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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Happy Birthday Mr. Desper on: April 30, 2022, 11:04:10 AM
I believe this is the big 8-0 for you, and many more from a big fan! 
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: swdstudyvideos.com (suspended) on: November 07, 2018, 11:21:07 AM
I'm generally pretty shocked and offended by the celebrity-worshipping, anti-facts tone of much of this thread. When the claims of a participant contradict things that are established, proven, on the record, it is our responsibility as music historians to ask why. That is all.

Where, "on the record" of Brother Records, Warner Records, or Epic Records releases does it say who is singing lead on "Sail On Sailor"? The LP of 1993 and the CD of 1985, plus the single 45 and demo promos on 45's only says it's the Beach Boys singing.

On the "Holland" LP jacket and the CD booklet and all insert notes only say that Blondie is the author and co-writer of "Leaving This Town." Nowhere can I find Blondie connected with SOS. You would think that if someone other than an established Beach boy is singing on a new song, the record company would tell you on the jacket or years later on the CD booklet.

Many years ago I bought the "Holland" LP. Since no credits are given, I always thought Carl sang the SOS lead. It sounds like him and not Michael, Al, Bruce Dennis or Brian. Up until these posts started I never considered Blondie could be the singer. But where is the proof? the "established, proven, on the record" proof? All I can find out about Blondie is on the internet -- that's not proof.

So will you or someone tell me where the record company says, on any official release of SOS, that Blondie is the singer of that song?  or Carl.
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Happy Birthday Mr. Desper on: April 30, 2018, 09:52:22 AM
If I remember from other posts, today is your birthday. I know you and Brian were born within month's of each other. I remember reading from past posts that yours is the end of April. So, Happy Birthday to you. Thanks for all you post here and the study videos, so full of information. I don't think the Beach Boys of the seventies would have been the same without you there. Happy Dance
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / Ask The Honored Guests / Re: The Stephen Desper Thread on: August 19, 2017, 05:44:18 PM
When is your book being released?
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Mike Gallagher likes The Beach Boys on: August 18, 2017, 09:37:59 AM
Mike Gallagher is a conservative radio talk show host (http://www.mikeonline.com/) heard by millions of listeners each morning on AM radio. Given all the hate talk on the airways today -- stuff he puts up with -- on his show today he was elated to have attended a Beach Boy show last night -- even posting a photo on his webpage.  He spoke today in glowing terms about the show and how free from all the strife in the news of the day. How the audience was totally having fun and how it made him feel so happy to be there with all the fans. Evidently he does not go to many "rock" shows. What a great show to see if your time is limited. 
6  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Singing Beach Boy songs will get you ARRESTED on: December 22, 2016, 06:07:50 PM
California Girls is addressed in the university's letter:

http://interactives.courier-journal.com/graphics/Ryan%20letter%20redacted.pdf

The school includes his singing a version of the song as part of its case against him. It is understandable that the professor wants to focus on a facet of the university's case which some of us find ridiculous. (If this board gives any indication, it appears that many do not.)

What disturbs me a bit is that I've seen this sort of outcome before in academia. Someone is charged with misconduct sufficient for dismissal, but the accused party is neither terminated nor exonerated.


So let me get this straight.  This professor sings a song (in this case he choose California Girls but could have been any song) and changes one word, "California"  to compliment the females of a certain Chinese City -- and for this he looses his retirement and travel privileges?  This is not the America I grew up in.

And Emily, Trump is called President-Elect because he was elected under our system of election laws. He is not president-appointed Trump.
I dare say that if any other country had a few hundred people select a president for a population of a few hundred million, we wouldn't call it an election.
And the "one word" thing was not specified.
The few hundred people, or The Electrorial Collage, is part of the Representative Republic form of government in the USA. We have been electing leaders like this for several hundred years. If you don't agree with this part of the US Constitution, there are methods in place to change the law, but otherwise you should learn why we have the Electroial interface and not a direct popular election.
The word that was changed was California, according to what I read. The articles did not say "one word" but only made reference to a word change. Maybe there were other words changed, but only the one word - california - was noted. 
Really? Gee. I AM going to have to learn all about this electorial collage thing. I never knew. Thanks for edumacatin me!
Seems like in representative republics, the representatives would, by definition, have to be selected by the people they represent, not a few hundred other people. Whoops! Looks like we're not a representative republic after all! Silly us.

For someone so gosh dang smart, you sure don't read good:
"During the closing ceremony, Ryan says, he sang his own version of 'California Girls' to portray 'the many differences in Chinese and American culture.' One of the lines, for example, was, 'Well Shanghai girls..."
F.Y.I.
https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/about.html
https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/electors.html
http://www.history.com/topics/electoral-college
7  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Singing Beach Boy songs will get you ARRESTED on: December 22, 2016, 06:37:30 AM
California Girls is addressed in the university's letter:

http://interactives.courier-journal.com/graphics/Ryan%20letter%20redacted.pdf

The school includes his singing a version of the song as part of its case against him. It is understandable that the professor wants to focus on a facet of the university's case which some of us find ridiculous. (If this board gives any indication, it appears that many do not.)

What disturbs me a bit is that I've seen this sort of outcome before in academia. Someone is charged with misconduct sufficient for dismissal, but the accused party is neither terminated nor exonerated.


So let me get this straight.  This professor sings a song (in this case he choose California Girls but could have been any song) and changes one word, "California"  to compliment the females of a certain Chinese City -- and for this he looses his retirement and travel privileges?  This is not the America I grew up in.

And Emily, Trump is called President-Elect because he was elected under our system of election laws. He is not president-appointed Trump.
I dare say that if any other country had a few hundred people select a president for a population of a few hundred million, we wouldn't call it an election.
And the "one word" thing was not specified.
The few hundred people, or The Electrorial Collage, is part of the Representative Republic form of government in the USA. We have been electing leaders like this for several hundred years. If you don't agree with this part of the US Constitution, there are methods in place to change the law, but otherwise you should learn why we have the Electroial interface and not a direct popular election.
The word that was changed was California, according to what I read. The articles did not say "one word" but only made reference to a word change. Maybe there were other words changed, but only the one word - california - was noted. 
8  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Singing Beach Boy songs will get you ARRESTED on: December 21, 2016, 02:48:19 PM
California Girls is addressed in the university's letter:

http://interactives.courier-journal.com/graphics/Ryan%20letter%20redacted.pdf

The school includes his singing a version of the song as part of its case against him. It is understandable that the professor wants to focus on a facet of the university's case which some of us find ridiculous. (If this board gives any indication, it appears that many do not.)

What disturbs me a bit is that I've seen this sort of outcome before in academia. Someone is charged with misconduct sufficient for dismissal, but the accused party is neither terminated nor exonerated.


So let me get this straight.  This professor sings a song (in this case he choose California Girls but could have been any song) and changes one word, "California"  to compliment the females of a certain Chinese City -- and for this he looses his retirement and travel privileges?  This is not the America I grew up in.

And Emily, Trump is called President-Elect because he was elected under our system of election laws. He is not president-appointed Trump.
9  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Singing Beach Boy songs will get you ARRESTED on: December 19, 2016, 11:41:15 AM
Political Correctness is out of control when the California fantasy of Beach Boy fame is called sexual misconduct and leads to the loss of award money and travel privliges for the Professor who sang Mike Love's lyrics.

https://blog.simplejustice.us/2016/12/18/he-sang-girls/

and

http://dailycaller.com/2016/12/19/public-university-punishes-professor-for-sex-crime-because-he-sang-a-beach-boys-song/

and

http://www.zipdialog.com/12/18/2016/wish-california-girls-phrases-deemed-sexual-harassment/

or google "Kentucky University, Beach Boys, California Girls" for more articles

I never thought I'd see this happen in my country. This is not the America I grew up in.
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Stephen Desper Talks Early 70s Touring. on: November 02, 2016, 06:29:22 PM
I can remember at shows in the late 70s... 77-79... the mix sounded off, or muddled, on the first two to three songs.... California Girls... Sloop John B... things would finally start to mesh around Darlin' or Little Deuce Coupe (77 tour) and Shortnin' Bread (79 tour).  These were at a mix of venues... Mississippi River Festival, Champaign-Urbana arena (indoor), SIU Arena... it sounded as if the mix was being done on the fly, without benefit of sound check.
That was how I heard it too. When Desper left with Zappa in the early 70s the sound went south. Think they used local mixers after that.
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