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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Roll Your Own
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on: October 30, 2011, 02:44:48 PM
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I said "hoped for" not "expecting"
All the release has confirmed for me is how much stuff we had already and how close to if not significantly better our own mixes are in comparison to the release...
Its still the greatest album of its genre and era imho :-)
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Roll Your Own
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on: October 30, 2011, 09:42:24 AM
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Having just listened to TSS disk1 on CD. The holy grail I was hoping for has not materialised. I going to stick to my "roll your own" mix with the addition of the second half of Windchimes which is the only thing I was really suprised by :-(
(its a mono historical mix made fro the best of mok and PurpleChick and my own EQ and reverb and full H&V sequence)
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: SMiLE Sessions box set!
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on: May 04, 2011, 04:18:10 AM
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I am incredibly glad it will be coming out in mono.
I LOVE stereo (nothing gets better for me than listening to the 2009 mix of 'Don't Worry Baby' or the stereo mix of WIBN) but there is a depth and warmth achieved with mono that stereo just can't compete with. There is a unity with mono whereas stereo can sound scattered. I enjoy both formats, but mono just seems right for SMiLE - considering the lack of instruments on many of the songs (Wonderful, Friday Night, You Are My Sunshine) I don't think too many of these songs would sound good in stereo. But that's just me. And please prove me wrong Mr. Linett!
For those of us buying the boxset I have no doubt that we'll be treated to both stereo and mono for the majority of the SMiLE songs.
I really want Wonderful in stereo. Put the harpsichord to the left, backing vocals to the right, (give them both stereo reverb) and lead vocal in the middle, and that will sounds awesome. Or even spread the BG vox around in the stereo image and put the harpsichord behind Brian's voice - that should work too. The the former option will sound like the Beatles remasters where the guitar is on the direct left, drums and bass on the direct right, lead vocals direct front, etc etc....the Beatles stereo remasters sound like rubbish. I'll agree with you on the latter though - a subtle stereo mix of Wonderful would probably sound really good. Funny, O&O is one of my top 5 favorite albums and I've never heard it in mono - I must do that one of these days. Odessey and Oracle in mono is magnificent. Listening to it in stereo was my first encounter with it and was the only way I had heard it for a while, but I came across a mono mix of Changes and it was like hearing the song all over again. I found O&O in mono and couldn't believe the difference (literally in some of the songs as AGD pointed out) and the overall sound and feel was such so much better. Butcher's Tale really stands out and is much more ominous. If you havent heard the mono O&O you have not heard the missing strings on This will be Our Year then? J xx
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: How much of SMiLE would have been instrumental?
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on: April 13, 2011, 08:24:29 AM
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I was going on the lyrics that VDP was asked to write specifically for SMiLE 2004, in DP's book he talks about being asked to write parts in 2004 for tracksthat he didnt in 1967. My thinking was that if he didnt have them by the time the project was aborted in 1967 then there's a strong chance that they were not required. I guess it boils down to how complete you think SMiLE was/is or if Brian was under pressure to fill the 2004 version with lyrics?
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: How much of SMiLE would have been instrumental?
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on: April 13, 2011, 04:48:45 AM
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I didn't say all of it would be instrumental and I dont want to take what DP says verbatim, but some of the stuff just sounds like the vocals were added for the sake of it. Im not convinced by "roll plymouth rock" - it just doesnt sound right to my ears.
I really think we might be chasing ghosts though, perhaps all these years spent with the bootlegs have scuppered my appreciation somewhat...
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / How much of SMiLE would have been instrumental?
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on: April 13, 2011, 02:57:28 AM
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HI All,
I'm starting to think that many of the tracks that we think were incomplete were never meant to have vocals. that a good portion of SMiLE 1967 was instrumental.
I know sources are spurious at best and substances can cloud the mind (and that's just us!) but reading the DP 2004 SMilE book I cant help but wonder just how much of the stuff would never have had lyrics. CIFOTM for example was a new lyric for 2004, as was IBH? and they just don't seem to fit in the way that Brian's melody worked back then?
Am I missing something?
J xxx
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \
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on: April 05, 2011, 10:29:42 AM
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Yeah, I think the doubts, etc. about the songs and what to do here and there, etc. were all symptoms of the mental place he was in at the time. Without the mental illness, he probably would have pulled it off.
But perhaps without the mental ilness he wouldnt have been "there" in the first place?
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / "Look" would Brian have? (Towards a personal SMiLE mix)
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on: April 05, 2011, 12:42:51 AM
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Greetings SMiLY ones...
I'm inches away from my own personal SMiLE mix. I'm working on the principle that Brian couldn't/wouldn't have mixed in stereo, and the record company would have insisted on Good Vibrations being on the album (though Brian would have remixed it possibly). So Its a mono reduction and recompile.
Ive compiled a purplechick style mix (with bits from MOK) and its "almost" there. However a few things still jar and I wanted opinion on some things:
(Scholars, I hope you will forgive my historical ignorance)
1, The drums in the version of "Look" we have, really jar. Would Brian have kept them dry like they are or used gold stars echo chamber??. I am wondering whether to experiment with a little reverb??
2, I love Moks mix of "He gives speeches" would it have been on the album? and where would you insert it if we assume we are sticking to a BWPS running order?
Thanks in advance...
LoVe to all
Jon xxx
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Your personal SMiLE mix
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on: April 04, 2011, 12:48:02 PM
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Hi all,
First post an all :-) So hope I don't embarrass myself by saying, I'm currently on a MONO trip, so I'm working on a "SMiLE mono reduction" using best of Mok and Purplechick mixes. Funny how the BWPS bits of purplechick blend so much nicer in mono :-)
J xxx
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