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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Documentary! on: May 28, 2024, 10:09:02 PM
The one sound bite from Paul McCartney talking about Pet Sounds (the quote was from David Leaf’s interview with McCartney for the first Pet Sounds CD) sounded particularly egregious in the AI department.

That McCartney clip sounds so bizarre.  It might be AI, but if it is, then whoever coded that AI algorithm should be fired.  It sounds almost nothing like Macca.  Dana Carvey does a better impression of Paul than that.   Does anyone remember the circumstances of Leaf's interview with Paul? Could it be a situation like Leaf recording an audio interview on some cheapo tape recorder not for broadcast but just for his own notes?  And then said lo-fi recording is later run through some digital filters to enhance it with said "enhancement" utterly massacring it?

There's a lot of talk in the reddit bb thread that it's generated ai voices, but it's clearly not that simple. 

Imo they've used a blanket setting on an ai audio 'cleanup' tool like Adobe podcast, but barely tinkered with the settings, even on the modern interviews.

I've used Adobe podcast a lot in the last year for archiving old domestic 1/4 inch tape voice recordings, and it does a pretty good job in removing hiss and hum etc, but does produce artifacts that sound like what can be heard in ai covers,
especially if the audio is poor quality.
It sounds like they've not bothered to fine tune anything though.
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Documentary! on: May 26, 2024, 10:22:52 PM
Pretty nice sounding stereo mix of Surfin' Safari in the documentary.

I dunno,  but it sure sounded like a lot of the audio interview clips were off speed, running too fast. 

It sounds like they processed a lot of the clips through audio cleanup software on it's default setting.
Probably just used adobe podcast or some other tool that produces artifacts.
You can hear it a lot in the modern Al Jardine parts.
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The most stunning Beach Boys AI I've heard yet on: April 25, 2024, 12:51:12 AM


That's a great point and element in the process which I totally missed: Add every songwriter and songwriting team to the discussion, and if those writers were contracted to write new material for any name artists, whether it be Elvis, Sinatra, or whoever...they could demo a song with an approximation of the target artist's voice on the demo and present that demo to the artist, managers, producer, A&R, etc and have it sound close to what the song would be as sung by that artist.

Yes in that case I can absolutely see AI voice replication technology being used and embraced in those scenarios. Sometimes (or many times) the voice and the sound of that voice literally makes a song and a record greater than the song itself.

Imagine if the Colonel had got hold of this technology in the 1960's. We'd probably have twice as many bad Elvis movies, and i'm sure he would have exploited it even more once the King died.
There'd probably be a new Elvis album out every year til the mid 90's.

Regardless of your stance on ai covers, I assume most of us agree there needs to be some serious discussion on regulation with this tech.
Yes, it's a tool, but scammers are going to go wild with it, and that's whats most disturbing for me.
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The most stunning Beach Boys AI I've heard yet on: April 06, 2024, 10:43:54 PM
ai is starting to get half-decent at creating full tracks.  Fortunately not good songs, but if Mike finds out about this we're all doomed.

https://app.suno.ai/song/4d1f91ef-4f0e-4052-bb7b-1fee8e5fe8b8

This is crazy (and very funny at the same time Grin). I think we're all about to find out first-hand what a paradigm shift this technology will create in our society. As a graphic designer/videographer, I have been slightly worried about the AI graphic/art advancements that have been introduced in the last year...however, the Sora video generator is the most frightening thing I have witnessed regarding AI. And I can't imagine what will be coming down the pike in the next 5 years in this field.

Might be a good time to pivot towards prompt programming

It blows my mind that a computer chip can create a decent 60s song (I mean, it's clearly not great, but imagine this technology 3 years from now!). I still think that human beings will always crave human created content. But it scary to think that we now live in a world where we can't easily make the distinction between human and AI content - and in 1 decade who knows where we'll be.

Just my opinion, but as good as the ai tech is, I don't think it will ever be as good at composition compared to real talented song writers, maybe with the exception of bland modern 'top 10' garbage that the young folk listen to.

What kinda does get me excited for this technology is that I have always wanted to hear a 1960s/Pet-Sounds version of the 'Love You' album...a complete album with wrecking crew instruments/vibes, young sounding band.

Dae Lims are you reading this?
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The most stunning Beach Boys AI I've heard yet on: April 06, 2024, 06:24:22 AM
ai is starting to get half-decent at creating full tracks.  Fortunately not good songs, but if Mike finds out about this we're all doomed.

https://app.suno.ai/song/4d1f91ef-4f0e-4052-bb7b-1fee8e5fe8b8
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The most stunning Beach Boys AI I've heard yet on: April 05, 2024, 10:42:28 PM
Dae Lims says periodically on his live streams that his AI tracks exist as lossless and are "out there."

I would like to know where "out there" is. If somebody knows, I'd appreciated a DM.

https://archive.org/details/dae-lims-archive
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Documentary! on: March 29, 2024, 05:34:16 AM
Here's hoping the Soundtrack has a Dolby Atmos mix!
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The most stunning Beach Boys AI I've heard yet on: February 25, 2024, 03:26:42 AM
New Dae Lims just dropped.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Mnw0lhE1Xo

I doubt even the harshest ai critics would have any problem with this type of mix.
A new stereo mix using ai tools for stem seperation.
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The most stunning Beach Boys AI I've heard yet on: February 17, 2024, 11:23:53 PM
Did anyone rip the audio? I was going to (I had a feeling) but decided to answer nature’s call first.

It was beautiful.

I'd love to hear this, as well, hoping someone got it.
I've been looking for alternates on YouTube, nothing yet.

Daelims is now a member of the board here, and I hope the L&M track is made available again in some way, I missed it before it was removed. Hopefully there is an explanation why it got taken down.

I missed L&M too, but some kind person has been uploading them to archive.org:

https://archive.org/details/dae-lims-archive

10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The most stunning Beach Boys AI I've heard yet on: February 14, 2024, 10:08:02 PM
Not bad, not bad at all, Waves! It's of course more of a curiosity than anything else, but given all the lore about SoS, it's a welcome footnote to hear something semi-credible for what we know to be a lost first take. Dennis' voice really does seem quite suitable to the song, not to take anything away from Blondie.

Imagining what it could sound like with the sophisticated and artistic techniques employed by Dae Lims does send a little shiver through the spine, though, doesn't it?  3D

Yes, i hope this era is on Dae Lims to-do list
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The most stunning Beach Boys AI I've heard yet on: February 10, 2024, 07:00:18 AM
The technology has evolved in the last few months pretty quick too.

Just 30 min ago I pasted a youtube link of Sail on Sailor to one of the online ai programs and got this Dennis Wilson lead on Sail on sailor as a result:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HYJqtrieIw

The only thing I provided was isolated tracks of Dennis Wilson vox. Mostly from POB, to train the voice.
No editing apart from an image for youtube to be able to upload.

It's not great, but I was pretty impressed that the software had the capability to fade between the ai Dennis (from Blondie's vox) to the harmonies without any user input.
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The most stunning Beach Boys AI I've heard yet on: January 28, 2024, 10:55:22 PM
On the forum where they pat themselves on the back daily for their supposed positivity and inclusion, Dae Lims is getting completely shellacked for his work there.

Kinda blows my mind that a lot of people can't see the talent/time it takes to make these tracks - nor see anything remotely positive about it. Or see the imagination behind creating these harmonies, etc.. I mean I don't think that everyone has to like this stuff, and there have been tracks I haven't liked, but it's kinda crazy seeing the dogpile of hate.

People have made Smile mixes for how long now? People have been using Brian Wilson's very own work/voice to create their own fantasy album(s) for how many decades now? I know this is a whole other universe of technology/creativity, but at its heart it is the same thing: a fan trying to create something that never was.

As Guitarfool said above: But if a fan does work like this who clearly knows the music on a level beyond collecting records and being a fan, and can import the precise musical details into the work and be musically and sonically accurate in doing so, it's a work of art unto itself.

Yeah I know it can get prickly over there, but at least they have an ai thread, so the people that hate that type of content can ignore it.
It's ironic cause most of the fan mixes there have used ai tools to demix/re-balance, and people are fine with that.
I think we need to get past using the work 'ai' as a blanket term for any new audio tech.
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The most stunning Beach Boys AI I've heard yet on: January 28, 2024, 05:04:18 AM
Dae Lims just dropped a new one:   https://youtu.be/d59D_rYkYM8?si=TYFkr9BU-3aORVW6

Also is anyone here in contact with him?   UMG have now taken down all of his Beatles covers.

Just wanted someone to let him know there is an awesome Beatles community here:  https://forum.beatlegdb.com/
They have a dedicated thread for AI covers.

That would be a good alternative to youtube.
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Smile Shop Smile (AI Reconstruction) v. 3.0!!! on: November 04, 2023, 09:40:36 PM
Looking forward to hearing it.
I love your Beatles disco mix!
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian AI Project. on: September 29, 2023, 06:38:49 PM
I had a go of it a few weeks back:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wOS9yPVgoo
For the rap part I used Paul McCartney, but I much prefer yours. Singing that pirate part just feels right.
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