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51  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Signe Anderson dead at 74 on: February 01, 2016, 02:47:11 PM
the BMG Heritage label release of JA takes off is still a great listen.  Pre summer of love and as clean and fresh sounding today as ever.    11 original tracks plus eight bonus tracks.  Signe and Paul at their finest.   Truly amazing harmony with Mary Balin.   
52  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Paul Kantner dead at 74 on: January 29, 2016, 10:07:05 PM
right up there with the Beach Boys in my fandom..........huge JA fan for many years.   sobering indeed that so many of my peers and idols are going so suddenly.......I knew this period would come but yet I am,  oddly ,still shocked and surprised.
My BFF of  many decades recently diagnosed with cancer.     suddenly feeling very mortal............and old.     time is an odd thing when it comes around so suddenly
53  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Don Henley/Mike Love on: January 20, 2016, 10:15:16 PM
Yes I know he is now departed.   Doesn't change my opinion.
54  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Don Henley/Mike Love on: January 20, 2016, 10:12:00 PM
  Glenn Frey is the Mike Love of The Eagles. 


 Perfect analogy.  I couldn't agree more.   My sentiments exactly.      His rants against former band mate s over the years, firing and damning his band mates,   Arrogantly going forward singing his prized little favorite tunes and raking in the money.........
55  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: RIP Glenn Frey on: January 18, 2016, 10:38:32 PM
I knew he had been a bit off kilter for a few years........I'd even in my mind compared him to Mike love........the ML of the eagles........so etimes not nice and instrumental in driving some members out of the band.   but knowing now of his steroid treatment and what that can do to the personality of even a good man.....I have a new perspective and empathy....and respect for his perseverance and strength to keep on keepin on.....RIP .
56  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Could Endless Summer have been a hit with new material? on: January 08, 2016, 09:19:11 AM
American Grafitti and thr resurgence of music from a simpler happier time in the early to mid 70's was a big factor and the title and cover came together at the right time.......backed by a double LP of superior content.
57  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Winds of Change (a new significance) on: January 06, 2016, 07:32:55 PM
I like the demo version.  Very nice.   Kinda raw and unpolished.  sometimes they overproduced things.   Best wishes to all who have met this recent weird weather head on.
58  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys Postage Stamp on: January 05, 2016, 01:32:04 PM
The monument theme would fit and be fitting on a stamp
59  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Do You Still Listen to the Old Classics? on: December 28, 2015, 09:48:58 AM
According to Seligmans research on happiness, the key to enjoyment of your favorite things is to learn how frequently or infrequently you can experience these things for maximum enjoyment.    He used the example of your favorite Springstein song.  every week or every three months?    since reading this and paying attention to my listening habits,   I now catch myself hitting the skip button more often and realize it is time to give certain music a rest.    sure enough, after 3 months of not hearing much of the Beach Boys or Grateful Dead, I find them quite satisfying.    also, listening on headphones occasionally juices up the listening experience
60  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Randell Kirsch on: December 26, 2015, 11:18:10 PM

never mind, my point was that I thought it must be more like 2000 rather than 200, which I knew was ridiculous.   Just playing with a calculator ,  Andrew, what would you estimate the net for Mike and the touring band after paying all costs and taxes and the cut payed to the BB organization?   FYI, I simply guessed average venue of 3000, average ticket 50 dollars and 180 shows.    Accurate or not is a place to start a guesstimate.    Just for fun, what would you guess?


The problem is that you're assuming there's a "net for Mike and the touring band" that's split between the band members. The backing band members are (as I understand it) paid a set rate per show, not a percentage of the takings.

In that case, it comes down to what the road band is willing to settle for....     In that case, I wonder how that figure is arrived at and what that figure, approximately is.......700 per show seems awfully low
61  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Randell Kirsch on: December 26, 2015, 02:33:01 PM
Care to show how you got those figures ?

Just a rough guesstimate Andrew......after someone suggested 200 per show.    why would anyone do that job for less than 100,000 us per year?    I work for a school system  where many administrators make that and they get to go home each nite and have weekends off.   Look at what the touring band takes in doing the number of shows they do in a year.   So I picked up my calculator and did a guesstimate just out of curiosity:)

Your math skills could use some polishing. $200 x 180 shows = $36,000, and that's gross. Where the hell you got between a quarter and half a million bucks from those figures is a complete mystery. Even using the more accurate figure of $700 only yields a gross of $126,000.
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never mind, my point was that I thought it must be more like 2000 rather than 200, which I knew was ridiculous.   Just playing with a calculator ,  Andrew, what would you estimate the net for Mike and the touring band after paying all costs and taxes and the cut payed to the BB organization?   FYI, I simply guessed average venue of 3000, average ticket 50 dollars and 180 shows.    Accurate or not is a place to start a guesstimate.    Just for fun, what would you guess?
62  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Randell Kirsch on: December 26, 2015, 12:24:56 PM
Care to show how you got those figures ?

Just a rough guesstimate Andrew......after someone suggested 200 per show.    why would anyone do that job for less than 100,000 us per year?    I work for a school system  where many administrators make that and they get to go home each nite and have weekends off.   Look at what the touring band takes in doing the number of shows they do in a year.   So I picked up my calculator and did a guesstimate just out of curiosity:)
63  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Randell Kirsch on: December 24, 2015, 08:59:46 PM
Since we've been bantering about backing band incomes, I brought out the calculator and considered the number of shows and the average take on a venue.  I am guessing the band members do quite well money wise.   but there is a price to pay for being on the road for 180 shows a year all over the planet.      Lots of money is being made and after ALL expenses including original members family takes, Crew, touring costs, venue cuts, etc., the back ip performers in the touring band could be making between 250k and 500 k.   After taxes well over 125,000 each.    Not bad but I don't think I would do it for that.  
64  Smiley Smile Stuff / Ask The Honored Guests / Re: The Stephen Desper Thread on: December 23, 2015, 09:20:21 AM
I want to thank Mr. desper for sharing the Spectrum 1980 performance.   Just the thing to light the fire under my waning  enthusiasm for this music...A very nice holiday gift!
65  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: To all my friends here... on: December 22, 2015, 11:11:12 AM
merry christmas andrew and to everyone here. as for me, for the first time in my life, i'm going away for christmas. leaving tomorrow for las vegas for the holidays. just hope i don't have another heart attack there!  Smiley


go easy on the ticker Steve and stay off the sidewalks.....I. Hear people are driving on them.....

and a very Merry Christmas to all and to AGD ........thanks to all for sharing all year on this forum...
66  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Randell Kirsch on: December 22, 2015, 11:04:29 AM
I've spoken to three members of the touring group over the past several months at different shows and to a close friend of a many decade member about the band and the touring.   They are all tired, some feeling their age, and all feel pressured to put out their best effort on more dates than they really care to play but don't have a voice on how many shows are performed so keep going to keep their jobs.  And they all appear very road weary.  I suspect that when an individual member begins to slip a bit in attitude or performance it becomes an issue of are you with the program or not.  I don't think Mike randomly replaces or fires people, he is just in charge and will see that the band functions as he sees fit for as many shows as he is willing to do in a given year.   
67  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Randell Kirsch on: December 22, 2015, 09:09:27 AM
People are fond of saying "It's all about the music".  But we all know that isn't exactly it.  From what I gather Mike's choice to tour so heavily is based on his desire to make more money, so it would follow that band decisions are made to further that goal for the most part.    People are expected to play, sing, and perform well and be willing to be on the road constantly.   
68  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Randell Kirsch on: December 21, 2015, 10:44:46 PM
does he still do gigs with Christian?
69  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Favorite Christmas songs? on: December 21, 2015, 10:51:06 AM
Yes.  and her new CD Introducing Darlene Love features all new productions bt Steve van zandt and a song by Bruce.   Great sound.  Better than Phil Spector imo




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The Darlene Love classic songs from the Spector Xmas album an more recent stiff with e street band and little steven.

I saw the Darlene Love Christmas show at the Howard Theater in Washington DC  this past Saturday nite.    drove 7 hours to get there.   worth every penny and every mile.   I '  m still reeling from it!

Are you referring to the Darlene Love song "Alone on Christmas" that was done with the E Street band for the Home Alone 2 soundtrack?  I love that song.  They really capture the Spector sound.  
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70  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Favorite Christmas songs? on: December 21, 2015, 08:42:18 AM
The Darlene Love classic songs from the Spector Xmas album an more recent stiff with e street band and little steven.

I saw the Darlene Love Christmas show at the Howard Theater in Washington DC  this past Saturday nite.    drove 7 hours to get there.   worth every penny and every mile.   I '  m still reeling from it!
71  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Talk About Awards For Love and Mercy on: December 14, 2015, 02:44:17 PM
 Just got a new time mag in the mail today, person of the year issue.In the section on 10 best movie performances Paul Dano lists as 5th and Elizabeth Banks 6th.   
72  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Best LP to reignite flagging passion for the Beachboys on: December 14, 2015, 09:22:03 AM
hi don...

try listening to any of the fug's lp's for a few days. by then you will crave the beach boys harmonies, songs, even mike's "humor" after a few days of the fugs...... and i'm sure you remember them   Smiley

I do remember them Steve.     that might just do it.     Wink.    didn't know you were still lurking here.........hope you have a nice holiday......pm sometime
73  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What's Your Favorite Car Song? on: December 11, 2015, 09:56:42 PM
LONG MAY YOU RUN........   " Maybe the Beachboys have got you now.....with those wave singing "Caroline Noooooo"

"Rollin down that empty ocean road, getting to the surf on time"........

Right out of Neil's heart for old cars.   Smiley
74  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Best LP to reignite flagging passion for the Beachboys on: December 11, 2015, 09:45:57 PM
What do you suggest?   Seldom have difficulty rediscovering some part of the catalogue.   But lately it all seems stale.....
I feel I have mined the middle period, Love You,  solo stuff,   Early stuff, and archival stuff......

anyone else feeling this malaise?
75  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: (Possibly/Apparently) Signed \ on: December 10, 2015, 07:37:05 AM
Where in northern ca?
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