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126  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: Beach Boys Survivor #35 Final Round: That's Why God Made the Radio on: May 31, 2014, 11:17:12 PM
Thanks G42. I'll have to locate that issue. Smiley
Think nothing of it. Happy to help. Smiley
127  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: Beach Boys Survivor #35 Final Round: That's Why God Made the Radio on: May 31, 2014, 10:35:07 PM
Which lyric was inspired by his last conversation with Carl? That's something I hadn't heard before.
Unless I'm remembering it incorrectly, I believe one of the articles published around the time of TWGMTR's release mentioned that the lyric "It’s time to go/I’m thinking maybe I’ll just stay" was born of one of their final exchanges.

I wish I could link you to a source, but I can't recall exactly where we heard it.  Anyway, the gist was, there was a conversation which acknowledged that Carl's time was short, with Brian coming to terms with being the last Wilson brother left and finding the strength to carry on.

Edit:  I did some digging.  Jason Fine's "The Fragile Beach Boys Reunion" article.  Rolling Stone June 21, 2012 issue, pg. 57.  Charlie Sheen cover.

"The final segment of the suite, "Summer's Gone," started from a conversation Wilson had with his brother Carl shortly before he died.  (Wilson's mother had passed away two months earlier, and Brian was dealing with the fact that he might end up the last surviving member of the Wilson family.)

According to Thomas, Carl had planned to record a song for Imagination.  But when Brian visited, Carl told him "You know, Brian, I'm not going to be able to make it."  Brian's response was unusual.  "He told me his last words to Carl were 'I think I'm going to stay for a while.'"  says Thomas.  "I mean, what a weird and emotional thing to say: 'I know you've got to go, but I'm gonna stay for a while.'"

Edit 2:  Looks as though even while the cover states "The Fragile Beach Boys Reunion," the article is actually called "The Beach Boys' Last Wave."

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/the-beach-boys-last-wave-20120621

Apologies for any confusion.
128  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: Beach Boys Survivor #35 Final Round: That's Why God Made the Radio on: May 31, 2014, 03:15:53 PM
Summer's Gone's emotion sounds a bit phoned in, put on for the sake of having a dramatic finale for the comeback album to appease critics.
I get where you're coming from and if I hadn't read about both Brian's coming to terms with turning seventy years old (wondering to himself where the time went) and deciding to include a snippet of his last conversation with his dying brother in the lyric, I may have agreed.

But seeing as I did read all about that (and seeing as I'm willing to give Brian the benefit of the doubt that all of that is true), I have to conclude that "Summer's Gone" is absolutely heartfelt.

But I shouldn't stray too far off-topic.  I already cast my vote (and besides, no one is going to blame you for voting FTtBA). Smiley
129  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: Beach Boys Survivor #35 Final Round: That's Why God Made the Radio on: May 30, 2014, 07:19:03 PM
"From There to Back Again" is absolutely wonderful and may well be the best composition on the LP.

But "Summer's Gone" is my absolute favorite and is the best at giving me that deep, visceral experience of connection and longing that very good art engenders.

"Summer's Gone," it is.
130  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brother Re-Issues: Proposed Bonus Tracks on: May 26, 2014, 05:15:24 PM
Next, the jewel case inserts themselves exactly resemble those of the TDK CD-R brand, which were last made roughly 10 years ago, with each CD-R and insert sold individually in jewel cases.  One side said "Title" and had exactly 22 lines, as do yours (when shown fully, which I think only applies to your first scan or photo) and the other side was in full color with no lines or space for writing.  

Aha !  Knew I'd read this in the thread somewhere. The discs themselves would seem to be at least ten years old (and to forestall the obvious question/objection, anyone here got any 10-year-old unused CDRs ? Thought not). So, maybe my mad musing isn't that mad after all. As Holmes once observed, once you have eliminated the impossible whatever remains, however unlikely, must be the truth.
I do. Still believe you're right, though.

Carry on.
Believe it, or no, I do, as well.  Razz  Left-overs from printing up a CD my band had put together.
131  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: Beach Boys Survivor #35: That's Why God Made the Radio on: May 20, 2014, 04:52:45 PM
"Spring Vacation," please.
132  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: seltaeb1012002's Stereo Remixes Thread (update: Wouldn't It Be Nice) on: May 17, 2014, 09:04:25 AM
Hey, that's a nice final result there, seltaeb.

Thanks for sharing!
133  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian's next tour should be with.... on: May 17, 2014, 08:50:43 AM
Straight from the heart?  The Beach Boys.

I'm sorry, I know that's probably not what the OP meant by "Brian's next tour should be with....," but darn it if this isn't the first thought that enters my mind (and the only collaboration that really, truly excites me).

It's nearly summer time.  As much as I love Brian Wilson as an act all on his own, it's that time of year again where my thoughts turn to the 'Boys, and I just can't help it.
134  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: Beach Boys Survivor #35: That's Why God Made the Radio on: May 15, 2014, 10:52:53 AM
"Shelter"
135  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Al joining Mike and Bruce for Jones Beach show on: May 15, 2014, 10:38:09 AM
Yep, I was going to point out that the RS article confirms David Marks for the Jones Beach engagement, as well, but Eric beat me to the punch.  This sounds like it will be a terrific show for anyone who can make it!

So really, all we need is Brian now and I'll be an embarrassment of riches.  Even if it's only for a one-off show with everyone together, it would be nice (and I'll keep pushing my idea for a luxurious, pull out all of the stops super show like the C50 RAH show, this time, in the tropical climes of Hawaii).

Better yet, get them all together in a studio again for an album, and it will be paradise.
136  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Al Jardine's opposition to Somewhere Near Japan on: April 15, 2014, 05:46:47 AM
But just think about it, for a minute, that when people take drugs, they insert the needle little-by-little, right? Not fast, or it would be an overdose. And after, they start feeling fine. Idk, I think this theory makes perfect sense.
No.  The "speed" at which one injects themselves has nothing to do with potentially overdosing.

One slides the needle into a satisfactory vein (as long as you've a new, sharp needle, it's like a hot knife through butter, no "little-by-little" about it), pulls back on the stopper to confirm that you're in (if the part of the syringe filled with the dope is then flooded with blood, you're good), and then one pushes it all in.  As long as one finds a workable vein, the process is a very fast one, indeed.

Incidentally, I'm actually reminded more of this specific phenomena during "Hey Jude" ("let it out and let it in"), but I digress.

Yes, I was guilty of making some very poor choices during my teen years.

137  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Another C50 Movie Proposal? on: April 08, 2014, 07:54:35 PM
Some gorgeous shots here.  Just beautiful to look at.

Gosh, what a terrific film could be made out of the best of the C50 footage.
138  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: More About Brian/ Beck and New Album. on: April 06, 2014, 04:47:01 PM
New pic: Brian recording a bass track.


Aw, that's great.

Short of including Mike and Bruce and calling it a Beach Boys release, the folks in charge of putting together Brian's new album have done everything I could have hoped for with this project.

From talk of considering numbers from the suite to including both key contributors from BB history and top-notch studio musicians, everything has looked really promising to me.  Now we have a picture which seems to show Brian recording bass tracks!  The one thing I wished for TWGMTR that just never came to pass was more instrumental input from the 'Boys (Brian, in particular).

If someone would have said Brian would be contributing instrumental tracks to this new album, I would have bet dollars-to-donuts that it would have been on the keys (and I hope he does that, too).  I don't think I ever would have bought that he'd be playing bass on the album.  If this photo really is legit, let us hope that his playing winds up on the final masters.
139  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mixing Smile Sessions Tracks with BWPS Tracks on: April 03, 2014, 04:27:34 PM
I personally think that by taking a bit of both historical and musical interests into account, Smile opens best with "Our Prayer" > "Heroes and Villains."  Try as I might to get into it, I agree with buddhahat - including "Gee" just feels like one too many intros.

That said, the first time I saw someone suggest playing "Prayer" into "Good Vibrations" (I think it was somebody on this very forum, in fact), I decided to give it a shot.  Wow!  When the fading angelic strains of "Prayer" are met with Carl's breathless "I..." and the keys at the start of "Vibes"?  Well, it's simply beautiful.
140  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What If Paradox on: March 26, 2014, 07:08:52 AM
So this is pretty much the most pointless thread ever

I thought this one was:   Here's a SMiLE Rearrangement Ive been working on. Feedback appreciated.
Yep, that one was much, much worse.  LOL
141  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Songs that may or may not exist.... on: March 24, 2014, 06:16:45 PM
What about the version of "Oh Lord" that was apparently recorded, or at least attempted, for the 1985 album?
Yeah, what about that?  I know I've asked before around these parts for some elaboration on this -- anything -- but no one has ever uttered a word.
142  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Has anyone met Brian Wilson? on: March 23, 2014, 01:24:01 PM
Well it's our lucky day, cause I just realized that I posted that song as well on MySpace all these years ago hah!  It's a poppy-er tune with some nice lady-bgv's mixed in--good stuff: https://myspace.com/sundaysocialmusic/music/song/al-bell-23002310-22803495  Smiley
Outstanding!  What a fun tune.  You should tell your Dad that you've been spreading the Gospel of Sunday Social.  :D

"Alexander Bell I thank you for taking the time for inventing the line, so I can put the call through to my baby to tell her I'm wrong, it won't be long till I'm home."

Man, Bell Systems should have been using that hook for their jingles back in the day!  Catchy as all get-out.  "Reach out and touch someone," my arse!
143  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Has anyone met Brian Wilson? on: March 20, 2014, 06:22:57 AM
(I posted the single on MySpace back when MySpace was cool.  My dad's playing rhythm guitar; I think the song is pretty great: https://myspace.com/sundaysocialmusic/music/song/too-heavy-to-carry-23002308-22803493)
That was nice.  A bit of a surprise swing in the chorus, there, too.   Cool Guy

Is your Dad one of the fellas in the picture, then?

My dad's the one on the left. Smiley  I believe he did some bgv's on the track, too.  Evidently David Sandler really liked their vocal blend, so he had them record as the backup band & bgv's (the lead vocal was by some other artist) for a song he wrote called "Alexander Bell".  (It was a love song called about the telephone lol: "Alexander Bell I thank you for taking the time for inventing the line, so I can put the call through to my baby to tell her I'm wrong, it won't be long till I'm home...")
That's awesome.  Now I want to hear "Alexander Bell."  Smiley
144  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Has anyone met Brian Wilson? on: March 19, 2014, 02:38:09 AM
(I posted the single on MySpace back when MySpace was cool.  My dad's playing rhythm guitar; I think the song is pretty great: https://myspace.com/sundaysocialmusic/music/song/too-heavy-to-carry-23002308-22803493)
That was nice.  A bit of a surprise swing in the chorus, there, too.   Cool Guy

Is your Dad one of the fellas in the picture, then?


Oh, and I've never met Brian, but I really enjoyed seeing him live with the 'Boys during C50!  If I ever had the opportunity, I'd love to play music with him some day.
145  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Who's sick to death of hearing about the beatles....!? on: February 13, 2014, 07:42:20 AM
@guitarfool2002 - Hear! Hear!

Sick of hearing about the Beatles, the greatness of their music and contributions?  Me?

Never.  Not even for a moment.


Don't get me wrong, I love the Beach Boys, and I understand Beach Boys fans on a Beach Boys forum wanting to celebrate the sublime music and cultural impact of their own that the 'Boys made.  There's not a thing in the world wrong with that, and I share in the celebration with you.  The Beach Boys and their fans have no reason to feel any sense of inferiority when it comes to The Beatles, or any other artist.  But honestly, sometimes some people spout things which just sound like sour grapes to me.  I mean, I don't recall any fans in the Beatlefan community bemoaning Brian Wilson's well-deserved awards and accolades over the past fifteen years, or so, and any who may have would have been wrong in doing so.

You know, the two bands share in many of the same wondrous phenomena.  For example, The Beatles broke up in Sept. '69 (don't believe that April 1970 jazz), a full six+ years before I was even born.  They are by no means a product on my generation, yet I (and many my age) have loved them all my life, and like no other artist I've ever experienced.  Now my young daughter is catching the bug, too.  That's something very rare and special in and of itself, but as everyone here knows, The Beach Boys themselves can claim a similar kind of continued relevance.

That said, there's no vast conspiracy by the Western World to hold The Beatles up and shower them with accolades for which they are undeserving.  The attention is by no means unwarranted.  There's a reason The Beatles are celebrated in the manner they are, by the number of people they are.  AllMusic puts it succinctly enough: "[The Beatles] were among the few artists of any discipline that were simultaneously the best at what they did and the most popular at what they did."  And that doesn't even begin to touch upon the cultural impact the band left on virtually every member of it's entire generation.

Besides, folks, all too soon, the surviving members of both groups will be gone from this earth, and these type of celebrations will largely be a thing of the past.  I say we share in the reverie and love while we all still can.
146  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New Beach Boys book in 2015? on: January 17, 2014, 10:01:23 PM
Amp = ampersand. This: &.

Fair enough.  Whats >> Cb <<
Chord book?
147  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys On Simpsons on: December 22, 2013, 05:58:41 AM
I don't remember Good Vibes though, anyone know what episode that was?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KweHR08S_g

:14 - 1:07

I don't remember if there was any other use of GV in the series (and yeah, "All Summer Long" was great on the show).
148  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian with Jeff Beck Fall Tour Dates on: October 13, 2013, 04:08:19 PM
Any chance you taped the mystery number?

Nah sorry, I didn't record anything, I was pretty caught up in the show, I didn't feel like taking out my phone.  It was a pretty intimate venue so I was able to get really into it, Brian was literally 20 feet away from me, it was a great seat.
Hey, you can't fault a guy for trying, right?

Anyway, it sounds as if you had an awesome time!   Thumbs Up
149  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian with Jeff Beck Fall Tour Dates on: October 12, 2013, 09:08:46 PM
After "Surf's Up," both bands played a song that I'm going to assume is new, I certainly didn't recognize it as anything but I could be wrong.  It was another one with Beck on melody with Brian and his band on backing vocals.  They didn't announce it as new but like I said, it was nothing I've heard before and it was pretty awesome.
Thanks for the update.  The show sounds like it's pretty great!

Any chance you taped the mystery number?
150  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Lest we forget - 47 years ago today... on: October 11, 2013, 08:44:01 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8rd53WuojE

Does it get any better than this ? Honestly ?

No sir, it does not.
I love this footage so very much.  In fact, I downright treasure it!

The only thing in a similar (albeit entirely hypothetical) vein I think I could ever appreciate more would be film of the Beatles recording "Strawberry Fields Forever" in Abbey Road, but that's neither here nor there.

From where I stand, for the purposes of the Beach Boys, the uncovering of these particular moving pictures was tantamount to unearthing the Holy Grail.  Bonus points for the way in which the band utilized the footage during the live renditions of "Good Vibrations" on the C50 tour, as well.

Not that anyone asked, but as a personal aside, Andrew, I have to say that I really like this side of you - the fan coming out of you.  It's much more endearing than that 'crotchety old man with a hard-on for correcting people' act you like to put on.  :D

Yes, you're much more charming this way, methinks.
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