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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Darlin' (Stereo Remix) on: July 18, 2012, 09:34:10 PM
Wow, nicely done. This is really incredible. You definitely should try your hand at remixing more of their songs.
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / Smile Sessions Box Set (2011) / Re: TSS - All things Vegatables on: July 17, 2012, 10:45:43 AM
Is that Paul?

Yes, it is.
Paul joined in on the Vega-Tables sessions and even helped to provide some of the vegetable chewing noises.
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Suggestions? on: July 17, 2012, 10:07:38 AM
Firstly, no-one here is going to tell you where to find bootlegs. This is a public message board, and people in the Beach Boys' organisation read it. The best case scenario if someone posts a link to bootlegs is that that link gets shut down. Worst case, this board gets shut down. That said, Google is your friend.

I understand. I wasn't necessarily looking for locations, just mentions of interesting ones, which you did post, so thank you.

And the three books you mention are, at best (LLVS) misleading (Priore has a tendency to mix fact with his often-wrong speculation) and at worst (the other two) outright fabrications.

I understand that they aren't the best books, but I'm interested in LLVS because of all the photos. I want Heroes & Villains because it is so gossipy, it gives an interesting view into the band's history. Also, I know that Brian's biography is just a lot of nonsense and I have no interest in  it.

The best books I've read on the subject are:
The Beach Boys FAQ by Jon Stebbins (probably your best first book on the band, a good decent overview)
Inside The Music Of Brian Wilson by Philip Lambert (a *very* thorough musicological analysis of Brian's songwriting in the 60s)
The Complete Guide To The Music Of The Beach Boys by Andrew Doe and John Tobler (a song-by-song analysis of the band's music, a little brief because of format restrictions, but with real insight)
Catch A Wave by Peter A Carlin (the least factually-inaccurate biography of Brian and the band).

You might also check out Back To The Beach by Kingsley Abbot, a collection of historically-important or well-written pieces on the band. Many are less accurate than the above, so caveat lector, but all are very readable.

Andrew G Doe (who is probably the single most knowledgeable person on the band I know of) has a list of books (up to 2001) and his opinions of them at http://www.angelfire.com/la/Beachboysbritain/Bookshelf.html . I thought there was a more up-to-date version of the list on his website ( http://www.btinternet.com/~bellagio/index.html ), but I couldn't find it.

Bret Wheadon also has a very exhaustive list of books, along with his reviews of them, at http://www.beachboys.com/booksIII.html . I disagree with some of his ratings (especially for Badman's book, which is largely plagiarised from Andrew Doe's site but less accurate than AGD is, and Bret seems to have read a completely different Beach Boys FAQ by Jon Stebbins than I did...) but he's read pretty much *everything* and so you've got a consistent voice there telling you about the various books.

Thanks for these, I will definitely check them out.

OK... this is meant to be helpful, though it probably won't sound it...

All in all, you were very helpful.
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Suggestions? on: July 17, 2012, 09:55:37 AM
Brett's site also features reviews (and only reviews!) of most of the key boots. Quite informative.  Great site.

Thanks, that's pretty much what I was looking for.
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Capitol Records on: July 16, 2012, 09:32:10 PM
If you're looking to buy their CD's:
www.merchdirect.com/TheBeachBoysArchive/CDs/?display_category_id=250
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Suggestions? on: July 16, 2012, 08:59:47 PM
I have been lurking around the internet for Beach Boy bootlegs and managed to stumbled across this site on more than one occasion. Sooner or later, I realized what this website was and decided to sign up for it.

During my internet adventures, I came across many-a-bootleg and even more dead links.  So, I've come  to ask who I would guess would be the most versed in such things.

What are the best Beach Boys' bootlegs? The period doesn't matter, although I'm more interested in Brian Wilson (which I know must be obvious.) I know there are tons of Smile bootlegs, can anybody give me a list some info on the best ones? I know such things are subjective, but there are some that are certainly better than others. I would also be thankful if you could provide a place where I could find the bootlegs mentioned. Also, I already have The Murry Wilson Tapes, Psychedelic Sounds, Secret Smile, and the Alternate Brian Wilson mix.

I'm also interested in books. I know of Look! Listen! Vibrate! Smile! and Heroes and Villains, both of which I'm interested in getting. I also known that Brian's so called "biography," Wouldn't Be Nice: My Own Story is awful and that Brian hardly had anything to do with it. Any other ideas on which books to purchase?

Any help would be much appreciated.  Smiley   
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