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76  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Groups / Artists You're Ashamed to Have Like on: February 23, 2016, 11:57:03 PM
On most of them - Abba, Wham!, The Beach Boys, Alice in Chains, Camper van Beethoven, 10000 Maniacs, The Beastie Boys, The Spice Girls, The Carpenters, Michael Jackson, The Monkees, even The Sex Pistols and a song by Andy Gibb... - I've gone full circle and come around to appreciate again what I loved about them, or in some cases to appreciate something different about them, after a period of falling victim to peer-influenced or self-imposed shame.
One nice thing I noticed around when I hit 40 - embarrassment is a thing of the past - I'm over it.
Oh! And Crystal Gayle  Smiley

Definitely!  I think the older you get the more you realize if it makes you happy.... it can't be that bad.  (nod to Sheryl Crow, another guilty pleasure)
77  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Groups / Artists You're Ashamed to Have Like on: February 23, 2016, 11:56:04 PM
I think I'm different from most people in that I'm unashamed of anybody I was ever a big fan of.  If I was into their music, you can bet your ass I'm still into their music.  The closest I can think of would be Garth Brooks, I don't really like Garth anymore but much of his music was really good and I'm not ashamed of it. 

I'm still a fan of Michael Jackson, the Fat boys, The Bangles, The Cranberries, Oasis, Nirvana, etc. any band I ever really enjoyed.  I'm a loyal fan Smiley
78  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Willie Nelson sings Gershwin on: February 23, 2016, 11:52:42 PM
Very good.  It's like Stardust part 2...
79  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Willie Nelson sings Gershwin on: February 21, 2016, 08:30:29 PM
This will be a great album.  Stardust is one of the best albums of the past 50 years and he's better now than he was then...
80  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: album artwork on: February 21, 2016, 12:23:04 PM


This is another fantastic one, not necessarily because it's really coherent or anything but because it kind of sums up Michael's life at the time.  HUGE fan, but he always left me thinking "I wish he wouldn't do that".  When the end of your song has a key change, then another key change, then another key change because you added in a second choir... maybe you're doing too much.

Same thing with this album cover, it's legendary and very strange, lots of little stuff going on, but like his music around the time ultimately it doesn't quite get to the great level it could have because there's just too much going on.  Needed an editor. 
81  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: album artwork on: February 21, 2016, 12:14:52 PM
LOL


Here's another fantastic one to break the theme, and I'm sure everybody's seen it but again it's a GREAT album cover.



They went out to the dump, piled a bunch of tires on top of each other and set them on fire, then put the big wooden Satan up above it and almost got burnt up themselves trying to take the photo.  It perfectly captures Ira Louvin's song writing at the time, too, and

(i'm a Christian, so I can say this) the picture also sums up the whole "Raising hell on Saturday Night praying for forgiveness on Sunday Morning" Baptist thing that they grew up in and represented. 
82  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: album artwork on: February 21, 2016, 12:01:26 PM
I have no idea why, because honestly I've never even heard the whole album, but this has always been one of my favorites:



That's just a great album cover.


Here's another fantastic one, this is Diana Ross's first album.  I like it because although she looks almost like a little kid on it, it completely stands in stark contrast to her image even at the time of being the biggest Diva that ever lived.  It's a fantastic photograph that shows her in a different light than people expect to see her.  Honestly it shows her as the little kid that pulled herself straight out of the high-rise projects in Detroit to be one of the most famous women in the world.  



No thread about Album Covers would be complete without one of Herb Alpert's fantastic ones:



Doesn't really need any explanation.  

And also one of my all-time favorites



To be honest one of the reasons I like it is because Michelle Phillips is one of the most beautiful women that ever lived, but the whole vibe of the cover, even the album name perfectly captures what the Mama's and Papa's music was all about at the time.  I could look at it all day, fantastic cover.  

Two other interesting things:

1. notice how they cover up the open toilet, a big no-no in film and photography back then, and

2. notice the look on John's face (foreground), and Denny's face (background), and then realize that although John was married to Michelle, Denny was having an affair with her. 

83  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Keith Urban's Favorite Love Song on: February 20, 2016, 12:32:29 AM
Baby I love your Way is a great song in my humble (i'm oh, so humble) opinion.  I don't see why people wouldn't like it, the melody is fan-tastic.  Mozart level melody line in my opinion.  If it was originally written as a piano piece or for a string quartet it would be legendary.  That's how I judge a lot of music, how does it sound instrumentally with that vocal melody?

I agree with bb4ever, the impact a band like the Beach Boys has had on the world cannot be understood by your average human being, I don't think Brian in particular will ever understand just how much he's touched the world with his wonderful music.  How many people have been married to "God only Knows", or how many times have you sat around, heard that, and a smile came over your face?  How many people around the world have done that?  Millions?  Tens of Millions?  HUNDREDS of Millions?  It's incomprehensible.  If there's a heaven, I hope one day Brian makes it there and the veil is lifted allowing him to see exactly all the little ways he touched the world with something as inconsequential as a beautiful song he wrote. 



84  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Awesome New Mike Love Article!! on: February 14, 2016, 02:48:49 PM
The issue here for me is this: Mike is great. Awesome singer and frontman and great songwriting partner to Brian. I am 39 years old, I've lived long enough to have suffered betrayal, cheating, went to through the difficulties of life just like anybody. Now, grudges are part of life. Mike is entitled to his. Why shouldn't he hold grudges? Who on this board has co-written a smash hit song and not been credited for it. How about 4 or 5 massive hit songs? We assume these guys are just pawns in our pre-conceived or learned view of this group. But they are suffering individuals. Heck, Dennis held a grudge through the late 1970s since he learned that Brian had to be convinced by their mother to include him in the group.

I think ultimately too you can't underestimate the fact that Mike sees addiction as a weakness that can just be willed out of your life.  He also sees mental illness this way.  He's completely wrong.... but that's how he sees life. 

To him, Brian never being able to get back to "old-school Brian" has never made any sense.  After all, Mike thinks he personally is everything he ever was.  Hey, want to hear my new song?  Did you know I still write?  Don't I look thin just like before?  I've worn these hats for 50 years!  etc. etc.

So ultimately what you have is Brian is a fraction of what he once was in Mike's eyes, and Mike can't figure out why Brian doesn't just act normal, so he comes up with 15 different explanations and 15 different things to be pissed off about when it comes to Brian.

Most of us wouldn't hold grudges for 50 years; no matter how bad the slight was.  First off, Mike is the type that can hold a grudge forever, and second, Brian's illness prohibits him from ever fully accepting repsonsibility for what Mike feels Brian did.  Mike seems incapable of realizing that Mike is completely sane but also can't accept responsibility for the things he's done to Brian. 

It'll never be resolved, but hopefully they can each bite their lip long enough to work together for the fans.  Like you alluded to, though, most normal humans (you, I) don't hold grudges for 50 years because we're able to eradicate those we hold grudges against from our lives.  Brian and Mike are forever joined at the hip, even more than families often are because they're famous and most of the world views them as cousins. 

85  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Awesome New Mike Love Article!! on: February 14, 2016, 02:39:04 PM
Thank you for posting this.  I love Mike, always have, always will.


He's dead right about some things, dead wrong about other things, that's just who he is.  I can't hate him for it, just like I can't hate Brian for being dead wrong about a lot too.  Just wish the two of them would put down the battle axes and get back together.




Could you help us understand the battle axe Brian needs to put down?  I think most here have a hard time seeing where Brian is still fighting.  And as it seems he isn't still fighting Mike, one must ask what motivation he has to get back together with someone who continues to be aggressive toward him?

EoL

Oh please.  Open your eyes.  I'm not going to break out the crayons and construction paper for you. 
86  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Awesome New Mike Love Article!! on: February 14, 2016, 02:15:00 PM
Somewhere on the net there's a blow by blow of the court case from someone who sat in the gallery.  Essentially Brian has always acknowledged that to the best of his memory Mike's correct about his assessments, or Brian just doesn't remember that particular song.   He even basically admitted to it on the stand several times.  Mike also was on record in court as saying he didnt' want to sue Brian and wanted to settle for a token amount (and having the name added) but that Brian's handlers wanted to take it to court.  Brian basically never personally contested it.   
87  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Finally! Chicago's getting in the RRHoF 2016! on: February 14, 2016, 02:10:18 PM
Sad to hear this, was hoping they could do it. 

If I were Cetera and I had to sing 3 (THREE?) keys low to hit the notes, I'd just play the bass on stage and let somebody else sing it.  Or do a different song.  Or just play it with no vocals in the original key, it's kind of a big jam song anyways. 



What it comes down to though is we have no clue what the hell is going on between the band, Peter, and the Hall of Fame so who knows. 
88  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Awesome New Mike Love Article!! on: February 14, 2016, 01:56:47 PM
Thank you for posting this.  I love Mike, always have, always will.


He's dead right about some things, dead wrong about other things, that's just who he is.  I can't hate him for it, just like I can't hate Brian for being dead wrong about a lot too.  Just wish the two of them would put down the battle axes and get back together.


89  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Cool Article on Where Within the San Diego Zoo the Pet Sounds cover was taken on: February 09, 2016, 12:13:14 AM
Thanks for this link... I love this kind of stuff.  I'm not going to browse around the rest of his site right now because I'd be up all night!  


Honestly it's one of my favorite things, it's a little weird and hard to explain but something about looking at a location, and knowing what used to be there years ago (and what's gone now, or little pieces that are still left) is just  FASCINATING to me.  

I worked at a grocery store when I was a teenager, they closed and turned it into a couple other things... well about two weeks ago, Wal Mart reopened the property as one of their grocery stores.  I've been in there probably 5 times, just looking at the ceiling, and the floor, etc. trying to remember where everything was layed out when it was the old Grocery Store I worked at years ago.  There's only two things in the entire building that line up with how it once was, that's how obsessive this stuff gets to me.  Not that I care, just that it's fascinating to see what's changed... but there's always a few things that haven't changed. 


Little things, like that picture at the bottom of the page of Dennis standing on that grate... and then if you look, the same kind of grate is still there but nearly everything else has changed.  Look close at the concrete behind the grate though, it's the same too there's a weird angle on the expansion joint in the concrete that lines up.  


Interestingly, the Surfer Girl one doesn't mean much to me because it's a cliff which is natural.  For whatever reason, I only trip out when it's something man-made that survives the years...
90  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Cover songs better than their original on: February 05, 2016, 09:33:32 AM
Ima REALLLLLLLY go Sacrilegious on this one.  I doubt 10% would agree... but I've grown to appreciate Tiffany's "I Think We're Alone Now" over the original by the incredible Tommy James & the Shondells. 

Of course the original is a great song and well produced, well written... great guitar work as always... but when Tiffany redid it, it finally got the 1 thing it was missing, the youthful sound of young love that the song is written about.  She's not even a very good singer... but she was a young girl and it feels more right than the original. 

Tommy James & the Shondells - I think we're alone now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkMFLUXTEwM

Tiffany - I think we're alone now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6Q3mHyzn78
91  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Jay and The Americans on: February 01, 2016, 08:46:15 PM
My dad was a big fan, when I was a kid when they'd come on the radio he'd always talk about how great Jay was when he sang... however, he used to tell me that he had passed away.


So, my father passed away in 2001, a few months later, I was watching one of the PBS shows and here comes Jay Black on stage, and of course with that voice obviously he's the original guy from all the songs my dad loved.  Later on, I found out that show was recorded the day after my father passed away!

So I guess Jay won that one, lol...   

Fantastic singer in my opinion.  My favorite is their version of This Magic Moment, man that's just such a special song. 
92  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What if.... on: January 31, 2016, 01:10:07 AM
Just my opinion, I don't think Brian tours to pay the bills.  I don't think his tours make any money.  He's not moving huge numbers of tickets, and he has a very large band he tours with... They're probably not operating in the red but I doubt he's getting rich off of touring. 

I think he tours because he enjoys it (some nights) and because it's therapeutic for his illness.  I know people think he wants to just lay in bed still, but Brian is very serious about his mental health; look how long he's been sober, that takes a lot of work and commitment.  The way he tours is evidence of that same commitment to living a reasonably structured life that keeps him positive and productive. 

Melinda encourages that, and is a huge part of it, but Brian would do it on his own even if she didn't prod him. 

Personally I think he's worked very hard to make himself a better person for over 20 years now and it's very inspiring.

93  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: New Hank Williams biopic - I Saw The Light on: January 31, 2016, 01:00:54 AM
Holly Williams stole the show at the Grand Ol Opry tonight, fantastic performance of "Waiting on June" and also "On the Highway". 

94  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Can Music Be / What Makes Music Sad? on: January 24, 2016, 12:25:16 PM
What makes music sad is the minor key it's written in. 
95  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Was there any evidence \ on: January 22, 2016, 11:17:23 AM
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I wish I could find it, but years ago Brian had a Q&A on his webpage, and I asked him what was Earth, Fire, Water, and Air, and he answered it, but it was just a kind of off the top of his head B.S. answer.  It was still really cool for him to stipulate something, though... there's probably a copy of it here on the forum somewhere because I mentioned it before, but he basically mentioned 1 song for each element and I can't remember which was which but one didn't even make any sense.  i'm sure he was just saying whatever, but it was still fascinating to me...

I can't find the source, but I'm sure this can be found on this board somewhere, anyway it was:
MOCW - Fire
Prayer - Air
HV - Earth
Surf's up - Water!
This is very good..each song really represents one elemnent! Will try that in a mix!
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Thank you, I  tried to find it the other day and couldn't track it down.  That's really interesting, huh?  Of course I immediately think that's just Brian running something off the top of his head, but.... what if it isn't? 
96  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Greatest American Rock Band of All Time? on: January 22, 2016, 11:12:00 AM
I'll say Nirvana as a band that were extremely influential.  But, personally, I think they changed rock for the worse. 

I would agree with that, and I'm a big Nirvana fan from way back.  This prob. isn't the best thread to talk about it, but what the hell.  Here's how I see it, I've seen it with other bands in other genres, too.

Basically, Kurt was great, Nirvana were great, I love their music and liked what they did.  However, the end result of what they did, like you said, was they made Rock different, which made other bands after them change their sound for the worse.  You wouldnt' have even had a steaming pile of a band like Creed if it weren't for Kurt Cobain openly whining in his music before Creed got here and took it to the next, horrible, level.  From time to time you get guys like Kurt Cobain who are extremely talented, and make it look easy... which opens the door for people to come along with no talent, and attempt to do it easily.  Without the talent the music is just god-awful.






Taylor Swift is a good example.  Taylor Swift makes it look easy and if you don't pay attention, you might think she's a no-talent hack.  She's not, though... she's extremely talented, and because her songwriting is so strong and she understand what she's doing, it doesn't matter that she doesn't have the greatest voice in the world.  It's nothing more than average.  Unfortunately what this does is make every kid who can't sing think that they're just as talented. 



In Country Music, it was Big & Rich.  Here's a couple guys who are incredibly talented, and they walked the line and basically created this "Bro Country" crap that's just god awful.  THEIR music that's "Bro Country" is tolerable and kind of interesting, the essentially tribute bands that they 'inspired' though are pretty much all no-talent hacks and now we're stuck with that in Country.   
97  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Greatest American Rock Band of All Time? on: January 21, 2016, 10:48:38 PM
I have yet to meet someone on the earth that doesn't like the Beach Boys, so I'm not sure how they're not walking away with it.  How soon we forget, I suppose...

If more people understood that modern music is recorded the way it is, because of Good Vibrations, maybe they'd come around...

I think we're just so far removed from the 60's though, there's less and less people who saw them in their prime and can vouch for how big they were. 

The eagles are great, but they never did anything groundbreaking, they just made good music.  The Ramones, in my personal opinion, were groundbreaking but didn't make good music (LOL)

It's all subjective but for me it comes down to the Beach Boys, and the Doors.  The Beatles and the Stones are #1, and #2, Beach Boys #3 if we're trying to rank them.












Fortunately, though, we get to listen to all of them and this whole thing is nonsense.
98  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Was there any evidence \ on: January 20, 2016, 11:51:07 PM
- Fire was Mrs. O' Leary's Fire (duh)

- Water (in 1966, at least) was water sounds that the Vosse Posse recorded on their Nagra reels

- Earth (pre-December 1966) was Vega-Tables. This is due to the revealing Van Dyke Parks quotations, and Frank Holmes drawings.

- Air was a piano cut(?)

I think many have raised the issue about a similiar Wind Chimes piano cut that was never fully realised by Brian. If so, could this be the mythical Air piece everyone is searching for? I don't think so at all.... Couldn't it have been much easier for Brian (and all of us) to say that "Wind Chimes" was "Air" in 1978 and get it over with? Why the vague "piano cut" description? But then again, maybe in August 1966, Brian and Van Dyke dreamed of a SMiLE with Wind Chimes fulfilling the "Air" piece, but moved on from that idea due to it's single potential.... Similarly with Veggies. Who knows? 

I wish I could find it, but years ago Brian had a Q&A on his webpage, and I asked him what was Earth, Fire, Water, and Air, and he answered it, but it was just a kind of off the top of his head B.S. answer.  It was still really cool for him to stipulate something, though... there's probably a copy of it here on the forum somewhere because I mentioned it before, but he basically mentioned 1 song for each element and I can't remember which was which but one didn't even make any sense.  i'm sure he was just saying whatever, but it was still fascinating to me...
99  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Don Henley/Mike Love on: January 18, 2016, 12:19:34 AM
I'd say Henley was more talented, Mike has been on cruise control for about 40 years now.  Mike's still got it, though, and Henley's lost a step in my opinion. 

My favorite thing Henley ever did was Boys of Summer, Ironically. 

100  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New Mike Interview - 1/14/16 - San Jose Mercury News on: January 15, 2016, 01:11:58 AM
Love Mike Love!  Keep on Cruisin', Mike!
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