"Van Dyke Parks: I've thought about it. Still, there's something highly co-optive about it. Most autobiography by celebs in the music racket draw a pretty thin line between fact and fiction. Consider this possible entry:

"........so, I was at lunch one day with Barry Gordy Jr. It was my treat.
I liked the guy. So I said to Barry
'....no Barry, not MOTOR TOWN RECORDS.....call it MOTOWN RECORDS.....
Easier to pronounce.....good ad-speak.'
Barry turned to me, astonished. He said:
'....gee Van Dyke....that's brilliant....can I use it?'
I said 'Sure Barry, no prob. Be my guest'."
The rest is history.

The foregoing, just a sample of the incredible challenge i'd have in writing a plausible rear view for the public.

All my best wishes to you Jerry. Thanks for including me. Much fun."

 

john lennon met up with elton john on stage at MSG in 1974 and i believe assisted with three songs one being "lucy in the sky...", with this in mind does anyone have any video footage / audio boots of this that they wouldn't mind linking / uploading?

thanks,
martin

Smile Sessions?  I haven't heard of any developments on that front....

 

oh well, good luck with the rest of the site.

i assume you mean legal developments so with that said anything exciting happening with the listening and organization going on with the smile tapes or have you not even touched them as of yet?

Medical staff?

oh it is just a little jab, the guy doesnt seem all there most of the time so i assume he has a small group of people who pitch him ideas or to help the decision making process move more quickly.

assuming this turns out to be some massive online catalog that allows you to pick and choose whatever you want for a price will smile be a part of that?

does brian and his medical staff have the end all say all final word on any possible vintage smile session release or can he be out voted on releasing locked up material from that project?

alan (or anyone really) assuming the smile sessions will be released through the bb central project is their any reason to assume that we will be hearing anything new? i'm assuming we're at the brick wall so to speak with hearing vintage smile sessions and any future official release through this project will just be better quality mixes that are superior to the vast bootleg collection that is available.

alan are you guys going outside of the vaults to look for bb material? hopefully you have some sort of sting operation plan in order for getting after the durrie parks tapes. hopefully before i die, i will get a chance to listen to whatever she has had tucked away for all these years.

secondly, was the child chant re-recorded for the SU tag or was the "cha cha...father of the man" part just mixed amongst the newly recorded stuff.

I'm obviously not AGD, but the "Child" reprise in Surf's Up must have been re-recorded for Surf's Up because the chords are different.
 

still hoping to see a better child mix leak out one day because the common booted ones are pretty dull imo.

Here here.  There's got to be a better sounding version somewhere.  I sure wish that someone would dig up a version with lead vocals, although probably unlikely.

lead vocals wont happen, if they existed on tape somewhere at this point someone would have heard it/booted it/discussed the fact that it existed. i honestly just want a better quality child chant / track and i assume under lock and key somewhere is something better than what we have.

andrew is this something that was played for you or is it something that you literally have? not on secret smile? i'd look but my laptop is fried and my music collection is currently backed up on my ipod in data form only. secondly, was the child chant re-recorded for the SU tag or was the "cha cha...father of the man" part just mixed amongst the newly recorded stuff. it'd be pretty cool if that was taken from original smile tapes that have never come out but i doubt that is the case. still hoping to see a better child mix leak out one day because the common booted ones are pretty dull imo.

never seen it, tried youtube a while back with no luck.

hello, long time reader of this and the smile shop but i stopped posting pretty much after the bored split...

i was reading through the badman book and i was going through the bit about re-creating surfs up and it states the 71 versions ending section is "based on the "CITFOTM" recording of December 2nd 1966." and after looking through my bootleg collection i could only find some child stuff from december 6th labeled "02 Child Is Father Of The Man (mono mix) 12-6-66" 1:55 "03 Child Is Father Of The Man (alternate stereo mix) 12-6-66" 1:37. both of these are from a massive collection i downloaded a while back that supposedly had everything in chronological order. am i missing something from my collection or has the 12/2 session never been booted? i never really payed much attention to exact dates in terms of booted stuff and the exact session they came out of, please tell me if im not seeing something or if i have made an error in thinking somewhere !



"Child Is The Father Of The Man" 10/7, 10/12, 12/2, 12/6 1966 Unknown whether lead vocal was completed. Additional sections recorded but not used in final mix. " - taken from the smile shops sessionography page.


thanks for any help !
zacc m