too.
72  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Best Live Albums Ever! on: July 13, 2014, 06:13:04 PM
Circa 1989, Music from the Elder was one of my favorite albums ever. Yikes. But I am an unabashed KISS fan, in a way. Meaning I fully understand what they were (and weren't), but they were hugely important to me and to rock n roll in the same kind of way the far better received Ramones were. Big dumb catchy pop (hard-)rock. Perfect for adolescent boys.
73  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Make It Good Appreciation Thread on: July 13, 2014, 06:11:02 PM
I said I LIKE "Make it Good" being the length it is:

"I also like that it's 2:39. He gets his point across and we can move on."

As for the gruff voices, well, I do hate Don Henley. Seriously, wow. Joe Cocker, meh. But I love plenty of gruff voiced musicians, like Tom Waits and latter-day Dylan. I think if you read the post, you'll see I said "many people like to call their favorite singers' edge-of-failure stretches 'emotional' or something." And I'm no exception. When Waits stretches, I think his performance shows some character. Ditto Dylan. When Dennis, not among my favorite singers, does it, I think "wow, you can't hit the note."

There is one key distinction, in that Beach Boys music tends to require more accurately pitched vocals due to underlying harmonies, including Dennis's. I've talked about it plenty in re Brian's deteriorating vocals, too. When your music is based largely on dense harmonic structures, you aren't afforded the errors allowed a bluesman, for example.

Anyway, I hope you'll read my posts more carefully in the future before criticizing them. Criticize what I actually said, at least.
74  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Best Live Albums Ever! on: July 13, 2014, 06:04:56 PM
I'm not really a live albums guy for the most part. I think they are the worst of all worlds, losing the power and magic of a live performance but lacking the polish and detail of a studio product. That said, here are a few more.

Frank Zappa - Live at the Roxy. Many candidates from FZ, but Roxy is spectacular. Cheepnis...

Simon & Garfunkel - Live from NYC 1967. Great singers, great backing band, great era.

Queen - Live Killers. And Live at Wembley for that matter. But the videos always take precedence with Queen live shows because of Freddie's charisma, which is enhanced by visuals.

KISS - Alive. No, it's not really particularly live (though many, many live albums suffer the same fate). But it broke them as a massively popular act and produced some definitive versions of tunes that in their studio versions fell flat. I suspect this board isn't especially KISS-friendly, but frankly I don't care. (I really like Alive II, too.)

75  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Ranking the Presidents on: July 13, 2014, 05:58:29 PM


But if I had to pick Presidents that I'd rank highly, I'd pick ... Jimmy Carter....

That's a rare pick.

It's also interesting that your picks included Carter and Reagan, who were pretty much diametrically opposed in virtually every policy matter.
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