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1  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: NFL 2018 on: September 19, 2018, 07:24:10 AM
And the Browns have almost not lost twice in a row ... 0-1-1!
2  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: What are you watching now?/Favourite Movie of the Moment on: September 18, 2018, 08:04:57 AM
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I know I was surprised the first time I watched 1975's One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest to see Danny Devito and Christopher Lloyd
Hey, me too! Isn't it fantastic? They played respective characters really well. 3D

Btw, the film credits Michael Douglas as producer. Is there any actor who didn't play in film but produced it (directing doesn't count)?

Nothing overly surprising except that Christopher Lloyd has several TV production credits, must notably Frasier. 

That's a different Christopher Lloyd. Check IMDB: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0515941/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr11

Well, color me surprised.   I've been wrong for a quarter century now. 

I was in the same boat. I finally realized it was a different guy when I happened to see that he won an Emmy for Modern Family and saw his picture. Doc Brown isn't quite as talented as I once believed.
3  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: What are you watching now?/Favourite Movie of the Moment on: September 17, 2018, 01:10:31 PM
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I know I was surprised the first time I watched 1975's One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest to see Danny Devito and Christopher Lloyd
Hey, me too! Isn't it fantastic? They played respective characters really well. 3D

Btw, the film credits Michael Douglas as producer. Is there any actor who didn't play in film but produced it (directing doesn't count)?

Nothing overly surprising except that Christopher Lloyd has several TV production credits, must notably Frasier. 

That's a different Christopher Lloyd. Check IMDB: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0515941/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr11
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: what did Glen Campbell do on stage with the BB's? on: September 06, 2018, 12:32:12 PM
Whooosh.

It's hard here sometimes  ('scuse the pun) ....

Mr. Campbell, your package.
5  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Mike may not be the richest Love anymore on: July 27, 2018, 07:33:45 AM
I was pleasantly surprised to see him sign an extension in Cleveland. He's gotten a lot of flack over the years, but I respect his recent efforts to dispel negative stereotypes about mental illness and appreciate that he wanted to stay in Cleveland. At least it won't be too painful to watch the Cavs in the wake of LeBron leaving again.
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: A Bizarre Retrospective on Friends on: June 28, 2018, 12:51:46 PM
I found the last three paragraphs to be particularly strange, especially the parts I put in boldface.

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If Pet Sounds was the introduction to a tormented genius, Friends became a segue for Wilson to pour out an even bigger range of emotions. Due to the instrumental similarities between the two projects, people did not react to Friends with as much praise unfortunately. In a way, fans just kind of expected this from him it seemed like.

Eventually, the tour for the record failed miserably, and Friends flew under the radar. Even to this day, if you ask any mild Beach Boys fan about the 1968 release, most if not all would say they don’t remember it.

Unsurprisingly, Pet Sounds became a more successful body of work because it was ultimately sad. And people love sad music. Heck, sir Paul Mccartney said he still cries when he hears the song, “God Only Knows.” On the other hand, the lasting legacy of Friends ironically developed into a shrug for listeners. No one knows about it, but the record was just as inventive and forward-thinking as Pet Sounds. As an accomplished musician dealing with a drug problem, Wilson became an instant legend in the latter part of the 60s. And many were lucky to witness his magic at the time.

So Pet Sounds is a masterpiece because it's sad?
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / A Bizarre Retrospective on Friends on: June 28, 2018, 12:07:59 PM
I came across this article on the Beach Boys 1968 album, Friends: https://www.theyoungfolks.com/music/122268/from-the-record-crate-the-beach-boys-friends-1968/

I was surprised there didn't seem to be much discussion about the album, considering its 50th anniversary just passed. However, this article has to be one of the stranger takes on the album I've ever read. The author repeatedly compares it to Pet Sounds and focuses entirely on Brian Wilson's contributions. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on the article. And while you're at it, how about your own reflections on Friends?
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian's back (his actual back) on: June 25, 2018, 10:03:43 AM
Gettin Hungry, I hope you can make both shows, so you don't have to choose.

Our show in Atlanta is going to be GH, but if I could hear "Wild Honey," "This Whole World," and "Feel Flows" performed in the same show, I'd be a very happy camper.

Short of starting a GoFundMe page for the two shows, I'll only be able to pick. They are just too close together to swing both. If I had an idea of what non-Christmas songs were to be included, I'd have an easier time deciding. We'll see.
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys Have A Number 1 Album! on: June 25, 2018, 06:07:52 AM
I don't know why, but this feels kind of like when a basketball player shoots at the wrong basket to get the last rebound needed for a triple double.
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian's back (his actual back) on: June 25, 2018, 06:00:53 AM
It's great to hear that Brian's back is better after surgery. I'm having a hard time deciding if I want to see the Christmas tour, which is playing locally, or drive three hours to Windsor to see the last (rescheduled) Pet Sounds show. I know everyone is tired of the Pet Sounds tour, but I missed my previous chances to see it.
11  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: What are you watching now?/Favourite Movie of the Moment on: June 21, 2018, 09:44:07 AM
I too pretty much checked out in the early 2000s. To me Big Fish is his last good movie.

I love Ed Wood, Mars Attacks and Beetlejuice. And of course Batman (which was the first home movie I ever owned).
12  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: What are you watching now?/Favourite Movie of the Moment on: June 05, 2018, 10:26:06 AM
This week I finally got around to seeing The Shape of Water and Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri. Both were quite good, though the general plot of The Shape of Water was a bit predictable. Great set design and special effects carry it past that one drawback. I really liked Three Billboards. I'm a sucker for dark comedy. 
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Sounds of Summer back on the billboard 200 on: May 31, 2018, 01:00:46 PM
The 2xLP has been front and center at my local Target for the last few weeks, along with the vinyl reissues of Abbey Road, Thriller and Dark Side of the Moon. Pet Sounds has been in there too, but SoS seems to get more prominent placement.
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: Discuss Every Beach Boys Song Day By Day on: May 25, 2018, 09:28:09 AM
Sometimes I wish Bruce Johnston wouldn't write the songs. This one is a groaner.
15  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: What are you watching now?/Favourite Movie of the Moment on: May 22, 2018, 07:26:32 AM
I think the reason the laugh track was created was 1) to give the illusion that the show was filmed in front of a live studio audience and 2) because the show creators didn't trust the audience to catch the punchlines. Yes, it's stupid and seems dated now, but it's there because they think WE"RE stupid.
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: Discuss Every Beach Boys Song Day By Day on: May 03, 2018, 06:13:36 AM
To me, Angel Come Home is a standout on this album - 5.
17  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Gibson Files For Bankruptcy on: May 02, 2018, 11:26:32 AM
You talk about the used market. I'm surprised instrument manufacturers like Gibson and Fender haven't done something like car dealers have and offered "certified pre-owned" guitars to tap into those profits.
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Carl Wilson - 1973 Old Grey Whistle Test Interview on: May 02, 2018, 10:26:11 AM
I had to check my audio a few times. Am I going deaf? No, just a couple of low talkers.
19  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Hockey 2017- 2018 Thread on: April 30, 2018, 07:28:40 AM
Since my team is out, I think I'm throwing my support behind Vegas, even though the idea of hockey in the desert is absurd. Crazy how well they've done this year. Fleury has been great in net, and Karlsson has been a dynamo. And their pregrame ceremonies are ridiculous. They leaned hard into the Vegas glitz and theatrics.
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: Discuss Every Beach Boys Song Day By Day on: April 26, 2018, 12:29:58 PM
I haven't listened to this album for a while, so I was surprised by how many songs I liked (5-6). But there are still a few I actively dislike and the rest are just blah. I give this album a 2.
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: Discuss Every Beach Boys Song Day By Day on: April 25, 2018, 12:30:29 PM
Another nice vocal for a very bland song. I gave it a 2/5. Happy to be done with M.I.U.
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: Discuss Every Beach Boys Song Day By Day on: April 24, 2018, 07:38:16 AM
Brian's vocals sound really good on this otherwise lame song. I give it 2. I feel like this should run as the background music during some Love Boat montage. Or on an elevator.
23  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Hockey 2017- 2018 Thread on: April 24, 2018, 07:36:19 AM
As I figured, Columbus is knocked out in the first round. Now, I need to throw my allegiance behind someone else ... hmm.
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Why Do We Treat Brian Wilson Like a Child? on: April 23, 2018, 11:03:45 AM
Hello friends, I am a long time Beach Boys and Brian Wilson fan. I have been obsessed with their music for over twenty years now, and I have gone through all of my periods of loving hidden gems and underrated albums. I have seen Brian Wilson live in concert three times over the years, including in 2004 for his SMiLE live performance in Glasgow. I have been long curious as to why it is that many Brian Wilson/Beach Boys fans tend to think of Brian as a person who can't make decisions for himself. I don't just mean *now* either, I mean in retrospect looking back to the 60s when Brian was experimenting with drugs and many creative avenues. Nobody speaks of John Lennon or Paul McCartney or Bob Dylan like they needed to be protected from the harsh realities of the world, yet this is something that is brought up frequently with Brian. People even go so far to place the blame on the friends that forced him to take drugs, that he was incapable of making decisions for himself. This doesn't just condescend to Brian in terms of his life decisions, but also frequently carries over into the artistic choices he made. I am thinking especially of Smiley Smile, and the refusal to acknowledge it as a genuine artistic choice, rather than the product of a mental breakdown. Very few pine over what could have been with Sgt Pepper. They accept it as the end result of an artistic process. I still believe that SMiLE was more a work created by fans after the fact, than it was a genuine lost album. Things progress and change through the process and I am more than happy to take Smiley Smile as the end result of that process.

So I am curious, why do you think people have become so attached to the idea that Brian isn't all there and should have his decisions made for him by those more capable? Why are his artistic choices even now second-guessed and assumed to be the product of some other guiding hand? Or more than that, why we assume that he needs/needed that parental guidance?

Well to answer your basic question, interviews like this recent one don't help if you are asking perhaps why he is more perceived as being needed to be treated like a child. (Whether anyone is actually treating him like a child and what that means exactly, I don't know)

https://www.fortlauderdaledaily.com/upfront/noteworthy/5-minutes-brian-wilson-co-founder-beach-boys

But this interview is awful..as most of Brian's are. And the answers are indeed 'childlike' in some ways. Yes the questions are horrendous as well, but better questions would still get the same short, brutal and frankly, inconsistent answers. Why? Why is he subjected to these interviews. They are an embarrassment if we're honest about it. Hats off to the reporter for not slamming him and being respectful in her text. But c'mon. Either Brian is not mentally capable of giving a legitimate interview (which would be concerning) or he cares so little that he is willing to disrespect the professional relationship between artist and media, and as an extension, the public. It's ridiculous. Either don't do these interviews or figure out a way to approach them with some professionalism, even if the questions suck.

If you don't ask probing questions, you don't get deep answers. I work in journalism, and these are weak questions. It appears she had a list and didn't deviate to ask follow-up questions. That may be because, as she states, she had five minutes with Brian Wilson. That's not enough time to get much more than these terse answers. I don't blame him in this case.
25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 2018 Record Store Day - The Beach Boys on: April 23, 2018, 06:45:42 AM
Well, Record Store Day has come and gone. Anybody find that Beach Boys, "In Paris with Andy Williams" EP? I've been debating whether I should try buying it from one of the European websites that appear to have it.

I did manage to buy one semi-Beach Boys related album: Van Dyke Parks, "Clang of the Yankee Reaper."
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