When I purchased my set from Capitol Records they told me it would ship on February 13.  Now this was after the other two places, UDiscover and BeachBoys.com had sold out.  So I thought, whew, I won't have to wait until for another FIVE WEEKS to get my box set!

WELL... NOW on FEB. 13... I just got an email from Capitol telling me that they would not send my box set until MARCH 27!!!  SIX WEEKS after  the launch today!!!!

I mean, yeah, I'lll still buy Beach Boys products as they roll out, but after the year-and-a-half delay of the original Pet Sounds box set, this has been the most $#&^@$!# roll-out of product!  It makes me extremely MAD!  I don't want to wait that long and have to read all the posts about the box set for SIX WEEKS until I get mine!!!

This is just flat out TOTAL INCOMPETENCE!!!  How could they possibly misjudge the amount of box sets they needed to make so that most everyone who wants one could get one???  In this day and age of instant gratification, and people talking about things online, it does your company absolutely no good if you can't get your product into the consumers hands when the product is hot!  

This whole thing just REEKS!!!

Now I have to stew for SIX G*****M MORE WEEKS until I can hear it!!!  SIX G*****M MORE WEEKS!!!

UN-F*****G-BELIEVABLE!!!

I wanted to join in on the fun of hearing and talking about the box set, but now I don't want to read anything more about it!  Because that will only make me madder!

Oh, and by the way, that email Capitol Records sent telling me the box set is delayed also made me have to tell them I still want the set, or my order WOULD BE AUTOMATICALLY CANCELLED!!!

Will someone please tell me why ICONIC spent so much for The Beach Boys' Catalog if this piddling, middling, fiddling box set and roll out is all they are gonna do???  How in the world do they expect to make back all the money they spent on buying the catalog?  Put the box set out in a timely fashion!  Don't give people the chance to easily cancel their pre-order when you can't fulfill that pre-order!  Put out different configurations of the box, such as CD only, LP only, and how about a super deluxe edition that has more than 3 CD's worth of material from 3 album projects?!  How about a 6, or 9, or 12 CD box set!?!  You could sell that for a pretty penny!  So many other bands are doing it!  Why is ICONIC just sitting on this material that's in the vault and not trying to sell as much as they can?!  Do they think there will be even more people in 10 or 20 or 30 years who want to buy this kind of product than there are now?!  

And if music companies are not making any money from streaming services, then get the product OUT THERE IN PHYSICAL FORM for people to pay you a proper amount for it!!!

I listened to the Jokerman Podcast with Howie, Jamie, and Alan Boyd, the other night and I was super-pumped to get the box set!!!  NOW I HAVE TO WAIT A MONTH AND A HALF BEFORE I HEAR IT!!!

Please, ICONIC, if you don't want to make money off your investment, then SELL it to someone who does!!!!

SIGNING OFF NOW -- I don't want to come back here, I don't want to read anything, or hear anything about the box set until I have it myself!!!

SIGNED -- A loyal, but UTTERLY DISGUSTED FAN!  No "Love and merci" to you, Iconic!


PS -- Yeah, yeah, I could just streem it now.  Except, I don't stream music.  That's not how I roll.  Even if I bought the QUBOZ extra fidelity downloads, I couldn't play them through any of my speakers, all I could do is listen to them through my computer's speakers, or on tiny little wired earplugs.  Doesn't do it for me.  Besides, I want the book and sessionography to read and enjoy when I listen to it the first few times.

PSS -- My friend, in the same boat as me, says the box set should be re-named, "We Gotta Wait!"

It's just absolutely mind-blowing the life this man has led!  A career spanning interview, with a few Beach Boys' nuggets thrown in.




https://levidayan.substack.com/p/an-interview-with-van-dyke-parks

Here's a new interview with Howie Edelson, James Saez, and... Alan Boyd!


https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-beach-boys-we-gotta-groove-with-howie-edelson/id1519299517?i=1000748895241

I saw you can now buy the regular We Gotta Groove package at Sound Of Vinyl!  It has the later March 20 release date.

ALSO... you can buy the Japanese 3CD set at Deep Discount for $48!  (Though it was cheaper at ImportCDS.com.)  Deep Discount's release date is past us already, as they list Feb. 6 as the release date.

And I forget, are we going to be able to watch the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame interview on Thursday night live?  Or perhaps recorded afterwards? 
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https://parade.com/news/brian-wilson-rare-live-recordings-record-store-day


You've got to read the whole article to get hints about the tracklist.

I could not find the BeachBoys Talk podcast when I looked for it today on their YouTube site!  Does anyone have a link?

Steve Levine on Sail On:  https://sailon.podbean.com/e/bonus-episode-12-steve-levine/

Hey Bedroom, any chance you could give a quick summary of what Steve says in this podcast?  I don't want to listen to the whole hour if it's not worth it.  Thanks!

Hope you don't mind if I chime in. Steve talks mostly about his work, meaning the production and the work with the synths but also how the Boys (especially Brian and Carl) felt about the possibilitites this new technology offered. If you're into that kind of stuff you should check this out. As seen in other videos, Levine seems like a really nice guy who is very fond of his work with the Beach Boys.

Thanks, I hope I have time to listen to it.  So... he didn't give any concrete info about when the album would be released, I assume?

I got this info over at the other board...

Capitol Music is selling the big box set, and if you use VIP20 as a discount code you'll get 20% off, making it a cool $100.  (Plus $6.00 shipping fee.)  I don't know if you need to to sign up for email ads at the bottom to be able to use the VIP20 code.  I went ahead and signed up and then used the code without checking my email.  I'm betting you can just use the code without adding your name to their mailing list.  Just go the site below to get there...

shop.capitolmusic.com/products/we-gotta-groove-the-brother-studio-years


Also, IMPORTCDS.com is selling the Japanese 3 CD set for about $40 (at least yesterday they were), with only a $2.99 fee for shipping!  (I'm quoting shipping fees for the U.S. of course.  I don't know what foreign fees would be.)

Happy hunting!

Steve Levine on Sail On:  https://sailon.podbean.com/e/bonus-episode-12-steve-levine/

Hey Bedroom, any chance you could give a quick summary of what Steve says in this podcast?  I don't want to listen to the whole hour if it's not worth it.  Thanks!

Even more info:  https://youtu.be/wyb4XhakZf0?si=5LBr_SEVAO3QP7aN

Nice!  And that was posted on January 23, 2026, just 6 days ago.  So apparently the project is still a go.  Now the question is how and when will we get it?  Will it be a stand-alone release, or will it be paired with another album in a boxed set?  And will it come out this year, or next?  Or even later?

So the album is still "Sold Out" on UDiscover and The Beach Boys site.  Which makes it seem that the number crunchers have made a big mistake on this one.  (Unless, they really have manufactured more already and are just holding out to make it appear that it's in much higher demand than it really is -- which I wouldn't put past them.) But let's say that they did only manufacture only enough to make it possible for them to get all their money back plus the profit they expected to make.  That means they severely underestimated the demand for this product.  And if they did underestimate the demand then that means they probably could have made their assigned profit goal by selling different configurations, i.e., a 3 CD set only and an LP set only.  I mean, I don't have any numbers, but I'm guessing only a third of the people online have been able to pre-order the set, another third are purchasing the 3CD-only set from Japan, and another third are just not going to buy it because of the American configuration of CD/LP together.  It just seems like a serious miscalculation.

And since the LP/CD set is only being sold through UDiscover and The Beach Boys site, does that mean that if you're not in the ol' USofA you have to pay extra to have it shipped to your country?  That's even more alienation of the fan base!

Now I have no inside info, but I would be willing to bet that a 3CD only compilation will come out next year (or next holiday season), and will probably be sold through the usual outfits.  With The moves Iconic/BRI have made with this set everything just seems very calculated, verging on sinister.  And with all the under-crunching of the numbers, that means they probably could have made it a 4, or even a 5 CD set and just as easily have met their goals.  And, again, I have no qualms with the price because I would have bought both CD and LP sets, or bought this Super Deluxe version if it had been an option.  But I'm just flabbergasted at the continued "Sold Out" status of the set.  Did someone forget a "zero" or forget to "carry the one" at the end of their tabulations on what it would take to make a profit on this?  And as someone else said somewhere, this is not the time you want a "Sold Out" sign on your website, because this is the time when the internet was awash with the announcement of the set, and I'm guessing they're missing some sales because there are probably folks who would have pre-ordered right away, but by the time it's back in stock they will have forgotten about it and/or moved on to purchase something else.  It just boggles my mind to try to comprehend what the powers-to-be were thinking when they came up with this strategy.  It really comes across as very cynical.  Are fans of The Beach Boys really that much different in their purchasing habits as compared to Aerosimeth and Frank Zappa and Rush and others who just released boxed sets?  I guess we could be, but I sure would like to see the numbers on how we spend compared to how other fans spend for their band.

Was checking the other forum/same thread, and someone mentioned there was a copyright dump and was wondering what in the copyright dump did not make it onto the new set.  Now I can't recall if they specifically said "this year's copyright dump," or if they were talking about a dump from a year or more ago.  So I looked through their thread titles but couldn't find anything that appeared to be about a copyright dump in the past month. 

So does anyone here know about any recent copyright dumps, or copyright dumps related to the new box set?

Also, someone posted some more pictures in the other forum of the stained-glass window in Brothers Studios that the new cover artwork is taken from.  I was able to look closely at them both and can report they are definitely not the same.  The new box set has artwork that is definitely inspired by that window and is a very close match, but it's definitely not just a picture or an exact recreation of it.  I still love the box set cover, it's extremely beautiful, but would die for a great picture of the real window with sunlight streaming through it, too!  It's a real masterpiece of art, and I'm glad the new cover does it proud and is a great near copy of the masterpiece.

I just checked out the new Zappa box, priced very reasonably -- 4 CD's and Blu-ray for $65!.  The new Aerosmith box is 3 CD's for $55!  So it's weird that the Beach Boy box can't be produced in different configurations.  Are they selling that much more of Zappa and Aerosmith than they are of The Beach Boys?  (Or does Mike need to have much higher price points for all his alimony?   )

It seems they are trying to cut out the middleman and only sell it themselves, and making the tracklist short enough, (3 CD's instead of 4 or 5 or more,) so that they can configure a box set of both CD's and vinyl to get the absolute best percentage of earnings from each one sold, without it being too big of a price to stop people from buying it.  And if they're being that stingy about it, then why in the world would they license it to foreign companies who can then sell it cheaply as a 3 CD set!?  I'm really not following the logic of this, unless, as I said, Zappa and Aerosmith sell a whole lot more than The Beach Boys.  But that still doesn't explain why they let a foreign company do whatever they want.  I don't mind if they want to only sell it in-house and leave out the middleman.  But I sure would have liked a set with more than 3 CD's!  I, myself, don't have a problem with the price of the set, as I would bought both a CD set and an LP set if they were produced that way again, as I did with the other three recent boxed sets.

But if this is the way they're going to go now, then surely it would be worthwhile to finally go back and put out the other digital only releases as physical sets, no?  I'd love to have physical copies and brand new books/booklets to go with them!  They should be able to make money off of that!  Especially if they add a great sessionography like they did with SMiLE and how they're apparently doing with this release.


PS -- Julia, didn't the last set, Surf's Up, go way down in price at one point?  I know it's back up again, but it's a shame you missed it!  Feel Flows went down to less than $50 at one point, too!

[still]

I never did understand the title, "Adult/Child."   But all of a sudden I thought I had a great inspiration.  Perhaps "Hey, Little Tomboy" and "Lazy Lizzie" were the child (teenager, really) part of the album and other songs were the "Adult" part of it.  So I went to look at the track list of the album and saw "Shortnin' Bread" (real child part) and was just about ready to launch into a Julia inspired deconstruction of the themes of the album...

...and then I noticed "Lazy Lizzie" isn't even part of the album, and no other other songs fit the child theme, (unless "Lines" and/or "It's Trying To Say" do -- but I can't remember what those lyrics are,) and so I was still stuck wondering what the heck inspired Brian to title this album as "Adult/Child."

FYI... to me, "Lazy Lizzie" is even creepier than "Hey, Little Tomboy!"  I still love both songs, though!  But I'm surprised that "Hey, Little Tomboy" didn't make the set considering "Lazy Lizzie" did.  (Geez, I hope this doesn't give the producers any bad ideas, like pulling the product and taking "Lazy Lizzie" off the set, and delaying it for another year!)

Also, I really don't understand why people think "I Want To Pick You Up" is creepy!  To me it's always been obvious that the song is about what a parent does with a real baby, despite the weird thing Brian might have said about it.  Who knows what state he was in when he made that remark?  (Not that I can recall exactly what he said, but I guess I do remember it leaning toward another take on the song.)  Anyway, I always thought it was just a clever way to start a song, and title it, because you think it's going to be about trying to date a girl, but you're swiftly thrown a curve and realize you've been tricked, and it's really a song about a parent and their baby.

It's weird that the video tag says it was posted 7 MONTHS AGO!  Why are we just hearing about this now?  (Or did I miss a thread?)  But even more weird, why didn't it come out last year DURING its anniversary year, as Steve Levine said it was planned to be?!

That does make a cool blanket!  It doesn't say how big it is, though.  

I just learned the cover is taken from or based on a stained-glass window at Brother Studios.  Very cool.  Here's a link to a picture of the Boys beside it.  The real window is HUGE!  Like something you'd see in an old church.  And it's also not quite the same, is it?   I'd love to see a better picture of the real window!  Both appear to be masterpieces.


https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/d70662760193fa36aaee8b2cdbbf12e06c7383fc/0_0_2391_2952/master/2391.jpg?width=1140&dpr=2&s=none&crop=none

Just wanted to say I LOVE the cover art for the set!  I think that stained glass window is gorgeous, and the light streaming through it makes it even more heavenly.

Now... I don't know how it relates to The Beach Boys, per se, but in my mind it's their best cover since "Surf's Up!"  It's absolutely gorgeous!  

It should turn more than a few heads in the record stores!  (Oh, that's right, record stores aren't much of a thing anymore.  But hopefully it will turn more than a few eyes online!)

In regards to other comments, I, too, really like "Hey, Little Tomboy."  I think it and Lazy Lizzie are Brian trying to channel his 18-year-old self.  As Don Malcolm said, written from the viewpoint of a teenager.  Yeah, they're both a little cringe, (damn! I sound just like an 18-year old now, don't I?  So now I'm in the right time-frame.), but they're musically brilliant, and surely there's other old and modern songs on the airwaves (dang, forgot what era I'm in again,) I mean, on whatever streaming service you use that are just as "problematic?!"  No?!  

Hooray for the detailed sessionography!!!!

And thanks much for the review HeyJude, but I thought you teased you were going to give some concrete "spoilers" about upcoming projects?  Still waiting!!!  



Love and merci,Dan Lega

The auction's tomorrow. Apparently BRI is trying to procure them. There seems to have been some online bidding already.

If BRI wants them, why didn't they get them all those years ago when they would have been much cheaper?  There was no bidding required then.  Just a straight out purchase of $10.000 from some company Durrie gave them to to sell.  And they probably could have gotten them cheaper from Durrie, herself, as there would have been no middle man to pay.

[3. APPLE IS MAKING THE SAME MISTAKES AS THE BEACH BOYS’ LEGACY TEAM]

I found this very interesting!  "The Riff Report," an online site, equates the new Beatles Anthology 4 release with mistakes The Beach Boys' releases have made recently!  Apparently the new Beatles release only reached #48 in the charts, while all the other original releases charted at #1.

You can read the whole thing at the site below...

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https://theriffreport.co.uk/05/12/2025/%F0%9F%A4%98-the-beatles-anthology-4-face-planted-at-48-and-fans-are-tamping-mun/

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3. APPLE IS MAKING THE SAME MISTAKES AS THE BEACH BOYS’ LEGACY TEAM

That’s right — we’ve reached the “Beach Boys comparison” level.
And that’s never a good thing. 😬

Like the Boys’ management, Apple seems obsessed with:

Appeasing newer fans
Polishing everything too clean
Forgetting who buys the physical products
Forgetting who’s been loyal for sixty flipping years
The Anthology sets were MADE for hardcore fans.
Not TikTok day-trippers.

You can’t alienate your base and expect the charts to stay tidy.

Julia, I love your enthusiasm!  Regarding "Wonderful" and "I Ran," I have no idea if I'm singing the two songs in the right keys in my head, but I can hear the one flowing into the other very nicely.   We'll probably never know if any of your speculation is correct, unless Van Dyke finally really spills some beans in the autobiography he said he was working on -- which I dearly hope is the case!

I can see why they didn't use it on the documentary -- you can't hear a thing over the crashing waves!

But if it had been recorded in a way that the sounds of the waves weren't so prominent it would have been great!

And... maybe you could bring Peter Jackson in to delete the sounds of the waves!

Are these panels usually taped and made available online?  Or is there a press corps that writes extensively about them?

I hope this shows up readable -- as it's always iffy when copying and pasting things like this into another format.  Here's the link if you want to read it there...  https://www.mixonline.com/events/aes-show-2025-to-feature-brian-wilson-and-the-beach-boys-session

I wonder if Mark will get questions about why he's not doing the Beach Boys' products anymore, and why so many of the latest releases didn't sound as good as the previous releases?


AES Show 2025 to Feature Brian Wilson and the Beach Boys Session
Grammy-winning engineer/producer Mark Linett and acclaimed producer Warren Huart discuss ‘Pet Sounds’ and ‘SMiLE.’

By Mix Staff

Published: 08/28/2025


New York, N.Y. (August 28, 2025)—The Audio Engineering Society has announced a featured session on Brian Wilson and the Beach Boys’ Pet Sounds and SMiLE projects at the AES Show 2025 in Long Beach, Calif.

“Inside the Productions of Brian Wilson: Grammy-winning Engineer/Producer Mark Linett in Conversation with Warren Huart” will take place Friday, October 24, from 2:30 p.m. to 4:00 p.m. PDT. Legendary engineer and producer Mark Linett, a three-time Grammy winner, will join acclaimed producer and Produce Like a Pro host Warren Huart for an intimate exploration of one of the most ambitious recording journeys in popular music history.


Mark Linett
From the lush orchestration of Pet Sounds to the long-mythologized and ultimately completed SMiLE project, Linett has played a central role in preserving and presenting Wilson’s legacy for modern audiences. His work on The Pet Sounds Sessions box set, featuring the album’s first-ever stereo mix, earned a Grammy nomination and set a new standard for archival reissues. He also recorded and mixed Pet Sounds Live and Brian Wilson Presents SMiLE in both stereo and 5.1 surround formats, offering fans immersive experiences of these timeless works.


Warren Huart
The session will offer attendees behind-the-scenes insights into the studio techniques, challenges and creative decisions that shaped Wilson’s most iconic projects. Drawing from a 50-year career, Linett will also discuss his work on celebrated Beach Boys box sets including Good Vibrations: Thirty Years of the Beach Boys, Made in California (1962–2012), Feel Flows: The Sunflower & Surf’s Up Sessions 1969–1971, and Sail on Sailor.

Beyond his collaboration with Wilson, Linett’s extensive credits include projects with Randy Newman, Rickie Lee Jones, Jane’s Addiction, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Los Lobos and Laura Nyro, among others.

Discover more great stories—get a free Mix SmartBrief subscription!
The AES Show 2025 will take place October 22–25, 2025, at the Long Beach Convention & Entertainment Center.

Well, I love the fact that I can hear the tubular bells in there!  It's been so long since I've listened to all my SMiLE sessions that I can't recall if I ever even noticed them before.  Especially that ascending line that's played.  Another little hidden gem in SMiLE!

Can't say I would ever think of using it in H&V, but don't let that stop you!