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51  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Van Dyke Parks appreciation thread on: April 12, 2021, 09:01:48 PM
Absolute genius himself. Song Cycle is a masterpiece. What an incredibly talented man. I saw another poster say Song Cycle stereo or remix was being pitched but no takers. I asked for a link but no avail.
52  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: April 08, 2021, 09:01:00 PM
Speaking of unreleased surround-related material, Van Dyke Parks has revelaed on Twitter that a surround mix of his Song Cycle LP was created, but no one wants to release it.

Do you have a link? I can’t find it on Twitter.
53  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: April 05, 2021, 09:21:40 PM
Speaking of unreleased surround-related material, Van Dyke Parks has revelaed on Twitter that a surround mix of his Song Cycle LP was created, but no one wants to release it.

Oh my GOD. I’d kill for that. Where did he say that? Any way we can help? A go fund me?
54  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: is Al Jardine on Surfin USA? on: March 29, 2021, 09:14:55 PM
Definitely Dave. He talks about it in his book. He does that killer glissando toward the end of the track and says Murry was glaring at him in the control booth. The glissando was a nod to Dick Dale. I love it and listen to it every time toward the end. Nice little ‘street cred’ flair. Once ya hear it, you can’t unhear it.
55  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Most important Beach Boys members in vocal blends? on: March 22, 2021, 08:59:16 PM

While there was probably more to it like talent and personality, I never thought that Bruce was the right one to replace Brian on the road. His vocals sounded unusually tinny and weak and didn't resonate well with the others. When he sang both on tracks and live it was always easy to identify as Bruce and not an integral part of the blend. I would have liked to have seen Flo and Eddie, who's harmony was akin to the boys, join the group. They could have handled Brian's parts and after Carl passed pick up his parts as well. I think both of those guys who ended up with Zappa would have complimented the boys vocals both on record and the stage as well far better than Bruce.


I wish they would have scooped up Dean. By all accounts a swell guy and was friends with the band. I even wish they would have persuaded David Marks to come back. His song writing would have helped considering Bruce barely ever pitched songs. He was better at imitating The Beach Boys than being an actual Beach Boy. Where’s a ‘don’t run away’ when they needed it?

56  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Your Favorite Mike Leads, Bass Vocals and Songwriting Credits? on: March 21, 2021, 09:26:33 PM
Definitely all dressed up for school. Surprised no one did that. He kills the bass vocals and the tag.
57  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Ultimate Present for Brian! on: March 18, 2021, 09:18:05 PM
Cool! I hope there are A Christmas Gift for You sessions out there.
58  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike is 80 ~ Say Happy Birthday on: March 15, 2021, 09:10:34 PM
Imagine being so petty and bitter that you trash talk a guy on a message board who will never see this. Nor care. Like him or not  - he’s part of the reason we’re all here. And he will go down in history longer than any of us.

Happy birthday Mike. I don’t always agree with you, but you’ll never see this so who cares!
59  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Fred Vail and his Country Album with Brian on: March 10, 2021, 08:51:14 PM
Yeah I got 50 on it. Anyone got a line to ask the man to get a GoFundMe going?
60  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: February 27, 2021, 10:44:09 PM
Probably he was buying time, as it wasn’t complete. Only several days later, Taylor announced the abandonment of Smile to the press.


Yes it appears that Derek is flubbing... but at the same time, depending how privy he was to the Boys sessions ... he could have very well believed it was nearing the end. He could be lying to buy some time... but I see it as equally possible that either he heard enough, session wise; or he had been told by Brian himself that he was close.

You have to remember that saying it was close to completion would help Derek, too.
Going on, regardless of Derek’s input.
61  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What if the Wilsons had had a neighbor that played drums in 1961? on: February 24, 2021, 07:38:10 PM
They get him and Marks as the neighbor guys. This time when Audrey forces Dennis in, it would be as a singer. He would be freed up from drumming and could sing lead and harmony as he had done since the first album (in the studio.) The live harmony would be huge with an extra voice on each song. Sorta on a different note, isn't it strange that on most of The Beach Boys albums, Dennis doesn't drum a whole lot, but he sings lead and harmony on every album. Then on stage, he mostly drummed and didn't sing a whole lot. How I miss Dennis Wilson!!!!!

Oh, come now. “Dennis didn’t drum a lot”. He drummed more than most realize. Especially in the early days. Then after the band become more of a self contained unit.

We need a list of every confirmed song Dennis plays drums on. I think it would shock a lot of people.
62  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: February 20, 2021, 09:51:50 PM
I just don’t get why there is literally zero marketing or word of mouth. This is realistically aimed at the hardcore fans. Why be so in the dark about it? Hopefully the new entity buying the group will be better - because this is pathetic. Who cares if we are lucky/privileged enough to know the release date or track listing ‘early’. Not like anyone but US will buy it.
63  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: February 05, 2021, 09:59:02 PM
Good stuff is coming folks. Nothing is ever certain until we have the thing in our hands/ears, but as much as one can possibly ascertain, good things are coming.

Translation: “no word, hints, teasers, or marketing. But uh eventually .. the set will come out. So uh it’s coming.. good things coming. Any day now. Any day I’ll be right. It’s gonna happen. Just wait. You’ll see. Any day now.... “
64  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: January 28, 2021, 05:52:23 PM
Things have been quiet for damn near a year. And that makes you excited for details?..........
65  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys Gear on: January 19, 2021, 09:14:37 PM
Well all fenders came with flat wounds. Rounds weren’t even appearing till 66? 67? And fender didn’t immediately adopt them. So I’d imagine all the way up to pet sounds is almost entirely flat wounds. Especially on all electric fenders.
66  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: January 06, 2021, 09:11:22 PM
Well Do it Again has origins back to Hawthorne Blvd. and that itself reminds me of a song by the Frogmen .. the name escapes me... but Mike could still technically be right if he had a hand in Hawthorne Blvd - but let’s be real here.
67  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: September 28, 2020, 09:07:36 PM
I saw Mike Love at a grocery store in Los Angeles yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him about the Feel Flows set or anything.

He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”

I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.

The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.

When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.


I hope to one day have as much free time as this kid.
68  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Hal Blaine Talks About Brian Wilson on: September 19, 2020, 10:32:13 PM
Cool video. I have seen parts of it but not all. Crazy to think that Hal was so rich he had a mansion AND a yacht.
69  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: September 15, 2020, 08:56:28 PM
I’m getting tired of checking this thread.

I see both ‘fans ‘ point of view.

Yes we are ‘owed’ nothing .. but we know it exists.

And we are trying to do whatever it takes to get released.

I don’t know where all of the ‘entitled’ crap comes from.
Jeez. Some of us are really into the thought of hearing new music.

70  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Does a mashup version of Surf’s Up exist with Brian on all lead + Moog bass? on: August 29, 2020, 10:18:19 PM
I love Surf’s Up - but I like both the Surf’s Up album version and the Smile Sessions versions does different reasons.

So I’m wondering if there exist a version with all Brian on lead - and the Moog bass coming in from the Surf’s Up album on: ‘I heard the word’...

Thanks
71  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Unpopular Beach Boys opinions on: August 29, 2020, 10:11:23 PM
I’m probably in the extreme minority here:
Surfin Safari to Pet Sounds is entirely comprised of masterpieces. Every album - warts and all - is, to me, a masterpiece.
72  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: August 29, 2020, 10:07:47 PM
The clacker or castanet sound that appears in say San Miguel for example - is it one person over dubbing them? Or multiple people playing it?

Was there some mind of delay effect applied? Or did the player slightly delay the second play thru?
73  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Beach Boys trying to sack Bruce around Sunflower on: August 09, 2020, 09:23:10 AM
Ah yeah, I remember that in Mike's book. Going based of the rumors, Brian wasn't that involved in the studio with the other boys. Usually just some studio cats and a maybe 1 or 2 of the boys, right?

If Bruce admired Brian that much and Brian wasn't playing with the guys in the studio then that 'no Wilson's allowed' sign must have been almost solely directed at Dennis and Carl. Was Carl's drug use really THAT bad during that time? I know him and Jack would indulge in cocaine but I can't see that being that big of a derailment. I'm sure Dennis was smoking weed and dabbling in cocaine as well, but he was the most prolific out of any of them. I understand being against drugs but Dennis was cranking out some good tunes. Arguably the best out of the whole band at the time.

What did Bruce think would happen when he restricted 3 family members and founders of a band he was the newest to join? In the main man's house, no less.
74  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / The Beach Boys trying to sack Bruce around Sunflower on: August 08, 2020, 09:55:04 PM
I was reading about Sunflower on Wikipedia - obviously not a legitimate source - and there was a quote that said:

In August, Carl, Dennis, Mike Love, and Jardine sought a permanent replacement for Johnston. They approached Carl's brother-in-law Billy Hinsche, who declined the offer to focus on his college studies.

I had never heard this before. Is this true? Did Bruce know at the time? What was the reasoning? Strange they wanted to boot him but ended up taking two of his songs for the album. And featuring him vocally on other songs on the album.
75  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 'All I Wanna Do' Mystery Lyrics on: July 23, 2020, 09:27:45 PM
Does Dennis participate in this song in any way?
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