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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Definitive SSMB's Studio Album Ranking - Ranking Process on: September 11, 2018, 04:12:03 PM
1.   Smiley Smile
2.   Pet Sounds
3.   Love You
4.   20/20
5.   Party
6.   Today
7.   Surf's Up
8.   Sunflower
9.   Holland
10. Summer Days
2  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Favourite TV Show Themes on: April 17, 2018, 06:28:47 AM
Here's a good one by the great John  Barry that is mostly forgotten, probably because the 1971 series only lasted one season. His theme for The Persuaders:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UypR9O4IT8U

Great theme!
3  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Favourite TV Show Themes on: April 17, 2018, 06:26:04 AM
Three TV faves and their composers:

The Wild Wild West - Richard Markowitz
The Price Is Right Theme - Edd Kalehoff (or, Shelia Cole)
Green Acres - Vic Mizzy


Special Mentions:
Gotham City Municiple Swing Band - Neal Hefti. Theme for Bob Wilkins' various Northern California TV shows.
Syncopated Clock -  Leroy Anderson. Opening theme for Valley Playhouse (pretty sure), a local show out of Sacramento, CA.
4  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Any Jazz aficionado's here? on: April 15, 2018, 10:53:33 AM
Five favorites and their composers:

Nefertiti - Wayne Shorter
Volunteered Slavery - Roland Kirk
Compared To What - Eugene McDaniels
Stolen Moments - Oliver Nelson
Like Young - Andre Previn

Another five that could be faves:

Goodbye Porkpie Hat - Charles Mingus
Thembi - Pharoah Sanders
Girl Talk - Neal Hefti
In A Mist - Bix Beiderbecke
The Duke - Dave Brubeck
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Dean Torrence influence on Brian Wilson on: March 03, 2018, 01:38:14 PM
Jan had a distinct approach to his arrangements and productions. He was precise; you hear it in the Honolulu Lulu track that Mark A. Moore provided. He did not mimic or cop from Spector.  There are no slushy, imprecise things going on; the track is tight as can be, whereas Spector tracks (w/Jack Nitzsche arrangements) are not; they were executed a loose, but grooving way, then washed out with reverb. Both approaches had their merit.

Where Jan used Brian's influence is in songwriting: structure, lyric topics, melodic/harmonic devices. For instance, riding underneath Honolulu Lulu is Catch A Wave (chord progression in the verse, structure, and cymbals used with mallets).

6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Dean Torrence influence on Brian Wilson on: March 03, 2018, 06:51:08 AM
Currently trying to read this and figure out how we went from Dean Torrence to Donald Trump?  Huh


Maybe some here have the DTs.
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Songs Inspired by The Beach Boys on: February 26, 2018, 01:04:16 PM
Another one, WHY DOES A PRETTY GIRL SING THOSE SAD SONGS - Roy Wood

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9To94tvjrA

8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Songs Inspired by The Beach Boys on: February 26, 2018, 05:45:39 AM
DEAR BRIAN - Chris Rainbow
GHOST AT #1 - Jellyfish (especially the fade)
SHE'S JUST MY STYLE - Gary Lewis & The Playboys
and of course,
BEACH BABY - First Class

PS - I just remembered a conversation I had with songwriter Paul Davis in 1986. We were talking music and the conversation got around to Brian Wilson. He said that his song BOP (big country hit by Dan Seals) was inspired by DARLIN'. He then when on to demonstrate the ascending bassline in the the chorus of his song then sang a bit of DARLIN's verse over it.
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: How did the BBs make money in the 60s? on: February 22, 2018, 05:43:40 AM
The money a record company advances to an artist is used for the recording budget (studio, producer, hired talent and all related costs), from there, leftover funds go to the manager (back then it would have been between 10% and 15%), then to the artist. And, of course, all of that money would have been recoupable.

New signings rarely got advances where there was enough to live off. Often new artists would spend leftover funds on touring equipment. And when it came time to tour, there were often budget shortfalls. That was where 'tour support' from the record company came in. Tour support is a recoupable advance. Many artists were indebted to the record company from the get-go.
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love Oh! Those Girls & American Girls on: February 20, 2018, 07:08:49 PM
OH THOSE GIRLS was originally recorded by The Skatt Bros.. It was released in Australia and New Zealand.

This is my recollection of the song...

I believe Curt Boettcher had recorded a version. I heard the track, either from Curt or Ray McCarthy. Mike may have recorded it around the time of the Looking Back With Love project.

My impression was that Curt wasn't actually singing about girls.
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Name One Song You'd Wish The BBs Should Have Covered on: January 31, 2018, 02:08:36 PM
ALL STRUNG OUT - a beautiful, Gold Starry ballad, rocking the drug metaphors. Would have been great with leads and parts traded  by Carl, Brian, Mike and Al.

Nino Tempo & April Stevens lip-syncing to their single: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ogtsaXmxK0

12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: California Music on: January 15, 2018, 08:12:08 AM
The supergroup aspect of California Music was pretty much a journalistic hype. All or nearly all of the productions surrounding these releases (the RCA ones), fell under Terry Melcher's Equinox production company deal with RCA. Equinox had to deliver some number of singles and album  masters to RCA over a period of time in order to fulfill their contractual obligation. There was a 'team' of producers/artists/songwriters who, in various combinations, carried out the various creative duties. Mostly it was  Terry Melcher and Bruce Johnston, Curt Becher (as he was known then) and Bill House (check out his album; very good) were also involved.

There was some legal and economic convenience to using the California Music moniker. Equinox would not have to sign individual artists or groups in order to make some of the records. My suspicion is that Terry and/or Bruce owned the name.

From the looks of it, the agreement was structured on singles deals with options, and a small number of guaranteed album releases (Terry Melcher, Bill House, and I believe the David Cassidy - The Higher They Climb, album may have been part that deal).

Equinox may have 'promised' RCA that Brian would be a major participant; they had at least one commitment for Brian's production and arrangement services (Why Do Fools Fall In Love). That would have certainly sweetened the deal, considerably. I think Brian's skimpy involvement may be due to a combination of factors: contractual conflicts, loss of interest on Brian's part, or even an inability for Brian to do more than arrange, sing backgrounds, and co-produce that one track (WDFFIL).

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