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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love - Unleash the Love - Due November 17 - w/ 2nd Disc of BB Remakes on: October 07, 2017, 02:41:43 PM
That won’t work in this situation. Take it one more degree... Come on!
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love - Unleash the Love - Due November 17 - w/ 2nd Disc of BB Remakes on: October 07, 2017, 02:27:45 PM
Let's not steal my schtick, folks.
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love - Unleash the Love - Due November 17 - w/ 2nd Disc of BB Remakes on: October 07, 2017, 11:10:52 AM

Makes me proud to be a Minneapolitan.
4  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: NBA 2017 Topic on: October 07, 2017, 07:44:09 AM
Oh, the Knicks will win more games almost for sure. The Bulls, man ... they're going to be terrible. Just terrible. Off the top of my head, these are the likely options.

PG: Jerian Grant, Kris Dunn
SG: Denzel Valentine (Zach LaVine eventually)
SF: Paul Zipser?
PF: Niko Mirotic, Bobby Portis, Lauri Markkanen
C: Robin Lopez, Cristiano Felicio

I mean, wow. that's not a good team. I'm probably forgetting somebody, but I doubt he's any good. My guess is that Chicago wins 15-22 games.



Justin Holiday is another wing whom I'd forgotten. And I have to admit he's all right. Not good as a key player, but a decent low-rotation guy. Too bad he'll probably start...
5  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: NBA 2017 Topic on: October 06, 2017, 10:19:06 AM
And when I say rebuild, I'm not even saying they necessarily should have blown it all up. But they took a tepid approach that got nothing done. They could have moved some of the Thibs players for Hoiberg-style players and tried to retool on the fly. But no. They half-rebuilt, half-didn't.
6  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: NBA 2017 Topic on: October 06, 2017, 10:15:28 AM
They just haven't had a coherent strategy.

First, they went all-in with Thibs and that style. They won big. They alientated Thibs and made clear they had no intention of retaining him, to the point that it was obvious Hoiberg was the coach-in-waiting even while Thibs was still there.

They hire Hoiberg, but leave him with more or less Thibs' roster. He struggles.

Rather than really rebuild to suit Hoiberg's style, they build last year's ridiculous Frankenstein's Roster with Wade, Rondo, Butler, and Lopez, plus Grant, Portis, Valentine, etc.

At least now they're really rebuilding. But they're about two years too late.
7  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: NBA 2017 Topic on: October 06, 2017, 09:52:22 AM
Oh, the Knicks will win more games almost for sure. The Bulls, man ... they're going to be terrible. Just terrible. Off the top of my head, these are the likely options.

PG: Jerian Grant, Kris Dunn
SG: Denzel Valentine (Zach LaVine eventually)
SF: Paul Zipser?
PF: Niko Mirotic, Bobby Portis, Lauri Markkanen
C: Robin Lopez, Cristiano Felicio

I mean, wow. that's not a good team. I'm probably forgetting somebody, but I doubt he's any good. My guess is that Chicago wins 15-22 games.

The second-worst team? Probably Atlanta, who has moved almost everyone who's any good. Their best player, arguably by far, is now Dennis Schroder. Yikes.

Then it's into the Brooklyn, New York, Phoenix, Dallas, Orlando, Sacramento, LAL territory, where I could imagine anywhere from 23 to 33 wins depending on how the chips fall, who gets hurt, etc.

8  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Rock and Rock Hall of Fame - 2018 Ballot on: October 06, 2017, 09:31:32 AM
Yeah I wasn't actually sure what his point was. I thought it was based on our conversation about bands going out of their comfort zones or trying to stay modern, like the Monkees did in the 80s.
9  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: NBA 2017 Topic on: October 06, 2017, 09:29:35 AM
If Chicago even tries to win games (at the front office level .. obviously the people on the floor should try), they're beyond idiots. They need to win 15 games and get that chance at a high pick. I actually think they were stupid to retain Mirotic, too, since he's a serviceable veteran. They should have let him go, or maybe done a sign-and-trade at most, so they could get more playing time for Bobby Portis or Cristiano Felicio or whoever. They should let LaVine rehab until after All Star break. Role with Kris Dunn turnovers and air-balled floaters. Laugh as Denzel Valentine tries and fails on defense.

This team most of all needs new management. I wonder whether "consultant" Doug Collins wasn't actually brought in to advise ownership on the futures of Paxson and Forman. And by advise on, I mean walk into their offices and fire them.
10  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Rock and Rock Hall of Fame - 2018 Ballot on: October 06, 2017, 09:19:21 AM
Sir? Sir? I think you forgot your mic. (He forgot his mic. I think it's dented, too. Shame. That was a nice mic.)
11  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: NBA 2017 Topic on: October 06, 2017, 09:18:43 AM
I think injuries are going to be the story of the 76ers season. If Embiid plays less than two-thirds of the season, if Simmons gets hurt again, if an aging Redick gets banged up, if some of the other backcourt role players (Bayless, Stauskas) miss substantial time and thin out the rotation, they could be terrible. But there are so many more options this season, and obviously so much better high-end talent, I think at least high 30s is a realistic win total. And a playoff run if everyone is healthy is entirely possible.
12  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Rock and Rock Hall of Fame - 2018 Ballot on: October 06, 2017, 09:11:46 AM
I think it's just hard for anyone to admit they're getting older, they're not the new, hot thing, etc. Everyone (almost) wants to stay at the top of their game, even if they think suddenly trying their hand at a different game entirely is the way to do it.
13  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: NBA 2017 Topic on: October 06, 2017, 09:07:15 AM
Yeah I heard hockey was starting up last night. Or tonight. Whatever. Somehow despite being in what is most likely the best hockey state in the country, I mostly manage to ignore it entirely.
14  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Rock and Rock Hall of Fame - 2018 Ballot on: October 06, 2017, 08:59:08 AM
It's not even just hard rock bands. Think about the 60s and 70s artists who tried their hand at synth-heavy music, hairspray and headbands, and embarrassing music videos in the 80s only to realize youth, while wasted on, is best left to the young and returned to something more like their classic sounds in the 90s ... and of course touring solely on their hits again.
15  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Rock and Rock Hall of Fame - 2018 Ballot on: October 06, 2017, 08:37:56 AM
They changed it, returned to it, changed it, returned to it. Not unlike a lot of legacy acts who try to evolve, experiment, get lambasted for going too far or selling out, try to make a comeback, get mocked for imitating themselves, and on and on. Thomas Jefferson said something about how maybe a country needed a revolution every generation? Maybe every band should have a lifespan of 10 years and then call it quits. Avoid the whole phenomenon.

(Before examples are pointed out to me of bands that did good work over longer periods of time, I'm just musing. I don't believe that.)

16  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Rock and Rock Hall of Fame - 2018 Ballot on: October 06, 2017, 08:27:54 AM
I was just using them as an example of a band that had huge success in their time (unquestionable) and influence on later bands (Radiohead, Coldplay, etc). Obviously personal taste is a whole other thing: there are plenty of hugely successful bands I hate. (One of them has been named in this very post!)

Right, I get where you're coming from.  They might be the most successful rock band to emerge from the 80s.  Had their career ended in 1992, I just consider them first tier.  I think most of their 80s music is great. 



If we're going to take into account the tripe most acts put out after their heydays, the HoF would empty out in a hurry!
17  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Rock and Rock Hall of Fame - 2018 Ballot on: October 06, 2017, 08:22:26 AM
I was just using them as an example of a band that had huge success in their time (unquestionable) and influence on later bands (Radiohead, Coldplay, etc). Obviously personal taste is a whole other thing: there are plenty of hugely successful bands I hate. (One of them has been named in this very post!)
18  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Rock and Rock Hall of Fame - 2018 Ballot on: October 06, 2017, 08:18:27 AM

I think if the RNRHOF were to be that exclusive, then they'd have to make the criteria much more clear.  

Oh I wasn't actually suggesting that. It's too late, that cat is long-since out of the bag.
19  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Rock and Rock Hall of Fame - 2018 Ballot on: October 06, 2017, 08:01:00 AM
I can understand that. I do think it's arguably justifiable to expand from more pure rock n roll to pop in general, but as long as you're leapfrogging other rock n roll subgenres first, it's no longer even arguably justifiable.

As for the backlog, the other way to look at it could be like this: there are too many artists being admitted. Maybe there aren't enough acts to fill the show every year, so they've watered down the HoF (just as I think they do in the NBA, for example, where it's to the point that anyone who was ever an all-star or who was a solid starting player on a good team seems to get in). Maybe some of these still-omitted older bands shouldn't be in, and neither should their modern equivalents. Maybe it really should be the likes of Chuck Berry, Elvis, Buddy Holly, the Beatles, the Beach Boys, Led Zeppelin, Queen, U2 (NOT intended to be exhaustive so no calling me out on omissions). Not the second- or third-tier bands.
20  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Rock and Rock Hall of Fame - 2018 Ballot on: October 06, 2017, 07:44:35 AM
Elitists works. Those come in every shape and color, whereas I think hipsterism really does require some kind of "the newest thing" dimension that RS/Wenner haven't had in a looooooonnnnggggg time. I think RS would have been hipster when our first-generation BB fans were around, but not really since. But yeah, the elitism/narrow-mindedness of the HoF has been shameful.

What's worse is, they have arguably justifiably expanded the definition of RnR to include some great legacy artists (Miles Davis) as well as the "rock and roll" of the past generation or so, which is hip-hop-influenced RnB or rap...yet failed to expand their taste into those kinds of actual rock n roll that you mentioned. So hard rock, heavy metal, prog, arena rock are largely left on the outside looking in at non-rock and roll bands or artists. And that's hard to justify. It could be call The Middle Aged Critics' Self-Conscious Attempt at Open-Minded Praise of Pop Music Hall of Fame or something.

I absolutely agree about the HoF providing some great live performance moments.
21  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Rock and Rock Hall of Fame - 2018 Ballot on: October 06, 2017, 07:22:37 AM
I have to quibble with your word choice: while Wenner / RS might have been hipster 50 years ago, there's been nothing more boringly dad-rock over the past 20+ years. Whatever is actually hipster these days, odds are the likes of you and I don't even know what it is.

That said, as always, I won't bother voting because the RnR HoF is already long-since fatally flawed, and a kind of dumb idea in the first place. (I do like your votes though. Not a Moody Blues fan, but they would warrant inclusion along with the others.)
22  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: NBA 2017 Topic on: October 03, 2017, 03:08:22 PM
I've actually increasingly watched basketball from a distance. Throughout college and post-college, I did enough actual covering of teams that I saw most basketball close-up, with access to players, coaches, etc. As time has gone on, I've become more of a normal fan.

Well, normal is a relative term... But anyway, point being, I like watching basketball from a purely basketball perspective. The "fan experience," as marketing professionals (of which sadly I now am one) would pummel you with, is annoying and irrelevant. Watching basketball is at its best when it's just watching basketball.
23  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: NBA 2017 Topic on: October 03, 2017, 02:41:14 PM
I'm mostly not a "be a part of the crowd" kind of guy to begin with. (Shocking, I know.) But yeah, the increasing emphasis on so-called entertainment really takes away from the basketball from my perspective. The best basketball I've ever watched from a pure watching experience perspective is probably summer league at Target Center back when they hosted a small contingent of franchises (late 00s?). I remember sitting front row back when the Knicks had rookies David Lee and Nate Robinson, and Ron Artest was, I think, coming back from his suspension and playing summer league, obviously dominating everyone. You could hear everything every coach said, and 2/3 of what players said. Barely any fans. A good time!

Actually there was one unbelievable moment in one of those summer games. I recall Nate Robinson dunking over about 4-5 people--I mean that literally, he rose up over these people, literally atop them--and dunked. David Lee went nuts, walking along the first row talking to people (including me and a friend). "Did you see that? I've never seen anything like that in my life," he kept saying. It was a pretty spectacular dunk!
24  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: NBA 2017 Topic on: October 03, 2017, 02:08:52 PM
Never. I enjoy the occasional game but for the most part I'd rather watch sports in relative peace and quiet.
25  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: NBA 2017 Topic on: October 03, 2017, 01:30:27 PM
Nice change. Not only to abolish the conference differential, but hopefully (by picking players and playing for charities) picking up the level of play somewhat. I get that nobody is going to go all-out during an exhibition in the middle of the regular season and risk injury, but it has truly turned into a joke in the past 10-15 years. At least back in the 80s it was accepted that you'd come out flashy for the fans, but once you got deeper into the game, the players were trying to win. Sometimes they even played--GASP!--defense!
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