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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Why a reunion won't happen.....
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on: July 28, 2009, 12:59:40 PM
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I honestly don't understand how anyone can fail to see the creation of the Beach Boys formula as anything other than a collaboration. I really don't get this hardcore desire to make Brian singlehandedly responsible for it. I simply don't. I just chalk it up to lazy hero worship and lazy "rock" journalism.
Brian didn't tell Mike to sing in a nasal voice and sound like some punk kid, did he?
Did he decide to write about surfing ?(and it's absolutely silly to claim that the subject matter had nothing to do with the BBs early success. And it demonstrates and ignorance toward pop music history in general)
Did he force Carl to become a Chuck Berry obsessive and to want to bring that element to their music?
Did he decide to put in the doo wop style bass vocal from Mike?
I think the answer is no to at least 3 if not all of those questions.
This just means the creation of the Beach Boys formula was a collaboration! And magical collaborations are a wonderful thing. Why not embrace it??
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Sunflower Live
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on: July 27, 2009, 03:20:23 PM
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I have a few pairs of old levi-boot-cut jeans which include live versions of Cool Cool Water, It's About Time, Forever, Tears In The Morning (solo Bruce on piano as well as full-band), Add Some Music (with a LONG intro by Mike), This Whole World (70s,)
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Why a reunion won't happen.....
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on: July 27, 2009, 01:09:09 PM
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You're trying to reason with someone who hates solo Brian simple because it's not the Beach Boys. And he thinks his opinion on solo Brian is THE ONLY ONE THAT MATTERS AND IS THE MAJORITY OPINION (never mind the fact that his opinion is actually in the minority).
Never mind the fact too that Brian's spent his whole solo career basically milking off of the Beach Boys' formula. Yes, I know he created it, but still. Old dogs, new tricks, that kinda thing. Maybe Brian will one day give us that album of jazz standards. I think of it as Brian making BB records without the BB. John Fogerty not only gets a free pass but gets tons of critcal acclaim for "milking off of ther CCR formula" which could also be interpeted as making CCR records without Doug and Stu. In fact I said exactly the same thing about solo John to some CCR fans on Susan's board and got shut down (no pun intended). If anyone deserves to milk the BB formula, it's Brian simply because he created itbody deserves to milk the BB formula, it's Brian simply because he created it. Same with Fogerty and CCR's.Brian did NOT create the Beach Boys formula! The Beach Boys did!!! Brian had some chords, Dennis had the subject matter, Mike had the lyrics (some of them) and the nasal lead/bass vocal, Brian had the fallsetto, and Al and Carl had a back-ups.... THAT is the Beach Boys formula! if anyone deserves the lions share of the credit, it's Dennis! if he hadn't insisted on them wrtiting about surfing, I doubt we'd have ever known about these guys. People really need to stop perpetuating myths. Sure, Brian took the formula and ran with it and was leader, without a doubt! But he did not singlehandedly create the Beach Boys formula!!!
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Why a reunion won't happen.....
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on: July 24, 2009, 12:59:40 PM
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I could certainly see Mike, Al, and Bruce coming out for the encore of a BW show and doing the whole "hits" set! I don't think the Brian camp would have it any other way, and it's actually easier for me to see Mike, Bruce and Al having the humility to be "guests" at a BW show, rather than the other way around. And I'm not even talking about Brian's take on the whole thing.
But that would be cool and everyone would probably be happy. Brian's band would be there and all the Brian maniacs could talk about how rusty Mike, Bruce, and Al's vocals are compared to Brian's band's, and the rest of us could blather in adoration about that special "Beach Boys vocal magic"...... Ugh, why is this depressing me?
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Dennis' I've Got a Friend
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on: July 24, 2009, 12:39:33 PM
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I'm no Foo Fighters fan, but I think Taylor was a perfect choice, being a drummer n all! It's also nice to see another drummer respecting Dennis! As I've said before, In my book, Dennis (along with Ringo) invented rock drumming as we know it! I could elaborate, but I don't want to put everyone to sleep.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Why a reunion won't happen.....
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on: July 23, 2009, 04:29:33 PM
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I'm not gonna mess with percenteges, but here's another guy's personal opinion.
Here are my top 10 fave Beach Boys songs/recordings
1. Cool Cool Water 2. The Warmth Of The Sun 3. Forever 4. All I Wanna Do (Sunflower) 5. In My Room 6. Fun Fun Fun (yes, seriously) 7. California Girls 8. Trader 9. Kiss Me Baby 10. Good Vibrations
7 out of the 10 involve Mike.....
Just another opinion
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Why a reunion won't happen.....
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on: July 23, 2009, 02:11:49 PM
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[ quote author=DonnaK link=topic=7551.msg122683#msg122683 date=1248315919] "It's been a long time since Mike and Brian collaborated together with music or anything else for that matter. Brian's worked with Tony Asher on Pet Sounds, Van Dyke on Smile, Scott Bennett for TLOS, etc. When WAS the last time he and Mike did a song together?
I think that Brian has passed the musical stage of the Beach Boys and gone further ahead muscially. I was listening to TLOS last night, and the horns, violins, flutes, etc. all the instruments that Brian uses in his band now, is so much more advanced than the Mike/Bruce band. I'm sorry to say that the Mike/Bruce band could just be another tribute band who keep touring the world like so many others. Even Al does new music for goodness sakes."To be fair, Mike's recorded at least one entire album of new stuff that no one cares to release. Brian could hand an hour of blank tape over to his lable and they'd release it and Brian people would praise it to high heaven. So, why slam him for playing the hits? How is Brian really any different, other than releasing a new album? He has a BBs sound alike band and they play the hits too and other guys sing Mike's parts on many songs that Mike co-wrote! If that's fine, then leave him and Bruce alone and go praise Brian and his band. There's enough options Brian/Mike-wise/your entertainment dollar-wise to go around.
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