The Manson angle has, obviously, always been a touchy subject with most of the band members. How much of that is due to bad feelings and uneasiness versus simply being a PR issue, that’s up for debate I suppose. The farther away from Dennis the member/associate was/is, the more likely they seem to be more bemused about the whole debacle rather than alarmed or concerned. I sense Dennis was far more uneasy even broaching the subject than, say, Bruce, for instance.

Other than Mike weirdly using it as an “edgy” angle to sell his autobiography a few years ago, the band members have rarely volunteered to talk about Manson in any detail.

Which highlights the fact that the band has been pretty lucky over the years that they haven’t more often been asked about it, and that that particular angle to their story has not been more regularly highlighted in pieces on the band that cover their history.

Some of this was due to periods when nobody cared enough to interview them much or ask them about anything (e.g. some parts of the late 70s into the 80s). Their low ebb of fame and attention occasionaly benefitted them in that there was little scrutiny. Various brushes with the law in the 70s, or the band playing Sun City in 1981/82, went largely unnoticed.

There was one old TV news piece/interview that was up on YouTube *years* ago but has been gone for ages, where Brian and Al are being interviewed sitting next to each other, during the MIU-ish era in 1978, and the interviewer brings up Manson to Brian, and Al uncharacteristically gets super agitated and offended and blocks the interviewer from asking Brian about it. Al seemed to be genuinely concerned that discussing it would upset Brian.

Damn, i need to see that interview!

Is this the interview where they are at a record store to do a meet and greet for the LA Album release?

I read in an interview that Michael Stipe used the word "smile" as a reference to smile...and they put the cello triplets at the end to sound like good vibrations and the bells and stuff to sound like pet sounds and chord inversions to sound like the beach boys too....apparently stipe isnt a beach boys fan but the other guys are huge fans....i believe mills or buck wrote liner notes for....sunflower? or some other album.

I think Peter Buck wrote the liners for Love You.

Love the interview, it seems like into the early 80s he was very talkative in interviews.  I think there is some of it as well during the second Landy period.  When did this stop, in the early - mid 90s?

So, for the past couple months, a local record shop has allowed me to scoop up all of those "collector's album" LP's, where fans had put out hard copies of the unreleased Beach Boys albums.  I now have most of them - both editions of "Smile," both editions of "Adult Child," both editions of "Califo(r)nia Feeling", "The New Album", "Merry Christmas", and the 'random unreleased tracks' comp "Carl And The Passions: Made In USA."

One problem.

No "Landlocked."

I actually asked the store today if they'd seen that come in, and they were fairly certain they had sold it (he asked "that had a tan cover, right?").  I took to eBay, where - for the first time I've seen - they DO have a "Landlocked".... in not great condition, and priced exponentially higher than it should be.  (The other albums in the series have cost me about 25 apiece.  This was well over 100.)

So, being a Beach Boys forum, I want to put feelers out - does ANYONE have a Brother Records "Landlocked" to spare?  Name a price.  If it's under 100 (including shipping), I'll buy it.

Comment:   There is no album "Landlocked."  It is a myth fabricated by the fan base.  This subject is covered in my book Recording The Beach Boys in the addendum to part one..~swd

I believe he is looking for the bootleg Vinyl LP called Landlocked.

WTOP audio interview

https://wtop.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/brian-wilson-interview.mp3?_=2

Warning: it’s an awkward listen. Amazingly the interviewer gets 15 minutes of material without Brian really getting involved

That is pretty brutal.

"And why is that your favorite song on Surf's Up"

"Because Jack Riley is a great singer"

a Google drive in the description?  I'm not finding this... can someone help?

BB Footage Saga posted youtube clip, i.e. google drive is in youtube video description.

I don't see the link in the youbube video description.  Can someone post the link here?

I wonder if the second Flame LP will be included?

On the Sunrays box set vintage rays, it has the colonels song on it, which was a jingle he wrote for Kentucky Fried Chicken with him singing, here is a link:

https://youtu.be/Jsio42ZOYnI

Listen to the harmony stack in the chorus, yes.

The video has that look deliberately, Kesha shot it using a phone and then sent it through the VHS filter effect to get that grainy videotape look.

Recent guest spots like Janelle Monet with Brian on "Dirty Computer" now Kesha with this track...prior to that, Katy Perry and Kasey Musgraves and others...What's refreshing is to see these younger artists in genres far removed from the Beach Boys or even rock in general having Brian guest on their tracks. If it opens up even a handful of their fans to checking out Brian's music and history, it's a positive thing.

What are the Katy Perry and Kasey Musgraves guest spots?  Is the Kasey's "Guess You Had To Be There" on NPP?

Was he aware that he was terminally ill at that point?

No, this was 1986.

When did he own this property?

OMG, I totally missed the article about Briella. So sad.

(BTW, this must be at least Jeff's third marriage. I remember reading an article where he explained his original 1990 departure from the Beach Boys and how it saved his marriage. Well...I met Jeff's wife Diana in 2003 shortly after they got married, but the article EmdeeH linked says his wife's name is Allison...)

I believe that EmdeeH said that the Briella article is a different Jeff Foskett.

- Can anyone ID some of the people in the campfire "audience"? I know some (or all?) of Al's kids are there, as well as Billy Hinsche and Jeff Foskett. Not sure I can ID anyone else. I'm guessing some of the women were band members' girlfriends (?), and possibly some of the kids were the friends of BBs' own children. On the other hand, maybe some of them were extras to pad out the feel of the audience?

Is Mike Meros sitting behind the little girls that are dancing by the fire?

Any word on a 1969 Release?

It seems like it's been taken offline.

Looks that way. 

The link in the first post still works for me.

But when you click on either "play all" or each individual track it says the file is unavailable.

Nope

I get "the file is unavailable." error as well.  Maybe it is a region thing?

Anyone hear anything about a release date on this?  I thought it was supposed to be this year.

It’s at the very end. Some nice clips

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AxHzXpmk-VU

That was great!  Would love to see more videos of the Friends stuff.

The video is up (with clips) and man it was special seeing everyone gathered around the piano Brian was playing doing In My Room.
Wish I’d have been there!

Where is the video?  Do you have a link?

I'll have to A/B this version of "Waves of Love" to the previous version. It sounds pretty similar. It's definitely the "saxophone/soundcheck" version found on the first pressing of the 2012 CD (the one with the buried Carl vocal), with possibly some mix variations.

The other two are cool to hear. "Jenny Clover" is another Al piano ballad in the mold of "And I Always Will." Al's voice sounds great; the song is okay. I have to give it more listens.

"Middle of Nowhere" very much *screams* NINETIES!!!!! This reminds me of what "Summer in Paradise" could have sounded like with better production. But yeah, it's very early-mid 90s. The closest comparison in the BB world I could think of is that it sounds a bit production-wise and style-wise like the 1997 "The Wilsons" album. Nice Matt lead and backing from Al. Very much sounds like an attempt at a "The Jardines" album.

I don't think either of these songs are as good as the best stuff on "Postcards", but they're nice to listen to and more indicators that Al probably has like 50 more tracks buried that we've never heard.

I just listened to both, and I think there are some subtle differences.  This is version 4.

 Bruce clearly wasn't enamoured with the idea and sabotaged it by hiding the tape before they could add finishing touches.

Now I can't get a picture out of my mind of Bruce - dressed as The Hamburglar - sneaking around and hiding a tape, then wiping down the area to erase fingerprints. It's no wonder Bruce left. I wonder where he hid the tapes?

Talk about dysfunction. Reminds me of the type of dysfunctional stuff that happened later in the 70s, with Brian's fridge being padlocked.

More evidence for my theory that Bruce is actually the funniest Beach Boy, just by being a dick in the most incomprehensible ways possible. Marilyn got really upset about it and even made Bruce phone him to apologise.

This seems odd since Bruce was out of the band by the time of So Tough.  Why would he have even had access is weird?  It seems like they could have made him give it back.

Bruce left during the So Tough session IIRC. His "Ten years of harmony" (later retiteled as "Endless harmony") was supposed to be recorded for So Tough.

Ahhh, ok.  That makes sense then.

 Bruce clearly wasn't enamoured with the idea and sabotaged it by hiding the tape before they could add finishing touches.

Now I can't get a picture out of my mind of Bruce - dressed as The Hamburglar - sneaking around and hiding a tape, then wiping down the area to erase fingerprints. It's no wonder Bruce left. I wonder where he hid the tapes?

Talk about dysfunction. Reminds me of the type of dysfunctional stuff that happened later in the 70s, with Brian's fridge being padlocked.

More evidence for my theory that Bruce is actually the funniest Beach Boy, just by being a dick in the most incomprehensible ways possible. Marilyn got really upset about it and even made Bruce phone him to apologise.

This seems odd since Bruce was out of the band by the time of So Tough.  Why would he have even had access is weird?  It seems like they could have made him give it back.

Nice! Any info on "Jenny Clover"? I don't find it mentioned in the article or on AGD's site or did I just miss it?

AGD’s site has a listing for Jennifer Clover:

Jennifer Clover (Alan Jardine - Dvoskin - Mary Ann Jardine) - May/June 1994

Middle of Nowhere, Waves of Love and Jenny Clover are available on Larry's Soundcloud page:

https://soundcloud.com/user-418742223

Does anyone know how to download something from soundcloud?

Does anyone know why he isn't ending the show with Love and Mercy anymore?

It is odd that Mike's own website has a discography page, but does not have Summer In Paradise listed in the Beach Boys section, and although it says it has Beach Boys and Mike solo records, there are no solo records in the list:

https://mikelove.com/discography/