The version of Barbara Ann here is freaking awesome...sounds like something from the White Album

Yeah! My first thought was, "they could have had ANOTHER hit with this!"

I was thinking "no way can this be 1967...someone spliced something in from 1977" the first two times I heard it

The prototype for Love You was in 1967!

Yeah pretty much

Funny how AGD's every "theory: about the BBs has been proven wrong with these releases....

You gotta explain this one to me...

Just BW not running the band after SMiLE and Carl being in charge. Plus the Hawaiian shows being total disasters instead of merely being a bit off....

Just a little thing called having ears can tell you that Brian was in charge till Friends.  I was suprised it was a revelation to anyone.

[martial]

There was an (inexplicably) contentious discussion about Bruce's martial status in a thread from a few years ago that, as of 2014 anyway, answered the most basic questions:

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,18486.0.html

Bruce's martial status....

Bruce Lee?

Anyone up for taking the a cappella "Here Comes The Night" and re-discoing it?  

Disco Sucks

If we believe the interviews from when this was released, and I have no reason not too, then this album was all Brian's idea.

He wanted to cut a christmas album, he went into the studio and did just that. This is a fully motivated Wilson. Arrangement-wise, it is the closest we're going to get to the classic BW sound.

It is the closest we're going to get to Brian just doing what he does, the old way,  with no interference. And it shows.

Is this only going to be on iTunes?

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'In The Parking Lot' in latin

'Cuckoo Clock' in binary

The Beach Boys Love You is a train wreck. And we can't look away. 

You'll have a very Lonely Summer........IN HOSPITAL!!

 

[Pet Sounds]

Now that you mentioned, some tracks can be seen as modular. Johnny Carson, Airplane... However, for me it's always been adult version of Pet Sounds. Adult yet child, whereas PS was between those two, young adult.

Agreed. I’ve seen Pet Sounds as the start of a series of albums about Brian’s life:

Pet Sounds - young love
Friends - young adult, has children, starts real life
Love You - 10 years into parenthood but nostalgic about the past
No Pier Pressure - old man, trying to recapture youth with young artists, ends it with a “last song”

I feel like these are 4 of Brian’s most personal albums. Most other albums he did were for something else other than himself, but these four feel like Brian opens up his inner most thoughts, no matter how ridiculous, and shares them with the world.

I'd take it back to All Summer Long. Chuck Today in too.

December 8, not August 12...

And Gabo falls in the sar-chasm

We're and when will it be released?  Can't wait...   

12/8, according to the posts above.

F*ck man!  That's nearly mid August in the UK. I can't wait that long.

No incredulous crying here, just mild disbelief at the lack of objectivity. Different schools of thought, though.

How can it be objective?

Define 'better'

Were the Beatles better instrumentalists than the Beach Boys? To answer that objectively you'd first need to define a sytem of judging rock playing in a way that eveyone hearing it agrees on. It would need to be a consistent, cross-genre scale of judging. Would it be purely technical? A big problem would be that rock is generally not written down, so there would be no score to consult. At least in a classical performance you could judge a players expressive capabilities by seeing how they interpret a score.  How is that possible with rock? You have no frame of reference.

Conversely with harmony, unless you are familiar with  different styles of harmony, for example, close part jazz harmony and doo wop, and unless you can judge which of those is better in a way that everyone accepts, then how can you possibly say which band is better at harmonizing.

You can use as many technical terms as you want, ultimately it's subjective. 

I think Baroque music is better than Hip Hop. I could give 100 reasons why. Why am I right and some kid in New York wrong? Unless we have a frame of reference we can agree on, it is subjective.

Sorry to give you aestetics 101, I'm sure you know all this already. And I would defend your right to love the Beatles to the death.

What I don't like though, is having my opinion met with any sort of shock or disbelief.

Or judgement.

It's snobbery of the worst kind.

Rant over, you know I love you guys.......

And just for the record, I'm not equating Noel Gallagher with Richard Wagner lest anyone try to play that card.

Good, I love Wagner!

He is a tricky one though. Best not to view him through a modern lens.

It can never be more than subjective. For some of us, the Beatles do nothing for us, despite repeated listens. Nothing to be shocked about.

I do find this disbelief common with Beatles fans though, no offense to you there GF.

This incredulous cry of "How can you not like the Beatles???"

It only serves to reinforce my opinion.

It's impossible to have enough Smiley Smile. A unique and genre defining work of phonography.

A recording of them arguing during a press interview was pressed as a CD release and actually charted in the UK when Oasis was massively popular. It was called "Wibbling Rivalry".

If they'd killed each other during the argument,  I'd have purchased it.

Worn out several copies I'd imagine.

Music

Beat me to it, O'Driscoll.

I was under the impression from interviews .. Our Prayer was the opening track on Smile and it went into H+V .. cantina version..

Musically, Our Prayer would have worked great as an intro if GV had been the first track. You're Welcome works as an intro to H&V . It was only 2004 that we got Prayer into H&V. I love BWPS, but that beginning is very clunky. Imagine how much cooler You're Welcome woukd have been, if they'd all walked onstage singing it like the boxed set outtake!

You're Welcome - intro to the album.

I have despised Gallagher and Oasis since I first heard them twenty + years ago.  I don't think their music is good; it sounds awful to me and literally pains my ears and brain.  His voice...just urgh.  Awful.  And obviously he's the biggest ass in the history of asses. 

However, I get the feeling that the comment in this article was just him being stupid and not necessarily meaning it.  Bottom line, he's a complete jackass so this comment is consistent with past behaviour. 

I read an interview with him in the early 90s before they broke big where he slagged off the Beach Boys. Hated him ever since. Never got the fuss. Their music is boring and derivative. My 11 year old could write a better song in 5 minutes than anything that talentless little spunk-bubble has even imagined. No exaggeration.

Words cannot express how much I hate this man.

No more than half a dozen decent tunes in his catalogue

He is a plageurist pure and simple. He hasn't written an original melody in his whole career.  He won't even realise he is doing it because he is a talentless little wankstain who should be boiled alive in his own excrement.

I'm not a violent man, but I've long had a fantasy of repeatedly stamping on Noel Gallaghers head with a pair of steel toe capped Doc Martins on.

He's a talentless little sh*t weasel who should be hung, drawn and quartered for crimes against music.

Can you get Advent calendars that only go up to the 8th?

Durrie acetates.

I love the Beach Boys as much for I Get Around as I do for Good Vibrations.

If not more.

And honestly, I'd much rather have Surfer Girl and Shut Down Vol II than CATP and Holland. By a country f*cking mile.

Unthinkable.  If they'd never met, Smile would never have happened. Musical history would have been changed. Just think, Sgt Pepper would have been considered the defining album of all time. Inconceivable.