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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \ on: April 05, 2026, 03:51:52 AM
Just gave a real good listen to Disc 3 of the set and thought I'd relate what stood out to me from what we're presented, and pose a few questions.  First off, Mony Mony, Running Bear, Shake Rattle & Roll, and On Broadway all sound very good.  Like with the Adult/Child songs, these previously bootleg-only songs sound much better than they ever did.  But what's the deal with that lyric sheet that is pictured on the next page of the discography?  It looks like it has chorus words for "Shake Rattle & Roll," but the Boys never use those exact lyrics in their version.  And the bottom portion of this 'chorus' looks more like "Rock 'n' Roll Music" lyrics than "Shake" lyrics.  And to further muddy it there's a big arrow which goes down from the second portion of the lyrics to words that say, "to bridge." 

And then below that are lyrics aren't on the recording, and that even A.I. can't find me a song that matches those lyrics.  Here they all are, including instructions and the chords written for some of them...

B
Solo -- OO she shake...
           She rattle and OO she   {were there more words which are trimmed from the picture?)
           She rattle and (xxxxxxxxx)  {yes, words crossed out inside parentheses.}

Duet -- OO she shake
           She rattle and OO she  {appears some words were cut off}
           She rattle and                      l
                                                      l
Chorus -- Rock, Rockin' and a Roll     l
                       Rockin' and a            l
               Rock, Rockin' and a Roll     l
                        Rockin' and a           l
                                                      l
                                                      l
                                                      l
                                                      l
                                               to bridge  {the downward line, with an arrow point at end, comes from beneath the "duet" portion}

(F#) Would you like to (E) come  wo   (I don't know if more words are cut off, or if he started to write the next line there, but decided to write it on another line?)
(F#) Would you like to join my
        Friends and (E) fam-i-ly

My baby likes to hear that rock 'n   (again, the rest of the line may have been trimmed from the picture)
                 music
And after school / (wi???) She wants to let her   (more lyrics may have been cut off)
And when I take her out she...  (definitely more words were cut off here)


So if anyone has a clue as to what's going on here, please let me know!

As for "Short Skirts," I bet it had to have had a melody, and probably some lyrics which were never put to tape (or erased,) as I don't think they would have sung backing vocals on it if there weren't a melody and lyrics to go with it already.

The next track, the backing track of the "TM Song" is perhaps the most surprising to me, as it's just wild!  There may be nothing else like it in the history of Rock 'n' Roll?  The instruments used are your standard fare, but the orchestration of them is just plain-out wacky.  I love it!

Then, with "Honkin' Down The Highway," they certainly didn't do Billy Hinsche any favors by doing nothing, it seems, to enhance his vocal.  First off, it's a little quiet, and thus, buried in the mix a bit.  And second, it sounds like it's totally dry, without any reverb or echo to flesh it out!  I can only imagine they were thinking, well, we don't want to show up the Beach Boys, so we'll leave his vocal unenhanced so that no one thinks, hey, anybody can sing a Beach Boy song!  I don't think they needed to worry, though, as even with enhancements I doubt it would have come close to challenging Alan's version for supremacy!

I also love the backing track to "Solar System," as it's piano playing harks back to "Heroes & Villains" and "SMiLE!"

The vocals only version of "The Night Was So Young" is a definite highlight, too.  I'd also like to hear a vocals only version of "Rock 'n' Roll Music!"  I bet those stacked "AAAAAAAHHHHH's" in the verses would be glorious!

My last thought is on "They're Marching Along."  I've never been a big fan of the song, but I was just listening to the frantic piano playing Brian is doing and thinking, I wish there were a different melody and totally different words to this song.  I think the track could go in a completely different direction?! 

Anyway, them's my thoughts on disc 3. 

2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 2026 Pet Sounds Releases on: April 04, 2026, 12:46:15 PM
They said if you play a mono record with a stereo cartridge you'll introduce some unwanted noise, some "rumble."  Then they said something about splitting off the signal with a Y cord.  And I forgot, but they also said you should really listen to mono with only one speaker, too.  But they didn't say that would solve the problem of unwanted noise generated by using a stereo cartridge on a mono record.  So I guess I sort of answered my own question?  I should just look it up on the old interweb, it has all the answers!
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 2026 Pet Sounds Releases on: April 03, 2026, 07:13:05 PM

In my dream world, I would love for The Beach Boys to make a website/app solely dedicated to the music: where you could be your own sound mixer (where you have a sound board, and 4-8 tracks from each Pet Sounds song, and you can adjust to hear different vocal tracks, different mixes, adjust different instruments depending on the Mic/track). I would 100% pay for a subscription to such a thing.



Yes!  That would be so awesome!  C'mon, Beach Boys!  Be trail blazers again and be the first to make something like this happen!  I also still think they could, and should, have made a much larger box set, providing much more studio sessions, more tracks that perhaps only have parts of the instrumental tracks so that we may hear the different parts with even more clarity.  And there are other artists out there who are doing box sets with 8 to 12 discs in them.  Sure they won't sell as many of those, but they'll make more money on each set, so it is financially viable.  Especially if you go a step further in your marketing and do a Kickstarter type of thing, where you present a price point that will make you money, and if enough people don't sign up, then you don't do it, and you've lost no money essentially.

Also, I was just on YouTube listening to the March 24 "Live Audiophile Roundtable: Pet Sounds AAA Mono Deep Dive/1972 Brother Records," which is very interesting!  It's about the $100 Pet Sounds vinyl that is taken from the tape used for the Pet Sounds LP that came with Carl & The Passions, which they say is much better than the original master.  (Unfortunately the free shipping option they mention is gone now.)

I have a question for you Audiophiles out there about something they brought up, which is, if you have a Mono record then you should listen to it using only a Mono cartridge. They also said there were a few things you could do to mitigate the problems of using a Stereo cartridge if you don't have a Mono one.  However, those solutions sort of went right over my head!  But then I mused, could I simply just unplug one of the Stereo speakers?  Would that solve any possible problem?  Anyone here know the answer?

4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \ on: March 31, 2026, 04:00:56 AM
I was mostly pleased with the sound of the new set, until my memory was jogged by something I read on the other board.  I now remember listening to the new "Love You" and thinking that many of the backing vocals didn't pop out, they didn't have the same balance to the rest of the track as I remembered them having.  But, I shoved it to the back of my mind thinking I probably am just not remembering correctly.  Then someone on the other board said that there was more reverb on the backing vocals of the "Love You" songs than was originally there -- which could totally make the backing vocals disappear into the background more!  This is not good audio engineering!  If they're supposed to be presenting the album as it was released, then why change it by adding more reverb to isolated parts (or whole parts) than was there originally?  Why brickwall it into making it sound louder?  You know, if we want it louder we can just turn up the volume ourselves, don't you?  Please stop arbitrarily messing with the master tapes!

Now... that being said... I'm all for remasters!  I'd love to hear things I never heard before!  Of course, a remaster could be a disaster!  But it seems like that is what they've been doing anyway!  Changing the reverb on different elements within the song, or on the whole song; "brickwalling" it to make it "louder;" flying in vocals from a studio version of Back Home into what was supposed to be a live version; and they cut out minutes from some of the Dennis songs they've put on some of the recent sets, much to the detriment of the original songs!  If you're going to do a remaster, then do a real remaster.  Don't say you're trying to present the music faithfully to the original intent and then not do it!  So... if you're going to do a remaster, then really do a remaster, and we can have an argument about how successful it was or not.  If you're going to present it as originally mastered, then do it!  Use a vintage record as your guide and get it as close to that as possible!

Also, one other change I WISH they WOULD make is with "Caroline, No."  Since I've heard the correct speed version I can no longer stomach the sped up "original" version!  It sounds horrible to my ears.  I wish they would release a version of Pet Sounds with the normal speed version at the end instead of the sped up version!  Maybe someday I'll finally be able to burn myself a disc of Pet Sounds like that!  <sigh>  (I've never been great at computer stuff.  And I don't have the setup now to do it, anyway.)
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 2026 Pet Sounds Releases on: March 31, 2026, 03:27:52 AM
Thanks for the links! 

Now... is the Carl version something new that we haven't heard before?  Because that's the way I read the email at first glance.  But now I have a sneaking suspicion that I have heard it before, and of course, most likely on the previous PS box sets.

But... again, if it is new, why was it not included on the new re-re-release?

Carl sounds very good on the opening lines, but then delivers his last lines way too laid back for my taste.  Mike's vocals on that version also sound too laid back.  I don't think his vocal here is the same as his vocal on the final version.  Was not able to make my mind up about Brian's last verse, though.  It could be the same, it could be different.

6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / 2026 Pet Sounds Releases on: March 30, 2026, 05:05:37 AM
So no one has started a thread about the new 2026 Pet Sounds releases?!

Or should I say re-re-releases?

Putting some of the sessions on LP is fine, as they've never been on vinyl.  But why is there no new material at all?  Apparently they only want to sell it to people who haven't bought the original box set, or the re-release of that box set?!

I don't understand this company at all!  They spent ONE HUNDRED MILLION to TWO HUNDRED MILLION dollars for The Beach Boys' catalog, and the best they can manage is a straight rehash of already re-released material?  Why in the world did they spend all that money on the catalog if they didn't expect they could sell it and make tons of money from it?!  Is their plan to sell songs for use in TV and movies and get their money back that way?  Will that be enough to get their investment back?  They don't seem to have any faith in their box set program, as shown by the debacle of a release that was We Gotta Groove.  They put it out in a pricey format (LP/CD only) which infuriated many of the band's fans.  Then they didn't print enough to meet their pre-order demands, and thus made many fans wait six weeks to get their box set -- and probably in the process lost many sales from those who don't want to wait and so just decided to skip it instead.  I did finally get mine, but I'm not thrilled with it.  It seems very short!  I mean, it's a box set that covers three albums, and it only consists of 3 CD's.  I bet they could have easily done a 3 CD set for each album!  And that's what I'm seeing other bands doing left and right, they're putting out box sets of 3+ discs for one album!  Why does this company think something like that won't sell for The Beach Boys?  And again, if they think that won't sell, why did they buy the catalog in the first place?

And this Pet Sounds set is ridiculous in that it has no new material at all!  But wait, I got an email from them saying I could click on a link and hear a new version of Sloop John B with Carl singing one of the verses!  Now why isn't that on the new set?  And, just as important, why, when I clicked on the link, could I not find this Carl-version of Sloop John B?  All I could listen to was the original mix of the track.  They said there were two other versions I could listen to, but, by God, I couldn't find them!

Look... as for me personally... I would buy a box set that has every session take on it!  I mean, at the very least sell me a 12 disc box, one disc for each song, for $300!  I'd buy that!  Take advantage of what's there in their extensive catalog!  Why are they just sitting on this stuff?!

This bodes horribly for the SMiLE set next year.  I was hoping there'd be some new stuff on it, but now I'm expecting it to be an exact rehash of what we already have.  Very disappointing.  And another thing, while the Durrie Parks acetates originally appeared on the market before Iconic took over, that The Beach Boys enterprise didn't secure the Durrie Parks SMiLE acetates both times they were up for sale is just incredibly short-sighted!  Criminal, in a way, that they didn't secure the rights to these recordings for their own archives.  (Was the second sale after Iconic took over?  It may have been, now that I think about it.)

And what's up with the new Pet Sounds 2 CD set having the exact same track listing as the 2 LP set?!  You can get a lot more on a CD, why leave so much empty space?  And to top that off, what's up with the exact same version of a song appearing twice in each set on both of the CD's and both of the LP's?  Did someone screw up the mastering of the set, but it wasn't noticed until the thing was manufactured, so the company just said "screw it, we ain't fixing it, we'll just put it out as is!?"

I have lost a lot of faith in Iconic to do things as befits America's greatest rock band!  I'll still buy the sets, but I expect there will be a ton of missed opportunities, and just plain old mistakes!

I'm still flabbergasted as to how so much of "Feel Flows" and "Sail On Sailor" were sonically inferior than previous releases.  How did the same team go from the great sound on "The SMiLE Sessions," and the digital only releases of the late 60's albums, to those two box sets?   Especially, how could they release a LIVE version of "Back Home" that was a fake live version?!?!  How do you do that?  Who forced these terrible decisions on the engineering team, or did the engineering team just all of a sudden come up with terrible ideas themselves?  As to the new team, why must this new box set be "brickwalled?"  Why wouldn't the engineering team want to present it more closely with how it was originally meant to be presented?  Yeah, this new set sounds better than a lot of the last two sets, but still, that's a very weird decision to say you're going to present the album as originally intended, and then proceed to do the opposite and artificially inflate its "loudness!"

The booklet is very nice, and Howie's essay is fantastic, way better than the ones in the other booklets, which were quite nice, but this one goes into really nice detail about the period.  Kudos for the essay, and finally again, a sessionography!  But then, have you looked at the eyes of the Boys in the fold-out of the CD holder album -- they've apparently been totally screwed up by A.I. -- and I'll never get that mangled picture out of my head!  Who could let such a botched job like this go through?  (Seriously, though, if you haven't noticed it, don't look for it, because it will get burnt into your brain forever!)

The new Pet Sounds releases aren't all bad.  Colored vinyl is nice for those who like it, as are audiophile pressings.  I even received a later email stating that there's also a more expensive audiophile vinyl repressing using the tape that was used when repressing Pet Sounds for inclusion with Carl & The Passions So Tough!  That's a nice touch.  Would have been nice to include that in the space left over on the two CD set!  Or perhaps a SACD or DVD version of it?  But to only release sessions that have already been presented is such a cop-out.  Give us long-time fans something to REALLY look forward to!  PLUMP the DEPTHS of the archives!  And if you must, do a Kickstarter like pre-order so that you'll know how many to press, if that's what you're worried about, so you won't have the risk of lots of unsold units hanging about!  But, please, start to take REAL ADVANTAGE of the incredible music catalog that you thought was so great you purportedly paid $100 MILLION to $200 MILLION DOLLARS for!!!

I'm really sick of this wishy-washy attitude Iconic has brought to this great music.  It makes no sense.  You BOUGHT it!  Now go and make some REAL money from it!!!
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \ on: February 13, 2026, 07:10:02 PM
When I purchased my set from Capitol Records they told me it would ship on February 13.  Now this was after the other two places, UDiscover and BeachBoys.com had sold out.  So I thought, whew, I won't have to wait until for another FIVE WEEKS to get my box set!

WELL... NOW on FEB. 13... I just got an email from Capitol telling me that they would not send my box set until MARCH 27!!!  SIX WEEKS after  the launch today!!!!

I mean, yeah, I'lll still buy Beach Boys products as they roll out, but after the year-and-a-half delay of the original Pet Sounds box set, this has been the most $#&^@$!# roll-out of product!  It makes me extremely MAD!  I don't want to wait that long and have to read all the posts about the box set for SIX WEEKS until I get mine!!!

This is just flat out TOTAL INCOMPETENCE!!!  How could they possibly misjudge the amount of box sets they needed to make so that most everyone who wants one could get one???  In this day and age of instant gratification, and people talking about things online, it does your company absolutely no good if you can't get your product into the consumers hands when the product is hot!  

This whole thing just REEKS!!!

Now I have to stew for SIX G*****M MORE WEEKS until I can hear it!!!  SIX G*****M MORE WEEKS!!!

UN-F*****G-BELIEVABLE!!!

I wanted to join in on the fun of hearing and talking about the box set, but now I don't want to read anything more about it!  Because that will only make me madder!

Oh, and by the way, that email Capitol Records sent telling me the box set is delayed also made me have to tell them I still want the set, or my order WOULD BE AUTOMATICALLY CANCELLED!!!

Will someone please tell me why ICONIC spent so much for The Beach Boys' Catalog if this piddling, middling, fiddling box set and roll out is all they are gonna do???  How in the world do they expect to make back all the money they spent on buying the catalog?  Put the box set out in a timely fashion!  Don't give people the chance to easily cancel their pre-order when you can't fulfill that pre-order!  Put out different configurations of the box, such as CD only, LP only, and how about a super deluxe edition that has more than 3 CD's worth of material from 3 album projects?!  How about a 6, or 9, or 12 CD box set!?!  You could sell that for a pretty penny!  So many other bands are doing it!  Why is ICONIC just sitting on this material that's in the vault and not trying to sell as much as they can?!  Do they think there will be even more people in 10 or 20 or 30 years who want to buy this kind of product than there are now?!  

And if music companies are not making any money from streaming services, then get the product OUT THERE IN PHYSICAL FORM for people to pay you a proper amount for it!!!

I listened to the Jokerman Podcast with Howie, Jamie, and Alan Boyd, the other night and I was super-pumped to get the box set!!!  NOW I HAVE TO WAIT A MONTH AND A HALF BEFORE I HEAR IT!!!

Please, ICONIC, if you don't want to make money off your investment, then SELL it to someone who does!!!!

SIGNING OFF NOW -- I don't want to come back here, I don't want to read anything, or hear anything about the box set until I have it myself!!!

SIGNED -- A loyal, but UTTERLY DISGUSTED FAN!  No "Love and merci" to you, Iconic!


PS -- Yeah, yeah, I could just streem it now.  Except, I don't stream music.  That's not how I roll.  Even if I bought the QUBOZ extra fidelity downloads, I couldn't play them through any of my speakers, all I could do is listen to them through my computer's speakers, or on tiny little wired earplugs.  Doesn't do it for me.  Besides, I want the book and sessionography to read and enjoy when I listen to it the first few times.

PSS -- My friend, in the same boat as me, says the box set should be re-named, "We Gotta Wait!"
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Nice Overarching Interview with Van Dyke Parks on: February 10, 2026, 02:01:53 PM
It's just absolutely mind-blowing the life this man has led!  A career spanning interview, with a few Beach Boys' nuggets thrown in.




https://levidayan.substack.com/p/an-interview-with-van-dyke-parks
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \ on: February 09, 2026, 09:03:06 PM
Here's a new interview with Howie Edelson, James Saez, and... Alan Boyd!


https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-beach-boys-we-gotta-groove-with-howie-edelson/id1519299517?i=1000748895241
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \ on: February 09, 2026, 06:50:39 PM
I saw you can now buy the regular We Gotta Groove package at Sound Of Vinyl!  It has the later March 20 release date.

ALSO... you can buy the Japanese 3CD set at Deep Discount for $48!  (Though it was cheaper at ImportCDS.com.)  Deep Discount's release date is past us already, as they list Feb. 6 as the release date.

And I forget, are we going to be able to watch the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame interview on Thursday night live?  Or perhaps recorded afterwards? 
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11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Brian Wilson’s Rare Live Recordings -- RSD Release 2026 on: February 05, 2026, 03:34:18 PM
https://parade.com/news/brian-wilson-rare-live-recordings-record-store-day


You've got to read the whole article to get hints about the tracklist.
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \ on: February 03, 2026, 03:51:09 AM
I could not find the BeachBoys Talk podcast when I looked for it today on their YouTube site!  Does anyone have a link?
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: BB85 Reissue Soon with Extras? on: February 01, 2026, 02:19:48 AM
Steve Levine on Sail On:  https://sailon.podbean.com/e/bonus-episode-12-steve-levine/


Hey Bedroom, any chance you could give a quick summary of what Steve says in this podcast?  I don't want to listen to the whole hour if it's not worth it.  Thanks!


Hope you don't mind if I chime in. Steve talks mostly about his work, meaning the production and the work with the synths but also how the Boys (especially Brian and Carl) felt about the possibilitites this new technology offered. If you're into that kind of stuff you should check this out. As seen in other videos, Levine seems like a really nice guy who is very fond of his work with the Beach Boys.




Thanks, I hope I have time to listen to it.  So... he didn't give any concrete info about when the album would be released, I assume?
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \ on: January 31, 2026, 02:32:14 PM
I got this info over at the other board...

Capitol Music is selling the big box set, and if you use VIP20 as a discount code you'll get 20% off, making it a cool $100.  (Plus $6.00 shipping fee.)  I don't know if you need to to sign up for email ads at the bottom to be able to use the VIP20 code.  I went ahead and signed up and then used the code without checking my email.  I'm betting you can just use the code without adding your name to their mailing list.  Just go the site below to get there...

shop.capitolmusic.com/products/we-gotta-groove-the-brother-studio-years


Also, IMPORTCDS.com is selling the Japanese 3 CD set for about $40 (at least yesterday they were), with only a $2.99 fee for shipping!  (I'm quoting shipping fees for the U.S. of course.  I don't know what foreign fees would be.)

Happy hunting!
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: BB85 Reissue Soon with Extras? on: January 31, 2026, 05:09:07 AM


Hey Bedroom, any chance you could give a quick summary of what Steve says in this podcast?  I don't want to listen to the whole hour if it's not worth it.  Thanks!
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: BB85 Reissue Soon with Extras? on: January 29, 2026, 10:50:05 PM


Nice!  And that was posted on January 23, 2026, just 6 days ago.  So apparently the project is still a go.  Now the question is how and when will we get it?  Will it be a stand-alone release, or will it be paired with another album in a boxed set?  And will it come out this year, or next?  Or even later?
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \ on: January 29, 2026, 07:34:52 PM
So the album is still "Sold Out" on UDiscover and The Beach Boys site.  Which makes it seem that the number crunchers have made a big mistake on this one.  (Unless, they really have manufactured more already and are just holding out to make it appear that it's in much higher demand than it really is -- which I wouldn't put past them.) But let's say that they did only manufacture only enough to make it possible for them to get all their money back plus the profit they expected to make.  That means they severely underestimated the demand for this product.  And if they did underestimate the demand then that means they probably could have made their assigned profit goal by selling different configurations, i.e., a 3 CD set only and an LP set only.  I mean, I don't have any numbers, but I'm guessing only a third of the people online have been able to pre-order the set, another third are purchasing the 3CD-only set from Japan, and another third are just not going to buy it because of the American configuration of CD/LP together.  It just seems like a serious miscalculation.

And since the LP/CD set is only being sold through UDiscover and The Beach Boys site, does that mean that if you're not in the ol' USofA you have to pay extra to have it shipped to your country?  That's even more alienation of the fan base!

Now I have no inside info, but I would be willing to bet that a 3CD only compilation will come out next year (or next holiday season), and will probably be sold through the usual outfits.  With The moves Iconic/BRI have made with this set everything just seems very calculated, verging on sinister.  And with all the under-crunching of the numbers, that means they probably could have made it a 4, or even a 5 CD set and just as easily have met their goals.  And, again, I have no qualms with the price because I would have bought both CD and LP sets, or bought this Super Deluxe version if it had been an option.  But I'm just flabbergasted at the continued "Sold Out" status of the set.  Did someone forget a "zero" or forget to "carry the one" at the end of their tabulations on what it would take to make a profit on this?  And as someone else said somewhere, this is not the time you want a "Sold Out" sign on your website, because this is the time when the internet was awash with the announcement of the set, and I'm guessing they're missing some sales because there are probably folks who would have pre-ordered right away, but by the time it's back in stock they will have forgotten about it and/or moved on to purchase something else.  It just boggles my mind to try to comprehend what the powers-to-be were thinking when they came up with this strategy.  It really comes across as very cynical.  Are fans of The Beach Boys really that much different in their purchasing habits as compared to Aerosimeth and Frank Zappa and Rush and others who just released boxed sets?  I guess we could be, but I sure would like to see the numbers on how we spend compared to how other fans spend for their band.
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \ on: January 29, 2026, 02:58:03 AM
Was checking the other forum/same thread, and someone mentioned there was a copyright dump and was wondering what in the copyright dump did not make it onto the new set.  Now I can't recall if they specifically said "this year's copyright dump," or if they were talking about a dump from a year or more ago.  So I looked through their thread titles but couldn't find anything that appeared to be about a copyright dump in the past month. 

So does anyone here know about any recent copyright dumps, or copyright dumps related to the new box set?
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \ on: January 28, 2026, 04:09:17 AM
Also, someone posted some more pictures in the other forum of the stained-glass window in Brothers Studios that the new cover artwork is taken from.  I was able to look closely at them both and can report they are definitely not the same.  The new box set has artwork that is definitely inspired by that window and is a very close match, but it's definitely not just a picture or an exact recreation of it.  I still love the box set cover, it's extremely beautiful, but would die for a great picture of the real window with sunlight streaming through it, too!  It's a real masterpiece of art, and I'm glad the new cover does it proud and is a great near copy of the masterpiece.
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \ on: January 28, 2026, 03:58:23 AM
I just checked out the new Zappa box, priced very reasonably -- 4 CD's and Blu-ray for $65!.  The new Aerosmith box is 3 CD's for $55!  So it's weird that the Beach Boy box can't be produced in different configurations.  Are they selling that much more of Zappa and Aerosmith than they are of The Beach Boys?  (Or does Mike need to have much higher price points for all his alimony?   Cheesy)

It seems they are trying to cut out the middleman and only sell it themselves, and making the tracklist short enough, (3 CD's instead of 4 or 5 or more,) so that they can configure a box set of both CD's and vinyl to get the absolute best percentage of earnings from each one sold, without it being too big of a price to stop people from buying it.  And if they're being that stingy about it, then why in the world would they license it to foreign companies who can then sell it cheaply as a 3 CD set!?  I'm really not following the logic of this, unless, as I said, Zappa and Aerosmith sell a whole lot more than The Beach Boys.  But that still doesn't explain why they let a foreign company do whatever they want.  I don't mind if they want to only sell it in-house and leave out the middleman.  But I sure would have liked a set with more than 3 CD's!  I, myself, don't have a problem with the price of the set, as I would bought both a CD set and an LP set if they were produced that way again, as I did with the other three recent boxed sets.

But if this is the way they're going to go now, then surely it would be worthwhile to finally go back and put out the other digital only releases as physical sets, no?  I'd love to have physical copies and brand new books/booklets to go with them!  They should be able to make money off of that!  Especially if they add a great sessionography like they did with SMiLE and how they're apparently doing with this release.


PS -- Julia, didn't the last set, Surf's Up, go way down in price at one point?  I know it's back up again, but it's a shame you missed it!  Feel Flows went down to less than $50 at one point, too!
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \ on: January 27, 2026, 03:16:00 AM
I never did understand the title, "Adult/Child."   But all of a sudden I thought I had a great inspiration.  Perhaps "Hey, Little Tomboy" and "Lazy Lizzie" were the child (teenager, really) part of the album and other songs were the "Adult" part of it.  So I went to look at the track list of the album and saw "Shortnin' Bread" (real child part) and was just about ready to launch into a Julia inspired deconstruction of the themes of the album...

...and then I noticed "Lazy Lizzie" isn't even part of the album, and no other other songs fit the child theme, (unless "Lines" and/or "It's Trying To Say" do -- but I can't remember what those lyrics are,) and so I was still stuck wondering what the heck inspired Brian to title this album as "Adult/Child."

FYI... to me, "Lazy Lizzie" is even creepier than "Hey, Little Tomboy!"  I still love both songs, though!  But I'm surprised that "Hey, Little Tomboy" didn't make the set considering "Lazy Lizzie" did.  (Geez, I hope this doesn't give the producers any bad ideas, like pulling the product and taking "Lazy Lizzie" off the set, and delaying it for another year!)

Also, I really don't understand why people think "I Want To Pick You Up" is creepy!  To me it's always been obvious that the song is about what a parent does with a real baby, despite the weird thing Brian might have said about it.  Who knows what state he was in when he made that remark?  (Not that I can recall exactly what he said, but I guess I do remember it leaning toward another take on the song.)  Anyway, I always thought it was just a clever way to start a song, and title it, because you think it's going to be about trying to date a girl, but you're swiftly thrown a curve and realize you've been tricked, and it's really a song about a parent and their baby.
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: BB85 Reissue Soon with Extras? on: January 23, 2026, 04:22:36 AM
It's weird that the video tag says it was posted 7 MONTHS AGO!  Why are we just hearing about this now?  (Or did I miss a thread?)  But even more weird, why didn't it come out last year DURING its anniversary year, as Steve Levine said it was planned to be?!
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \ on: January 23, 2026, 04:02:35 AM
That does make a cool blanket!  It doesn't say how big it is, though.  

I just learned the cover is taken from or based on a stained-glass window at Brother Studios.  Very cool.  Here's a link to a picture of the Boys beside it.  The real window is HUGE!  Like something you'd see in an old church.  And it's also not quite the same, is it?   I'd love to see a better picture of the real window!  Both appear to be masterpieces.


https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/d70662760193fa36aaee8b2cdbbf12e06c7383fc/0_0_2391_2952/master/2391.jpg?width=1140&dpr=2&s=none&crop=none


24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \ on: January 21, 2026, 11:15:56 PM
Just wanted to say I LOVE the cover art for the set!  I think that stained glass window is gorgeous, and the light streaming through it makes it even more heavenly.

Now... I don't know how it relates to The Beach Boys, per se, but in my mind it's their best cover since "Surf's Up!"  It's absolutely gorgeous!  

It should turn more than a few heads in the record stores!  (Oh, that's right, record stores aren't much of a thing anymore.  But hopefully it will turn more than a few eyes online!)

In regards to other comments, I, too, really like "Hey, Little Tomboy."  I think it and Lazy Lizzie are Brian trying to channel his 18-year-old self.  As Don Malcolm said, written from the viewpoint of a teenager.  Yeah, they're both a little cringe, (damn! I sound just like an 18-year old now, don't I?  So now I'm in the right time-frame.), but they're musically brilliant, and surely there's other old and modern songs on the airwaves (dang, forgot what era I'm in again,) I mean, on whatever streaming service you use that are just as "problematic?!"  No?!  

Hooray for the detailed sessionography!!!!

And thanks much for the review HeyJude, but I thought you teased you were going to give some concrete "spoilers" about upcoming projects?  Still waiting!!!  Wink



Love and merci,Dan Lega
25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Durrie Parks SMiLE acetates to be auctioned, Dec. 9-10 on: December 12, 2025, 01:44:29 AM
The auction's tomorrow. Apparently BRI is trying to procure them. There seems to have been some online bidding already.


If BRI wants them, why didn't they get them all those years ago when they would have been much cheaper?  There was no bidding required then.  Just a straight out purchase of $10.000 from some company Durrie gave them to to sell.  And they probably could have gotten them cheaper from Durrie, herself, as there would have been no middle man to pay.
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