Ricky 1950 - after reading what I could find on LA Times which covered Brian's suit (over the Sea of Tunes catalog sold by Murry) none of this looks like news to me.

Not sure if this is a response to me or not, but if so, I was only citing the page that I think the quote posted by the OP may have referenced. I am not claiming anything is (or is not) new.

Sorry "Rick 5150" -  I cited your handle incorrectly.  The quote you included made me look up some of the LA Times articles that have covered BB related matters over time and unfortunately a child will not be happy to see a parent not memorialized the way he/she might like or in an unflattering light.  We saw that with Landy's son who is not happy with the way his father was portrayed in Love and Mercy. 

Those cases that arose (for many reasons) with regard the sale of Sea of Tunes, and the judgments are what remains about that band history.  I suspect both books will have a similar time-line, as far as this sale by Murry is concerned.  The court was not pleased with the conflicts-of-interest that were not disclosed.

What you wrote reminded me of the series of article in the LA Times about the litigation and I posted after yours.  I did not think you were claiming something new and I don't think it is new.   

"So in summary... the Beach Boy lawyer¹ who engineered the fraudulent sale of our catalog was introduced to us by a man who ended up working at the very company that bought the catalog² - a scam that enriched that company mightily and, indirectly, all of it's employees, including David Anderle, who everyone agreed, had a smashing twenty-six-year career at A&M Records.

What a town."

¹ Abe Somer
² David Anderle

Superscript notes are mine, referencing the text that came prior to the summary.

Ricky 1950 - after reading what I could find on LA Times which covered Brian's suit (over the Sea of Tunes catalog sold by Murry) none of this looks like news to me.

A & M was owned by Herb Alpert and Jerry Moss. Anderle was a classmate at Fairfax High in LA with both of them. 

p.s. What did surprise me is what I found reported in the LA Times going back to 1991 on music industry sexual harassment, payola, etc.  One of these parties is mentioned.   

http://articles.latimes.com/1991-11-03/news/mn-1568_sexual-harrassment

The suit, as I recall did find fraud and in favor of Brian, but it appeared too late (likely statue of limitations issues because I don't have the actual documents in front of me) to undo the transfer of the Sea of Tunes catalog back to the Beach Boys.  They did give a money award.

There were allegations that the lawyer represented A & M records at the time unknown to the Plaintiff (Brian.)  The referenced court docs also "alleged that (Somer) failed to disclose the direct and irreconcilable conflict of interest." (LA Times - September 19, 1989 written by Irv Letofsky.)

None of this looks like news to me.      



http://articles.latimes.com/1989-09-19/entertainment/ca-4315_1_brian-wilson

The LA Times, I found was the  best source for helping me fill in the background.


 

 

 

Just my way of showing that the my post was purely in jest. 

Sometimes these type of threads go down that rabbit hole, so I figured I'd inject some humor.

And hey, it's five O clock somewhere.

 

Yes, in jest.     Levity is essential. 

My mother always said that...

But, I still do wish they would add a few more emoticons for coffee, or a wine glass, or champagne...

How about whoever picked out the Beach Boys' sweaters for the cover of Today? 

The person who gave Al the stomach bug that prevented him from being on the cover of SDSN? 

Bob Saget for his bold one man attempt at doing all of the vocals from Good Vibrations?  No, wait, that was actually awesome. 

 

KDS - it is too early to be hoisting that John B (beer.)

They should have a cup o' Joe in the emoticons bank.  

How about the guy who turned Brian on to LSD ?

The word "despised" is a problem for me from the OP.  "Hating" someone is a waste of emotion, and I would soften that characterization a bit by saying "problematic" - and would suggest a triumvirate.

Daro (I agree 100% and Brian consistently seems to indicate that this is a "line of demarcation" for him, despite various apologists for LSD.)

Manson

Landy - so that is chronologically, in order of damage to the band.  Only a bystander, so I could be wrong.  

But a lot of damage appears to have flowed from this 1st person.  I was waiting until someone nailed that and I would agree with you.  

I was listening to Holland today...and thinking it was the end of an era. To me, it seemed like the last time the band actually worked to make an artistic statement. There was a certain level of care, quality, and consideration in their post-Pet Sounds releases. They sounded like they were still reaching for acceptance as a musically progressive band.

Then Endless Summer hit...and it suddenly became okay to "give up" and be happy with trying to recapture nostalgia. I know maybe I'm simplifying things...but that is kind of how it feels.

I think you can see it in their history. You can see it in the growing frustration of Carl and especially Dennis when product like 15 Big Ones was released.

Brian was still capable of creating some truly interesting music...but I don't think he was doing it with the intention of creating something commercial.

I just feel that after Holland the band stopped operating as a true musical unit and everything kind of splintered.

It is probably correct - but the "end of an era?" probably in terms of an album of "consciousness raising" maybe and I think of it as So Tough - CATP part 2,  In Concert, part 3, and one work - a trilogy.  I think it was released towards the end of the Vietnam War era, and even though neither studio album was a commercial success made a sociological statement (or many.) The Concert Album did much better.
 
And, yet the double LP (which I include in this corpus, because it contained a lot of the CATP - Holland cuts) was a commercial success and was not only well received, did go US "gold" and was on the charts for about six months, top spot at #25.  I look at the three as a trilogy because the Concert album includes We Got Love and the live stuff is mixed with the classics in the live context and shows the audience response. 


Sail on Sailor - released as a single in January of 1973 and September of 1975 as a single.
The Trader
Marcella
Leaving This Town
Funky Pretty
We Got Love (the only place I think this is, didn't make the Holland LP)

Agree - that it is probably the end of a snapshot of that era.   

Interesting link with sampler tracks...

http://www.allmusic.com/album/in-concert-mw0000313591

Life - is for the Living...

Back in the day, when I bought a Beach Boys album, I would bring it home, claw it open and listen to it nearly non-stop until months later when the next album was released. I had to save my allowance for weeks and then walk to King’s Department Store in Methuen, Massachusetts to buy the albums.

Once I got my license, I was able to drive to Rainbow Records in nearby Salem, New Hampshire and pick up some of the ones that I had missed, along with some rarities. The dude running the shop was a Beach Boys fan and he would order some of the older albums for me, and I would wait patiently for them to arrive.  Of course, during that time I was listening to the latest album repeatedly and anxiously awaiting the next release.

Nowadays, listeners can download the entire Beach Boys catalog and listen to snippets to see if they like a song or not.  That is basically where my question stems.

In the current day and age it is so easy to cherry-pick songs and make your own playlists and such that you can skip past songs that do not care for, and they never have to be listened to again. When I was in my early teens and grabbed the Today! album for example, songs like Please Let Me Wonder, Kiss Me Baby, and In The Back of My Mind did not immediately appeal to me as much as Good To My Baby, Help Me Ronda and Dance, Dance, Dance but since it would be the only Beach Boys album I could get my hands on for months, I listened to both sides again and again.

I found that as I grew older, I came to love the songs that I knew by heart but did not appreciate when I was younger. Sometimes for example, you have to grow into the music and experience heartbreak, then a song will click and feel like it was written to describe your personal experiences. Brian did this like no other song writer. Had I skipped past them, I would have skipped past some beautiful songs with such exquisite harmonies that are my favorite Beach Boys songs today.

The only exception for me is Let Him Run Wild. I never cared for that song no matter how many times I played it. Not sure why but I do not like the instrumental track either. Reminds me of department store music.

Thanks for this post. I read it when you posted but wanted to think about it for awhile and see how others responded. We have a similar experience getting one LP at a time, digesting it whole, not skipping cuts, and being blown away by some odd track, or banter, while wondering what it was all about when taken as-a-whole work.  I would not trade that experience, albeit on a record player and not a big stereo.  Yes, the allowance or the baby-sitting dough.  Guess that small amount of disposable income was spent wisely for vinyl that served to enrich your life.  That small amount of money, could just as easily, have gone towards something different.  

And, I can get the whole download thing.  The first one I ever downloaded was Al's Postcard in the dead of a wicked-bad winter.  Hearing Carl's voice on Don't Fight the Sea still stopped my heart.  Maybe the voice of Carl, more than whether it was analog or digital.  Mr. Desper's words are not lost on me, having seen The Boys in the analog sound era, it was amazing.  Those big speakers with that bass, could almost make your heart pound or even restart your heart, were it to stop.  

It was a more interactive experience, having to get up, after 15 minutes for another 15 or so, to flip that LP over.  I do admit that my zunes, and iPhones are loaded with scrunched-up audio files for the car.  So I guess, you can't play LP's in the car and this is the next best alternative.  Having dealt with both, and having had to learn a new skillset to use a computer to add these files on a portable device, I can see the benefits of both worlds, but even now, just the sight of an LP with the larger-than-life artwork and liner notes, is still a heart-melter.  

Add Some really gets this whole linkage between the voyage and the music. And Emdeeh, thanks for those posts, as well.  

But, ultimately I see the 60's/70's longtime fans are less likely to think of The Beach Boys as anything less than one dynamic.  And I like it that way. Almost like e pluribus unum.  "Out of many - one."  

Guy walks into a bar with a piece of asphalt under his arm and asks the bartender to get him a drink and one for the road. Another guy walks in to the same bar with jumper cables and the bartender says "you can stay, but don't try to start anything".

 

Emily - First, I've been a member of this forum for around 8 years. In 8 years, I have made 3048 posts. I have started 10 topics in 8 years. In terms of starting topics, I don't think that is excessive.  It is a little over an average of 1 thread that I started, a year.  It is not for you do assess whether I am an excessive starter of topics.

In a little under a year, you have started 16 topics.  That is an observation. You have posted 1788 times.  That is half as many as I have posted in 8 years. Last time I checked, you did not have  the term "mod" next to your name. 

Second, here are a few random phrases that I think are problematic. "That is incorrect." You are not the arbiter of correctness nor of evidence. Whether Sanders calls himself an Independent or not, he met the threshold standard of declaring himself a Dem. That is all you need plus whatever requirements are necessary. 

According to Slate.com, you file forms with the Federal Election Commission, register your (exploratory) committee as a non-profit, and at the $5,000 mark send your application form to the Federal Election Commission and Statement of Candidacy...Bernie must have fulfilled the threshold requirements for his name to appear on the ballots of the several states.

Third, what you call "crappy" sites is your opinion.  They are the meat-and-potatoes of the grassroots political world.  And in a few days you will probably see some form of the story, as an afterthought, but in a form that is "marginalized" to benefit the corporate media, but in some form, so there can be no accusation of an imbalance in the media. 

Fourth, "derailing?" That allegation is the reason that I started a new thread.  Those are real human beings, protesting, particularly the Haitians complaining of the Clinton involvement her brother has a gold mine, there are issues of election fraud, in addition to money issues.  Guess those people don't matter and their opinion doesn't matter. The First Amendment is in trouble, when their opinions don't matter nor their right to express them.

Fifth, "how people like me" - where do you get off with a comment like that? So I must be in "good company..." (or some company - maybe equally "bad" company)

Sixth, "being called a liar, etc." - you are not the arbiter of truth or falsity. FYI - the name-calling is a violation of Rules and Guidelines #2 "...when it crosses into personal attacks, it becomes a different matter...personal insults at other board members..." ("liar" is one of those name calling words.)   

"Manipulating information?" I just put it out there and people can decide or not. Perhaps you would like to "control" the flow of information.  Again a First Amendment problem.

After only starting 10 topics, in around 8 years, it seemed a really good day to start one.    

William Weld, is a dyed-in-the-wool Republican.  He is in the race as a "spoiler" in my opinion and because he is bored and wants to get back in the game. Both current parties are undergoing a revolution as to whom they stand for and for what they stand. Democrats and Republicans come in multiple varieties whether liberal, moderate or conservative or an amalgam of subgroups.  The typecast confers a connotation of inflexibility.  JMHO

Hi FdP,
I wonder if you could support these assertions:

1.   That the video you posted on pg 52 – about which you said:
after Bernie got the shaft, hundreds left the venue and it was not reported.  Some guy recorded, uploaded, commented, and now people are being bussed in to fill those seats left empty by Bernie's delegates. Nomiki Konst, a Sanders supporter and contributor to Fox, also reported seeing people bussed in to fill the seats.  In politics it is called "wallpaper."
What evidence do you have
-that the video is a representation of seats left specifically by the Sanders walk out?
-from someone other than a Sanders surrogate/supporter that people were being bussed in to fill the seats?

2.   On page 53 you make reference to the “criminality” of the DNC emails. On what basis do you make that claim?
3.   On page 53 you make your first of many references to the craigslist ad. What evidence do you have that the DNC placed that ad?
4.   On page 55 you posted a video that you claim was filmed after the Sanders walk out. The person who posted it (on the 27th) said that it was a video of the security breach (which was on the 27th). It’s pretty clear it’s the same scenes as those here (which were on the 27th): http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Protesters-Break-Through-DNC-Security-Fence-388499832.html

What evidence do you have that the video you posted was taken on the 26th, as you claimed?

5.   What’s your evidence that there was an official first ballot before the presented ballot at the Democratic Convention?
6.   On page 55 you said, " There are an equal number of Dems who are horrified at what happened at the DNC so both major parties are almost up for grabs."
What is your evidence for the claim of an “equal number”?

Hi Emily - the complaint will be litigated and you can follow that evidence trail.  I post videos to share information, not to be ripped apart because you don't agree.

Since the DNC is over, now the cover-ups, including wifi jamming of those who were outside of the "DNC Wall" where the signals improved once the telecoms were called out on Twitter, will be addressed.  Too little, too late.  Instead of a DNC issue it will be a campaign issue.


Yes, Comey conceded that there were "portions of the emails" which were "classified" - Comey is your source.  

No, the exhibit that I referred to is in the complaint to support it.  Sanders "ran" as a Dem.  He was called out by the DNC as not being a Dem.  Who cares?  Sanders met the requisite requirements to get on the ballot.  

Hillary was brought up a Republican and head of such a group in college.  She is running as a Democrat because declared herself one, and she registered, and met the requisite requirements to get on the ballot.  Bernie was disparaged as not being a "real Dem" because he was not part of their agenda.

Bernie's philosophies were attacked as not being bona fide.  Hillary's pedigree was not assaulted. And there was an agenda to only support Bernie but they took money from his contributors, who alleged they were damaged by the favoritism and lack of neutrality in the organization. Those are among the allegations in the complaint.  

The complaint alleges that there was no impartiality in the organization which is supposed to support all of their candidates who run as such.

William Weld, (a died-in-the-wool Republican) is "running" with Johnson.  He is not a Libertarian, but "running" as one, having met their ballot requirements.  

It is procedural and not substantive or philosophical alignment with party philosophy.  

Well, as you like to say, rather than supporting your assertions with arguments (which indicates to me that you don't actually believe them to be true, but you are trying to be a propagandist of the "lie until it's true" order, but why you do that here baffles me); it will be litigated. But if Sanders publicly proclaimed himself to be an independent the day he announced and hadn't modified that until after the date of the email, I think it's pretty easy for the judge to say "no case," and that you are promoting your desired outcome as fact. Of course, if the judge throws it out based on its lack of merit, you and your "underground press" will be calling it "corruption" as loudly as possible, and not noting that it's an interpretation of the evidence that one could arrive at independently.
And misleading people in that way, and the way you have tried to do in the last several pages, THAT is corrupt.

Emily - the assertions are supported but you don't care for the evidence because it does not align with your political philosophies. Not my problem.

You can say that you "think" that it is misleading but that is opinion-based and not fact-based.

It is 2 days since the close of the DNC.  Now, on the slow news day, the back-story of the lack of coverage of the participation of Sander's supporters is finally filtering out. Even Fox did a crappy job with coverage of the Bernie walkout.   The alternative sources, which, I doubt you even watched because your mind is closed to it, it "appears." The story will gain traction in the next two weeks. Even if Bernie is no longer the figurehead of this movement (whose political philosophies I disagree with) someone will keep it going.

Hillary is not running against Trump.  She is running against Julian Assange.  She is running against her lack of transparency and the corruption that caused DWS to leave at the beginning of the convention. And there is still an investigation into the Clinton Foundation.  

And, I don't appreciate being called a liar or corrupt.  We can "disagree without being disagreeable" as they teach at Harvard.  

We will all have to wait to see if the suit withstands a motion-to-dismiss in a few weeks.  I'm patient.

In the meanwhile, Haitian Immigrants protested against Hillary and Bill.  Guess they are lying, too?

https://youtu.be/-QtAhtrRA1M

https://youtu.be6ltr/6ltrRNC-_Rw

http://www.caribbean360.com/news/protests-continue-hillary-clintons-role-haiti

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/03/haitian-activists-protest-outside-of-hillary-clintons-office-over-billions-stolen-in-relief-funds-video/

Funny, that Facebook took down these activists' site.  

Hi FdP,
I wonder if you could support these assertions:

1.   That the video you posted on pg 52 – about which you said:
after Bernie got the shaft, hundreds left the venue and it was not reported.  Some guy recorded, uploaded, commented, and now people are being bussed in to fill those seats left empty by Bernie's delegates. Nomiki Konst, a Sanders supporter and contributor to Fox, also reported seeing people bussed in to fill the seats.  In politics it is called "wallpaper."
What evidence do you have
-that the video is a representation of seats left specifically by the Sanders walk out?
-from someone other than a Sanders surrogate/supporter that people were being bussed in to fill the seats?

2.   On page 53 you make reference to the “criminality” of the DNC emails. On what basis do you make that claim?
3.   On page 53 you make your first of many references to the craigslist ad. What evidence do you have that the DNC placed that ad?
4.   On page 55 you posted a video that you claim was filmed after the Sanders walk out. The person who posted it (on the 27th) said that it was a video of the security breach (which was on the 27th). It’s pretty clear it’s the same scenes as those here (which were on the 27th): http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Protesters-Break-Through-DNC-Security-Fence-388499832.html

What evidence do you have that the video you posted was taken on the 26th, as you claimed?

5.   What’s your evidence that there was an official first ballot before the presented ballot at the Democratic Convention?
6.   On page 55 you said, " There are an equal number of Dems who are horrified at what happened at the DNC so both major parties are almost up for grabs."
What is your evidence for the claim of an “equal number”?

Hi Emily - the complaint will be litigated and you can follow that evidence trail.  I post videos to share information, not to be ripped apart because you don't agree.

Since the DNC is over, now the cover-ups, including wifi jamming of those who were outside of the "DNC Wall" where the signals improved once the telecoms were called out on Twitter, will be addressed.  Too little, too late.  Instead of a DNC issue it will be a campaign issue.

Yes, Comey conceded that there were "portions of the emails" which were "classified" - Comey is your source.  

No, the exhibit that I referred to is in the complaint to support it.  Sanders "ran" as a Dem.  He was called out by the DNC as not being a Dem.  Who cares?  Sanders met the requisite requirements to get on the ballot.  

Hillary was brought up a Republican and head of such a group in college.  She is running as a Democrat because declared herself one, and she registered, and met the requisite requirements to get on the ballot.  Bernie was disparaged as not being a "real Dem" because he was not part of their agenda.

Bernie's philosophies were attacked as not being bona fide.  Hillary's pedigree was not assaulted. And there was an agenda to only support Bernie but they took money from his contributors, who alleged they were damaged by the favoritism and lack of neutrality in the organization. Those are among the allegations in the complaint.  

The complaint alleges that there was no impartiality in the organization which is supposed to support all of their candidates who run as such.

William Weld, (a died-in-the-wool Republican) is "running" with Johnson.  He is not a Libertarian, but "running" as one, having met their ballot requirements.  

It is procedural and not substantive or philosophical alignment with party philosophy.  

Mike Chernovich is an Independent News Journalist/attorney who covered DNC events this week.  He is the author/founder of Gorilla Mindset, on iTunes as a podcast. He has 10 million hits on Twitter.  Interesting background growing up bullied on welfare, later learning martial arts, and became a lawyer in California. Chernovich is discussing the under-reporting of Bernie's candidacy. He calls it "journalism about journalism."

http://youtu.be/95pjqUGZmlM - Media Bias Caught Live at DNC:  Battle of the Delegates (News Gives Clinton Delegate Coverage)

http://youtu.be/gSBp5PdB3Y - Hundreds of Sanders Mass WALK OUT At DNC And Launch Protest in Philly Streets (VIDEO)!!!!

http://youtu.be/l7svB9qEpNQ - Disaster at the DNC: Anti-Hillary Clinton Protest! Mike Chernovich









 

filledeplage is the worst thing that has ever happened to this board.

That's a tad insulting, don't you think?  Just because the poster has different political views?  This is a forum after all.  It's not all going to be one way, and to call a person "the worst thing that has ever happened to the board" just because of a difference in opinion is just plain wrong. 

Emily and I have argued a lot in The Sandbox, but I wouldn't stoop so low to insult her in this way. 

Dudejim, you're a lot more sour than sweet, and I do believe you owe filledeplage an apology. 

I sure don't. And I don't give a flying sh*t about her political views.

My problem with her is her refusal to ever give an inch regardless of any evidence. There is nobody else on the board like her, besides maybe Cam Mott. I don't know her as a person, but as a poster, she has greatly contributed to the downfall of this board as she has constantly dragged threads into the shitter with her drivel.

Have you been reading this thread at all, sourdudejim?  

filledeplage is not the only poster on here who won't give an inch.  And so far, I've not seen her post anything as disrespectful as you and some of the other posters on this board I've seen over the past few months.  

I think the key words are "regardless of any evidence."

She is posting opinions.  And anything she includes evidence, you or somebody else dismissed it as propaganda.  

So, since her opinions and views don't line up with yours, then she deserves the title of "worst thing about SSMB"?

As has been explained, her 'evidence' doesn't in any way conform to the rules of evidence. Her evidence amounts to "someone on the internet said so," which is only evidence of the fact that someone on the internet said so.
But I don't want to argue with you about this either.

Emily - we are in neither State nor Federal Court where State Rules of Evidence, are followed, or the Federal Rules of Evidence are in play.

We are on a message board.

OK. So you are using neither logic nor evidence to back up your assertions because you are on a message board. Got it.

Emily - there is a 42 page DNC complaint to read.  There are documentary evidence sources are contained within. 

Happy Friday!     

filledeplage is the worst thing that has ever happened to this board.

That's a tad insulting, don't you think?  Just because the poster has different political views?  This is a forum after all.  It's not all going to be one way, and to call a person "the worst thing that has ever happened to the board" just because of a difference in opinion is just plain wrong. 

Emily and I have argued a lot in The Sandbox, but I wouldn't stoop so low to insult her in this way. 

Dudejim, you're a lot more sour than sweet, and I do believe you owe filledeplage an apology. 

I sure don't. And I don't give a flying sh*t about her political views.

My problem with her is her refusal to ever give an inch regardless of any evidence. There is nobody else on the board like her, besides maybe Cam Mott. I don't know her as a person, but as a poster, she has greatly contributed to the downfall of this board as she has constantly dragged threads into the shitter with her drivel.

Have you been reading this thread at all, sourdudejim?  

filledeplage is not the only poster on here who won't give an inch.  And so far, I've not seen her post anything as disrespectful as you and some of the other posters on this board I've seen over the past few months.  

I think the key words are "regardless of any evidence."

She is posting opinions.  And anything she includes evidence, you or somebody else dismissed it as propaganda.  

So, since her opinions and views don't line up with yours, then she deserves the title of "worst thing about SSMB"?

As has been explained, her 'evidence' doesn't in any way conform to the rules of evidence. Her evidence amounts to "someone on the internet said so," which is only evidence of the fact that someone on the internet said so.
But I don't want to argue with you about this either.

Emily - we are in neither State nor Federal Court where State Rules of Evidence, are followed, or the Federal Rules of Evidence are in play.

We are on a message board.

I'm sorry, but I haven't reviewed this entire thread, FdP, so I'm sure you'll call me to task over some obscure detail here.  So explain to me how the Dems allowing a number of their people to express themselves, in all their frustration at not winning the primaries, are somehow diminishing Dems' values and validity.  Many horrified Repubs refused to attend this year's convention - including all the past President, so dissent wasn't visible, was it? Talk about empty seats, though - seriously empty seats!  And I couldn't think of a more dramatic statement against a Presidential candidate.  We saw lots of smoke and mirrors last week, just like everything the Donald says, or really doesn't say, because he knows frikkin' nothing but pandering to fools - certainly nothing about domestic or foreign policy.

The Democratic convention is called Democracy in action, not an embarrassment, nor a problem in the end.  That's why it's actually interesting, as opposed to another stupid reality show.

Debbie - the empty seats were the result of a Bernie delegate walkout which was hardly covered. Some videos were taken and show images of white noise machines above their seating which were installed to drown out their protests which were quite loud in opposition.   When the delegates returned they found their seats covered with "reserved" signs and were not allowed to sit where they were supposed to. The California delegation was particularly problematic to the DNC this year because of the very vocal Sanders support.  There were craigslist ads placed paying $50 a day for "actors"to fill the seats of the Sanders delegates.  

Danny Glover's interview is pretty descriptive as to the experience they had. I think the DNC was out of line to question Sanders' religious beliefs to potentially exploit them with a particular demographic.  

Yes, the Republicans are horrified because their party is over. There are an equal number of Dems who are horrified at what happened at the DNC so both major parties are almost up for grabs.  Some have jumped over parties, but are aligned more closely, or who would rather support a Dem than the Republican candidate.  And they did all sign a pledge.  

There were plenty of smoke and mirrors this week as well.  It was better than a reality show, and at least people are starting to pay attention.  

What I don't like that I heard coming from some analysts that the typical Trump voter was a male (caucasian) who did not graduate from college. Rather than looking at issues that are important, they pull out the ugly race card.  There are plenty of smart people out there who did not graduate, start or finish college and I think it is wrong to drop a label that is disparaging to a voter and find it completely elitist.  "Smart" has many faces.  Plenty of people who cannot read (dyslexic and other reasons) are pretty informed.  The college thing is not a voter requisite.  

"When the delegates returned..." Lol. They came back after their walkout and were sad their seats were taken??!! Hahahahahah.

Emily - forgive me, I explained that poorly, and clearly you have not viewed the Bernie "elected delegates" video clips.

Upon return, the designated sections had been re-assigned to "others" "acting" in a work-for-hire capacity.     

yeah I'm laughing at them coming back after their walk out.

Also, as we both know, no one was there in a "work-for-hire capacity."  Stop lying. It's not winning anyone over and it teaches people not to believe what you say even when you do tell the truth.

Emily - the craigslist hires to fill the seats, are common knowledge by now.  They could have cleaned out a couple of senior citizens facilities, fed them, and bussed them in to fill the seats.  That's the old school way.   

Wow. You didn't really go to law school, did you?

Emily - when people have nothing, they resort to insults.  And it appears you are on a roll, here.  

You have been provided links, which you choose to disparage or discredit. Your choice. Democratic operatives are afraid of losing their jobs. Others are concerned about losing government contracts if there is a shift in the power structure in DC.  

Fact is, "Demexit" is in full swing as a direct result of the DNC corruption. The lowly grassroots wiki leaks has unraveled the DNC head. More will follow as suits proceed.

As the video evidence from the Bernie eyewitnesses, is uploaded, and the DNC lawsuits proceed, the train may not be stoppable. Many young people, have become jaded as a result of the corruption they witnessed.  It was filed in Miami and alleged fraud and misrepresentation. And even if it fails, there is a paper trail to follow.

Some "alternative media sources" are cited in the complaint. So, as you dismiss them and disparage them, they are cited in the complaint.  

The DNC was anything but impartial. Exhibit 1 in the complaint, is very interesting. Interesting that the email was from May 26, 2015 in Exhibit 1 so Trump was not even an issue (he declared in June of 2015) in their planned attack on the Republicans. DNC was calculating it's strategy to advance only Hillary.  There was no room for any other potential Democratic candidates.  

http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2016/07/25/dnc-seeks-dismissal-of-lawsuit-alleging-donor-deception

The complaint.

http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/2016_0722_dnc_wilding2.pdf

This is contained within the article as a link. Hope it opens.

And Demexit.

https://twitter.com/hashtag/Demexit?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%Etfw

I'm sorry, but I haven't reviewed this entire thread, FdP, so I'm sure you'll call me to task over some obscure detail here.  So explain to me how the Dems allowing a number of their people to express themselves, in all their frustration at not winning the primaries, are somehow diminishing Dems' values and validity.  Many horrified Repubs refused to attend this year's convention - including all the past President, so dissent wasn't visible, was it? Talk about empty seats, though - seriously empty seats!  And I couldn't think of a more dramatic statement against a Presidential candidate.  We saw lots of smoke and mirrors last week, just like everything the Donald says, or really doesn't say, because he knows frikkin' nothing but pandering to fools - certainly nothing about domestic or foreign policy.

The Democratic convention is called Democracy in action, not an embarrassment, nor a problem in the end.  That's why it's actually interesting, as opposed to another stupid reality show.

Debbie - the empty seats were the result of a Bernie delegate walkout which was hardly covered. Some videos were taken and show images of white noise machines above their seating which were installed to drown out their protests which were quite loud in opposition.   When the delegates returned they found their seats covered with "reserved" signs and were not allowed to sit where they were supposed to. The California delegation was particularly problematic to the DNC this year because of the very vocal Sanders support.  There were craigslist ads placed paying $50 a day for "actors"to fill the seats of the Sanders delegates.  

Danny Glover's interview is pretty descriptive as to the experience they had. I think the DNC was out of line to question Sanders' religious beliefs to potentially exploit them with a particular demographic.  

Yes, the Republicans are horrified because their party is over. There are an equal number of Dems who are horrified at what happened at the DNC so both major parties are almost up for grabs.  Some have jumped over parties, but are aligned more closely, or who would rather support a Dem than the Republican candidate.  And they did all sign a pledge.  

There were plenty of smoke and mirrors this week as well.  It was better than a reality show, and at least people are starting to pay attention.  

What I don't like that I heard coming from some analysts that the typical Trump voter was a male (caucasian) who did not graduate from college. Rather than looking at issues that are important, they pull out the ugly race card.  There are plenty of smart people out there who did not graduate, start or finish college and I think it is wrong to drop a label that is disparaging to a voter and find it completely elitist.  "Smart" has many faces.  Plenty of people who cannot read (dyslexic and other reasons) are pretty informed.  The college thing is not a voter requisite.  

"When the delegates returned..." Lol. They came back after their walkout and were sad their seats were taken??!! Hahahahahah.

Emily - forgive me, I explained that poorly, and clearly you have not viewed the Bernie "elected delegates" video clips.

Upon return, the designated sections had been re-assigned to "others" "acting" in a work-for-hire capacity.     

yeah I'm laughing at them coming back after their walk out.

Also, as we both know, no one was there in a "work-for-hire capacity."  Stop lying. It's not winning anyone over and it teaches people not to believe what you say even when you do tell the truth.

Emily - the craigslist hires to fill the seats, are common knowledge by now.  They could have cleaned out a couple of senior citizens facilities, fed them, and bussed them in to fill the seats.  That's the old school way.   

I almost have to think you're just punking with that last post, FdP, you can't be that dishonest or that clueless. It's not possible.

Edit: it just occurred to me, because of your use of the term "underground" that maybe you think that random people posting junk on the Internet is equivalent to paper underground newspapers and that's why you give it credibility.

No, FdP. I can go on the internet right now and build a whole site around my evidence that you brainwashed Mark David Chapman to kill John Lennon. That's what you're dealing with. When you see things like the myriad junk you've posted in this thread, the first thing you do is try to learn the provenance of the information, then you check the background of the source and what their sources were. It's also a good idea to check who else is reporting it. Or check the fact-checking sites or opposing sources to see what they say about it, and weigh that. If you're only finding it on sites that obviously have no leaning towards accuracy, or if it's just on Twitter and Facebook, you don't run with it as if it's valid information.

Emily - there is some willful blindness here.  There was a first ballot early in the day and Bernie won according to some of Bernie's delegates and other sources.  A "do-over" was held when other delegates arrived later.  Your grasp of grassroots politics is weak.  If you had any political field organization skill you would know that on controversial topics there is NO mainstream media coverage. You have to start from a low, somewhat non-conventional place and build up.  You take low-level local resources or create the media yourself such as Twitter or Facebook or other social media. It can take months or years when up against powerful lobbies and other interests who write you off as a nut job as they have with Bernie.  

Facebook and Twitter, are used to disseminate information when large media is blocked (such as we saw in the Middle East when several governments were overthrown) relied on cell phones, or innovative communication techniques.  

Bernie has alleged from the outset, that the system was rigged and people blew him off as a nut job.  Now wiki-leaks (who were also called out as nut jobs) has broken out the email chain (some of them) and DWS is gonzo at the beginning of the convention.  They will not be sources such as comcast/nbc or Disney/abc.  You cannot expect that the mainstream media would pick this up.  But Facebook and Twitter and certain individuals have reported this out.  Wiki leaks is not mainstream media. But they took DWS out.

Take a look at the charter from the DNC - Art. 5 s. 4. "... the charter and bylaws of the Democratic Party requires the DNC chair to remain impartial during the primary process..." DWS did not do that.  "In the conduct and management of the affairs and procedures of the Democratic National Committee, particularly as they apply to the preparation and conduct of the Presidential nomination process, the Chairperson shall exercise impartiality and evenhandedness as between the Presidential candidates and campaigns."

http://www.inquisitr.com/3340983/the-dnc-will-die-unless-it-apologizes-immediately/  

Further down "Reich said the emails clearly show the DNC tried to sandbag Bernie's campaign." (inquisitr.com) Robert Reich, for reference, served as Labor Secretary under Bill Clinton. Professor at Harvard's Kennedy School of Government and at Brandeis.  

You are giving DWS a pass?  *** Are you excusing Hillary because of her gender?  

http://usapoliticsnow/?p=3985

Interesting campaign button slogan - "Ignoring your party's corruption is condoning it."  

Reliance on mainstream media is gullible in my opinion.  And just so we are clear, I will say it again. I have been a lifelong Dem. I don't agree with Bernie's ideology to the greater extent.  However, I voted for him because I believed his impressions of the process which is sullied.  So, substantively I am not with Sanders.  Procedurally, I agree 100% with him.  Others such as Susan Sarandon, Rosario Dawson and Danny Glover are big supporters.  Are they liars, too?

http://www.montgomerynews.com/articles/2016/07/29/montgomery_life/news/doc579a0396e76b833705627.txtviewmode=default

Sarandon's Facebook page below.

https://www.facebook.com/SusanSarandon/posts/490013164486902  

Yes, Hillary had "her night." All-star, all Hollywood theater.  Political theatre.  (I did like watching Sheila E at soundcheck!) She rocked!  

The RNC was more transparent letting Ted Cruz speak. DNC, the purported party of the people, is now the party of censorship.

Danny Glover's realnews.com interview on his Facebook page.  

https;//www.facebook.com/DannyLGlover  (theme is International Decade for People of African Descent)

You can go on their Facebook pages and call them out as liars.

  

There is willful blindness here, on your part. So, you are now saying that some select number of delegates had their own little private "first ballot"? Yeah. Actually that was the second ballot because I actually held the first ballot on my own and Meryl Streep won.
It's not a convention nominating ballot if it doesn't consist of a full convention vote.  

The problem here is not mainstream vs. not mainstream media. The problem is news media vs. random sh*t people put on the Internet. You can't seem to tell the difference. You say it yourself: "create the media yourself such as Twitter or Facebook". These are just random people, FdP. They can tweet whatever they want. It's on you to verify it before you believe it. That's the step you're missing.

And, of course, the mainstream news media has been reporting on these topics, almost incessantly. I know you're committed to all the over-the-top conspiracy theories, but go to any main media outlet, and you can find reporting on the DNC, the walk-out, the emails... Get your head out of your bomb shelter and you'll find that what you've been imagining is happening above-found is not.

In one post you manage to invoke the authority of celebrity to support your position, rather than present evidence, AND dismiss celebrity as 'political theater'. Do you even hear yourself?  

If you want to talk about the email thing, I'll talk about the email thing, but not on the basis of you quoting a bunch of other people's opinion's and linking to ridiculous websites that only print opinion and have no relationship with fact. Lay out your case and I'll let you know where it's wrong.

Emily - Susan Sarandon and Danny Glover are celebrities, also citizens and it was not hard to find them. And they lend cred to the millions of nameless Sanders supporters. They are right out there. Clearly you have not viewed what they have posted, nor that of Robert Reich, former head of the Labor Dept under Bill Clinton.  

They must all be wrong about the DNC rigging and cheating.  

There is a problem as between corporate media whose messages are managed and vetted to insure the least damage to their investors or political allies, and eyewitness citizen videos that are not professionally done and uploaded to Twitter and Facebook to raise awareness.  

So, they are to be universally discredited and disparaged as independent sources of information?      

Conspiracy theories?  Ask Snowden and Assange.  Ask Bernie. Did DWS conspire with others to shut out Bernie?  Conspiracy only means "agreement" to do something.  Did DWS agree with others to keep Bernie from becoming the nominee?  It is not a theory.  It is supported by the emails.

Oh, political theatre was more impressive at the DNC.  Ted Cruz did his thing at the RNC, but was not stopped.  

Sarandon and Glover want answers as to why Sen. Nina Turner was not permitted to speak at the convention.  

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/politics/blogs/2016/07/27/bernie-supporters-rally-former-oh-senator-turner/8739332/

And, last night, Bill needed a nap...

http://youtu.be/yPbUhcvDgCo  - last night

Both of them...at 1:35  (low energy!)

http://youtu.be/DQVgHx_cdEA

During an MLK Speech...

http:youtu.be/Duyzj6lsWs4

And a nice parody in his honor...

http://youtu.be/baUB_mrk0VU

Emails?...I understand the best (or the worst) is yet to come...




  

I'm sorry, but I haven't reviewed this entire thread, FdP, so I'm sure you'll call me to task over some obscure detail here.  So explain to me how the Dems allowing a number of their people to express themselves, in all their frustration at not winning the primaries, are somehow diminishing Dems' values and validity.  Many horrified Repubs refused to attend this year's convention - including all the past President, so dissent wasn't visible, was it? Talk about empty seats, though - seriously empty seats!  And I couldn't think of a more dramatic statement against a Presidential candidate.  We saw lots of smoke and mirrors last week, just like everything the Donald says, or really doesn't say, because he knows frikkin' nothing but pandering to fools - certainly nothing about domestic or foreign policy.

The Democratic convention is called Democracy in action, not an embarrassment, nor a problem in the end.  That's why it's actually interesting, as opposed to another stupid reality show.

Debbie - the empty seats were the result of a Bernie delegate walkout which was hardly covered. Some videos were taken and show images of white noise machines above their seating which were installed to drown out their protests which were quite loud in opposition.   When the delegates returned they found their seats covered with "reserved" signs and were not allowed to sit where they were supposed to. The California delegation was particularly problematic to the DNC this year because of the very vocal Sanders support.  There were craigslist ads placed paying $50 a day for "actors"to fill the seats of the Sanders delegates.  

Danny Glover's interview is pretty descriptive as to the experience they had. I think the DNC was out of line to question Sanders' religious beliefs to potentially exploit them with a particular demographic.  

Yes, the Republicans are horrified because their party is over. There are an equal number of Dems who are horrified at what happened at the DNC so both major parties are almost up for grabs.  Some have jumped over parties, but are aligned more closely, or who would rather support a Dem than the Republican candidate.  And they did all sign a pledge.  

There were plenty of smoke and mirrors this week as well.  It was better than a reality show, and at least people are starting to pay attention.  

What I don't like that I heard coming from some analysts that the typical Trump voter was a male (caucasian) who did not graduate from college. Rather than looking at issues that are important, they pull out the ugly race card.  There are plenty of smart people out there who did not graduate, start or finish college and I think it is wrong to drop a label that is disparaging to a voter and find it completely elitist.  "Smart" has many faces.  Plenty of people who cannot read (dyslexic and other reasons) are pretty informed.  The college thing is not a voter requisite.  

"When the delegates returned..." Lol. They came back after their walkout and were sad their seats were taken??!! Hahahahahah.

Emily - forgive me, I explained that poorly, and clearly you have not viewed the Bernie "elected delegates" video clips.

Upon return, the designated sections had been re-assigned to "others" "acting" in a work-for-hire capacity.     

filledeplage is the worst thing that has ever happened to this board.

Really?

We are in The Sandbox.  Dear.

I'm sorry, but I haven't reviewed this entire thread, FdP, so I'm sure you'll call me to task over some obscure detail here.  So explain to me how the Dems allowing a number of their people to express themselves, in all their frustration at not winning the primaries, are somehow diminishing Dems' values and validity.  Many horrified Repubs refused to attend this year's convention - including all the past President, so dissent wasn't visible, was it? Talk about empty seats, though - seriously empty seats!  And I couldn't think of a more dramatic statement against a Presidential candidate.  We saw lots of smoke and mirrors last week, just like everything the Donald says, or really doesn't say, because he knows frikkin' nothing but pandering to fools - certainly nothing about domestic or foreign policy.

The Democratic convention is called Democracy in action, not an embarrassment, nor a problem in the end.  That's why it's actually interesting, as opposed to another stupid reality show.

Debbie - the empty seats were the result of a Bernie delegate walkout which was hardly covered. Some videos were taken and show images of white noise machines above their seating which were installed to drown out their protests which were quite loud in opposition.   When the delegates returned they found their seats covered with "reserved" signs and were not allowed to sit where they were supposed to. The California delegation was particularly problematic to the DNC this year because of the very vocal Sanders support.  There were craigslist ads placed paying $50 a day for "actors"to fill the seats of the Sanders delegates.  

Danny Glover's interview is pretty descriptive as to the experience they had. I think the DNC was out of line to question Sanders' religious beliefs to potentially exploit them with a particular demographic.  

Yes, the Republicans are horrified because their party is over. There are an equal number of Dems who are horrified at what happened at the DNC so both major parties are almost up for grabs.  Some have jumped over parties, but are aligned more closely, or who would rather support a Dem than the Republican candidate.  And they did all sign a pledge.  

There were plenty of smoke and mirrors this week as well.  It was better than a reality show, and at least people are starting to pay attention.  

What I don't like that I heard coming from some analysts that the typical Trump voter was a male (caucasian) who did not graduate from college. Rather than looking at issues that are important, they pull out the ugly race card.  There are plenty of smart people out there who did not graduate, start or finish college and I think it is wrong to drop a label that is disparaging to a voter and find it completely elitist.  "Smart" has many faces.  Plenty of people who cannot read (dyslexic and other reasons) are pretty informed.  The college thing is not a voter requisite.  

I almost have to think you're just punking with that last post, FdP, you can't be that dishonest or that clueless. It's not possible.

Edit: it just occurred to me, because of your use of the term "underground" that maybe you think that random people posting junk on the Internet is equivalent to paper underground newspapers and that's why you give it credibility.

No, FdP. I can go on the internet right now and build a whole site around my evidence that you brainwashed Mark David Chapman to kill John Lennon. That's what you're dealing with. When you see things like the myriad junk you've posted in this thread, the first thing you do is try to learn the provenance of the information, then you check the background of the source and what their sources were. It's also a good idea to check who else is reporting it. Or check the fact-checking sites or opposing sources to see what they say about it, and weigh that. If you're only finding it on sites that obviously have no leaning towards accuracy, or if it's just on Twitter and Facebook, you don't run with it as if it's valid information.

Emily - there is some willful blindness here.  There was a first ballot early in the day and Bernie won according to some of Bernie's delegates and other sources.  A "do-over" was held when other delegates arrived later.  Your grasp of grassroots politics is weak.  If you had any political field organization skill you would know that on controversial topics there is NO mainstream media coverage. You have to start from a low, somewhat non-conventional place and build up.  You take low-level local resources or create the media yourself such as Twitter or Facebook or other social media. It can take months or years when up against powerful lobbies and other interests who write you off as a nut job as they have with Bernie.  

Facebook and Twitter, are used to disseminate information when large media is blocked (such as we saw in the Middle East when several governments were overthrown) relied on cell phones, or innovative communication techniques.  

Bernie has alleged from the outset, that the system was rigged and people blew him off as a nut job.  Now wiki-leaks (who were also called out as nut jobs) has broken out the email chain (some of them) and DWS is gonzo at the beginning of the convention.  They will not be sources such as comcast/nbc or Disney/abc.  You cannot expect that the mainstream media would pick this up.  But Facebook and Twitter and certain individuals have reported this out.  Wiki leaks is not mainstream media. But they took DWS out.

Take a look at the charter from the DNC - Art. 5 s. 4. "... the charter and bylaws of the Democratic Party requires the DNC chair to remain impartial during the primary process..." DWS did not do that.  "In the conduct and management of the affairs and procedures of the Democratic National Committee, particularly as they apply to the preparation and conduct of the Presidential nomination process, the Chairperson shall exercise impartiality and evenhandedness as between the Presidential candidates and campaigns."

http://www.inquisitr.com/3340983/the-dnc-will-die-unless-it-apologizes-immediately/  

Further down "Reich said the emails clearly show the DNC tried to sandbag Bernie's campaign." (inquisitr.com) Robert Reich, for reference, served as Labor Secretary under Bill Clinton. Professor at Harvard's Kennedy School of Government and at Brandeis.  

You are giving DWS a pass?  *** Are you excusing Hillary because of her gender?  

http://usapoliticsnow/?p=3985

Interesting campaign button slogan - "Ignoring your party's corruption is condoning it."  

Reliance on mainstream media is gullible in my opinion.  And just so we are clear, I will say it again. I have been a lifelong Dem. I don't agree with Bernie's ideology to the greater extent.  However, I voted for him because I believed his impressions of the process which is sullied.  So, substantively I am not with Sanders.  Procedurally, I agree 100% with him.  Others such as Susan Sarandon, Rosario Dawson and Danny Glover are big supporters.  Are they liars, too?

http://www.montgomerynews.com/articles/2016/07/29/montgomery_life/news/doc579a0396e76b833705627.txtviewmode=default

Sarandon's Facebook page below.

https://www.facebook.com/SusanSarandon/posts/490013164486902  

Yes, Hillary had "her night." All-star, all Hollywood theater.  Political theatre.  (I did like watching Sheila E at soundcheck!) She rocked!  

The RNC was more transparent letting Ted Cruz speak. DNC, the purported party of the people, is now the party of censorship.

Danny Glover's realnews.com interview on his Facebook page.  

https;//www.facebook.com/DannyLGlover  (theme is International Decade for People of African Descent)

You can go on their Facebook pages and call them out as liars.







  

What a soap opera!

Yup!  

What is a bigger soap opera than Bill Clinton telling a story of "I met a girl."

He never saw a skirt he didn't like.

Billary.  

And, this just in from the underground...reports that Bernie won on the first ballot. DNC called for a re-vote.

http://www.inquisitr.com/3357190/bernie-sanders-supporters-furious-after-delegates-reveal-sanders-won-first-roll-call-but-convention-focused-only-on-hillary/

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/07/wow-dnc-advertisers-actors-fill-seats-dnc-convention/

That website is not a news website nor a real source for news.

By its own admission, it's a right wing propaganda website.

It appears to be less fact-based than "The Onion."

Someone can go on Craigslist right now and post an ad asking for cadavers to fill the seats at a Trump rally because all of his supporters have tapeworms.

For what its worth, a far more neutral website that debunks urban legends and myths of all sorts has already addressed this Craigslist ad situation as "unproven":

http://www.snopes.com/dnc-hiring-actors-via-craigslist-to-replace-delegates/

Twitter - from the demonstration after the walkout.

https://mobile.twitter.com/UR_Ninja/status/758501291056390144/video/1

"Full scene when protesters breached DNC..."

Multiple sources (not mega media sources) reporting on this CG ad.

http://patrick.net./DNC+Advertises+for+Actors+to+Fill+Empty+Seats+at+DNC+Convention

Finding "wallpaper" (filling the seats for political events) is nothing new. The old way was to bus in senior citizens and give them coffee and donuts or lunch/dinner.  It was a day/night out, they are big voters, and a social opportunity.  

And as Lily Tomlin would say (in character) as Edith Ann, "And, that's the truth!"   (from Laugh In)

No shame.
That security breach wasn't even the same day as the sanders walkout. You've got a narrative you want to push and are posting actual lies, knowingly and repeatedly, to push that narrative.

Emily - I don't need to push any narrative.  Their nightmare story is unfolding on it's own.  These videos are manna from heaven, telling the back-story.

The DNC chair had to be "let go" during the week of the DNC convention.  They got caught red-handed advancing once candidate over another.  That is an unfolding story not a spin or a narrative.  DWS manipulated the organization for one candidate and it was never an open and transparent process.  Now, the world knows they are liars and cheats.

So, the twitter link with the demonstration of the Sanders supporters was untrue? 

The conventional media is heavily manipulated as is the DNC with the attempt to marginalize Bernie Sanders.  The alternative media must to do their job and their sources tell the story, which cannot be "managed."

https://mobile.twitter.com/hashtag/dnc/walkout

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/07/watch-bernie-sanders-stage-walkout-after-clinton-is-officially-nominated/

No one believes their garbage.  Everyone knows it is a joke. 

So why do you keep posting fabrications and manipulations of the truth (in other words, lies)?
The fact is there was a walkout of between 50-150 people who went right to the press tent and got lots of coverage and there was no violence and hubbub.

You posted a video taken at a different time showing thousands of empty seats, with the claim that those were empty because of the walk out - lie.
You posted a video of a security perimeter breach the following day claiming it was related to the walk out - lie.
You posted an Internet rumor that the DNC is looking for paid actors, claiming they are doing it to fill the sanders seats - lie.
You even admit you know that's a lie because then you talk about conventions bringing volunteers in.

If the truth is on your side, why do you feel compelled to lie? Is it just habit?

Emily - DNC is in freefall. 

Those videos tell a story.  It takes several days for the underground stuff to filter out at least and it is weighed to determine whether it will be aired or not. 

News is managed.

The empty seats, are a result of Bernie's people taking it to the streets! Whether Bernie sanctions the demonstrations or not, they have taken this into their own hands.

Personal attacks are not necessary. 

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/07/wow-dnc-advertisers-actors-fill-seats-dnc-convention/

That website is not a news website nor a real source for news.

By its own admission, it's a right wing propaganda website.

It appears to be less fact-based than "The Onion."

Someone can go on Craigslist right now and post an ad asking for cadavers to fill the seats at a Trump rally because all of his supporters have tapeworms.

For what its worth, a far more neutral website that debunks urban legends and myths of all sorts has already addressed this Craigslist ad situation as "unproven":

http://www.snopes.com/dnc-hiring-actors-via-craigslist-to-replace-delegates/

Twitter - from the demonstration after the walkout.

https://mobile.twitter.com/UR_Ninja/status/758501291056390144/video/1

"Full scene when protesters breached DNC..."

Multiple sources (not mega media sources) reporting on this CG ad.

http://patrick.net./DNC+Advertises+for+Actors+to+Fill+Empty+Seats+at+DNC+Convention

Finding "wallpaper" (filling the seats for political events) is nothing new. The old way was to bus in senior citizens and give them coffee and donuts or lunch/dinner.  It was a day/night out, they are big voters, and a social opportunity.  

And as Lily Tomlin would say (in character) as Edith Ann, "And, that's the truth!"   (from Laugh In)

No shame.
That security breach wasn't even the same day as the sanders walkout. You've got a narrative you want to push and are posting actual lies, knowingly and repeatedly, to push that narrative.

Emily - have another...