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126  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Bruce's claim that \ on: June 18, 2021, 04:46:51 PM
Bruce is an odd character in a Beach Boys story full of odd characters.  AFAIK, he's never had anything resembling an ownership stake in the group.  Carl was paying him on a per-show basis in the early days.  And who knows, maybe Mike still pays him that way.   He started singing on, I think, California Girls, and is of course loud and clear on Pet Sounds and Smile.  Was he paid for that?  He certainly wasn't part of the recording deal with Capitol.   Or was he just a guest like a Dean Torrence or a Billy Hinsche or a Marilyn  singing on the record on an informal basis?  Did he care?   Beginning with Wild Honey, I think, Bruce started playing on BB tracks. Again, he wasn't legally part of the recording act, so was he paid like any other session musician?


I could be completely mistaken, but I believe Bruce plays bass on some Summer Days tracks (as did Al and Carl). I'm a little foggy on how involved he was in Smiley Smile.

Big talk to a guy who was better at being a beach boy knock off before becoming a beach boy. Then hardly contributing songs. Him and Al have got to be some of the luckiest musicians of all time.

Bruce apparently played the central role in arranging the vocals for the Surf's Up album. He was pretty significant on Sunflower as well. There's probably a fair amount of Bruce in the arranging on 20/20 as well, although those sessions seem to be a bit more mysterious. But essentially, during that period, when Brian was less "available," Bruce became the main vocal arranger. He actually bore a pretty heavy burden arranging their records when the band as a whole were at a low ebb commercially, but still a high point creatively.

I think it goes without saying that Surf's Up is more successfully arranged and produced, vocally and instrumentally, than Carl & the Passions, and Bruce deserves a ton of the credit for that. Even if you leave aside "Day in the Life of a Tree" and "'Til I Die" and credit those to Brian, and give Carl the vast majority of the credit for "Feel Flows", there's still a lot of fine music-making that Bruce made happen, including putting the title track together (alongside Carl). I think it's significant that we still don't know what a true SMiLE version of "Surf's Up" would have sounded like and when Brian revived it, he based his arrangement on the Carl-Bruce reconstruction.

I also don't believe this assessment is fair to Al, who arguably had the most demanding vocal role in the live band for many years, and played a lot of instrumental parts too in the studio (often holding down the bass chair when Brian had largely abandoned that instrument). Certainly during the Blondie/Ricky era, Al was working about as hard as Carl in the live show, if not in the studio.

So while it's probably true that Bruce has been pretty much coasting and counting his money for 40 years, and Al to a lesser degree, on no account do I consider either of them to be among "the luckiest musicians of all time." It's true that Al can't really write (most of his "originals" seem to be recycled Kingston Trio tunes) but I don't think his writing could have really added much to a band that also had Brian, Dennis, Carl, and Mike, not to mention pretty decent taste in covers.

Bruce is a hard guy to like for several reasons -- his politics and musical wimpiness chief among them -- but he's a talented guy. And I find it baffling that anyone would have an unkind word to say about Al.

Nice post. Bruce plays some keys on SDSN and Wild Honey, and bass on Party and “Wild Honey”. Brian and Al play bass on SDSN, along with some usual WC musicians.

Regarding, an unkind word about Al, I had an interesting experience with him, but I have been advised by others here I likely caught him on a bad day.
127  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: About Loren Schwartz on: June 17, 2021, 06:57:30 PM
Now known as Loren Daro.

I’m don’t know a lot about this time in Brian’s life, so this is one stupid thing I’ve been curious about: do we know about why or when this name change happened?
128  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Best point in time to break up-if any-to maximize the group's critical standing? on: June 17, 2021, 03:41:09 PM
I think most people might point to the tarmac incident of 1977 since following that they really became an oldies band that put out a couple  more albums that did nothing and failed to enhance their critical reputation.

What was the incident?

There was a massive fight within the band on Al’s birthday. Mike and Al were jealous of the response to POB. Al told Dennis the band didn’t need them now that Dennis had a solo career. Dennis told Al he could only play four chords. They split up for two weeks, until Mike was given Brian’s vote. Dennis was also told in this time he’d be fired if he did a POB solo tour (which Carl was going to join him for). A minor compromise was that he was allowed to play a couple POB songs in the next few BB shows.
129  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Oh god on: June 17, 2021, 03:15:04 PM
That all being said, and I'm no photo expert, I wonder if some additional attention is coming to this newest publicity shot because it's extra aggressively altered/photoshopped/processed.

The de-saturated look, the shirts looking like they were drawn on after the fact, the spacing/staging, etc. are all extra difficult on the eyes.

But I guess one positive is that it is, unto itself, truth in advertising.

Looks to me like it's a bunch of individual shots that have been comped together hence the awkwardness.

Really poor graphic design from a company that can certainly afford better. I do feel a bit bad for Mike insofar as he doesn't realise how tone deaf he is with his self presentation these days.



Yes, a man who comes out in support of hunting canned African animals and Donald Trump fascism would not suggest a man too concerned with his self presentation.

And a lot of the comments, understandably, have to do with that. I think we have a mix of several things brewing here: the  Mike and Bruce operation being light on official members, Mike’s actions in the last year or so, maybe some desire for a reunion because of all the RS coverage (maybe some who were unaware of C50 and the split learned over the last couple years because of the extra time created by the pandemic), etc. I think it is interesting (and good) that several people on Twitter knew who Al Jardine is.
130  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Pro Shot Beach Boys Concerts on: June 09, 2021, 11:01:20 AM
The whole show of May 6th 1998 was uploaded so I updated the link. This is a Mike, Bruce, David, Matt Jardine show.

Interesting. I thought that it was said this concert took place on the 9th and that it was Ali’s final show with the band? Does anyone have any more information? Thanks!!

Al's last official Beach Boys show (until a guest spot in 2011) was reportedly a benefit for the American Cancer Society in Detroit on May 9th. I've seen different dates for this Kentucky Horse Park show, including May 6 and May 30.

Thanks c-man, I think I must have confused them when I saw that this was a private performance as well.
131  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What is this and why did Capitol Records put it out? on: June 08, 2021, 05:56:08 PM
I tried to do some brief scouring but this was the closest thing I could find:

https://www.facebook.com/CavalryMusic/
132  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Pro Shot Beach Boys Concerts on: June 08, 2021, 05:41:41 PM
The whole show of May 6th 1998 was uploaded so I updated the link. This is a Mike, Bruce, David, Matt Jardine show.

Interesting. I thought that it was said this concert took place on the 9th and that it was Al’s final show with the band? Does anyone have any more information? Thanks!!

EDIT: Apparently I can’t type or autocorrect insists that Muhammad Ali did a show with the band in 1998.  Grin. Edited to correct.
133  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys re-unite for “Add Some Music to Your Day” re-recording. on: March 28, 2021, 10:22:19 PM
I've often pointed out when we have these "near reunion" projects that one reason one person might sit it out is to avoid it actually being a full *REUNION*. Sometimes some members don't want the added pressure of it actually being a real "Beach Boys" product/release, and/or they want to save an actual real reunion for a bigger event.

No offense to this latest project, but doing the first full BB reunion on record in a decade for a one-song, low-key, home brewed project is a bit like those that lobby for Brian, Al, and Dave to like show up at some random Mike/Bruce casino gig.

There's still a lot of selling power in a "first reunion in ten years" (or whatever) sort or project, so I think it makes sense to save this for when/if they do a real, full-blown group project (e.g. an album, a show/tour, etc.)

Obviously, in this case, the fact that this *isn't* a BB reunion didn't stop some headlines for calling it that. But I'd certainly prefer to save an actual reunion for something more substantive and high-profile.


All good points.

Ironically and oddly, the fact that this near-reunion does in fact reunite David and Al along with Mike and Bruce, which in and of itself is still somewhat significant in my view, it's stilll close to a reunion considering how Brian was so often absent from any number of Beach Boys related appearances in the 1960s and 1970s. Obviously the circumstances are different this time. But there's a weird "BBs history repeating itself" kind of vibe the more I think about it.

That said, it is a shame Brian isn't part of it, regardless of the reasons. I still contend that the many antics that Mike did last year couldn't exactly have *helped* bridge the gaps and fractures between the Brian and Mike camps. Time will tell if there's any full reunion activity that happens, but if Brian was asked to do this song during a soured time in their relationship, that could have contributed to the decision of whether he'd participate or not.

There's just so much more involved in a Brian-Mike reunion, even a recorded/virtual one. It's not a coincidence that Al and especially Dave have made more appearances with both "sides." Al appeared with Dave, Mike, and Bruce at that Ella thing in 2014. I don't think Al did that simply to cheer Mike on (a long back story is involved in that gig), but even with the politics and acrimony, it's *relatively* easier to get Al and Mike together. It doesn't always work (cut to later in 2014 for the infamous Jones Beach gig) of course.

Also, while I don't want to take away from the altruistic nature of this recording/project, it can't be ignored that, even though all band members including Brian have maintained a mutually beneficial friendly relationship with ESQ, that "Is he brain damaged? Yes." article from several years ago is something that conceivably is not always completely forgotten by Brian and his folks. Sure, they'll still pitch in autographed items for auctions, etc. But with all these factors at play, I'm not surprised one member isn't on this.

A real deal reunion, if it happens, should be a much bigger, more high profile event for many, many reasons.

Again, let me stress that any altruistic, charity-informed project is a good and admirable thing, I suspect the Beatles were never going to let Beatlefest's Mark Lapidos or Beatlefan's Bill King be the kingmaker in a Beatles reunion either.

A Beach Boys reunion should be a major label event with refined musical choices, and a major show and/or tour event if a live component happens.

HeyJude, could you go a little more into that? I thought that because of the Mike-Al acrimony, nothing would come out of that unless there was a third party involved (C50, this project, a possible 60th reunion). I always assumed Al attended the Ella thing because it was an award with a lot of guests honored and in attendance (Bill Medley, etc), and Jeff Foskett went too (but that could have been because he was moving over to Mike’s camp at that post). And didn’t Al only (almost) do Jones Beach because the promoters asked him to? That’s why I was surprised when Al mentioned in the RS interview recently talking to Mike.
134  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: My site updates 1967 on: March 03, 2021, 02:09:52 PM
Yeah, I remember reading about that in Look Listen Vibrate Smile. Apparently it was the result of Capitol stressing out about ‘Heroes and Villains’ still not ready for release (unless Priore is dead wrong or I’m remembering it wrong, it’s been a long time since I read anything from LLVS).

I don't have LLVS but that's what I remember reading on Wikipedia.  Even Mike was disappointed they didn't use one of Brian's originals if they had to release a stopgap single.
135  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: February 26, 2021, 08:26:17 PM
Was Van Dyke Parks interviewed for the set? A while ago, he indicated on Twitter that no interview took place. Maybe one took place since?

Not sure Van Dyke's input to the 1970-71 works was particularly massive - I dare say he was trying to avoid the Beach Boys scene at that time - but it's entirely possible that I should go back and have a read of the relevant literature on that.

[I know that a couple of SMiLE remnants surfaced on Sunflower & Surf's Up, but I doubt Van Dyke was consulted or had any involvement].

As far as I know, he helped convince Warner/Reprise to sign the band, IIRC.  That could be fairly important, and he could also have stories regarding "A Day in the Life of a Tree" (or "Sail On, Sailor" if a 1971 version has been located in the vaults).
136  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: California Music Presents Add Some Music on: February 26, 2021, 01:26:40 PM
Sorry to double-post, but we have an update now on some of the performers:

1. Add Some Music To Your Day - Mike, Al, Bruce, David Marks, Carnie and Wendy Wilson, Matt Jardine, etc.
2. Ram Raj - Mike (from UTL; maybe if we’re lucky, it will be without AutoTune?)
3. Jenny Clover - Al (is it the same mix as the single?)
4. She Believes In Love Again - Bruce
5. Long Promised Road - David Marks
6. Friends - "by the band member's kids," according to the Rolling Stone article.  Maybe a 2012 live version from California Saga?  It's probably recently recorded, though.
7. Get Together - Jeff Foskett
8. Golden State - Rob Bonfiglio?
9. Add Some Music To Your Day - vocals only?
10. Add Some Music To Your Day - original version? or backing track only?
137  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What if the Wilsons had had a neighbor that played drums in 1961? on: February 24, 2021, 09:34:09 PM
They get him and Marks as the neighbor guys. This time when Audrey forces Dennis in, it would be as a singer. He would be freed up from drumming and could sing lead and harmony as he had done since the first album (in the studio.) The live harmony would be huge with an extra voice on each song. Sorta on a different note, isn't it strange that on most of The Beach Boys albums, Dennis doesn't drum a whole lot, but he sings lead and harmony on every album. Then on stage, he mostly drummed and didn't sing a whole lot. How I miss Dennis Wilson!!!!!

Oh, come now. “Dennis didn’t drum a lot”. He drummed more than most realize. Especially in the early days. Then after the band become more of a self contained unit.

We need a list of every confirmed song Dennis plays drums on. I think it would shock a lot of people.

According to AGD’s site, Dennis drummed on:

- Every track on Surfin’ Safari (except ‘Surfin’’)
- Every track on Surfin’ USA (except the title track)
- Every track on Surfer Girl (though I thought Hal Blaine played on ‘Our Car Club’) - CORRECTION: most
- Every track on Little Deuce Coupe - CORRECTION: except Our Car Club
- Every track on Shut Down Vol. 2 - CORRECTION: not on Why Do Fools Fall in Love
- Every track on All Summer Long
- Every track on the Christmas Album (except the Dick Reynolds-arranged tracks I believe)
- Every track on Summer Days (And Summer Nights!!), apparently
- At least one track (‘That’s Not Me’) on Pet Sounds

I’m not sure if he played at all on Today.

So yeah.

- On The Beach Boys Today, Dennis played on When I Grow Up To Be A Man, Dance Dance Dance, I’m So Young, and She Knows Me Too Well
- On SDSN, Then I Kissed Her, Girl Don’t Tell Me, and You’re So Good To Me
- Almost all of Wild Honey
- Do It Again and I Can Hear Music from 20/20
- Add Some Music To Your Day from Sunflower
- Student Demonstration Time from Surf’s Up
- almost all of 15 Big Ones
- a little bit of Love You and MIU
- Good Timin, Shortenin’ Bread, and an overdub on Love Surrounds Me from LA
138  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys bought on: February 18, 2021, 09:41:15 AM
I’m also going to be negative here, sorry everyone. I don’t know as much as a lot of members here do, but what I do know is that Irving Azoff has too many artists already that are well-loved and he doesn’t do enough with them as it is. The only news about Journey recently is the band splitting in two - sound familiar? Don Henley and Irving Azoff refuse to put out any archival Eagles material, which would be a huge chunk of money for them. Bon Jovi hasn’t done anything of note after 2015/6 other than the reunion with Sambora at the R&RHOF. I had no problem with Mike selling some of his publishing to them, but the entire brand? That’s too risky in my opinion. Sure, the band mismanages everything as it is, so maybe a minority partner could have helped, but this is just too far in my opinion. I can’t read the RS article because of their new paywall, so does it break down the percentages of BRI now? I’m not surprised that Mike did this for the money, but I really am about Brian and Al (and a little about Justyn and Jonah).

The two positive things I will say is it would be nice to have some more merchandise and to bring back the SiriusXM channel. I appreciate some of these ideas, but I’m still very skeptical. Maybe when the guys pass away (which I don’t want to happen for a while), their children could have sold a bigger stake, but not yet IMO.
139  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: California Music Presents Add Some Music on: February 17, 2021, 10:15:03 PM

4. She Believes In Love Again - Bruce (wasn’t there a rumor he re-recorded this for Songs from Here & Back or for a 2007 EP?)


It's on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlSxbOAwWqQ

It was released on a sampler in 2007: Friday Music 2007 Sampler

I doubt it's a 2007 recording. Personally I'd say it's definitely pre-BB85, maybe late 70s.

I've pre-ordered -- wonder if this will come out before Feel Flows.

7. Get Together
8. Golden State - David Marks or Jeff Foskett?

"Get Together" is most likely Foskett, as he has recorded a version of this song. I think "Golden State" may be a Rob Bonfiglio track.


I knew I shouldn’t have guessed. Thanks BeachBoysCovers and Emdeeh for the info/corrections. I didn’t think that it would be the famous “Get Together,” more likely an original with the same title, but I am happy to be proven wrong.
140  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: California Music Presents Add Some Music on: February 17, 2021, 12:51:59 PM
Apologies if this was already known to folks; this release was certainly news to me, nor have I seen discussion of it here or around the internets. I neglected to copy/paste a tracklist included with the proper music link (I did not see one on the amazon page as of today but I only glanced). I'm not sure what to make of three different versions of the title cut. Looks to be remakes a-plenty, though. I'm still interested, regardless.

We knew about the title track (or one of them at least  Grin), but I believe the rest is new.

My best guesses, plus some process of elimination.

1. Add Some Music To Your Day - Mike, Al, Bruce, David Marks, Carnie and Wendy Wilson
2. Ram Raj - Mike (from UTL; maybe if we’re lucky it will be without AutoTune?)
3. Jenny Clover - Al (is it the same mix as the single, or has Al’s indecisiveness* graced us once again?)
4. She Believes In Love Again - Bruce (wasn’t there a rumor he re-recorded this for Songs from Here & Back or for a 2007 EP?)
5. Long Promised Road - David Marks?
6. Friends - Matt Jardine or Jeff Foskett?
7. Get Together
8. Golden State - David Marks or Jeff Foskett?
9. Add Some Music To Your Day - vocals only?
10. Add Some Music To Your Day - original version? or backing track only?

*I’m just as bad, though, so I shouldn’t be talking - or typing.

Really looking forward to this AND Bruce resurrects an old band name (How original  LOL)

Agreed. Couldn’t they have just called it Add Some Music?

141  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: First sign of genius: Surfer Girl (1963) on: February 07, 2021, 10:54:20 PM
"Surfer Girl" has two distinctions, no, three.

....but now he also hired the Wrecking Crew to play the instruments. The result was a fuller sound, which compares favorably to Phil Spector's studio productions.

As far as I know, which isn't much  LOL, there is very little of the Wrecking Crew on this album: Steve Douglas in place of Mike on saxophone (not a shocker,  Grin) and Hal Blaine on a little bit, and maybe Ray Pohlman (and I think Jan Berry) on one song.  I'd love for c-man, JH, or SaltyMarshmallow to correct me if I'm wrong, though.
142  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Any infos on Ron Brown? on: February 03, 2021, 09:19:20 PM
I'd love to know more if anyone finds anything. Ron's an interesting anomaly for the frequent studio work he did over about a month followed by... nothing at all. It feels noteworthy that he was playing on records at that early stage while Daryl Dragon seemingly wasn't for another year.

What do we know for sure about his involvement, session-wise? Darlin' and Time to Get Alone (via AFM), I Was Made to Love Her (via Bruce), probably Here Comes the Night going only by the sound of it, and I would assume Lonely Days for that reason too. Carl's bass playing on the basic track clearly isn't what survived to the master. Likewise Honey Get Home for the tone, and possibly that Been Way Too Long organ tag. Cool Water shares a date with HCTN but could just as easily be Carl.

Have Bruce or any of the others spoken about how/why he came to play on those tracks?

In his 2017 WH sessionography (from the ESQ that I’ve misplaced), c-man credited HCTN to Ron Brown. The others I don’t know obviously, other than c-man credits CCW to Carl. I’ve always had a hard time hearing a bass (that wasn’t a Moog) on CCW.

I believe the way I worded the HCTN credits was: Basic track was piano (Brian), probably with overdubs of bass (Ron Brown), guitar (Carl), and drums (Dennis)
The "probably" is there because we can't be certain, but that's what it sounds like. Smiley


Sorry to put words in your mouth, or post, c-man. I’m just too eager to spread your work around!! And I also couldn’t entirely remember because like I said, I misplaced that issue and can’t figure out where I put it.
143  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Any infos on Ron Brown? on: February 01, 2021, 04:51:13 PM
I'd love to know more if anyone finds anything. Ron's an interesting anomaly for the frequent studio work he did over about a month followed by... nothing at all. It feels noteworthy that he was playing on records at that early stage while Daryl Dragon seemingly wasn't for another year.

What do we know for sure about his involvement, session-wise? Darlin' and Time to Get Alone (via AFM), I Was Made to Love Her (via Bruce), probably Here Comes the Night going only by the sound of it, and I would assume Lonely Days for that reason too. Carl's bass playing on the basic track clearly isn't what survived to the master. Likewise Honey Get Home for the tone, and possibly that Been Way Too Long organ tag. Cool Water shares a date with HCTN but could just as easily be Carl.

Have Bruce or any of the others spoken about how/why he came to play on those tracks?

In his 2017 WH sessionography (from the ESQ that I’ve misplaced), c-man credited HCTN to Ron Brown. The others I don’t know obviously, other than c-man credits CCW to Carl. I’ve always had a hard time hearing a bass (that wasn’t a Moog) on CCW.
144  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Al, Y-Day at the Hollywood Bowl, and a mysterious Gibson SG... on: February 01, 2021, 09:21:18 AM
Yeah if you read Peter guralnick’s definitive two volume Elvis biography you might recall that he discusses that when Elvis played in Houston in early 1970 he was baffled when he came to rehearsal and saw monitors onstage. The young promoters were astounded that he had never used them-meaning these 1970 shows were apparently the first time Elvis and his band could ever hear themselves onstage while they were playing. Elvis was quite excited that day by this.

Yeah if you read Peter guralnick’s definitive two volume Elvis biography you might recall that he discusses that when Elvis played in Houston in early 1970 he was baffled when he came to rehearsal and saw monitors onstage. The young promoters were astounded that he had never used them-meaning these 1970 shows were apparently the first time Elvis and his band could ever hear themselves onstage while they were playing. Elvis was quite excited that day by this.



Which leads to Scotty Moore's famous line, that they where the only band that was literally directed by an ass  Grin

Regarding the Beach Boys' early live recordings, I'm a big fan of those. The Brian-years are rocking and quite impressive if you listen to the Sacramento and Chicago recordings and imo those could've been released without a lot of after work. 

As a massive fan of both Elvis Presley (love that quote from Scotty) and The Beach Boys, it makes me wonder when The Beach Boys first had monitors? Or if guitarfool and Ian know when monitors became common, to judge how strong the young promoters’ reaction to Elvis’ comment in Houston in 1970 was?
145  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Al, Y-Day at the Hollywood Bowl, and a mysterious Gibson SG... on: January 25, 2021, 10:25:22 AM
I hate to possibly derail what was such a good thread with a possibly stupid question, JH, but I’m curious.

I don’t have Becoming The Beach Boys yet and so this might be answered there, but I remember reading here on the board that Brian switched to bass on December 29th or 30th of 1961. That would leave Al without an instrument, unless the band used a dual-bass system like in Nashville or in Brian’s later productions or Al played rhythm guitar. Could he have played acoustic or would he have used an electric from late December 1961 until February 1962?
146  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike's buddy Trump gives BBs collaborator Toby Keith National Medal of the Arts on: January 18, 2021, 08:18:46 PM
Only 36 hours to go, Mike is surely prepping his phone call to the manager about what may soon be a grave injustice

The real question is which was the bigger injustice...not having credits on a bunch of songs until the ‘90’s, or not getting the award?
147  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike's buddy Trump gives BBs collaborator Toby Keith National Medal of the Arts on: January 14, 2021, 11:33:52 AM
Toby Keith is terrible so who cares but disappointed to see Ricky Skaggs there too.

Toby Keith to me is the definition of what is wrong with Country Music and has been for decades. Obviously he is not to blame for being part of the industry and he possibly is a nice person. But I can't stand people f*cking with Country Music. Probably one of the greatest music styles ever. And Toby Keith is a wannabe Waylon Jennings - and very bad at that.


I will agree that there has been a lot wrong with country in the last couple decades and hate seeing people mess with it, but Toby Keith is not too bad in my opinion. There are plenty of artists cranking out worse music than him that they claim to be “country”, especially but not limited to Luke Bryan, Dan and Shay, etc.
148  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Is there a reason why 'Still Cruisin' is not on Spotify ....or anywhere on: January 14, 2021, 09:46:05 AM
In my car is an absolute tune as well. Would have liked to have that available

Agreed...I have a serious obsession with In My Car.
149  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: January 14, 2021, 09:32:10 AM
And how did the FF snippets end up on Allmusic???

That was the way to keep everything from losing copyright in 2020 so they didn’t have to spoil the box by doing massive digital dumps.
150  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Christmas Rarities on: December 31, 2020, 10:15:38 PM
I wanted to remember to post about this before the end of the year, but I’m a little late now. About a week ago, I saw Bruce make a (random in my opinion) remote appearance in the syndicated Christmas special by Mark Milovats, who I did not know about until I was channel-surfing. By the way, Milovats is the worst lounge singer impressionist I have ever heard. Bruce introduced Milovats and sang at least a couple lines of Jingle Bells as an introduction to Milovats’ own performance, but I sadly don’t have any audio to donate to the thread.

EDIT: Fixed typo. And yeah I thought this could give us a “re-recording” if anyone found a copy.  Wink
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