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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
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on: March 30, 2017, 07:02:43 AM
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Was at the show last night. Had a great time. Here are my thoughts.
Feel Flows and The Night Was So Young were my favorites. Blondie does an exceptional job on feel flows. Brian on The Night Was So Young was unbelievable. He even hit the higher Carl parts on why did you have to lie yay yay parts. I couldn't believe it was even him at first.
Everything up until You still believe in me was stellar. Top Notch really! California Saga also really stood out.
Now the bad part. Brian really struggled to get through Pet Sounds. He sounded great before and after Pet Sounds, but beginning with YSBIM he was short of breath really bad and a lot of trouble even getting a word out. He did do a nice job on GOK though. He also did awesome on Good Vibrations and Surfin USA as well. So it was weird that he could barely even say a word during the PS set.
All in all it was a great show and the crowd really enjoyed it.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
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on: July 25, 2016, 07:25:25 AM
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Saw the show last night in Bossier City, LA (Horseshoe Casino - Riverdome). Really small room, so it was great seeing the band up close. Al Jardine was with the group after all. Not Darian though (Billy Hinsche was there). Brian was in pretty good form. There was no intermission, so I am guessing it was a shorter show. This was the setlist for last night :
Our Prayer Heroes and Villains California Girls (with some new intro) Dance Dance Dance Do You wanna dance I Get Around Surfer Girl Don't Worry baby California Saga: California Wild Honey Sail on sailor (pet sounds in order) Good Vibrations Help Me Rhonda Barbara Ann Surfin USA Fun Fun Fun Love and Mercy
Was there as well. Great show. Even got Al's autograph after the show so glad he was able to make it.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
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on: July 20, 2016, 02:34:05 PM
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I'm not sure what the status is, but the 7/23 show is no longer asterisked on Brian's website as only featuring Blondie, and the date is listed on Al's website. So perhaps be *may* make it to this gig? Certainly no guarantees.
David's site now lists Dean Torrence for his private gig. Looking like a change for sure. Man, this makes my day if true. I was really bummed thinking Al wouldn't be there at the show. Now fingers crossed for a full setlist.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
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on: July 13, 2016, 08:09:31 AM
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Gig with the Surf City Allstars. Doubt he will be there the night before either.
Brian's website made a point early on to mark only the 7/23 show as "Featuring Blondie Chaplin", which confusingly is their way of saying Al is not going to be there. So I would guess Al will be at the 7/22 show and then fly straight out for this side gig. I would imagine Al's gig was booked ages ago, prior to the PS tour being booked. Had no idea, figured that just meant that Blondie was going to be there, which at the time I was thinking that was pretty sweet.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike and Bruce - Pre 2012
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on: November 19, 2015, 10:15:47 AM
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Impossible to generalize, but my recollection is that in the 1998-early 2000s timeframe there was pretty strong animosity from some fans towards Mike, having as much to do with simply using the “Beach Boys” name as it did with Brian or Al not being there. Brian didn’t want to be there, Al was confusingly kind of squeezed out in 1998, so it was unclear what he *wanted* versus the reality of what was going on.
The last big swell of a large amount of negative feeling towards Mike came in the mid 2000’s when the “Smile”-related lawsuits came about. They were pretty much laughed out of the courts, and eventually that sort of faded away.
I think by the mid-2000’s, 2006-ish, even a lot of crusty, cynical fans had at least come to terms with Mike using the BB name. Brian still didn’t want a part of it. Al seemed to, sort of. That was about it.
I think the main thing that alleviated the scorn from fans concerning Mike using the BB name was that, apart from Al on and off, nobody else *wanted* to be in the “Beach Boys” touring band or use the BB name. As the decade went on, Mike was touring and there wasn’t any actual alternative. Having *a* Beach Boys, *any* Beach Boys out there versus none is an interesting debate, but at the end of the day Mike wasn’t touring *in place* of any other tangible, feasible lineup.
In 2012, the s**tstorm came about in part because this was no longer the case. Unlike the the late 90s and 2000s, both Brian and Al (and David Marks for that matter) wanted to keep *all five* guys together as “The Beach Boys.”
As Howie Edelson put it some time back, Mike essentially *quit* the band at the end of 2012 and went back to his thing. What fans who think C50 complainers are "anti-Mike" often overlook is that, at least for me, I never wanted to see Mike leave the reunion but have it continue as "The Beach Boys" either. Mike being a part of it is, well, a big part of it! Essentially, implicit in being critical of Mike ending the reunion is that I value what he adds to the band and the whole.
OK, that's kinda what I thought, that the C50 essentially created the want for Brian Wilson to be a part of The Beach Boys. I can only speak for myself, but it wasn't so much wanting Brian Wilson to "be in the Beach Boys." It was about having them all together. The "whole is greater than the sum" cliché was actually true on that tour. Brian has spent most of the last 30 years not wanting to tour with the guys, and/or not being allowed to (the Landy years clouded this issue, as it did many others), so it was certainly extra frustrating when, in 2012, Brian was ecstatic about doing more stuff collectively as the BBs for the first time in ages, and Mike walked away from it. Brian finally wanted to be a Beach Boy, and Mike walked. Yet another instance in Beach Boys history where better management could've made a difference. On the bright side, I don't think NPP would exist (at least not in its current form) had The Beach Boys stayed together. I like NPP, but man that record would have been even better as a Beach Boys album.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Love & Mercy Blu-Ray/DVD Official thread
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on: October 01, 2015, 09:01:58 AM
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Pet Sounds did OK at the time Smiley was the real flop. One listen explains why. Way too out there.....
Which is always a mystery to me. Why did they abandon the weird Smile album and go for a way weirder Smiley Smile album with very stripped down arrangements? I heard Brian say once that he needed a year to finish Smile and that the record company wouldn't give him that long to finish it. I know there are a lot of reasons why it didn't get finished, but I think this is the main one.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \
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on: June 23, 2015, 06:35:33 AM
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Saw it for a second time on Saturday. Man, I think I enjoyed it better the second time around. Great film all the way around. Only thing I would want to see is a picture of Brian working in the studios during the 60s and a picture of present day Brian and Melinda at the end. The Love and Mercy closeout to the film was awesome, but I feel like a lot of people feel like Taylor is Melinda.
I don't think people would make that assumption. Never does the movie suggest Melinda has any musical talent so I don't think people would come to the conclusion of her being his backup singer. Plus the movie makes Brian and Melinda out to be more or less the same age while Taylor is clearly much younger than him in that clip. I do wish they had shot a new concert sequence of Love and Mercy especially for the film instead of using nearly 13 year old footage from the Pet Sounds Live show (though it is cool to see it as it wasn't on the Pet Sounds Live DVD). Well my girlfriend and her daughter both thought that was Melinda as you can't really see Taylor singing and only see her as they are taking a bow.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \
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on: June 22, 2015, 12:30:57 PM
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Saw it for a second time on Saturday. Man, I think I enjoyed it better the second time around. Great film all the way around. Only thing I would want to see is a picture of Brian working in the studios during the 60s and a picture of present day Brian and Melinda at the end. The Love and Mercy closeout to the film was awesome, but I feel like a lot of people feel like Taylor is Melinda.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \
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on: June 19, 2015, 10:18:39 AM
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Seeing Brian in the 1970s might've been way too painful.
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Plus the audience may not feel much sympathy for a man who was eating, drinking, sleeping and doing drugs for a 3 plus years.
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