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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Smile - Pocket Symphony Mix (100+ tracks in a single, continuous experience) on: April 17, 2018, 09:09:14 PM
You're right, it's the "On and on" bit which was synced. However, I found that mix:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCEDU-Y_idM

 Cheesy ;DWOW you're right-- that "on-and-on" overlay... so good!  Shocked Shocked Shocked It perfectly captures what I love about Smile, the myriad ways these pieces fit together like a musical fractal. I'm sure if I hear enough nuggets like this I'll end up cracking open the mix again. My obsession with segues must come from loving The Dead/Phish  angel or Girl Talk, who used to make 40-minute mashups with hundreds of songs layed on top of each other in amazing ways (if you're curious  Huh, start here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB7C3JN_TsU). But it's been nice to finally clean my desk up of the 100s of index cards scrawled with things like "vege/on-and-on same key link" and "windchime -> piano?"  Grin

One thing I noticed in assembling all this material from various mixes around the internet... it was surprising how Heroes and Villains was so modular. It seemed like it fit everywhere, throughout Smile, like it was one and the same at times. I found a post on another forum that explained a bit about that feeling I was getting and led me to expand Heroes and Villains into the whole album, as it were. My thinking was, if Heroes and Villains was derived by condensing Smile, then it might be cool to expand Heroes and Villains and integrate it with Smile. (In making this I also really came to appreciate the inrony that Heroes and Villains lived up to the duality of its name-- cobbling it into a hit single was Brian’s only shot at buying himself the time he needed to finish Smile, but doing so meant cannibalizing so many musical ideas that Smile was left unfinishable... It was both Hero and Villain!). Here's the post verbatim:

"I suspect "Look" was abandoned because he took the "doo doo doo doo doo...." part and used it at the end of "Good Vibrations". This is the first Smile associated theft which killed a perfectly good song for the sake of a single. "H&V" took this to new extremes:

"Worms" lost it's chorus to "H&V". "Old Master Painter" lost it's fade to "H&V". "I'm In Great Shape" lost it's 'tape explosion' thing to "H&V" (though IIGS was part of HV in the first place so...), the 'sliding strings' thing of "My Only Sunshine" was stolen for "H&V" (see early takes of 'prelude to fade'), the laughter section of the cantina was stolen from "Vegetables", the chorus of "Cabin Essence" mutated into the H&V intro.

Who killed "Smile"? "Heroes and Villains" killed 'Smile'. "


Obviously there’s no definitively right or wrong way to reconstruct the musical pieces in the same sense that if you walked into a room with playing cards all over the floor, you can’t put the deck back together and definitively say this is how it was supposed to be. HOWEVER. If I told you Brian Wilson had just stormed out of there because he was THIS close to finishing a game of solitare, you might reconstruct the deck in ascending numerical order by suit, because now you understand HOW the cards got thrown all over the floor. In my attempt to put the pieces of Smile back together, I wanted to understand exactly HOW it fell apart in the first place; Heroes and Villains cannibalized something from almost every part of Smile as a whole until Brian had nothing left to release. In a very literal sense, then, Heroes and Villains is Smile, so if the question is what is Smile…? The answer is it’s Heroes and Villains.  Smokin   (That's just the principle I followed to build the mix, I'm not saying this is anything difinitive or historically accurate or anything!  LOL)
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson done barbershop quartet style! on: April 17, 2018, 08:42:14 PM
"They both are great as part of the over-all diet but I don't really want either as my main course." So true! But to echo what others have said, I like how this guy "gets" the Barbershop sound, rather than just singing four parts and calling it barbershop. It's an interesting take on the Beach Boys for sure, to push the music farther in that direction and bring out all those 7ths and tritone substitutions and whatever other tricks barbershoppers are doing all the time that blow my mind without me even knowing how. I've always wanted to see the National Championships... has anyone here been to one of those? http://www.barbershop.org/competitions/international-champions/quartet-champions/

Not gonna lie... listening to barbershop didn't make me the coolest kid in junior high.
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Smile - Pocket Symphony Mix (100+ tracks in a single, continuous experience) on: April 10, 2018, 09:20:10 AM
AHHH!!! Lee, thank you for the play by play  Grin Grin Grin and OSD thank you for the kind words! I'm so grateful to all of you for opening MY mind to all the possibilities! So many ideas came from forum threads of yesteryear!  angel

Someone pointed out there was a youtube encoding error during Cabin Essence, so I've re-encoded it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=As4IFTifnIk
... and don't worry, the mp3 downloads are unaffected!  Roll Eyes
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Smile - Pocket Symphony Mix (100+ tracks in a single, continuous experience) on: April 05, 2018, 01:53:59 PM
Almost forgot a youtube link if you want to stream it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Njoq7-4KMYc

And if you're in a hurry, here's two moments in the mix that stand out as my favorites:
Smile Solo Piano Medley coming out of Wind Chimes Piano Coda: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Njoq7-4KMYc&t=28m15s
Look segues into my compilation of Brian layering Good Vibrations and goofing around: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Njoq7-4KMYc&t=34m15s

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5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Smile - Pocket Symphony Mix (100+ tracks in a single, continuous experience) on: April 05, 2018, 12:10:59 PM
Hey everyone! After spending the last few months listening to every single piece of Smile-related audio I could get my hands on, I figured it would be selfish not to share my favorite arrangements and mixes with the world. I’ve brought together over 100 sources representing the best-sounding and most-interesting arrangements, mixes, mash-ups, demos, studio sessions, unused takes, comedy bits, and even some of Brian’s party recordings to create a single, continuous, 43-minute musical experience. I was inspired by Brian Wilson’s desire to make Smile a ‘Pocket Symphony,’ a total reinvention of the album as a new kind of musical experience. He generated an incredible volume of material, but in light of his well-publicized creative implosion that prevented the world from hearing the finished product, I've always felt many of his statements of intent from the time were written off as unfocused over-ambition at best… or madness at worst. From a 1966 interview with Brian: “I'm using some new production techniques that I think will surprise everyone. The album will include lots of humor - some musical and some spoken. It won't be like a comedy LP - there won't be any spoken tracks as such - but someone might say something in between verses. I never want it to get boring. When you’re stoned, 30 seconds feels like 2 hours."

This mix applies the unconventional quality of the individual pieces to the album as a whole, reimagining it not as a collection of songs but instead a single, continuous, psychedelic experience—a rhapsody that leaps from one idea to the next, incorporating comedy skits, studio tricks, and meandering musical interludes into its architecture. For me personally, hearing Smile this way felt like I was hearing it for the very first time, rendering all of Brian's heretofore-inscrutable ideas into a perfectly understandable gumbo, a vivid pointillist painting instead of 100+ colorful dots. Although it plays as a single conceptual experience, I’ve split the download into 12 gapless-playback tracks to simplify finding specific songs (and as a nod to the 12 tracks originally promised to be on the album). Here they are, with sources as best as I can remember:

1. Good Vibrations (unfinished w/ Western Session Outro Jam)
2. Our Prayer / Gee (Rehearsals and party dialogue mix)
3. Heroes and Villains (11 minutes and interwoven throughout I'm in Great Shape/ Barnyard/ OMP/ Sunshine/ With Me Tonight Mashup/ Vegetables/ Vege Fade/ Heroes and Villains Part 2/ Heroes And Villains Variations into Cantina section/ Fire/ Chimes/ Underwater chant/ I Wanna Be Around/ 3 Blind Mice/ Bridge to Indians)
4. Do You Like Worms? (With He Gives Speeches and Barnshide fade ending)
5. Cabin Essence (with instrumental prelude and mashup vocal ending into I Don’t Know outro Jam)
6. Cool Cool Water
7. Wind Chimes (w/ Syncopated bass and Piano Coda)
8. Smile Solo Piano Medley (I’m particularly in love with this… it’s every solo piano part I could find inspired by Brian’s love of Rhapsody in Blue, mixed some Vegitone party dialogue like we’re we’re just listening to Brian noodle around.)
9. Wonderful (with backup singing)
10. Look (with an original Good Vibrations assembly outro skit)
11. Child is the Father of the Man (w/ piano part, instrumental parts, BWPS, and Heroes and Villains)
12. Surf’s up (including and building off Daniele Catalucci’s comedy outro skit with Brian Falls into a Piano, with Tune X and some more comedy bits mixed in by me)

Google Drive Download Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1yiDXbh-WYlZ6GbYxeUWRGneDs5lk7zc8

Special thanks to all the brilliant fan mixers who’ve been doing this much longer than I have—you are so generous sharing your time and talents and your work is all over this project. Without hyperbole I want to say that you’ve made my life a more wonderful musical experience. This is for education/information purposes only, no commercial application or infringement intended. This is a new and improved update to 2017’s “Cantina Sketches" Mix. I hope you enjoy it as much as I do.

Sincerely,
Nick Confalone
twitter: @nickconfalone

Sources:
TSS Box Set
1967 Sunshine Tomorrow
Good Vibrations 30
Made in California
Hawthorne, CA
Vegitone 110, 111
BWPS
Seltaeb's Smile A.D. http://bit.ly/2GkkH4C
Daniele Catalucci http://bit.ly/2Dm5fBW
Soniclovenoize http://bit.ly/2FtUSle
IheartMikeLove http://bit.ly/2HslsYw
Summertime Blooz http://bit.ly/2Ikd3b2
sydsutcliffe's Alternate Smile: https://bit.ly/2GwMUV6

DETAILED MIX SOURCE SPECIFICS: Over 100 individual audio files are my sources for this, and here’s where they are as best as I can recall... Good Vibrations is the IHeartMikeLove mix that rebuilds it in stereo, segueing unfinished into a Western Session Jam mixed with a Vigotone vocal mix” carrying us to… Coming out of GV you’re hearing some unused Heroes and Villains piano tracks with Brian's Smile Party recording from Vigotone 111. It’s as though the boys are getting ready to begin a Sgt. Peppers-esque show within a show as we hear TSS’ Our Prayer dialogue and rehearsal takes into sydsutcliffe's stitch of the Our Prayer sessions. Gee is a combination of TSS dubbing session and Soniclovenoize’s stereo mix. Heroes & Villains begins with sydsutcliffe's durie parks mix, into Daniele Catalucci’s stereo mix, into the Smile A.D. mini-mix. I was inspired by the Piano demo where Brian links H+V to Great shape and Barnyard, so we take a quick diversion to TSS Great Shape before right back to HV next verse, then the flutter trombone segues us to Barnyard (soniclovenoize’s mix, plus my own original one), a comedy mashup of the two (my own mix incorporating Brian’s piano demo interview off TSS) into OMP/sunshine (Summertime Blooz and TSS), before seguing into Saltaeb’s mashup of With Me Tonight/Vegetables (which is made from several different Vegetable mixes combined by me), into Saltaeb’s mashup of the Vegatables Fade/Heroes leads to a stripped-down reprise of HV with acoustic rehearsal chorus from 1967 Sunshine tomorrow and a vocal verse with the backing track inserted. In the Cantina section, after “you’re under arrest,” I go into a mashup of Fire/chimes (got the idea from the Smiley forum!), then into nedstuff’s mashup of Underwater Chant /I Wanna Be Around. Three Blind Mice is used as tag after I Wanna Be Around, segueing via Bridge to Indians into… Do You Like Worms is BWPS’s verses with Soniclovenoize’s pre-chorus and chorus and there’s some Endless Smile in there too I believe. He Gives Speeches off TSS links to the sunshine fade (from alternative smile mix I think) followed by a bit of Brian’s Smile Era Party recording where he yells “Put on another tape!” Cabinessence has such a beautiful instrumental arrangement put together from TSS in the alternative smile mix that I open with it, into my own mix combined with Summertime Blooze’s for the chorse vs verse, with an extended Grand Coulee Dam section mixed from soniclovenoize’s combined with Saltaeb’s vocal mashup. TSS’s  “I don’t know” made the perfect outro to me with the banjo feel. Wind Chimes is a few sources including summertime blooz’s mix for the syncopated bass section but I also love the Piano Tag, which I added some party sounds underneath… As Heroes and Villains is throughout the album, this leads into a personal mix of Children Were Raised, to a Heroes and Villains Part 2 chant that uses another TSS piano part as a bridge into... Wonderful is Sydstutcliffe’s and Summertime Blooz’s mix with TSS backup singing added in by me. Look is several mixes together (Smile AD mostly) going into an original assembly of a bunch of TSS’s Good Vibrations sessions for a little comedy bit before… Child is the Father of the Man, a combination of about ten things because it just keeps sounding better and better the more I combine… TSS, Alternative Smile Mix, BPWS, Daniele’s, Summertime Blooz’s, and Saltaeb’s) then a final Heroes and Villains chant mashed-up over Darien Sahanaja’s amazing bridge into Surf’s up which is a mix of a bunch too but my brain is fried writing all this down, so… let’s just be done.

6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: SMiLE continues to blow my mind. on: April 05, 2018, 10:30:07 AM
I LOVE Daniele's mix!


Nick
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Smile - Cantina Sketches Fan Mix on: March 12, 2018, 10:36:49 AM
I know it's somewhat gauche to bump my own thread, but I just wanted to highlight a couple of moments that stand out as interesting in the assembly. Would love to hear your thoughts...!

Windchimes Piano Coda -> Smile Piano Medley
(I combined as much of Brian's piano noodling as I could, inspired by his love of Rhapsody in Blue and its improvised piano bridge).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwYY3SbK1J0&t=27m25s

Cabin Essence Over and Over Coda -> I Don't Know -> Cool Cool Water
(I loved finding musical similarities in these seemingly disparate tracks!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwYY3SbK1J0&t=22m41s
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Smile - Cantina Sketches Fan Mix on: December 14, 2017, 12:13:02 PM
When Brian set out to make his ‘Pocket Symphony,’ he didn’t just envision new kinds of songs... but an entirely new approach to the album as musical experience. After his breakdown and ensuing mental health issues that went along with Smile's notorious incompletion, much of his vision and on-the-record statements of intent at the time were written off as unfocused and unhinged over-ambition at best, madness at worst. Even BWPS and the official Smile Sessions release focused on organizing the material as discreet songs (albeit with recurring themes), essentially collecting non-conventional material in a very conventional way.

This mix finally applies the strange logic of the songs to the album itself, reimagining it not as a collection of songs but as a single, psychedelic experience--with jokes, skits, studio tricks, and meandering interludes all becoming part of the architecture. For me it was like hearing Smile for the first time. All of Brian’s previously “nonsensical” ideas suddenly seem perfectly understandable, like stepping back to see a bunch of dots become a pointillist painting.
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Smile - Cantina Sketches Fan Mix on: December 12, 2017, 09:11:08 AM
To elaborate, it's basically a “Best Of” mashup of my favorite Smile Fan Mixes and Mashups, featuring unused bits like Three Blind Mice, Tune X, I Don't Know, He Gives Speeches, etc. Here's a pretty specific breakdown of what's there...

Good Vibrations – from a youtube mix that rebuilds in stereo,  but before it I wanted to set the stage in a Cantina so I combined some Heroes and Villains piano parts with Brian's Smile Party recording and some Our Prayer dialogue like the BBs are warming up, then went into Our Prayer as an intro. GV is left unfinished as I segue into a Western Session Jam into…

Heroes and Villains – preceeded by Gee, then into an extended  Heroes and Villains mashup with Great Shape (Sataeb’s mashup!), Barnyard (soniclovenoize’s mix combined with my own), a comedy mashup of the two (my own mix), OMP/sunshine (Summertime Blooz), before seguing into Saltaeb’s mashup of With Me Tonight/Vegetables, before going into a personal mix of Vegatables. Saltaebs mashup of the Vegatables Fade/Heroes leads to a stripped-down reprise of HV with acoustic rehearsal chorus from 1967 Sunshine tomorrow. In the Cantina section, after “you’re under arrest,” I go into a mashup of Fire/chimes (got the idea from the Smiley forum!), then into nedstuff’s mashup of Underwater Chant /I Wanna Be Around

Three Blind Mice is used as tag after I Wanna Be Around, segueing via Bridge to Indians into BWPS’s verse for Do You Like Worms into Soniclovenoize’s pre-chorus and chorus. He Gives Speeches fits after Do You Like Worms seguing into the sunshine fade to close out the Heroes and Villains suite.

I Don’t Know fits great as a tag to Cabinessence, with an extended Grand Coulee Dam section by combining soniclovenoize’s mix with Saltaeb’s vocal mashup. After IDK, I go into Cool Cool Water and another Smile Party Tape comedy bit.

Wind Chimes combines summertime blooz’s mix (the syncopated bass section) and the Piano Tag, which segues into a medley of every unused piano part I could find from the smile sessions… Heroes and Villains piano lines, some piano from Vegatables and All Day… inspired by Rhapsody in Blue. Leads into My Children Were Raised, then a Heroes and Villains chant into...

Wonderful, made from Summertime Blooz’s mix into Saltaeb’s Look, which I extended by going into Good Vibrations for a bit before coming back into Child is the Father of the Man (itself a combination of BPWS, Daniele’s, Summertime Blooz’s, and Saltaeb’s) then a final Heroes and Villains chant mashed-up over Darien’s bridge into

Surf’s up... mix of Summertime Blooz’s into Daniele Catalucci’s comedy outro with Brian Falls into a Piano.

Tune X makes an appearance after the outro, which fades out back to the bar sounds where this all started. WHEW!!!

Sources:

Smile Sessions Box Set
1967 Sunshine Tomorrow
Good Vibrations – 30 years
Made in California
Hawthorne, CA
Vegitone 110, 111
Brian Wilson Presents Smile
Brian's Psychodelic Smile Party

nedstuff's Alt Smile
http://www.amirapress.com/video/t_z1568pVdl-Q

Seltaeb’s Smile A.D. Stereo 4.0 and Smile MiniMix vol 1 and 2
http://beachboyssmilead.blogspot.com/2012/01/beach-boys-smile-ad-40-stereo-vocal-mix.html

Daniele Catalucci’s Personal Smile Reconstruction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwCdeF0RzSI

Soniclovenoize’s incredible Smile Mixes
http://albumsthatneverwere.blogspot.com/2013/09/the-beach-boys-smile-2004.html

Good Vibrations stereo mix by IheartMikeLove
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfX-5Ok5pzo

Smile – The Americana Trip Slideshow by Summertime Blooz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doOws3284PQ&list=PLptIp1kEl6BWNpXyJ_mb20W4ZqJ14-Hgg
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Smile - Cantina Sketches Fan Mix on: December 11, 2017, 02:46:24 PM
After having so much fun reassembling Heroes and Villains, I decided to keep going and add another fan mix to the growing collection. Mine is a conceptual reconstruction of Smile as cabaret revue set in an old-timey western saloon / cantina. I Imagine The Beach Boys set up at a rickety piano (in character, a la The Beatles in Sgt. Peppers). I was inspired by an interview with Brian Wilson in 1966 about the direction he was headed: “I'm using some new production techniques that I think will surprise everyone. The album will include lots of humor - some musical and some spoken. It won't be like a comedy LP - there won't be any spoken tracks as such - but someone might say something in between verses.” I embraced snippets and short songs based on another interview that hinted at their plans to keep things from getting boring (“When you’re stoned, 30 seconds feels like 2 hours”)-- not sure when he said that though. I tried putting things together in similar keys or instrumentation, embracing the idea that Heroes and Villains would make thematic appearances throughout the Album. My thinking was, if Heroes and Villains was derived by condensing Smile, then it might be cool to expand Heroes and Villains and integrate it with Smile. (In making this I also really came to appreciate the inrony that Heroes and Villains lived up to the duality of its name-- cobbling it into a hit single was Brian’s only shot at buying himself the time he needed to finish Smile, but doing so meant cannibalizing so many musical ideas that Smile was left unfinishable!) Once again, thanks to all the brilliant fan mixers who did the hard work before me-- your stuff is amazing and all over this mix! Especially Seltaeb, Daniele Catalucci, Soniclovenoize, IheartMikeLove, and Summertime Blooz.

Smile (Cantina Sketches Fan Mix) -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwYY3SbK1J0

0:00 Intro - Our Prayer
1:17 Good Vibrations
3:36 Good Vibrations Jam
4:03 Gee
4:50 Heroes and Villains 1st Verse
4:33 I'm in Great Shape
5:50 Heroes and Villains 2nd Verse
6:34 Barnyard 
7:06 I’m In Great Shape/Barnyard comedy skit
7:22 Old Master Painter
7:37 You Are My Sunshine
8:21 With Me Tonight / Vega-tables Mashup
9:14 Vega-tables
11:50 Heroes and Villains Chant (Vegatables Fade)
12:40 Heroes and Villains Reprise (w/ Rehearsal takes into Cantina Section)
15:32 Fire / Intro Chimes as police chase
15:54 I Wanna Be Around / Water chant
16:16 Three Blind Mice / Cantina as a fade out
16:47 Do You Like Worms?
18:28 He Gives Speeches
19:22 Sunshine Fade Out
19:58 Back to the Cantina (Smile Party, Brian: “Back the tape up Will ya, put on another tape!”)
20:11 Cabin Essence
23:34 I Don’t Know
24:01Cool, Cool Water
25:20 Wind Chimes
27:35 Wind chimes piano coda
28:27 Piano Medley (HV Verse, All Day, Part 2, Part 3, 4)
29:54  Heroes and Villains (Children Were Raised)
30:48 Heroes and Villains Chant / Piano bridge
31:30 Wonderful
33:30 Look
33:40 Good Vibrations
33:50 Child is the Father of The Man
36:45 Heroes and Villains Chant/ Darien's lead in to...
37:20 Surf's Up
41:23 Brian Falls into a Piano / HV Fade
41:42 You’re Welcome
42:08 Tune X
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Heroes and Villains - 18-minute Pocket Symphony Edition on: December 11, 2017, 02:14:59 PM
Thanks for the kind words everyone... I've expanded it to include the rest of Smile-- I'll post about it in a thread!
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Heroes and Villains - 18-minute Pocket Symphony Edition on: December 09, 2017, 09:51:06 AM
Oh, I'd love to hear it-- I'm a big fan of your stuff from youtube!
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Heroes and Villains - 18-minute Pocket Symphony Edition on: December 08, 2017, 05:08:04 PM
I wanted to hear what Heroes and Villains might have sounded re-assembled with all the casualties from Smile, guided by Brian's demo and interviews and plenty of posts on this forum. Welcome back Barnyard, You are my Sunshine, I'm in Great Shape, Do a Lot, Vega-table Fade, All Day, and Bicycle Rider. The result is obviously not historically accurate in any sense, but I thought you all might dig it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arpt53KsHO4

Sources in order:
 (Our Prayer Sessions/Smile Party)
Gee
Heroes and Villains
I’m in Great Shape
Heroes and Villains
Barnyard
I’m in Great Shape
Old Master Painter
You Are My Sunshine
With Me Tonight
Vega-tables
Vega-tables Fade
Heroes and Villains
H+V Intro
H+V All Day
H+V Part 2
Heroes and Villains
Do You Like Worms?
Sunshine Fade
Brian Falls into a Piano
You’re Welcome
Tune X

Taken from Smile Sessions Box Set, 1967 Sunshine Tomorrow, Hawthorne, CA, Vegitone 110, 111. Special thanks to all the brilliant fan mixers who’ve been doing this much longer than I have—you are so generous sharing your time and talents: Seltaeb, Daniele Catalucci, Soniclovenoize, IheartMikeLove, and Summertime Blooz
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