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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Sagittarius and Heroes & Villains
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on: October 26, 2011, 11:59:01 AM
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Wow - never saw a Heroes and Villains connection, but the song has a very similar structure to Good Vibrations (except for the middle break SFX). Didn't this song contribute to Brian's fear that people were stealing his ideas by listening to session tapes at the studios he was using. The SFX on My World Fell Down remind me of the bridge of Wonderful from Smiley Smile (in feel anyway).
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: SMiLE Sessions box set!
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on: August 30, 2011, 01:52:49 PM
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2. Gee (0:51) - ? 3. Heroes And Villains (4:53) - that's longer than BWPS - in fact its very long - not the Cantina version either 7. My Only Sunshine (The Old Master Painter / You Are My Sunshine) (1:57) - normalish 2 & 3 look like the BWPS Heroes and Villains with Gee split off by itself (my guess). 7 might have false barnyard added back on (again, my guess).
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: SMiLE Sessions box set!
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on: August 28, 2011, 03:44:48 PM
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"Animals" = 'Swedish frog' grunts & groans ?
Also, now we have sections of "H&V" logged as parts 3 and parts 4, does this invalidate the notion of a part 1/part 2 single ? maybe we've got a "Surf's Up" pt. 2 scenario here. Discuss.
That is a good point, but what, then, could the 45 b-side titled Part 2 be? Maybe they're just calling Sections from the GVbox Part 2... I, too, suspect that "Animals" is the swedish frog section. Didn't Brian use 2 different master numbers for Heroes and Villains? Isn't this some of the strongest evidence for the much rumored 2-part Heroes and Villains. If the booklet for the SMiLE sessions lists master numbers for all sessions maybe we'll get a solid answer. Of course we'll have to see what the H & V part 1 & 2 on the 2 disc set and 45 add up to.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: SMiLE Sessions box set!
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on: August 28, 2011, 01:42:05 PM
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Maybe - if it gets put on Youtube. I'm dying to hear what the Heroes and Villains part 1 & 2 sounds like, but I will still buy the box set and 2 cd set and LP set! I guess I owe it to the band after all the sneaking around with less than legal SMiLE stuff. Plus the button looks slick as hell!
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: SMiLE Sessions box set!
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on: August 28, 2011, 01:32:52 PM
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I wonder - how much of the session stuff (as opposed to the songs on Disc 1)will be in stereo. I haven't seen anyone mention this yet - we could be seeing a whole new era of SMiLE fan-mixes! Heroes and Villains and Good Vibrations may now come in 8 - 9 minute stereo mixes. I guess now we're all waiting for someone to list the song times for the Disc 1 and the 5 Disc sessions box. This is gonna be one hell-of-a long September and October!
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: SMiLE Sessions box set!
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on: August 28, 2011, 01:15:58 PM
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6. Heroes and Villains Intro (Early Version) circa 12/66 7. Heroes And Villains: Do A Lot [Heroes And Villains Session: 1/3/67] 8. Heroes And Villains: Bag Of Tricks [Heroes And Villains Session: 1/3/67] 9. Heroes And Villains: Mission Pak [Heroes And Villains Session: 1/3/67]
I think "Mission Pak" will turn out to be something we already know, but called something else like "Indian Wisdom" or suchlike. Could this be the "bells" intro that's been booted before. Maybe those were mission bells? What is a pak?
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Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Reading Psychedelia
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on: August 01, 2011, 05:11:02 PM
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I don't know how many people read it in 1965(the year it was published), but The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch by Philip K. Dick is a great drugged up sci-fi nightmare about drugs and God and religion and Barbie(sort of). I once noticed a strange connection between this book and some of the music and ideas in Captain Beefheart's second album(Strictly Personal). Really had me scratching my head at the time.
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Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Psychedelic Classics
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on: May 20, 2011, 11:46:55 AM
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3. Intro/Shine A Light/Electric Mainline - Spiritualized (from the Albert Hall album) 6. Sometimes - Spacemen 3 12. Sister Ray - The Velvet Underground 13. May The Circle Be Unbroken - Spacemen 3
The Spacemen 3 were/are THE 80's psych/space rock band! I always dug Walking With Jesus, and their covers of Rollercoaster and Transparent Radiation are what turned me on to The 13th Floor Elevators and The Red Crayola! I remember some clever fella edited some 70's porn with Spiritualized as the soundtrack and put it on the internet - it woulda worked better with Barbarella( I think). Of course Sister Ray is a stone classic - influenced tons of the noise/indie/improv bands from the 70's and 80's (and beyond). I remember hearing Smiley Smile for the first time - is it one of the great under-sung influences on all the low-fi/DIY/indie stuff from the same time (70's and 80's).? Uh, maybe I'm the only one who thinks that.
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Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Questions on a movie and tv show I remember from my childhood
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on: May 18, 2011, 07:28:01 PM
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I also remember seeing the John Lennon bit - wasn't it a Hollywood Babylon type special on VH1(maybe that's where I saw it, but I don't know if that's who made it)? I do remember the scene you described, but wasn't John supposed to be with that Chinese chick that he dated while he and Yoko had broke up? I also remember that they made the NY cop look like a total dumb-ass (ha ha )!
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Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Psychedelic Classics
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on: May 18, 2011, 01:30:05 PM
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Quick question: are there any seminal ESP compilations anyone can squarely recommend?
I can't help you there...ESP Records was mostly known as a free-jazz/avant-garde jazz label (Albert Ayler, Sun Ra, etc.), but they did put out a goodly amount of rock/psyche/folk. The only compilation I remember was mostly jazz stuff. You might try Youtube to sample a few songs by some of the rock-type stuff. The Fugs, Cromagnon and The Godz (can't believe I didn't mention The Godz - Contact High With the Godz!) all did great stuff. Ed Askew was good too, but more folk, at least to my ears. ...for an ESP unrelated aside... Skip Spence - Oar A pretty good/great psyche record. I never have dug Moby Gape (Skip was in that band), but I dig this record.
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Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Psychedelic Classics
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on: May 16, 2011, 04:08:42 PM
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Cromagnon - Orgasm The Fugs - The Fugs, Tenderness Junction Pearls Before Swine - One Nation Underground, Balaklava
WOW! ESP stuff - that's even weirder than The Red Crayola! Thanks for taking the heat off me - Ha Ha. I guess this stuff is more hard psych as opposed to psych-pop.
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Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Psychedelic Classics
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on: May 16, 2011, 11:39:25 AM
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The 13th Floor Elevators - The Psychedelic Sounds of The 13th Floor Elevators The Red Crayola - The Parable of Arable Land
Both Texas bands! The 13th Floor Elevators album is more song-based, while the Red Crayola album is much more CRAZY sounding with lots of instrumental music (called Free-Form Freak Outs in the track lists).
John Fahey - The Voice of The Turtle NOT a psychedelic album proper - but pretty damn close in feel. Of course John hated psychedelic music and swore that he had NEVER used LSD - but he did admit to smoking pot - so who knows?!
This stuff is all left-field I guess...maybe better suited to when and if you feel VERY adventurous.
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Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Cover songs better than their original
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on: May 08, 2011, 03:07:31 PM
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It's a slow day (sorry Mom! ) Elvis Presley - Good Rocking Tonight (original Roy Brown) Jerry Lee Lewis - Whole Lotta Shakin' Goin' On (original Big Maybelle) Link Wray - Hidden Charms (original Charles Clark, but also beats every other version I've heard!) Doors - Back Door Man (original Howlin' Wolf) Black Flag - Louie Louie (original The Kingsmen), my favorite version and the funniest lyrics! Ray Charles - Modern Sounds in Country and Western music (original lotta people), better version of all of 'em except the Buck Owens stuff.
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Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Favorite instrumentals
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on: May 03, 2011, 12:28:23 PM
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Quiet Village (Moog version) - Martin Denny Lisbon Antigua - Nelson Riddle Possession - Les Baxter/Samuel Hoffman Singing Sea Shells - Les Baxter Chopin's Prelude in E Minor (Moog version) - Les Baxter Stranger On The Shore - Acker Bilk Diamond Head - Beach Boys Let's Go Away For Awhile - Beach Boys Rumble - Link Wray Moonlight Love - Link Wray Latin'ia - The Sentinals Lonely Woman - Ornette Coleman The Portland Cement Factory At Monolith California - John Fahey
Plus - lots more stuff by John Fahey, Jimmy Giuffre & Albert Ayler.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: SMiLE Sessions box set!
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on: March 15, 2011, 09:22:07 AM
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Here's my guess at the release date: before the 2012 Grammy cutoff, which is I think early October. Gotta be a shoe-in for the Historical award.
Unless, of course, there's a New Vaudeville Band 1966 sessions box due this summer.
It'll be released on December 21st, 2012. It will be released at the exact same time everywhere on planet Earth. Women and children will rejoice, singing the praises of Brian Wilson. Grown men will weep. Then the Sun will crash into the Earth, and end any trace of human civilisation. And before the Sun makes contact with the Earth, in that one brief fraction of a second...we will have world peace. Relax. The world isn't coming to an end until next year, at least according to Nostradamus. The sooner Capitol releases "Smile" the more months we'll have to enjoy it, with what months are remaining. Hope you don't REALLY believe in that end of the world crap, but if you do than you are in the good company of George Lucas , so may the force be with you. Any time I start believing this "end of times" junk I go and look at the empty 50 pound plastic barrel that sits in my garage. It was supposed to hold water for my family during the destruction of Western civilization brought on by Y2K!
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mark Linett Billboard Interview About SMiLE
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on: March 15, 2011, 09:14:07 AM
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...I, too, believe that "Vegetables" incorporates the use of drugs in a subtext...
WOW! Never noticed that before. Here's something: I was playing Hawthorne, CA. on the car stereo when the "Vegetables Promo" came on. My wife, who teaches Elementary School, says the chant about, "Where's my beet, and my carrot" is a homophone, meaning beet = beat. I think she's right about this. Didn't someone use a carrot as a percussion instrument on this track ("Vegetables")? The carrot keeps the beat! I love all this weird and goofy stuff that keeps popping up! Also, I did get my wife to teach her kids the "Vegetables" song to sing at some assembly. Considering the drug stuff I maybe better knock that off!
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