I dunno. Are you or I in the Beach Boys? No .... Let the guy have his damn educated opinion.

He's had it. No one stopped him having it. Who was trying to censor Mike? Not me. I simply came to a fan forum to give my opinion on his as a fan. Seems fair to me.

Although tellingly, either David Beard or Mike has apparently chosen not to stand by said opinion given that the article has been removed.

What's also a hilarious thing to ponder is, how much am I willing to bet, if Mike were to actually "attack" Brian in such an interview, you guys would all be crying "But why can't Mike just attack Brian's handlers? It's them!!! Not Brian"

Quit strawmanning, it's lame. Mike has said plenty of nasty stuff about Brian and his work in the past. Fortunately these days he seems more accepting and understanding up to a point. What's your point? I'm talking about things that have actually happened and been said, why are you throwing up hypotheticals. Is that the only argument you can come up with? A fictional one?

You are completely talking out of your rear, to be quite frank. I love Brian and Mike for all they've given us. If Mike called Brian an asshole, I'd think Mike was being an asshole. Same goes the other way. I'd argue perhaps Brian has more reason to say that, but I'd still be immensely disappointed by him doing so.

My god you guys are so friendly and accepting of dissenting points of view .... And you wonder why folks with my tone pop up every now and then?

That would be a coup, Pinder. I'd also love to see you collaborate with Mike Love and learn the true meaning of Kokomo up close. He needs to compete with BW, so pretend you're a sh*t-hot up and coming so and so and are "like this" with Bruno Mars. Tell him you used to romp with Lana Del Rey. Get in a room with him and report back if he thinks your arrangements are commercial enough.

I'm all for that! And if this occurs on one of the two evenings a year where Bruce is allowed a Pacifico: who knows where the night may lead!

Keep going Pinder, someday you will convince somebody.

You've already used that line on me, SB

I'm saving up for 2 tickets to Club Kokomo for you and OSD! Platinum package!

I dunno. Are you or I in the Beach Boys? No .... Let the guy have his damn educated opinion.

He's had it. No one stopped him having it. Who was trying to censor Mike? Not me. I simply came to a fan forum to give my opinion on his as a fan. Seems fair to me.

Although tellingly, either David Beard or Mike has apparently chosen not to stand by said opinion given that the article has been removed.

What's also a hilarious thing to ponder is, how much am I willing to bet, if Mike were to actually "attack" Brian in such an interview, you guys would all be crying "But why can't Mike just attack Brian's handlers? It's them!!! Not Brian"

Between this and your suicide bomber comment I can't even try to take you seriously.

Anyways, back to reality...Perhaps someone who actually knows what happened regarding the article's disappearance could comment on this matter...

You not taking me seriously? Quite a compliment considering this lot.

However, yes, I agree completely in perhaps allowing some insider info regarding the interview's yanking might be a good thing to wait for ... I'm sure Woodward and Bernstein are on it!

I dunno. Are you or I in the Beach Boys? No .... Let the guy have his damn educated opinion.

He's had it. No one stopped him having it. Who was trying to censor Mike? Not me. I simply came to a fan forum to give my opinion on his as a fan. Seems fair to me.

Although tellingly, either David Beard or Mike has apparently chosen not to stand by said opinion given that the article has been removed.

What's also a hilarious thing to ponder is, how much am I willing to bet, if Mike were to actually "attack" Brian in such an interview, you guys would all be crying "But why can't Mike just attack Brian's handlers? It's them!!! Not Brian"

I dunno. Are you or I in the Beach Boys? No .... Let the guy have his damn educated opinion.

If it was such an inoffensive, accurate, and polite statement/answer from Mike, it makes one ponder why the hell it would be taken down. Surely the "misguided" complaints from some fans wouldn't warrant a complete irradication of the article in question from the site that published it...especially if the article in question was entirely sound.

Hey, whatever suits your personal narrative!

Agreed, its crazy how Mike lets such bile out and then expects a hollow statement of future reunion plans to make up for it.

Why do you guys even bother discussing subjects where there can be no happy ending for you? Aren't there dungeons where you can work as subs of the most violent order? ... In another life you'd all be suicide bombers.

I'm personally amazed that Michael calling Brian a sweet and gentle soul and that when Brian's ready, he's ready, isn't the main takeaway from this interview .... Mike loves his cousin and has shut no doors preventing any future collaborations .....

It's a standard practice for anyone in the media - especially someone with as much experience with it as Mike has - to end a long screed against someone on a compliment in the hope that your points are made and you still come off looking like a good guy. More often than not it works, however the 'points' on this occasion were so unnecessary to the line of questioning that it didn't.

I'm sorry, but anyone taking Mike's comments in question as a long screed against Brian simply WANTS to see it that way.

I'm personally amazed that Michael calling Brian a sweet and gentle soul and that when Brian's ready, he's ready, isn't the main takeaway from this interview .... Mike loves his cousin and has shut no doors preventing any future collaborations .....

Can't this be good enough?

Mike is Mike just like we're all ourselves, warts n all... Why not be happy with the good parts?

Fig. 224. "Set End Date"

This might just be my favorite Club Kokomo meet-n-greet pic.

Well put Billy, but don't we all kinda know Michael E. Love a little by now? Don't we kinda know what to expect in an interview? The guy's in his mid 70's and isn't likely to start making us all happy regarding all these topics now ... He's set in his ways, and so are we ... And even when he does say something we might appreciate, his words just cause a feeding frenzy for the sharks ....

It should tell us something that Dennis was by far those most intelligent, articulate, thoughtful and insightful interview subject in The Beach Boys. We need to let the man (Myke) be himself.

OSD will take his sleeping pills

Gives new meaning to the term "lookin for Love in all the wrong places"

Only Pinder dreams of M&B at seaworld

Or any of the new venues that they'll be booking in the future such as Dairy Queen, Wendy's(Free Baconators w/cheeze), WalMart parking lots, dealership openings, local senior centers, turnpike rest stops, Greyhound terminals and the nursing home circuit.    

The last one means they're coming for YOU, OSD!!! 

I'm still wondering how Jewish people who don't eat bacon feel about Mike

I feel sorry for Mike at the Sea World gig ... All that BBQ on the grills wafting toward the stage!!!

Dude! As if! As if there wasn't unlimited gratis barbeque backstage at the seaworld gig. gnorance personified. you stupid piece of hoot.

Sir, please try and follow the thread ..... Mike's a vegetarian .... Get it??

I'm still wondering how Jewish people who don't eat bacon feel about Mike

I feel sorry for Mike at the Sea World gig ... All that BBQ on the grills wafting toward the stage!!!

You do bitch about Mike. A lot.  It's kind of mean too.  He posted your pic at his show with a "Thanks Bossaroo"  and now you post it and make fun of him that he did that. He was having a bit of fun and you go and do that?  That is high school bullying and plain nasty. 

i really don't. in this thread, yes. but not all over this board.

high school bullying? I am bullying Mike Love? because I reposted the 'Thanks Bossaroo' picture? really??


he was having a bit of fun and so was I. the fact that Mike went searching through a thread called Weirdest Pics of Mike Love You Can Find and found one he liked, and actually put it on the big screen at his concert is pretty funny to me. whether he intended it to be funny is unclear, which makes it even funnier.

most people who have spent much time with Mike and Brian at certain points in the Beach Boys' career have described his dynamic with Brian as somewhat bullying and intimidating. perhaps even physical altercations provoked by Mike. if me posting a couple pictures on a message board is bullying Mike Love... fine. i'll take it.

I can stand the heat fine but am fed up with the BS. Because I respond to something YOU did say does not mean every statement in a post is directly talking about you. And you were way off topic days ago IN THIS THREAD when you made YOUR comments abut Mike making money ect. and that had NOTHING to do with how he handled the C50. Brian spent years doing nothing regarding the BB's and a guy named Landy drugged the hell out of him in an attempt to brainwash him into thinking he needed him to exist. If you find those facts disrespectful that's your hang up.

Mike's major complaint about the C50 tour was how much money it was costing, what a large and cumbersome show it was. not streamlined enough. too lavish. he found a way to mention it in almost every interview at the time. and as a result, he came across as overly concerned about money and expenses. even when it was all over he still couldn't shut up about it. mentioning Mike's preoccupation with money is dead-on topic.

and there you go again... "Brian spent years doing nothing"
what years were those exactly?

For you and that other guy that wants things to be personal...

Bossaroo! What is your problem? I will try to be very clear this time...OK..my "Brian spent years doing nothing" was a response to comments I was making concerning Mike Love and the Beach Boys with Carl and Alan and not Brian. It was all about the recording and touring and Beach Boy Brian ect. ...OK...it was always pretty clear. Do you get it now?

I'm fully aware of Brian's struggles and mental illness issues over his lifespan. 

I attended concerts in the early 80's where I witnessed a chain-smoking 300 pound man, seemingly on the verge of a heart attack, onstage, singing into a mic that was not hooked up to anything, singing lyrics to a song the Beach Boys were not even singing beside him, and thinking.... boy this is great ..it's  Brian... but... I was also thinking....c'mon guys.... figure this out cause this isn't good.  Took place at the Wisconsin State Fair two years straight..81 and 82.  At that time Brian WAS doing something with the BB's and clearly should not have been.

I don't need to be lectured about being insensitive. There was NOTHING insensitive in my comments to anyone but those like you looking for a gripe. Trying to turn this into some kind of slam on Brian is a load of crap that you are imagining.

You bring up a major major hurdle with this board ... We can't even be honest about Brian here without being accused of being "anti-Brian Wilson" and if we get the least bit sensitive about insults toward Mike, we're greeted with only more insults, where being accused of being "anti-Brian" that's generall greeted with either apologies or attempts to explain such taken out of context comments in minute detail ... See the trouble with this set-up?

Look, bacon's been around for like, how many decades? Centuries? All Mike has to do is send Bruce down to the nearest Ralph's and put a strip or two on the stove. Takes like 3 minutes to cook ..... Brian loves bacon! Bruce has even posted some comments about liking bacon. Why can't Mike just cook some himself instead of just saying "Oh, I've never had it" .... Makes me sad...

If you knew anything, you'd know Mike's a vegetarian. So no bacon for Mike.

But shouldn't he just do it for Brian? To show his appreciation for Brian's favorite processed meat? He can even scribble an apology for SMILE on a napkin.

Look, bacon's been around for like, how many decades? Centuries? All Mike has to do is send Bruce down to the nearest Ralph's and put a strip or two on the stove. Takes like 3 minutes to cook ..... Brian loves bacon! Bruce has even posted some comments about liking bacon. Why can't Mike just cook some himself instead of just saying "Oh, I've never had it" .... Makes me sad...

Threads like this kill the spirit of the music we all love.  We all have opinions and views of past and current happenings, but we never seem to remember a few things.  99 percent of us base our opinions on at best second hand information, and the 1 percent that know the real inner workings will likely never spill the beans.  Getting back to my point, regardless of what side of the fence you lean towards, I think we could all agree it has stopped being about the music a long time ago.  Why don't we make it about the music again?  

I think I can fairly speak for a lot of us here in that, regardless of what "camp" you're in, the people involved in creating this music, and their stories are a big reason why the music as a whole grabs us and resonates/takes on even greater meaning than merely on it's own merit .... That and the amount of cultural cache the music has claimed .... It is very very difficult to approach The Beach Boys music on face value alone.

Well, when he was a wee lad, the Dead Sea was merely sick


 My wife used that one on me

He was around long before the Love hereditary hairline went south!

Nah, Mike had the bad rap back when OSD was playing PONG.

You mean when his grandkids were playing PONG

Hey PGTKABA! I resemble that remark!

You mean you were actually there to see Plymouth Rock roll over??

And it's not a matter of Myke Luv being a great guy or bad person that's the point .... It's the extent to which some of you obssess over it while ignoring some awful stuff a guy like Dennis did while in the same band ... Someone blew off my Stones comparison earlier but can you just imagine if Mike said Brian had a small penis in print??? ... Actually, I can imagine because you all react as though he has said such a thing ....

Point is: can some of us accept Mike for being a flawed human being yet still love his band and be fans of his work? Yes! And it is extremely easy .... The bullying and sociopathic hatred is what must be truly hard.

Nah, Mike had the bad rap back when OSD was playing PONG.

You mean when his grandkids were playing PONG

AGD, Cam Mott, Pinder, Paul JB, and others are the great wall of kokomo. Mike can do no wrong with them despite shitting on the BBs name everytime he uses it in M&B.

If you actually ever read a post on this board as opposed to trolling what thread would be an opportunity to jump in and take a jab at Mike, you would know I think Mike can and has done plenty of dumb things. I challenge the moderators to calculate the posts that you contribute to that have nothing to do with bashing Mike in comparison to the ones where you dig at Mike. It is blatant and TROLLING.

You hate Mike and we know that. Is it possible that you can now shut the hell up about it or do we need to be reminded by you day after day after day on this site?

I don't hate Mike. He might have flaws but we all do. He is Brian's cousin and a huge part of my favorite band ever.  You clowns that claim to be Beach Boys fans but bitch about Mike Love NON-STOP and are annoyed by songs like I Get Around really are a joke. Get a life...get a new band....or get help.

Or how about YOU looking for another board, huh? Last time I checked, opinions are, in fact, what this place is all about and without them conditions here would be quite boring. If anyone needs help, it may be you yourself in your pathetic defense of the luhvster. I have my opinion of him and will, as long as they allow me, state that opinion regardless of who takes issue with it. I may disapprove of who I choose with the understanding that some here may not like what I say. Did it ever cross your mind as to exactly WHY Love gets so much negative press here and at numerous other sites on the internet? Could it be that there may be valid reasons why people say what they do about him and not say... Carl, Al, Dennis or Brian?? Did you ever land on that godforsaken, barren, wasteland called the Mike Love Fan Club?? It's literally an outpost that is hugely ignored. Why? The man has been in show business for 52 years! I'd say it speaks volumes by it's lack of attention. So, if you don't like what you see here, move on, but knock off the crap you spew about having an opinion. Having one of those here is enough and one more in the mix is unnecessary.

Just to be clear and fair, OSD: much if not MOST of the negativity about Mike on other sites is because of stuff posted by you!