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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set
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on: August 16, 2021, 03:12:14 PM
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Dennis was so productive during these years yet he's hardly present on Surf's Up and Holland. It's nothing short of a real shame  He had two songs on Holland, just like Brian and Alan, while everyone else had only one song on that album, so I don't feel like his work was underreprsented here. "Only with You" is a Dennis song that really works for me, much more subtle than something like "Make It Good". I think Holland seems like there is no Dennis since he does not sing the leads on his songs. I really like all of Holland; I'm trying to pick out Dennis voice on that album. Is he doing backup vocals on Steamboat and Only With You? I actually can't tell. Dennis is the bass vocal on steamboat and he sings the second half of the song the but I think he’s doubled by Carl for that.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set
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on: June 07, 2021, 08:26:47 AM
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As far as "Won't You Tell Me" goes, I assumed that it was a collaboration between Murry Wilson and Rick Henn. But then comes the Rolling Stone article and you have Brian saying what he said. Anybody know what's up on either of these or will we just have to wait for the set and scour the credits?
discussed it a little a page or 2 back. a couple of us are glad Brian is now claiming credit for it, while a couple others seem sure that Murry wrote it and Brian is misremembering. appears that it's being credited to both Brian and Murry in the liner notes. I've been revisiting the song (which i love) since the announcement. the chords, harmonies, melody, lyrics, not to mention Brian's sheer investment in singing the thing, all point to him indeed having written it. and now we have Brian saying he wrote it entirely. doesn't seem like a thing he'd forget or falsely take credit for. at any rate, I'm ecstatic we're getting 2 separate versions of this gem of a song. I dunno... To me the whole vibe of the song just doesn't say Brian at all. The tempo and feel, the uneven numbering of bars, the slightly clunky chord changes. Plus more than anything else, the melody and lyrics just don't feel Brian-esque at all to me - the melody is too on the nose & doesn't feel complete/organic in the way it flows and resolves. The lyric is weird too - quite over-elaborated in its subject matter and trying too hard to tell a story, whereas Brian tended to keep his lyrics quite basic. It's also quite a conservative lyric which is another thing that leads me to think Murry - would Brian in '70 really have written a song about pleading a girl to tell him if she's a virgin? Really if we compare to Brian's other songs from the time, it makes little sense. He was well into the lighthearted, slice of life sort of bag at that point. Won't You Tell Me just has such a sense of grandiosity and taking itself 100% seriously which doesn't match Brian's style at the time. Even Brian's 'serious' songs of he time like Our Sweet Love orTil I Die are much more subtle and idiosyncratic. To me, Won't You Tell Me as a complete package definitely has the slightly awkward, adult contemporary tinged vibe of Murry attempting to write a Brian style song. Still, I guess we'll never know for sure. But I can entirely believe that Brian would be misremembering here. The man has written hundreds of songs - it's not unreasonable to suppose that the details of a song which was scrapped five decades ago are a bit hazy to him now. Granted at the same time Soulful Old Man Sunshine doesn’t have as much of a Brian sound but he’s still a co writer and the demo is definitely him. I know that doesn’t necessarily mean anything but still
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: It’s OK
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on: December 14, 2020, 04:37:41 AM
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This may steer the topic slightly, but in regards to what Carl did to Love You is the “alternate versions” of tracks like the night was so young and let’s put our hearts together Brian’s original productions pre Carl or are they just different mixes?
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Beach Boy Demos
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on: November 10, 2020, 07:47:10 PM
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I was just thinking about this today, how many known beach boys demo are their available to the public (whether through legitimate means or otherwise lol).
Off the top of my head I can think of a few, Don’t Talk Surfin Be With Me Mona Kani I Can Hear Music Surf’s Up Heroes and Villains (although this is a radio broadcast wasn’t it?) Soulful Ol Man Sunshine California Feelin’
I just think it would be cool to compile a list in chronological order. What are some that I’m missing?
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