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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Durrie Parks Smile acetates up for sale for $10,000 on: March 01, 2013, 08:53:00 AM
http://recordmecca.com/store/museum-quality-collectibles/beach-boys-8-original-smile-acetates-from-the-collection-of-van-dyke-parks/

Beach Boys – 8 Original “Smile” Acetates from the collection of Van Dyke Parks
A collection of eight original acetates from the Beach Boys' unfinished album Smile; from the collection of Van Dyke Parks, Brian Wilson's collaborator on the project.  We acquired these unique discs from Durrie Parks, Van Dyke's ex wife (Van Dyke and Durrie lived at Brian Wilson's house during the recording of Smile.)  Smile is the most legendary unreleased album of all time.  Intended as the follow up to the Beach Boys classic Pet Sounds, Wilson worked on Smile throughout 1966 and '67, finally abandoning it in favor of the much less ambitious Smiley Smile.
These discs are truly fascinating pieces of the Smile puzzle.  Each contains a part or multiple parts of a song; together they illustrate how Wilson recorded each of the songs for Smile in pieces, and planned to fit the individual elements together--like puzzle pieces--after the fact.  You can hear this in finished songs like "Heroes and Villians."
Much has been written about why Smile was abandoned--but from discs like these and the recently released Smile box set, it's easy to see how Wilson could have lost the plot.  He recorded endless amounts of material, which could have been fit together in countless ways. At some point it probably just became overwhelming, and easier to start over.
Some but not all of the material on these discs was eventually released as part of the Smile box set.  Below is a fairly detailed explanation of what is contained on each; upon request we'll forward a more detailed breakdown.  None have labels, most have grease pencil markings and/or a scrap of paper with a partial title taped on with clear tape.  All are in G condition, and play through with surface noise but no skips.  A digital transfer of the music is included, as is a letter of authenticity for each disc from Durrie Parks.  A truly unique and museum-quality collection.
(All titles as on Smile box set; all 10" discs unless noted)
Disc 1/Side A/  1.  0:42-1:10 portion of “Cabin Essence” (20/20 version.)/ 2. “Heroes & Villains Verse (Master Take)” (with two more seconds of count-off  than box set .)  3.“Heroes & Villains Barnyard (Master Take)” (with four fewer seconds of count-off and a 10 second earlier fade fade than box set.)  // Side B: 1.  Same as A Side with the “one” included in the count off. 2. Same as A Side. 3. Blank. (side 2 scored but playable; edge is bent/chipped before grooves begin, not affecting play.)
 Disc 2/ 1. 0:42-1:10 portion of “Cabin Essence” (20/20 version.) 2. Two versions of “Do You Like Worms (Bicycle Rider)” with alternate vocals to box set. 3. First 45 seconds of “Heroes and Villains”. Vocal sounds  different than commercial release.
 Disc 3/1. Alternate version of “Cabin Essence Verse“ (different from box set.) 2.  0:42-1:10 portion of “Cabinessence” (20/20 version.)  3.  Alternate version of final minute of Cabin Essence (different from box set.)
 Disc 4/ 1. Alternate version of “Do You Like Worms” that jumps back and forth from the “Roll Plymouth Rock” part and “Bicycle Rider” part.  (Different sequence/medly than on box set.)
 Disc 5/ 1. Alternate version of “Heroes And Villains Verse: Master Take” (different from box set)
Disc 6/ 1.  Final 40 seconds of “Heroes & Villians: Prelude to Fade” from the boxset.  (7")
Disc 7/ 1.  Alternate version of “Wind Chimes” (different from box set.)  (7")
 Disc 8/ 1.  Backing track “Time To Get Alone” (unreleased instrumental version, cut by Brian Wilson in 1967 for Redwood, who became Three Dog Night.  Brian was producing them for Brother Records, but the other Beach Boys wanted the track for themselves and insisted Brian save it.  Appeared later on 20/20, but this version has no vocals and an extra 20 seconds at end.)
- See more at: http://recordmecca.com/store/museum-quality-collectibles/beach-boys-8-original-smile-acetates-from-the-collection-of-van-dyke-parks/#sthash.eiEfU2Ey.dpuf
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Record Store Day 'Black Friday' 2012 Release on: October 17, 2012, 10:29:34 AM
Bull Moose is now confirming that the BBs release is a single 10" in a gatefold sleeve. Tracks are Surfin' Safari b/w "Isn't It Time.

Johnston65, where are you seeing info regarding the 40th anniversary edition of Aladdin Sane? I'm assuming this will be out next year?
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Is Vega-Tables the crowned king of the box set? on: November 12, 2011, 07:35:39 PM
Absolutely the most convincing of the new edits on TSS. This one would've blown 'em away in '67.
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Good Vibrations (Disc 5 on TSS) - what's new? on: November 11, 2011, 07:45:17 AM
 I'm making my way through disc 5 from TSS after repeated plays of discs 1, 3 and 4. I have SOT 15, but it's been a while since I last gave it a listen. There are definitely some familiar sections/takes. I'm wondering though what is "net new" on the GV disc.
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What Might Carl Have Added to the TSS Project Had He Still Been Around? on: November 07, 2011, 07:18:56 PM
So the mooted LA Light DYLM - just how "mooted" was it? Did they get out the tapes and say "maybe we should have a crack at it"? Was any work done (I assume not).
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: SMiLE Sessions box set! on: October 31, 2011, 08:15:12 AM
Anyone in Canada get theirs from amazon.ca yet?
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: SMiLE Sessions box set! on: August 28, 2011, 06:04:04 PM
They mastered a version of "Child" from an acetate

And, uh, y'know..... any chance that this is an unbooted mix/version of said track?
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: SMiLE Sessions box set! on: July 31, 2011, 10:55:00 AM
From an interview with Brian Wilson that appeared today in Lexgo:

Question: "I've read that Capitol Records is finally going to release The Beach Boys' much fabled Smile album this year."

Answer: "Maybe."

Link to full article: http://www.kentucky.com/2011/07/31/1829919/brian-wilson-is-a-man-of-few-words.html
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Mojo Smile articles. on: June 15, 2011, 10:34:13 AM
They lost me when the price creeped up to $13.50 CDN. With the taxes in the province I live in that works out to about $15.25 all in. At the same time it's going for $9.95 in the USA and our dollar is worth more than the greenback!
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: MOJO Special Spolier on: June 12, 2011, 03:59:44 PM
I too would love to get a PM in the P.M.!
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian: \ on: June 07, 2011, 08:31:46 AM
Registrations have been closed for over 6 months:

http://bsnpubs.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5022192

Kind of an odd site. And yeah, why no questions about the actual musical content of the disc?
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: How to get lost SMiLE material BaCK? on: March 23, 2011, 12:11:33 PM
Thanks for that info adamghost - encouraging stuff!

I understand what you say about tempering expectations for "holy grail" items turning up, but based on your conversation (especially the "whoa" thing) would you say there might be one or two "revelations" or major finds? Or is the "whoa" thing something that's interesting but not necessarily a big find that will fill in a piece of the puzzle?
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New Beach Boys release will make you 'SMiLE' on: February 10, 2011, 02:59:22 PM
Why copy for Capitol ?  Doesn't make sense - CBS, yes.  I'm getting a funny feeling this is a Chinese whispers version of the searching 'we' did a while back. Could be wrong, but it's odd that it's not surfaced until now. Is this a recent post on Hoffman ?

Posted last night. See post 613: http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showthread.php?p=6233926&highlight=germany#post6233926

As soon as I saw it I thought, "gotta post this over at Smiley Smile for the straight dope."  Azn
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New Beach Boys release will make you 'SMiLE' on: February 10, 2011, 12:10:50 PM
Someone posted this at the Steve Hoffman forum. It's new to me. Can anyone confirm?

Also, the raw footage for the Leonard Bernstein TV special was located several years ago. The film elements for all the footage shot for the Leonard Bernstein Special, ended up in a film library in (of all places) Germany, complete with directors logs. That was found about 5 years back, requests to copy: granted, and passed onto Capitol.
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Smile's back cover: why don't we have a better quality picture? on: October 30, 2009, 11:31:23 AM
So is there any idea what was on the rear sleeve of all those covers that went to the landfill?  Or had they yet to receive rear sleeves?
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Beach Boys Hate You on: July 09, 2009, 03:23:16 PM
Lead single: "Don't F*** With The Formula".

And, of course, "Anarchy in the USA".
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Promises Of SMILE on: February 26, 2009, 06:51:01 AM
There was a place here in Canada called CD Warehouse.  They had a hard copy catalogue that you could order out of and they updated an reprinted the catalogue each year.  It included coming releases as well as back-catalogue stuff.  I distinctly remember that around the time my Beach Boys obsession began (94-95) there was an entry, with a catalogue number for "The Beach Boys - Smile".  As soon as I saw that entry I placed a pre-order and checked in regularly after the release came and went.

I hasten to add that this was a strictly legit store - no boots.
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Fall Breaks And Back To Winter on: February 10, 2009, 12:29:58 PM
At a guess would the title have anything to do with the changing of the seasons?  I'm thinking of the old "Fall back, spring forward" saying that is used as a reminder for daylight savings time.
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: new comp announced - June 10 - U.S. Singles on: April 04, 2008, 12:40:03 PM
Can a good soul estimate how much CD space would the whole As & Bs output take? Capitol, Warner, CBS and Kokomo's one offs.

Not that I think they would release something like that for the 278 audiophiles out there...

There's a bootleg box around which take up 5 cd's plus one extra with promo's and stuff.


What bootleg is that?
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: SMILE tracks on 1993 boxed set on: April 03, 2008, 07:14:59 AM
Wasn't there mention here some time ago that CITFOTM was considered for the Hawthorne CA comp?  I'm thinking someone said a stereo mix of the BW '66 backing track edit was prepared.
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Smile - what's in private hands & uncirculated? on: August 17, 2007, 12:59:28 PM
I'm really frustrated by the record companies dragging their heels on digital distribution of unreleased material.  When are they gonna wake up and realize that there's this Interweb thing out there that would allow them to exploit their artists' unreleased archives without any manufacturing and distribution costs?  I'd pay a buck a song to download unreleased Beatles, Beach Boys, Dylan, Stones, etc. but I won't pay that for the new White Stripes (tho' I like the White Stripes).

I'm guessing that the artist has final call in most cases but c'mon, where there's a will (and $ to be made) there's a way.
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Smile - what's in private hands & uncirculated? on: August 06, 2007, 08:23:19 AM
What Smile stuff is KNOWN to exist, but remains in the hands of private collectors or is uncirculated? 

This topic has come up before, but I'd love a recap given some of the recent wishful thinking on the board re: a box set.
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Smile era stuff on: July 21, 2007, 03:19:47 PM
Hopefully they'll all be dead soon, then the record company can just whack it out regardless ala Stanley Kubrick's Clockwork Orange.

Off-topic, I know, but did you mean Kubrick's "Eyes Wide Shut"? "A Clockwork Orange" was released as the director intended while he was still alive in 1971. Or, are you referring to the supposedly forthcoming "Special Edition" version of "Orange" that reportedly includes extras that Kubrick probably wouldn't have wanted included, but no one is really sure of?

I thought Kubrick destroyed all of the extra footage from ACO.  What are the extras you refer to?  Docs, interviews?
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Stebbins to Write 5 More Beach Boy Books on: May 31, 2007, 10:29:27 AM
"John Stamos - The Neet Boy"
25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Stebbins to Write 5 More Beach Boy Books on: May 31, 2007, 08:09:01 AM
"Daryl Dragon - The Beach Boy & Tenille"
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