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A possible addition to the concert list, or another case of mistaken date?

Anyone able to identify the other players to Al's right (I'm thinking Kowalski on percussion) and to Carl's immediate right?

Perhaps it's the (amateur) guitarist in me, but I hope the book contains some detail about Carl's guitar collection. I know that Justyn has said that there isn't a tonne of them, but I'd still be interested nonetheless.

Did you mean this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWwhrVXXcZU

I think Dennis is the most entertaining part of the interview! Without him, it would have been a rather mundane affair.

Here is the source:

https://youtu.be/r-kAnNgqN9o?t=2m53s

As someone who's seen the movie, I understand that to mean that the title "The Beach Boys" was mentioned numerous times but their musical contributions were summarily dismissed. Denny Tedesco perpetuates this myth by asserting that most of The Beach Boys mid-1960s instrumental tracks didn't feature any of The Beach Boys where the opposite is true. Carl especially played extensively on those two albums.

That's not really true, as least as I see it. For one thing, Carl is included in the film -- at least visually. He's in a lot of the pictures of BB recording dates used in the film. For another thing, the narration is very careful not to say that the session guys played on every BB song, or were the sole players on the group's records.

And as for emphasizing the BB's instrumental contributions -- that's not really the job of a documentary about session musicians, is it? The session guys were hugely important to BW and were instrumental (ha!) to his greatest records.

Sure, Carl is featured photographically (twice, and out of context) during The Beach Boy's segment. When the intro to "Fun, Fun, Fun" is played we are instantly presented with an image of Glen Campbell. This may lead the viewer to believe that it was Glen played the intro when in fact it was Carl as confirmed by the liner notes to KAEOS and by Glen himself in an earlier issue of Beach Boys Stomp. I realise that Glen did contribute 6-string bass to the track but if there was a time when an image of Carl should've been shown, it was at that moment.

Actually, it's "I Get Around" that Glen plays the 6-string bass on (doubled on an overdub by Ray Pohlman). Glen's not on "Fun, Fun, Fun" at all.

Thanks, Craig. My bad.

As someone who's seen the movie, I understand that to mean that the title "The Beach Boys" was mentioned numerous times but their musical contributions were summarily dismissed. Denny Tedesco perpetuates this myth by asserting that most of The Beach Boys mid-1960s instrumental tracks didn't feature any of The Beach Boys where the opposite is true. Carl especially played extensively on those two albums.

That's not really true, as least as I see it. For one thing, Carl is included in the film -- at least visually. He's in a lot of the pictures of BB recording dates used in the film. For another thing, the narration is very careful not to say that the session guys played on every BB song, or were the sole players on the group's records.

And as for emphasizing the BB's instrumental contributions -- that's not really the job of a documentary about session musicians, is it? The session guys were hugely important to BW and were instrumental (ha!) to his greatest records.

Sure, Carl is featured photographically (twice, and out of context) during The Beach Boy's segment. When the intro to "Fun, Fun, Fun" is played we are instantly presented with an image of Glen Campbell. This may lead the viewer to believe that it was Glen played the intro when in fact it was Carl as confirmed by the liner notes to KAEOS and by Glen himself in an earlier issue of Beach Boys Stomp. I realise that Glen did contribute 6-string bass to the track but if there was a time when an image of Carl should've been shown, it was at that moment.

Also, Denny Tedesco could have rephrased what he said with something like "A number of The Beach Boy's mid-sixties instrumental tracks featured The Wrecking Crew" rather than casting the group's contributions aside.

Thanks for the info, guitarfool2002.

Thank you for uploading the video. I wish there was more footage of just Carl playing guitar on his own.

BTW, any guitar buffs recognise the make/model of the guitar he's playing? I don't think that I've seen him play such a guitar before.

MFP - think it's a Gretch Pro Jet with a Bigsby

Thanks, Alan. Safe to say that it's not from his own collection of guitars then?

Speaking of which, I wish Billy had shown the collection of Carl's guitars when the subject of same was discussed with Justyn Wilson in the "Carl Wilson - Here and Now" DVD.

This is my favourite version of Fun, Fun, Fun but the sound quality isn't really good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtJ_Kquafyg

Is there anywhere a good sounding recording of this live version?

Not that I know of and there probably won't be until they decide to release the entire filmed concert in pristine quality. Next year celebrates the 40th anniversary of this gig, seems as good an excuse as any to release it then.

I’m guessing that may have cost more than the “Cool Cool Water” TV show clip (which brings up the issue of whether footage in releasable quality is even available; it was apparently a fluke that particular show survived).

Interesting that you should mention this as the reason why it survives is because a tape operator friend of Alan Boyd's made himself a copy of the performance while working at the company that syndicated the David Frost show. Sadly, the master tape was subsequently destroyed.

Thank you for uploading the video. I wish there was more footage of just Carl playing guitar on his own.

BTW, any guitar buffs recognise the make/model of the guitar he's playing? I don't think that I've seen him play such a guitar before.

The Lovester's Long Lost Sax.

Might still be somewhere in Urbana, Ohio.

The "Surf's Up" LP version for me; sublime vocal by Carl. Thankfully they had the foresight to complete the track in '71. The centre channel extraction from the 5.1 mix on the Endless Harmony DVD is illuminating.

As someone who's seen the movie, I understand that to mean that the title "The Beach Boys" was mentioned numerous times but their musical contributions were summarily dismissed. Denny Tedesco perpetuates this myth by asserting that most of The Beach Boys mid-1960s instrumental tracks didn't feature any of The Beach Boys where the opposite is true. Carl especially played extensively on those two albums.  In fact, Today and SDSN include two and three tracks respectively that don't feature any members of The Wrecking Crew.

Every song on Surfs Up has been performed live

True, although not contemporaneously

AFAIK the first documented live version of "Wouldn't It Be Nice" featuring the slow section was broadcast on the David Frost TV Show March 1 1971.

"Wake The World" was also altered compared to the studio version.

I don't think that the acappella break in "Sloop John B" was performed under Carl Wilson's leadership of the live band.

Sorry to hear of your loss, Steve. I hope things improve for you.

I've enjoyed reading your past magazine scanning efforts, so thanks for sharing.

Paul mentioned he saw the band in November 1966 in Copenhagen (presumably at the Falkoner Centret in Torsdagm on November 3, 1966 -- thanks, Ian!) and they opened with "Help Me, Rhonda." He believed Bruce was not yet a skilled bass player and that Carl took over the bass for "Good Vibrations." He recalled the cheering/screaming from the audience was deafening. 

That's an interesting observation. My understanding was that Carl claimed bass playing duties on "Good Vibrations" to allow Bruce to play organ. Personally, I always found the bass line in the verses of "Help Me, Rhonda" (particularly the first eight bars of each verse) more difficult than the bass line of "Good Vibrations." If Bruce was able to play bass live during "Help Me, Rhonda", then I'm impressed

Craig, this is absolutely fascinating stuff. If this level of detail is what we can expect in your upcoming sessionographies, we're in for a real treat!

Great stories Adam and Craig!

Disappointed, yet hardly surprised to see no mention of Dennis in the "Wrecking Crew and Friends, Drums/Percussion" section, yet Mickey Dolenz gets a nod The same lack of recognition for Brian in the "Arranger" section.

Oh well, at least Brian was spoken about glowingly...

Craig's Friend's sessionography in Vol. 20, issue 4 of ESQ lists "Wake The World" and "Be Here In The Morning" as featuring Mike vocals, along with his two leads.

Mike's parts on those two songs were added afterwards, since he was indeed in India during the initial recording of them (which is probably why Murry stepped in to add the low bass voice on "Be Here In The Mornin'"). But Mike is apparently not on "Friends" or "Little Bird", also recorded while he was in India. As for the rest of the album - I don't think Mike is on "When A Man Needs A Woman" or "Passing By", and definitely not on "Be Still" or "Diamond Head". As for "Transcendental Meditation" - despite that being written by Brian-Mike-Al, Brian is definitely the only BB I hear on there. Some of stated they think Al is, but I truly believe it's just Bri and Marilyn singing. The track was cut at the very end of the sessions, while the guys were away on the ill-fated tour of the southeast, and I don't think they bothered to add anyone else to it after they returned.

As for my Friends album sessionography in ESQ...since the time that was initially published seven years ago, new information has come to light - including inside skivvy from Alan Boyd that it's Brian, not Dennis, playing the organ on "Be Still" (and Brian did so again, a year later, for Steve Kalinich's version of the song), and the fact that Bruce plays piano on "Meant For You" while Brian plays organ.

Thanks for the detailed and updated info, Craig.

Craig's Friend's sessionography in Vol. 20, issue 4 of ESQ lists "Wake The World" and "Be Here In The Morning" as featuring Mike vocals, along with his two leads.

Billy Hinsche's "1974 On The Road With The Beach Boys - Director's Cut" DVD includes an interview with Don Lewis.