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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: A little love for Mr. Love on: July 20, 2017, 09:11:15 PM
There's a whole lotta Mike bashing on this website. But afterall, we are all here because we love The Beach Boys, and Mike is one of the original members, and still plays The Beach Boys music to this day. Let's make a thread of the reasons why we appriciate Mike Love, even if some of us don't have very many reasons.  I'll start us off...

1. Big Sur is a beautiful song
2. His vocals on Fun, Fun, Fun
3. His endurance and ability to perform well even after 50+ years.
4. His lyrics on Warmth of the Sun

That's just to get the ball rolling, but I think there is too much Mike bashing here. I love every Beach Boy, and at the end of the day I think Mike is a pretty talented guy.

(OSD might murder me for this post!!!!)



It's a fine topic to start and there are many highlights to highlight...but Nate, why include the lines in your post in bold instead of just letting people post what they think are highlights and good things to celebrate? There's been enough attempts to paint this community and members overall who participate here as nothing but Mike Bashers, and in doing so diminish and dismiss everything about this forum. They've failed miserably so far, the board is still active and running much better since the real problems left, so it doesn't make sense to have an active member add fuel to a fire that hasn't burned here for a long time instead of just letting people talk. No need to take shots at this place or anyone here.

I'd also ask if all of the negative comments in the past week showing up many places online are all examples of "Mike Bashing", or if they're people voicing opinions on something they don't like. And I'd also add that among the people who have been tagged as the bashers (up to and including attempts to have their backgrounds checked and have them removed by interests no longer here...) are some very passionate and long-time fans who can both walk the walk and talk the talk about the band, the music, and the history. So I'd reconsider those few lines and perhaps let things roll. 

The last couple of days I have headed over the PS forum to read their take on the DIA single. I gotta say that community seems to be in some highly-strung distress over this forum. I went to four different pages there the other day (fairly random threads too) and I saw as many posts directly or indirectly mentioning this place in a negative light...funny that this place lives rent free in a lot of peoples' minds over there. Anywho, a lot of the comments were about Mike bashing here.

I'll take any of the rational discussion about Mike here over the fairytale world that goes on over there. I mean you exclude what, two posters here, and the "Mike bashing" is more what you got the past few days: discussions revolving around the history of the band, defining legacy, etc. Does it happen often? Yep, about as often as Mike does something blatantly ridiculous whether it be a tactless interview comment or a single that got primarily dreadful feedback from the fans, or a couple days later dropping a video for said single. I'm just glad we now have a forum where talking freely about band members doesn't elicit an IP address search for an interested party.

Sorry to veer the thread, Nate...but you did bring it up Grin

Well from my perspective... I realize I'm a fairly new member and expect to get basically zero response from this because I know better. But being a pretty neutral member of both boards, I have to say there is hate and love on both boards. Maybe I've just had too much whisky (which is usually the case when I type words on the internet) but I'm just gonna say it. This is a thread for Mike Love Love. So why does it have to turn into something else? There are plenty of threads that support the opposite view.

I hope this thread does go back to what the thread intended originally. But I think Guitarfool and I just wanted to clear the record about the “Mike Bashing” that goes on here. And Add Some, I totally thought of you when I wrote that Grin Hey, you and OSD have seen more sh*t come from this band than I can imagine. I remember a couple years ago when you tried to give Mike the benefit of the doubt often, I know you legitimately tried for a long while to see the good over the bad...it’s gotta be tough with this band! Anyways, cheers Beer Smiley


I will say that I didn't actually think there was a ton of Mike bashing going on, just people saying what they didn't like about DIA17. I was just disappointed to see a thread titled "A little love for Mr Love" get the yucks. I appreciate that OSD said he would not be participating, that's cool, I respect that.

In light of rab's post, I will list something that I have yet to see... posted in this thread relevant to it's point:

Mikes eventual recording of vocals that he didn't necessarily get or agree with during Pet Sounds and Smile. Some of the most wonderful vocals on record.
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: A little love for Mr. Love on: July 20, 2017, 08:52:49 PM
Okay, I just went back and read the OP of this thread. There is no Mike-bashing. That's the point. There are no swipes in this thread. Regardless of what he's said in other threads, clearly the OP post in this tread is about celebrating the the good things Mike has done for the band.

Which amount to almost sweet f*** all since [and I'm being mindful that Mike did do some stuff after 1965 which counts] 1967-70.  Come on.  Really?    There came a time when Mike Love's gawd-forsaken ego began to run the boat...into a sand bar.  It still does.  Except for the freak windfall John Phillips song we call Kokomo being augmented by TERRY MELCHER and then, subsequently, being included in the soundtrack of a somewhat popular movie indigenous to that specific moment 'HE' has s.f.a. to squawk about since California Girls.  He's done almost nothing truly important except for polishing and buffing the lyrics to Good Vibrations.  And truly...did the lyrics really make that song the major success that it was?  Or was it the vocal arrangements and group harmonies/performance with Carl singing out of the first chair which took kind of 'dorky' lyrics right smak-dab through the up-rights?  Carl saved Kokomo for that matter.

No.  Come on.  Let's not light a candle for a dick-head.  It's a waste of fucking wax.

Fine... all of that, valid. Not saying I disagree. But does it have to be all hate all the time? There's nothing good to be said?
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: A little love for Mr. Love on: July 20, 2017, 08:48:16 PM
There's a whole lotta Mike bashing on this website. But afterall, we are all here because we love The Beach Boys, and Mike is one of the original members, and still plays The Beach Boys music to this day. Let's make a thread of the reasons why we appriciate Mike Love, even if some of us don't have very many reasons.  I'll start us off...

1. Big Sur is a beautiful song
2. His vocals on Fun, Fun, Fun
3. His endurance and ability to perform well even after 50+ years.
4. His lyrics on Warmth of the Sun

That's just to get the ball rolling, but I think there is too much Mike bashing here. I love every Beach Boy, and at the end of the day I think Mike is a pretty talented guy.

(OSD might murder me for this post!!!!)



It's a fine topic to start and there are many highlights to highlight...but Nate, why include the lines in your post in bold instead of just letting people post what they think are highlights and good things to celebrate? There's been enough attempts to paint this community and members overall who participate here as nothing but Mike Bashers, and in doing so diminish and dismiss everything about this forum. They've failed miserably so far, the board is still active and running much better since the real problems left, so it doesn't make sense to have an active member add fuel to a fire that hasn't burned here for a long time instead of just letting people talk. No need to take shots at this place or anyone here.

I'd also ask if all of the negative comments in the past week showing up many places online are all examples of "Mike Bashing", or if they're people voicing opinions on something they don't like. And I'd also add that among the people who have been tagged as the bashers (up to and including attempts to have their backgrounds checked and have them removed by interests no longer here...) are some very passionate and long-time fans who can both walk the walk and talk the talk about the band, the music, and the history. So I'd reconsider those few lines and perhaps let things roll. 



It's a fine line between Mike bashing and just saying what you don't like, it looks like. There are many things I don't like. I'm not defending recent events in the Mike Love Universe (I haven't seen or heard DIA17 because why do that to myself? Everyone said it sucks so I have better things to do.) I'm sure I'd hate it, and I don't want to. Hating things is the worst. I just feel like the OP was trying to create a Mike Bashing Free Zone  and it quickly devolved into something else. Maybe in those bolded words he admitted what Mike's shortcomings,  but that's what you do in a thesis. You admit what the arguments against your point might be, but then he went ahead ahead and opened the floor to the pro side. I feel like that's what was trying to be attempted here, and I support it. Maybe I could just go and list my FAVE MIKE THINGS but most of them have already been listed (say what you want about that).  I just am defending the idealistic proposition behind a Mike Love Love Thread, because I'm apparently a hippie at heart, LOL.

I'm not trying to stir the pot. I just feel like there are a number of threads about recent Mike-related events that have leaned toward the yuck, and the point of this thread  was to offset that, and I think that's... well, good.
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: A little love for Mr. Love on: July 20, 2017, 08:27:20 PM
"This is a thread for Mike Love Love. So why does it have to turn into something else? "

Because one wouldn't back a thread supporting the positive aspects of other historically challenged dick-weeds...so why, then, this particular one?  Do we really have to completely overlook the litany of offensive shyte this mother-f*cker has heaped on the band, the individuals, the legacy and dismiss his OWN reason for continuously doing it...year after fucking year/interview after fucking interview?

Really?

What's to love?

No one's overlooking the litany. That's not what this thread is about. I acknowlegge the litany! *Hands in the air pushing upward.* But I have no problem with a thread that celebrates his good contributions. I mean, how can anyone be a fan of this band without acknowledging them? I mean, he's so much a part of this band, and many of its best moments. Maybe I'm too new a fan. But if I let his shortcomings get in the way of my enjoyment of the music, then what's the friggin' point?

If the issue and topic were just about celebrating good contributions, then why don't you also ask the original poster Nate why he took two swipes at this community where he posts instead of just starting a thread celebrating good contributions with no swipes against people here or the board in general? I already addressed it.

Okay, I just went back and read the OP of this thread. There is no Mike-bashing. That's the point. There are no swipes in the OP of this thread. Regardless of what he's said in other threads, clearly the OP post in this thread is about celebrating the the good things Mike has done for the band.
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: A little love for Mr. Love on: July 20, 2017, 08:01:20 PM
"This is a thread for Mike Love Love. So why does it have to turn into something else? "

Because one wouldn't back a thread supporting the positive aspects of other historically challenged dick-weeds...so why, then, this particular one?  Do we really have to completely overlook the litany of offensive shyte this mother-f*cker has heaped on the band, the individuals, the legacy and dismiss his OWN reason for continuously doing it...year after fucking year/interview after fucking interview?

Really?

What's to love?

No one's overlooking the litany. That's not what this thread is about. I acknowlegge the litany! *Hands in the air pushing upward.* But I have no problem with a thread that celebrates his good contributions. I mean, how can anyone be a fan of this band without acknowledging them? I mean, he's so much a part of this band, and many of its best moments. Maybe I'm too new a fan. But if I let his shortcomings get in the way of my enjoyment of the music, then what's the friggin' point?
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: A little love for Mr. Love on: July 20, 2017, 07:42:10 PM
There's a whole lotta Mike bashing on this website. But afterall, we are all here because we love The Beach Boys, and Mike is one of the original members, and still plays The Beach Boys music to this day. Let's make a thread of the reasons why we appriciate Mike Love, even if some of us don't have very many reasons.  I'll start us off...

1. Big Sur is a beautiful song
2. His vocals on Fun, Fun, Fun
3. His endurance and ability to perform well even after 50+ years.
4. His lyrics on Warmth of the Sun

That's just to get the ball rolling, but I think there is too much Mike bashing here. I love every Beach Boy, and at the end of the day I think Mike is a pretty talented guy.

(OSD might murder me for this post!!!!)



It's a fine topic to start and there are many highlights to highlight...but Nate, why include the lines in your post in bold instead of just letting people post what they think are highlights and good things to celebrate? There's been enough attempts to paint this community and members overall who participate here as nothing but Mike Bashers, and in doing so diminish and dismiss everything about this forum. They've failed miserably so far, the board is still active and running much better since the real problems left, so it doesn't make sense to have an active member add fuel to a fire that hasn't burned here for a long time instead of just letting people talk. No need to take shots at this place or anyone here.

I'd also ask if all of the negative comments in the past week showing up many places online are all examples of "Mike Bashing", or if they're people voicing opinions on something they don't like. And I'd also add that among the people who have been tagged as the bashers (up to and including attempts to have their backgrounds checked and have them removed by interests no longer here...) are some very passionate and long-time fans who can both walk the walk and talk the talk about the band, the music, and the history. So I'd reconsider those few lines and perhaps let things roll. 

The last couple of days I have headed over the PS forum to read their take on the DIA single. I gotta say that community seems to be in some highly-strung distress over this forum. I went to four different pages there the other day (fairly random threads too) and I saw as many posts directly or indirectly mentioning this place in a negative light...funny that this place lives rent free in a lot of peoples' minds over there. Anywho, a lot of the comments were about Mike bashing here.

I'll take any of the rational discussion about Mike here over the fairytale world that goes on over there. I mean you exclude what, two posters here, and the "Mike bashing" is more what you got the past few days: discussions revolving around the history of the band, defining legacy, etc. Does it happen often? Yep, about as often as Mike does something blatantly ridiculous whether it be a tactless interview comment or a single that got primarily dreadful feedback from the fans, or a couple days later dropping a video for said single. I'm just glad we now have a forum where talking freely about band members doesn't elicit an IP address search for an interested party.

Sorry to veer the thread, Nate...but you did bring it up Grin

Well from my perspective... I realize I'm a fairly new member and expect to get basically zero response from this because I know better. But being a pretty neutral member of both boards, I have to say there is hate and love on both boards. Maybe I've just had too much whisky (which is usually the case when I type words on the internet) but I'm just gonna say it. This is a thread for Mike Love Love. So why does it have to turn into something else? There are plenty of threads that support the opposite view.
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New Mike Single on: July 12, 2017, 10:03:33 AM
 LOL

JK, you win the internet today!
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Quentin Tarantino Prepping New Movie Tackling Manson Murders on: July 12, 2017, 07:52:58 AM
Isn't Quentin Tarantino from Hawthorne? I'm very curious to see what he'll do with this. I agree that the Dennis/Manson relationship would be too tantalizing for him to ignore. But if the people behind the TV show Aquarius couldn't get the rights to use NLNTL in the show, I wonder if Tarantino would be able to?
9  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Beatles Survivor #10: Magical Mystery Tour on: July 11, 2017, 03:23:22 PM
Blue Jay Way
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Does this ever happen to you? on: July 11, 2017, 03:20:03 PM
The glass was raised, the fires rose, the fullness of the wine, the dim last-toasting... while I poured a do or die.

I love a good mondegreen  Smiley
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Need avdice for picking a good seat for Brian at Radio City on: July 07, 2017, 03:11:52 PM
Yeah, the piano is sort of angled in such a way that if you sit left of the centre you'll have a better view of his profile rather than just his head floating above the piano.  The show I was at in Winnipeg in April, I sat in row 3, left of centre, and was able to see him from the shoulders up, perfect view. Pretty close, but just far enough away to not get blockage from the piano.

So looking at the seat map I'd go with Orch 5, but that's just me.

Radio City is a stunning venue, seeing him there should be mindblowing!
12  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Beatles Survivor #10: Magical Mystery Tour on: June 30, 2017, 03:25:52 PM
Blue Jay Way. I have given this song ample opportunity to grow on me and it never has.
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: June 29, 2017, 06:47:22 AM
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Haha, yes, it's Dennis. I should imagine it was merely overenthusiasm on his part.

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It is, I believe, during a 1989 "Endless Summer" campfire segment after a performance of the song, that Brian reminisces about Dennis doing that note at the end of "Graduation Day."

Thanks for confirming that JK and HJ Smiley

I had no idea this Endless Summer TV series existed... Definitely gonna have to look into that! I found an episode guide that looks like this recollection happened on episode 7.
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: June 28, 2017, 12:20:23 PM
At the end of Graduation Day on Beach Boys Concert, who is it that sings "daaaaaaaaaaaayyy" on his own too early? I assume it's Dennis, because it sort of sounds like the voice is un-mic'ed and coming from the back.

Was that premature delivery just his mistake, or did the other guys play a joke on him, holding back on on purpose? It does sound like there's some other goofing around going on during the performance.
15  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Beatles Survivor #9: Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band FINAL ROUND!!! on: June 27, 2017, 05:44:14 AM
Lucy In the Sky With Diamonds
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Aren't You Glad (2017 Stereo Mix) up on youtube! on: June 23, 2017, 09:05:34 AM
Its working on NPR now. All is right with the world.

Yay! Finally got to hear this... so crisp and bright... and those horns! Amazing.
17  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Beatles Survivor #9: Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band on: June 21, 2017, 06:56:33 PM
She's Leaving Home
18  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Beatles Survivor #9: Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band on: June 20, 2017, 04:42:18 PM
Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Happy 75th Brian Wilson! on: June 20, 2017, 10:01:27 AM
Happy Happy Happy Birthday, Brian! Thank you for all you have given and keep giving us. You and your music mean so much to me, to all of us. I hope this day brings you tons of love, laughter and joy!
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New Brian Wilson comp coming with \ on: June 19, 2017, 01:11:06 PM
Thanks for sharing Smiley

Googled and found this:

https://www.nika.si/Pop__Pop/The_Brian_Wilson_Anthology/

(It's the same write-up as posted above, but the photo for what looks like the cover is nice   )
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Beach Boys Wild Honey(Sunshine Tomorrow) 2CD Set? on: June 19, 2017, 08:36:17 AM
These price differentials are all very confusing. I pre-ordered mine when it was announced, not on amazon.ca but on amazon.com, and my price is $19.98 before taxes and shipipng. It doesn't indicate an exchange for Canadian currency. If I do a search I see the same thing listed at two prices, one at $19.98 and one at $43.70 with (smh) in brackets and a note that it's an import. If I search on amazon.ca, there is only one price: $40.60.  So I don't know what's gonna happen with my order since I didn't order from the Canadian amazon... I guess I'll just have to wait and see.

If you ordered from Amazon.com (the US site), you're fine and the whole thing is simple. You'll be charged the current price (or, if it lowers between now and release date, you'll get the lowest price; this pre-order price guarantee is in place on both the US and Canadian Amazon sites). If you're in Canada and buying from the US Amazon site, it'll just convert the US dollars to Canadian dollars when you're charged when the item ships. All simple.

You obviously can order from either Amazon site; you'd just have to figure out which is more expensive including shipping costs. You also have to account for how it will probably take longer to ship from the US Amazon site to a Canadian address versus ordering direct from Amazon Canada. If you want the CD set sooner, possibly on release date, you'd probably be better ordering from Amazon Canada I'd guess if you have a Canadian address.


Right. That makes sense. Thanks for logicking that out for me, LOL. Looks like with the exchange rate it'll come out just slightly better than if I had ordered from amazon.ca. Other Canadian fans, you might want to consider ordering from .com instead, you might get a better price.
22  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Beatles Survivor #9: Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band on: June 19, 2017, 07:48:23 AM
Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Beach Boys Wild Honey(Sunshine Tomorrow) 2CD Set? on: June 19, 2017, 07:41:59 AM
These price differentials are all very confusing. I pre-ordered mine when it was announced, not on amazon.ca but on amazon.com, and my price is $19.98 before taxes and shipipng. It doesn't indicate an exchange for Canadian currency. If I do a search I see the same thing listed at two prices, one at $19.98 and one at $43.70 with (smh) in brackets and a note that it's an import. If I search on amazon.ca, there is only one price: $40.60.  So I don't know what's gonna happen with my order since I didn't order from the Canadian amazon... I guess I'll just have to wait and see.
24  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Beatles Survivor #9: Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band on: June 14, 2017, 08:40:30 AM
Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
25  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: new Pet Sounds ZOO \ on: June 13, 2017, 05:14:07 PM
Can anybody explain what's "stealth (band) T-shirt"?

A shirt with a band reference that's maybe a bit obscure, that only other serious fans would get. It's stealthy because you can walk around town wearing a shirt like that and know what it means, but the general public just thinks it's a cool looking shirt. Meanwhile, you're all like "muahahahahaha! I'm in a secret elite class of people who will understand and appreciate this and we will nod and click our tongues and point at each other knowingly while walking past each other", or something, LOL.
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