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1  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: What are you watching now?/Favourite Movie of the Moment on: June 21, 2018, 09:44:07 AM
I too pretty much checked out in the early 2000s. To me Big Fish is his last good movie.

I love Ed Wood, Mars Attacks and Beetlejuice. And of course Batman (which was the first home movie I ever owned).
2  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: What are you watching now?/Favourite Movie of the Moment on: June 05, 2018, 10:26:06 AM
This week I finally got around to seeing The Shape of Water and Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri. Both were quite good, though the general plot of The Shape of Water was a bit predictable. Great set design and special effects carry it past that one drawback. I really liked Three Billboards. I'm a sucker for dark comedy. 
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Sounds of Summer back on the billboard 200 on: May 31, 2018, 01:00:46 PM
The 2xLP has been front and center at my local Target for the last few weeks, along with the vinyl reissues of Abbey Road, Thriller and Dark Side of the Moon. Pet Sounds has been in there too, but SoS seems to get more prominent placement.
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: Discuss Every Beach Boys Song Day By Day on: May 25, 2018, 09:28:09 AM
Sometimes I wish Bruce Johnston wouldn't write the songs. This one is a groaner.
5  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: What are you watching now?/Favourite Movie of the Moment on: May 22, 2018, 07:26:32 AM
I think the reason the laugh track was created was 1) to give the illusion that the show was filmed in front of a live studio audience and 2) because the show creators didn't trust the audience to catch the punchlines. Yes, it's stupid and seems dated now, but it's there because they think WE"RE stupid.
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: Discuss Every Beach Boys Song Day By Day on: May 03, 2018, 06:13:36 AM
To me, Angel Come Home is a standout on this album - 5.
7  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Gibson Files For Bankruptcy on: May 02, 2018, 11:26:32 AM
You talk about the used market. I'm surprised instrument manufacturers like Gibson and Fender haven't done something like car dealers have and offered "certified pre-owned" guitars to tap into those profits.
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Carl Wilson - 1973 Old Grey Whistle Test Interview on: May 02, 2018, 10:26:11 AM
I had to check my audio a few times. Am I going deaf? No, just a couple of low talkers.
9  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Hockey 2017- 2018 Thread on: April 30, 2018, 07:28:40 AM
Since my team is out, I think I'm throwing my support behind Vegas, even though the idea of hockey in the desert is absurd. Crazy how well they've done this year. Fleury has been great in net, and Karlsson has been a dynamo. And their pregrame ceremonies are ridiculous. They leaned hard into the Vegas glitz and theatrics.
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: Discuss Every Beach Boys Song Day By Day on: April 26, 2018, 12:29:58 PM
I haven't listened to this album for a while, so I was surprised by how many songs I liked (5-6). But there are still a few I actively dislike and the rest are just blah. I give this album a 2.
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: Discuss Every Beach Boys Song Day By Day on: April 25, 2018, 12:30:29 PM
Another nice vocal for a very bland song. I gave it a 2/5. Happy to be done with M.I.U.
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: Discuss Every Beach Boys Song Day By Day on: April 24, 2018, 07:38:16 AM
Brian's vocals sound really good on this otherwise lame song. I give it 2. I feel like this should run as the background music during some Love Boat montage. Or on an elevator.
13  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Hockey 2017- 2018 Thread on: April 24, 2018, 07:36:19 AM
As I figured, Columbus is knocked out in the first round. Now, I need to throw my allegiance behind someone else ... hmm.
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Why Do We Treat Brian Wilson Like a Child? on: April 23, 2018, 11:03:45 AM
Hello friends, I am a long time Beach Boys and Brian Wilson fan. I have been obsessed with their music for over twenty years now, and I have gone through all of my periods of loving hidden gems and underrated albums. I have seen Brian Wilson live in concert three times over the years, including in 2004 for his SMiLE live performance in Glasgow. I have been long curious as to why it is that many Brian Wilson/Beach Boys fans tend to think of Brian as a person who can't make decisions for himself. I don't just mean *now* either, I mean in retrospect looking back to the 60s when Brian was experimenting with drugs and many creative avenues. Nobody speaks of John Lennon or Paul McCartney or Bob Dylan like they needed to be protected from the harsh realities of the world, yet this is something that is brought up frequently with Brian. People even go so far to place the blame on the friends that forced him to take drugs, that he was incapable of making decisions for himself. This doesn't just condescend to Brian in terms of his life decisions, but also frequently carries over into the artistic choices he made. I am thinking especially of Smiley Smile, and the refusal to acknowledge it as a genuine artistic choice, rather than the product of a mental breakdown. Very few pine over what could have been with Sgt Pepper. They accept it as the end result of an artistic process. I still believe that SMiLE was more a work created by fans after the fact, than it was a genuine lost album. Things progress and change through the process and I am more than happy to take Smiley Smile as the end result of that process.

So I am curious, why do you think people have become so attached to the idea that Brian isn't all there and should have his decisions made for him by those more capable? Why are his artistic choices even now second-guessed and assumed to be the product of some other guiding hand? Or more than that, why we assume that he needs/needed that parental guidance?

Well to answer your basic question, interviews like this recent one don't help if you are asking perhaps why he is more perceived as being needed to be treated like a child. (Whether anyone is actually treating him like a child and what that means exactly, I don't know)

https://www.fortlauderdaledaily.com/upfront/noteworthy/5-minutes-brian-wilson-co-founder-beach-boys

But this interview is awful..as most of Brian's are. And the answers are indeed 'childlike' in some ways. Yes the questions are horrendous as well, but better questions would still get the same short, brutal and frankly, inconsistent answers. Why? Why is he subjected to these interviews. They are an embarrassment if we're honest about it. Hats off to the reporter for not slamming him and being respectful in her text. But c'mon. Either Brian is not mentally capable of giving a legitimate interview (which would be concerning) or he cares so little that he is willing to disrespect the professional relationship between artist and media, and as an extension, the public. It's ridiculous. Either don't do these interviews or figure out a way to approach them with some professionalism, even if the questions suck.

If you don't ask probing questions, you don't get deep answers. I work in journalism, and these are weak questions. It appears she had a list and didn't deviate to ask follow-up questions. That may be because, as she states, she had five minutes with Brian Wilson. That's not enough time to get much more than these terse answers. I don't blame him in this case.
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 2018 Record Store Day - The Beach Boys on: April 23, 2018, 06:45:42 AM
Well, Record Store Day has come and gone. Anybody find that Beach Boys, "In Paris with Andy Williams" EP? I've been debating whether I should try buying it from one of the European websites that appear to have it.

I did manage to buy one semi-Beach Boys related album: Van Dyke Parks, "Clang of the Yankee Reaper."
16  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: The What Are You Reading? Thread on: April 23, 2018, 06:20:15 AM
I plan to check out the movies after reading the books. The American Friend is a Wim Wenders film. It's a bit arty, but worth a watch.

I agree that Matt Damon is underrated. He never really wows me, but I usually like the movies he's in. I think the most recent thing I saw him in was The Martian. That was good. I've avoided most of the Jason Bourne movies.
17  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: The What Are You Reading? Thread on: April 20, 2018, 11:56:01 AM
Just started The Talented Mr. Ripley, by Patricia Highsmith. Many of her books, including the Tom Ripley stories, have been made into popular movies that I've somehow managed not to see. So far, so good.

I've never read the book but The Talented Mr. Ripley movie is fantastic.

I've heard good things about the movies. There are actually four books in the Ripley series. I have a collection of the first three from my library. All three have been made into movies, and actually I lied. I have seen one of them.

Obviously, there's the 1999 Matt Damon version of the first book, but also a 1960 French adaptation, called Purple Noon. Ripley Under Ground, the second book, was made into movie in 2005. The third book, Ripley's Game, has been adapted twice, first in 1977 as The American Friend with Dennis Hopper as Ripley (this is the one I've seen), and then in 2002 under its original title with John Malkovich.

Highsmith also wrote Strangers on a Train, which became one of Alfred Hitchcock's famous films.
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: Discuss Every Beach Boys Song Day By Day on: April 20, 2018, 08:29:30 AM
I think it's definitely one of the stronger songs on this "meh" album. I give it a 4. Love the vocals by Carl.
19  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: The What Are You Reading? Thread on: April 20, 2018, 08:27:22 AM
Just started The Talented Mr. Ripley, by Patricia Highsmith. Many of her books, including the Tom Ripley stories, have been made into popular movies that I've somehow managed not to see. So far, so good.
20  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Entertainment Thread / Re: Favorite Comic book movies on: April 20, 2018, 08:20:16 AM
Those are solid "desert island" choices, and I'm happy to see Superman Returns on your list of favorites. I think that movie is so underrated.

Superman: The Movie and Batman (1989) are still among my top favorites. I have a soft spot for the Spider-Man movies, as that was the first comic book I actually bought, but those films have about a 50/50 track record.

I'm also more of a fan of the DC characters as a whole, but after Christopher Nolan's Batman trilogy and aside from Wonder Woman, the other movies have been largely underwhelming. The Marvel movies are just so much fun.

I still need to see Black Panther, and I'm very excited for the next Avengers installment.

My top five off the top of my head:
The Dark Knight
Superman: The Movie
The Avengers
Thor: Ragnarok
Spider-Man: Homecoming
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: Discuss Every Beach Boys Song Day By Day on: April 19, 2018, 09:50:51 AM
Uh oh, no poll for "Sweet Sunday Kinda Love"? This one is such a sweet song. I'm ready to pounce with my vote ...
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Love & Mercy biopic reassessed on: April 19, 2018, 05:49:45 AM
Paul Giamatti's performance is imo the best acting in the 80s scenes.

Paul Giamatti has a knack for stealing the show in biopics. 

Check out his roles in Private Parts (Howard Stern) and Man on the Moon (Andy Kaufman).

He's also great as the star of a biopic. Check out American Splendor (Harvey Pekar).
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: Discuss Every Beach Boys Song Day By Day on: April 18, 2018, 12:47:47 PM
Boy, these M.I.U. songs aren't getting much discussion. Is it because it's just kind of a lackluster album, in general? I admit, though, I'm finding I enjoy the album more than before as I relisten to each track. I gave this one a 3. It's sort of pretty, but not very dynamic.
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Love & Mercy on: April 17, 2018, 12:29:45 PM
Why is this thread now titled "/"?

I've been wondering why it's just a slash too.
25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \ on: April 17, 2018, 06:22:11 AM
Inside the studio, Brian was confident and sefl-assured, but not so much outside that environment. I think Paul Dano portrayed that very well. Mark me down as another one who prefers the 1960s part of this film to the Cusack sections. I think Cusack did well with the general portrayal, but I wish they would have done a little work to make him look like Brian. That was my only complaint. Atticus Ross did wonderful job creating a soundscape to portray Brian's mind.  

Well I disagree, so there!  ...

That's fine.
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