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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Did the beach boys get the shaft when it came to chart positions?
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on: January 19, 2017, 04:01:51 AM
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Out of the English speaking world, the word was that the Beach Boys had disbanded soon after 1967. The reason usually given was either the usual drug abuse or, more creatively, that their leader, Brian Wilson, had become deaf due to excessive volume of music on stage*. "I Can Hear Music" was the last time we could hear their music. * I even remember reading a related article on how bass players would be the most vulnerable to that fate.
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Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Pet Peeves
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on: January 19, 2017, 03:45:10 AM
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The point is "would of" and the like are not grammatical mistakes. They are wilful butchering of a language.
It bugs me as much as anyone, but I think one of the points is that it usually *isn't* willful. To me, a good amount of the frustration about people writing that is that they don't know they're making a mistake. I think they know, but, as they would put it, "they could care less".
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike is kind of playing the inauguration....
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on: January 19, 2017, 03:21:05 AM
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The announcement to play a gig can't even be a straightforward one. Everything surrounding this band anymore has to read like a legal document, parsing words, asterisks, "yeah...but" rebuttals. Even this, it's an inaugural celebratory event. It's politically loaded. That's how these things are. Yet the decision to play, now we have "yeah, but it's not this or that, it's independent this or that, it's not the REAL inauguration ball..." Oh, please. Keep it in the conference room, just be straight up about something for once.
Yeah, even the decision to play this week gets run through the usual ringer of parsing words, asterisks, and any attempt to avoid giving a straightforward, honest, basic answer. The band is playing the inauguration. That's it. Now they have to deal with whatever happens.
I agree 1000%, Craig. In the BB world, "legaltalk" at his worst (i.e., trying to hide the truth, defy common sense and logic, and generally treat people like idiots) has run out of control, thanks to our friend ML and his fans.
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Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Pet Peeves
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on: January 18, 2017, 04:16:58 AM
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Here's another minor peeve I was reminded of today, although it's hardly my problem, lol:
- Murray (even from long-term fans who should know better) - Rielly/Reilly/Riley/Reiley (all seen here in a single thread on Jack R!) - Anniversario (there should be one n) - Etc.
All it takes is a little care, folks.
Sorry, but "anniversario" depends on language. It's "anniversario" (so, correct) in Italian. "Aniversario" in Spanish. The seldom used but existing "anniversary" in English.
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Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Scandinavian music thread
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on: January 13, 2017, 06:24:27 PM
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Though the earlier ones aren't bad at all, I'd say that all their four latest albums are, on the whole, better: "Once" (fully symphonic metal, with a prominent role of the London Philharmonic Orchestra) , "Dark Passion Play" (more folk inspired), "Imaginaerum" (the soundtrack to an imaginary fantasy movie, which later became a real movie!), and "Endless Forms Most Beautiful" (inspired by the evolution of life on Earth). My personal favourite is "Dark Passion Play*", but it's wholly subjective. The three latter albums are Celtic-flavoured by the Uilleann Pipes and tin whistles of Troy Donockley. "Made in Hong Kong" is a good live. Though mainly metal, it's the kind of music which works surprisingly well as an alternative soundtrack to "The Lord of the Rings" and the like, and you will find a zillion videos on YouTube based on that. Who knows, maybe even good old Sibelius would have liked it...
* The title sounds like a homage to Jethro Tull, who I think inspired Nightwish a lot.
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Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Lifetime ban on AGD
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on: January 05, 2017, 08:17:44 AM
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What the "Kokomaoist" faction was and is up to (trying to rewrite Beach Boys history, at all costs) has ALWAYS been obvious. What's surprising are the extremes to which this agenda has been brought by some of them. This is one of those cases when reality surpasses imagination by many miles.
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Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: This Board
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on: December 29, 2016, 11:05:43 AM
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I took the idea from a wrestling blog I go to, where "Chris Benoit" has been filtered to "Voldemort" since 2007. I didn't get the joke until I actually saw the Harry Potter movies a couple of years ago (yes, I'm late)
You're earlier than me. I don't plan to see them, period. We took a trip on an old steam train in Scotland last year. Apparently it passed through an area where they filmed Harry Potter stuff. At one point there was an announcement: "Soon we will be passing an island that was Dumbledore's last resting place!" Fair play. Fabulous scenery though... I have no great love for the franchise, but imho the "Prisoner of Azkaban" movie is a masterpiece, thanks to the director, the great Alfonso Cuaron, and the supporting actors: Alan Rickman ( ) as Severus Snape, Gary Oldman as Sirius Black, and David Thewlis as Remus Lupin are unforgettable. I'd even say "Azkaban" is my fav fantasy movie ever. Of course, J. K. Rowling HAD to unceremoniously kill off all three of them in the subsequent stories...
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Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: This Board
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on: December 29, 2016, 10:58:25 AM
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Wow, this thread has surely gone places, several of them. However, nobody should be banned, nor even get a warning, for what happened here. Consistent trolling is one thing; sincere heated debate is altogether different, even when it degenerates into occasional name calling. I think it's good for the board to have such a free-for-all now and then.
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Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: This Board
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on: December 29, 2016, 04:10:50 AM
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Damn, all I was trying to do was suggest a way that I thought the board could improve. I didn't think it would turn into such a big thing.
Ringo, this is nothing. You should have seen what happened when, in the Blueboard, Craig (GuitarFool) asked members for ideas about improving the board and I was foolish enough to suggest a restructuring where the "Battle of the Bands" would be in the Off-topic section, albeit immediately accessible all the same. Though I immediately posted a correction where the BotB was restored to "first-class" state, I was "scolded*" in such a way that I took a temporary leave from the board. I guess someone there will never forgive me. So, by my experience you are walking on eggs whenever you suggest changes to a board. People tend to get quite passionate about such matters. * Not by Craig, of course.
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Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Pet Peeves
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on: December 29, 2016, 03:27:24 AM
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One of my pet peeves is very on-topic in this board: the idea that artistic value is somehow linked to commercial success, when it should be obvious to everybody that they are totally independent variables. Anything can be successful with or without artistic value, ditto unsuccessful.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Did Van Dyke Parks write all of the lyrics on Smile?
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on: December 29, 2016, 02:35:59 AM
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Respectfully, this is where I miss most the old Smile Shop. I remember some stellar threads with in-depth analysis of the Smile lyrics. That was when nobody would have considered "Surf's Up" too obscure (it's called poetry, folks; when everybody can understand all of it at first read, it's usually called prose). It was brilliant stuff, and I wish I had saved it somewhere.
Sorry, and back on topic. My take is that in this case the credits are correct. For all songs where VDP's name appears, lyrics are typical of his style, stratified, rich in wordplay and cultural references (though I'm sure that Brian had significant input on the subject matter). For Wind Chimes, I agree with Sound of Free that lyrics are typically "Brian", emotional and to the point, with no wordplay but effective imagery. Brian is a much better lyricist than he gets credit for.
I think "Mahalo lu lei" (which, by the way, is not gibberish: it was actually translated) was a Brian/VDP collaboration.
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Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: This Board is Entering a Death Spiral
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on: December 28, 2016, 11:29:38 AM
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I am against all kinds of censorship on post content, as long it's civil. Obvious excesses, bullying and trolling are another thing, but the moderators have shown that they can handle that kind of problem. If this board has survived years of Brian vs Mike, it can survive discussions about Trump, as long as they are in the aptly-named Sandbox. If someone writes only (civil) political posts in the Sandbox, why shouldn't they be allowed to? One can simply skip over those.
Different is hijacking threads to turn them to politics: that should be a no-no.
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