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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Waves of Love 3.0 Ocean Mix (He did it again!). on: September 01, 2023, 01:56:25 PM
So here it is!
“Waves of Love 3.0 (Ocean Mix)” was released today on digital platforms.
Now we have I think…5 versions of the song?

https://open.spotify.com/track/5sCVIant0TTdLIpWOD9Evl?si=hqUVOFUiReGk_m1kiEP00Q
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Johnny Depp & Jeff Beck re-recorded Dennis Wilson on: September 19, 2022, 03:09:25 PM
Johnny Depp and Jeff Beck did a beautiful version of Time in their new album:

https://open.spotify.com/track/6jB0a47qHczHonDyabz1Cc?si=vgkNpqlzSs6LaAx9u-Ehjw
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: June 03, 2021, 08:19:34 AM
There’s a 10% coupon code available in the official site: GET10OFF.

But I’m waiting for the box set to be available in the uDiscover store, because there’s a $25 OFF available coupon: SUMMER25
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: June 02, 2021, 07:48:06 PM
It’s a dream to see this finally happen!
This era deserved so much care like this.
Thanks Howie, Mark, Alan and everybody involved in this project! You did a beautiful job ❤️
And specially, thank you to The Beach Boys for doing so much beautiful music!
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: May 20, 2021, 11:36:46 AM
Assuming our info is correct - 64 days to go - that's less than 10 weeks - so an announcement can't be too far away.

It's ridiculous not to have an announcement yet

Maybe it was postponed to September.
But I still think it will be announced tomorrow or at least next week.
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: May 09, 2021, 05:02:27 PM
I hope the short versions were made for inclusion on the vinyl version.
If they shortened some tracks for the box, that would be such a loss.
But it’s better to hear these songs even in truncated versions than not to hear them at all.
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: California Music: Add Some Music on: April 26, 2021, 01:55:20 PM
I’ve got it on Spotify.

Re the sound. Keep in mind in all likelihood this was all recorded on devices, cell phones etc and mixed in house...literally ‘in house’. I wonder if a studio was used at all?

I think Rob Bonfliglio mixed at least the new version of Add Some Music To Your Day and, as reported in the last ESQ issue, the album was mastered by Mark Linett. 
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: December 28, 2020, 05:57:04 PM
Work continues on.
There's a really good communal vibe regarding the box.

FEEL FLOWS is going to be the perfect soundtrack to 2021.

Great news, Howie!
Thank you so much, and also Alan, Mark and everyone involved  Grin

I hope Dennis solo material is still in the final tracklist.
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: November 22, 2020, 12:26:37 PM
FEEL FLOWS is alive, well, and thriving.
No one will be disappointed.


Great news, Howie!
Thank you so much, and also Alan, Mark and everybody who worked to make this happen!
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: November 20, 2020, 05:08:46 AM
Any news regarding Feel Flows?
Everything was worked out/they gave green lit to release it?
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: October 28, 2020, 09:30:14 AM
Things are good. It's moving forward.

Great news!
Thanks for your hard work, Howie!
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: October 23, 2020, 07:08:26 AM
Cool!
I was losing faith to see this box set released, but now seeing these uploads (even if it’s unlisted) at least things started to happen!
Let’s hope for a release ASAP, physical or digitally.
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: October 22, 2020, 06:08:11 PM
I've given up on this set ever coming out. I think 2021 will bring us another Mike Love cd, with more b-grade celebrities singing with him. Probably another remake of Do it Again. And there's gotta be a remake of Drive-In there. Maybe he can get his friend Donald Trump to do a rap on it - I hear he's soon to be out of work. He probably plays keyboards about as well as Bruce does these days.
I don't doubt that the Brian/Al/Blondie team is working up something for the coming year as well, maybe some Zoom shows. I can imagine the reviews: "Brian Wilson phoned in his performance."  LOL LOL


Yeah, I totally agree with you 🙂
Based on the comments I know it’s Mike, and he’s a master to the embarrass the band and the brand.

Me too.
At least we have McCartney releasing a new album to bring us some joy through this difficult time, and Neil Young releasing a great archival box set with tons of unreleased material in great quality.
These guys (the band, not Howie, Alan, Mark, the team that made it and also HJ and Jon) knows how to f*ck great things themselves.
It’s a shame, but maybe that’s why bands like The Beatles are greater each year and with more acclaim/respect, and The Beach Boys are become more and more marginalized.
At least, thank you for trying to release a set with tons of beautiful music and try to improve the Beach Boy’s legacy.

Please let's not state it's "the band", when it's Mike.

Yeah, I totally agree with you 🙂
Reading the comments here it’s clear it’s Mike, and he’s the king of embarrassing the band and the brand.
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: October 22, 2020, 04:42:06 PM
I've given up on this set ever coming out. I think 2021 will bring us another Mike Love cd, with more b-grade celebrities singing with him. Probably another remake of Do it Again. And there's gotta be a remake of Drive-In there. Maybe he can get his friend Donald Trump to do a rap on it - I hear he's soon to be out of work. He probably plays keyboards about as well as Bruce does these days.
I don't doubt that the Brian/Al/Blondie team is working up something for the coming year as well, maybe some Zoom shows. I can imagine the reviews: "Brian Wilson phoned in his performance."  LOL LOL


Me too.
At least we have McCartney releasing a new album to bring us some joy through this difficult time, and Neil Young releasing a great archival box set with tons of unreleased material in great quality.
These guys (the band, not Howie, Alan, Mark, the team that made it and also HJ and Jon) knows how to f*ck great things themselves.
It’s a shame, but maybe that’s why bands like The Beatles are greater each year and with more acclaim/respect, and The Beach Boys are become more and more marginalized.
At least, thank you for trying to release a set with tons of beautiful music and try to improve the Beach Boy’s legacy.
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: October 20, 2020, 04:06:57 PM
Just my own feeling but wouldn’t leaking the track set publicly be a breach of confidentiality and possibly endanger the set further and burn bridges in the process?

I have the same feeling.
I still think the best solution is to convince these guys (especially that person who wants to remove Dennis songs from the set) to clear their minds, and try to push hard for this material to be released, even talking about more sales/more money (and that’s somebody motivation for all he does) it would generate if these songs are gonna be included.
And if it’s not enough, so maybe it’s better to cancel the damm thing and release it digitally.
Maybe it’s better than release a set without Dennis tracks only to satisfy some jealousy attitudes/wishes/demanding of this person.
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: October 20, 2020, 03:43:43 PM
We are not getting this box set.

If they’re going to remove Dennis or some other material, maybe we shouldn’t get this box.
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: October 20, 2020, 09:12:50 AM
HeyJude said...  "Nobody has said the set has been blocked due to Dennis material."

Okay, now I'm even more confused. 

So none of the other Beach Boys are fighting (against Mike, from all hints) to keep all the Dennis material on the set?  They're all okay with dumping it to get the set released?  If so, that's very sad.

And the original issue of someone (Mike again from all hints) blocking the set because they have some "legitimate" concern in the Beach Boy world -- that has nothing to do with Feel Flows set, but is being used as a pawn to get what they want -- has that been resolved?

Okay, maybe I get it -- the original "legitimate" concert hasn't been resolved, and the box is still on hold.  And now Mike doesn't want the Dennis material on it, but the reasoning behind this has nothing to do with "legitimate" concern.

But it sure appears as if the Dennis material is being used by Mike as another pawn to get what he wants.  I guess the two issues could be totally unrelated -- but it seems a mighty far stretch to get there.    Head Spin

I've tried to clarify it several times, and Jon Stebbins also pretty succinctly summed it up as well.

Here goes:

1. Band allows set to be compiled. It's completed, mixed, mastered, ready to go.

2. Internal issues having nothing to do with the set itself lead person(s) to delay/block the release of the set, claiming these internal issues dictate the set shouldn't come out yet.

3. Later on, separately, while the set coming out *at all* is still up in the air, a person(s) moves to remove virtually all of the Dennis solo material from the set. As far as I'm aware, this is simply something this person or persons wants/is demanding. They're not saying "Give me X, otherwise I'll veto this material." I suppose implicit in such a move is quite likely that they *won't* sign off on the set if the material is retained. Either way, this is all a separate brewing issue from the original scenario that delayed and appears to continue to delay the set for nearly a year at this point (give or take, depending on when you start the clock).

I was expecting for some better news about FF, but reading this makes me sad and almost losing the faith. I thought these issues were going to be worked out and the set would be released as originally intended.
It’s a shame to see the issue of removing Dennis material is still being discussed and maybe it’ll happen.
Man, maybe it’s better if they cancel the set anyway and release all of its contents as digital.
To see the project mutilated like this is infuriating.
Somebody doesn’t  want to Dennis songs to be released and gain some attention from press and fans, but it’s okay to gain some bad PR about doing the fundraiser gig.
It’s sad to be a Beach Boys fan now.
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: October 19, 2020, 10:01:26 AM
Any news about the current status of FF?
Dennis material is still an issue, there’s a chance to be released this year?
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: October 15, 2020, 05:09:50 AM
Been thinking for a few days on this (I know...I know...thinking...dangerous, man) and I can understand why someone might object to a box set that contains an entire disc of Dennis Wilson solo stuff under the heading of "The Beach Boys".
Yes, I might actually agree with Mike Love - if, indeed, that is his objection to the set.
I think a more appropriate way to present that material would be on a stand alone Dennis Wilson cd.
I'm a big Carl fan, and I wouldn't want his solo stuff from the 80's being presented as "The Beach Boys". The other Beach Boys had nothing to do with it.
But I can just imagine it now - "Best of the Beach Boys in the 80's" comes out, and along with Kokomo, Getcha Back, California Dreamin' and Rock 'N' Roll to the Rescue, it includes Heaven, Hold Me, What You Do to Me, Melt Away, Love and Mercy, Looking Back with Love, and Rockin' the Man in the Boat.
 Roll Eyes

Dennis’s solo material total is around 25 minutes. So there’s still 55 minutes to fill on disc.
And they already used solo material in their albums, even when Dennis was still alive: Love Surround Me, Baby Blue, Cuddle Up, Make It Good, to name a few. Even Mike gave solo material to the band: Sumahama, Brian’s Back, etc
“Love You” was a Brian’s solo album (he plays every instrument and sang vocals alone in some tracks) overdubbed and released by the band.
And don’t forget the compilation Ten Years Harmony, with River Song in the tracklist.
There’s songs recorded alone or in duo by some members released in the Made In California box: Sound of Free, Lady, Why They Don’t Let Us Fall In Love (by Mike and Brian), etc
Summer In Paradise is a Mike’s project with limited involvement from the other members.
Dennis’s 71 songs are important as a component to understand that timeframe, and some of these recording were later given to the band add overdubs and release them in the So Tough album.
I would be happy if they discovered whatever solo recordings by other members and then release it in this box or future archival projects.
But if....if....one of the principals is objecting to 25 minutes of solo material being on the box..and removing some of that would clear the way for set to be released, would we accept that?
I don't know why we couldn't have a standalone cd/download/album of Dennis solo stuff. Dennis seems to have a very strong cult following. POB is always being praised as a masterpiece...I would think a solo Dennis album/download/cd/whatever would be something his fans would really want.

Yeah, I think you’re right.
If Dennis material would be removed from the set to be released as a Dennis Wilson project with all the songs and bonus material, it would be cool.
I still hope to see the songs released on FF, but a standalone release it would be great.
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: October 14, 2020, 07:19:48 PM
Been thinking for a few days on this (I know...I know...thinking...dangerous, man) and I can understand why someone might object to a box set that contains an entire disc of Dennis Wilson solo stuff under the heading of "The Beach Boys".
Yes, I might actually agree with Mike Love - if, indeed, that is his objection to the set.
I think a more appropriate way to present that material would be on a stand alone Dennis Wilson cd.
I'm a big Carl fan, and I wouldn't want his solo stuff from the 80's being presented as "The Beach Boys". The other Beach Boys had nothing to do with it.
But I can just imagine it now - "Best of the Beach Boys in the 80's" comes out, and along with Kokomo, Getcha Back, California Dreamin' and Rock 'N' Roll to the Rescue, it includes Heaven, Hold Me, What You Do to Me, Melt Away, Love and Mercy, Looking Back with Love, and Rockin' the Man in the Boat.
 Roll Eyes

Dennis’s solo material total is around 25 minutes. So there’s still 55 minutes to fill on disc.
And they already used solo material in their albums, even when Dennis was still alive: Love Surround Me, Baby Blue, Cuddle Up, Make It Good, to name a few. Even Mike gave solo material to the band: Sumahama, Brian’s Back, etc
“Love You” was a Brian’s solo album (he plays every instrument and sang vocals alone in some tracks) overdubbed and released by the band.
And don’t forget the compilation Ten Years Harmony, with River Song in the tracklist.
There’s songs recorded alone or in duo by some members released in the Made In California box: Sound of Free, Lady, Why They Don’t Let Us Fall In Love (by Mike and Brian), etc
Summer In Paradise is a Mike’s project with limited involvement from the other members.
Dennis’s 71 songs are important as a component to understand that timeframe, and some of these recording were later given to the band add overdubs and release them in the So Tough album.
I would be happy if they discovered whatever solo recordings by other members and then release it in this box or future archival projects.
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: October 12, 2020, 04:21:02 PM
Since the set has not hit manufacturing, does anyone know what the drop dead date would be to actually get this manufactured for a release this year?  What is the lead time?  If at some point in the future they make the release date the last Friday of this year, when would the set have to been sent to manufacturing to be able to physically release it this year?  8 week lead time, 4 week lead time, anyone know?

A really interesting question.
Anyone know?
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: October 12, 2020, 04:15:34 PM
Thank you Hey Jude, Jon Stebbins and Howie Edelson for the clarifications and trying to set the record straight and also trying to do it without burning bridges.
At this very moment, I think all we have to do is pray for the best to come: the set to be released in its original form without any changes.
I don’t hate Mike as some guys here has said. What I hate is his insistence to keep jealous towards Dennis as a person and also as an artist. Why he doesn’t want to put these differences aside (as a person who learned to meditate, advocate for it and spoke about its peaceful nature) and let the Dennis material to be released as originally intended in this case?
To put aside some negativity in favor of the band’s legacy would be a great thing, a great accomplishment.
I think that’s what we want, and we as fans also want to hear Mike’s material on this set!
Everybody in the band has the gifts in their songwriting, and certainly we want to hear them all: everybody shining through the music 🙂
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: October 11, 2020, 01:23:06 PM
If Dennis material would be removed from this set and released next year in a Dennis solo release/or if there’s a leak it would be great.
But ban Dennis 70/71 songs to be released is a crime against his sons, his fans the the music in general.
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: October 11, 2020, 12:50:34 PM
As far as I can tell there is no evidence that Mike has a problem with Dennis material.
This would only be true if there was no "evidence" that is not widely known to the public. I doubt many here would think that's the case.

I thought it had been cleared up earlier in this thread that at least re: feel flows, this wasn't an issue.

I'm aware they had plenty of personal issues in the past but as far as that impacting Dennis Wilson material appearing in later years on comps and so on, then I'm unaware of that and would be interested to know more.

I addressed this several times in recent posts, including one on this page above.  

The issue of removing Dennis material is a more recent development separate from the initial issues with the set's delay.


OK, so, Dennis Wilson solo material had nothing to do with the initial delay however it's now unlikely to be released in whatever version of FF is released? and it's likely because of Mike Love objections?

The likely thing is you're not going to get insiders to directly say "yes" do that, but it's easy to surmise that must basically be the case, more or less, from the last several posts. It's an absolutely atrocious situation. Mike Love is a petty, jealous little man, and that's me censoring my real thoughts.

Mike Love is a jealous narcissistic man, he really is.
A jealous little man that needs to veto his cousin’s music only because he sees himself as The Beach Boys guardian.
The Wilsons and Al really had to stand themselves fighting for this music to be released and/or take the license from Mike vetoing him to use The Beach Boys name.
25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: October 10, 2020, 05:53:28 PM
All of the reasoning about Dennis' material in this time frame "not being BBs music" ignores the fact that some of it originally intended for his original solo project wound up being released on BB albums. Using that logic, a song such as "My Solution" shouldn't be included, either, since Brian eventually reworked it into "Happy Days" on IMAGINATION.

Given the complicated relationship of Dennis' material as it relates to the band, it makes a good bit more sense in 2020 to include it as part of a compilation like FEEL FLOWS in order to fully document the creative atmosphere of the band members during the 1969-71 time frame.

That's a point that should also be made publicly by anyone writing about the current situation. It makes the public disclosure of the track listing for FEEL FLOWS that much more imperative, in order to demonstrate exactly what might be vulnerable as a result of this faulty, selective reasoning.



If Dennis material would be removed from this set, really I wouldn’t mind if it will be canceled and released in digital.
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