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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Carl Wilson Rickenbacker Poster on: May 12, 2017, 11:27:00 AM
How about the actual Carl Wilson signature model Rickenbacker guitar? I could use a couple of those if you have extras to spare. Thanks.
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Wishes for Beach Boys 2017 on: January 08, 2017, 08:45:57 AM
I wish that either the Beach Boys or Brian's or even Al's next album were produced by Jason Lytle of Grandaddy.

https://youtu.be/d17l9PJYwZM?list=PLXjclVOWaN7Xf11NULWHvm7LS54b42HAz

I wish 1967 Brian Wilson and 1997 Jason Lytle could collaborate.  Still holding out for this new Grandaddy record coming out in a couple months.
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: good vibrations Poster on: October 08, 2016, 10:28:58 AM
Too San Francisco to be beach boys  Grin
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Regarding Here Comes The Night on: September 28, 2016, 10:55:48 PM
The Wild Honey version, the original version is great. As for the disco version, I guess I just wasn't made for these times.
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The \ on: September 13, 2016, 11:13:18 PM
True confession:
Barnyard is my favorite!

Any version. The demo on the documentary soundtrack. The versions on the bootlegs. And definitely the official Smile sessions version. I love that song.
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What is your favorite Beach Boys Album and Song at the moment? on: July 29, 2016, 09:46:50 AM

Fav Album: Wild Honey. Such a great, high energy album which is SO underrated. My second fav album behind Smile.


I must say, I completely agree with you on this. It took me almost 20 years to come to this, but I'm so glad I did. It's a rare moment. It feels very spontaneous, young, and scrappy. I love how lo-fi it is.  Great songs.
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Do 'Older' Beach Boys Fans Appreciate Their Music Differently? on: July 29, 2016, 09:44:42 AM
When I first started reading Beach Boy album reviews back in the 90s, or even books about the band, it seemed there is as little respect for Smiley Smile, Friends and Love You. It seems the appreciation for these 3 albums have significantly improved in the last 20 years. Has anyone else noticed this or is it just me?
I agree. When I first started hearing about the Beach Boys as a serious band beyond the Full House and soundtrack to Sunkist soda commercials, it was always only about Pet Sounds.
I was so happy to discover Smile, then Friends, then Love You.  Funny, later I tracked back to Wild Honey
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Adult Child on: July 06, 2016, 07:38:37 AM
What's the official track list?

Side A:
1. Life is for the Living
2. Hey Little Tomboy
3. Deep Purple
4. HELP is on the Way
5. It's Over Now
6. Everybody Wants to Live

Side B:
1. Shortenin' Bread
2. Lines
3. On Broadway
4. Games Two Can Play
5. It's Trying to Say
6. Still I Dream of It



Thanks. I love Life is for the Living, Lines, and It's Trying to Say. Otherwise some filler in there.
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Do 'Older' Beach Boys Fans Appreciate Their Music Differently? on: July 06, 2016, 07:36:31 AM
I guess I would be a 'younger' fan having been born in 1977. It seems to me that my generation has a deeper appreciation for albums like Friends and Love You, for example than the past generations did. Not to speak for any individual, because most people in any generation like the hits mainly and maybe Pet Sounds and that's all they know. But I wonder if the 67-73 material got lost in the context in what was considered hip at the time, where later we can look back at them and see their brilliance. Actually, it appears they began to get that respect in 71, but only lasted a few years because of the success of Endless Summer.

I agree. I was also born in 1977 and love Friends.
I find I'm not as worried about dissecting he controversial lyrics of songs like little tomboy because who cares. Also, the choppy/unfinished nature of Smile appeals to my sensibilities and helps elevate it to something way more interesting than Pet Sounds.
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Are We Skewing The Meaning of (Beach Boys) Songs? on: June 27, 2016, 10:48:57 PM
Even beloved mainstream artists such as David Bowie and Prince regularly challenge audiences.
The Beach Boys should abolutely not be limited to being the Leave it to Beaver of rock and roll.
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Are We Skewing The Meaning of (Beach Boys) Songs? on: June 27, 2016, 06:28:15 PM
I listen to modern music with creepy lyrics.
It's no big deal.

Maybe Ariel Pink would really scare this pack of wimps.
 Cheesy

In my opinion Kokomo is way creepier than Roller Skating Child or Lazy Lizzie
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Adult Child on: June 20, 2016, 06:41:18 PM
What's the official track list?
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: May 15, 2016, 04:22:03 PM


Good work.
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Guilty pleasure Beach Boys songs on: May 15, 2016, 03:56:57 PM
My Beach Boys guilty pleasure is It's OK.

California Feelin = no guilt. That weird old mix with the full band, synth high in the mix is amazing!
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: My Ultimate Theory about Smile and the Beach Boys on: May 15, 2016, 03:54:19 PM
Smile sucks. When you get right down to it, it's just not that enjoyable to listen to. The material has never been presented in anything more than a barely adequate way. I have listened to every fragment a million times, and truth be told, most of them aren't really listenable in any meaningful sense. Many of the experiments are utter failures, despite their nigh mythical status.

To each his own. I find no common ground with you in regards to your dislike of Smile, feeling it equals and even surpasses the mythical status afforded it over the years. Every once in a while a contrarian view resonates with me, but this isn't one of those times. I agree with Henry Rollins, who said that Smile is so "astonishingly good you might find yourself just staring at your speakers in unguarded wonder, as I have." I am sad for people that can't see the beauty and greatness in songs like Our Prayer, Heroes and Villains, Do You Like Worms, Cabin Essence, Wonderful, Child is Father of the Man, Surf's Up, Vegetables, Wind Chimes, Love to Say Dada, or Good Vibrations. I also don't believe for a second that Brian was a puppet of any sort, or kowtowing to the "in" crowd. I think Brian cared far more about the music than the motley crue.

Well said.
Been listening to versions of Smile regularly for 20+ years and it still blows my mind every time. To me it's a miracle. Never gets old.
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: All I Wanna Do: Appreciation on: May 15, 2016, 03:00:26 PM
Great song.
All I Wanna Do >> All I Want To Do
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: what song is it? on: May 02, 2016, 12:41:49 PM

"Rock and Roll Woman" would fit the bill, but that's from "An American Band."
right. Got my beach boys documentaries mixed up in my head.
I'm now finding youtube clips.
thank you
 Smiley
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: what song is it? on: May 02, 2016, 12:39:13 PM
rock and roll woman ?

this is it.
many thanks!



(Of course I already know loop de loop) I couldn't understand any of the words to type in to google!
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / what song is it? on: May 02, 2016, 12:10:04 PM
hello.
please indulge my laziness and show off your beach boys knowledge.

In the Endless Summer documentary, there is a clip of the beach boys playing live in Europe in the late 60s. What song is that? I haven't seen it in a while, but if I recall correctly, it's an upbeat song, Carl is on lead vocals strumming an acoustic guitar or clean electric guitar. Such a good song. I've been waiting to come across it somewhere but still haven't.
Is it a cover?
Can you direct me to a full length beach boys recording of the song?
Many thanks.
20  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Ariel Pink on: March 15, 2015, 11:04:17 PM
I registered on this board just so I could reply to this thread.  Grin

I have been a big fan of both Ariel Pink and the Beach Boys for years so I was very happy to see this thread on here.
I have seen both Ariel Pink and Brian Wilson perform live. I listen to their music on a regular basis, especially lately.  On a recent trip to Los Angeles, they provided the soundtrack of me driving between taco shops and cups of coffee.

There are some major generational, stylistic, and conceptual differences between these artists, but I make a direct connection between the two and like them for a lot of the same reasons.

There is a direct lineage of a certain type of California creative rock-n-roll songwriting musician that Starts with Brian Wilson and goes through people like Beck and bands like Pavement, but more specifically to what Jason Lytle was trying to do with Grandaddy and what Ariel Pink has been doing more recently.

Ariel Pink is more shocking pop-culture focused, and overtly borrows sounds and musical passages from the works of others. He gets compared to Frank Zappa for his humor and wacky songs. In his early lo-fi bedroom recording days, there wasn't much of a comparison between him and Brian Wilson. However, he has evolved. He's been doing this for 20 years and a few albums ago, when he made the leap from cassette four-track to studio recordings, his production skyrocketed.

There is more to Ariel Pink than gets conveyed by the pitchfork articles that focus on his controversial twitter posts mocking madonna. He's a pop savant with an amazing ear for melody and arrangement. His work continues to get richer with each release. It's rare for someone in the indie rock world to keep putting out such vital music without leaning on their own cliches.
I was a huge fan of Grandaddy since before they ever put out an album. Jason Lytle fancied himself a Jeff Lynne/Brian Wilson type creator of studio albums. He tried his best with The Sophtware Slump, but ran out of steam. Since then, he's unfortunately recycled the same harmonies, stock chord changes, and synth sound effects.
Luckily, down in LA, some obsessive force has driven a trashy art dude with a very different image to continue on this tradition with unyielding focus and drive.

If you can look past the schtick, his instinct for composition, arrangement, and melody shows a level of brilliance that very few people in the modern rock-n-roll world can touch. Ariel Pink has a huge pop music vocabulary at his command and somehow uses it in ways that are always distinctly his own, no matter who he is stealing from. 

Picture Me Gone off PomPom has a distinctly later Brian Wilson vocal melody.
My favorite Ariel Pink Beach Boys reference is the ultra lo-fi absurd track Schnitzel Boogie off Mature Themes. The long outro which hauntingly repeats "schnitzel!" over and over bothered a friend of mine for being obnoxious, but I heard it as a direct nod to the beach boys. He just managed to absurdly squeeze it in there in a most unexpected way that would obviously not appeal to a traditional/conventional beach boys fan.  It's like Brian Wilson's never ending Shortnin' Bread. He lets the unhinged madness have it's own moment.

To paraphrase something a good friend of mine recently said, Brian Wilson and Ariel Pink are both brilliant, emotionally unstable, introverted California guys who spend a lot of time in the recording studio to make really great albums.
What they have in common with me is that I never get tired of listening to their albums. They put me in a good mood. They are dreamers and they share the ability to transmit a sense of wonder in the musical universe they create in their songs and on their albums.
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