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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: “A Postcard from California” Reissues on: July 27, 2021, 05:00:14 PM
I suppose that Al refered to Waves of Love 2.0 as the West Coast version.

I know Al previous teased a "west coast mix", but it's definitely different from the "2.0" mix. (I dunno; is the 2.0 version an "East Coast Mix"?). So he has released two new vastly different (from each other) remixes of the song this year.

It's only going to get more confusing, because at least on YouTube and Spotify where I checked, this new "West Coast Mix" is not labeled. It's just the latest version of "Waves of Love" uploaded a week or two ago.

You are totally correct. The 2.0 mix is mentioned as the East Coast mix on Al's web site. And the version of the re-released digital Postcard is difinitely a NEW mix! I think it's the West Coast Mix.
Al can make his second solo album named "Waves of Love" with 3 or 4 more versions! Grin
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: “A Postcard from California” Reissues on: July 27, 2021, 03:48:38 AM
The new reissue is now available on download/streaming services. The “West Coast” version of “Waves of Love” sounds very similar to one of the previously released mixes, perhaps with some new vocals? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXp2MC8IZ9I


I suppose that Al refered to Waves of Love 2.0 as the West Coast version.
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: May 20, 2021, 12:01:33 AM
"On the horizon" doesn't sound like this week 😂

It's the place we can't go near... Grin
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Spirit of Rock N Roll - Hallmark (Songs from Here and Back) version on: February 14, 2021, 11:04:58 PM
To me, the singing/harmonizing ("wall of Brians") in the intro is "off key" or "off pitch".  It just doesn't sound good.  How did it slip through QA/QC steps for the album?   

I agree with you. Brian's lead vocal of the intro is off pitch. It doesn't match the pitch of the backing vocals.
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of... on: May 16, 2018, 07:08:10 AM
Here is my concept of "Sounds of Summer vo.2".

1 And Your Dream Come True
2 Good Timin'
3 Night Wwas So Young
4 Kiss Me Baby
5 Surf's Up

6 Island Fever (UK version)
7 Add Some Music
8 Then I Kissed Her
9 Breakaway (alternate version)
10 Girls on The Beach
11 Disney Girls

12 Cotton Fields (stereo single version)
13 Sail on Sailor
14 This Whole World
15 All I Wanna Do (the Sunflower track)
16 Till I Die
17 Aii This Is That

!8 Why Do Fools Fall in Love (with a piano intro)
19 The Little Gril I Once Knew (alternate stereo version)
20 Shelter
21 Forever
22 All Summer Long
23 Your Summer Dream
24 Summer in Paradise (live version with the Knebworth live intro)
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Beach Boys - Love (fanmix album) on: April 29, 2017, 11:04:48 PM

Hi rab2591, I made my mix a few years ago. although it may not fit your concept...

Here is
Wind Chimes/Don't Talk https://youtu.be/EKbYIN3OHVI

Hope to enjoy and I would appreciate any comments about this track.
Thank you.
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Christmas 1977 on: December 25, 2016, 06:44:03 PM
Didn't the planned 1977 Christmas album get scrapped and then turned into M.I.U album?

Bingo, same with Adult/Child and California Feeling.

“The both albums were recorded in tandem“
see AGD's website
http://esquarterly.com/bellagio/unreleased.html
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Sunflower on SACD on: July 16, 2016, 08:01:22 PM
Sangheon, the SACD presentation seems much less "open" to me than what I have grown accustomed to hearing on the earlier CD's. The lead vocals are remarkably clear and strike me as being more prominent than on prior CD 's. I'm in a minority (of one) in thinking that some of the other vocals are too low in the . . . whatever the correct term is. But I no longer doubt that what I'm hearing is true to the original vinyl release. My (low-end) turntable has been in mothballs since I bought a receiver without the required inputs, and I haven't listened to vinyl in many years. So I guess the SACD will become my "vinyl" copy.

Bill Ed Thank you for your comments.
My copy finally arrived, and I listened it several times. My impression about lead vocals is similar to yours. those are very upfront compared to the mix of the earlier CDs. and as you said, the background vocals and tracks are little low, thereby it sounds like there is wide range between lead vocals and bg vocals etc.
So, perhaps because of the range, this SACD is little bit of three dimensional-esque sound to my ears.
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Sunflower on SACD on: July 08, 2016, 01:02:32 AM
Thank you, Bill.
How is the new stereo mix  different?
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Sunflower on SACD on: July 07, 2016, 08:31:26 PM

I ordered it!
 Is there the mono version on the  SACD?
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson's Secret Bedroom Tapes - LA Weekly 1-30-14 on: February 27, 2016, 06:06:36 AM

My Little Red Book
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHoJx0eow68

I was surprised to find this!

Here is a longer version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klcy1YKhI5o
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson's Secret Bedroom Tapes - LA Weekly 1-30-14 on: February 27, 2016, 06:03:33 AM

My Little Red Book
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHoJx0eow68

I was surprised to find this!
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Another Japanese reissue programme. on: February 17, 2016, 05:50:42 PM


I sure hope we could get something that has yet to be released! you never know until its officially announced!  Smokin

Here is Wild Honey shm-cd reissue's tracklisting.(universal japan's web site.japanese only)
The bonus track is their hearts were full of spring time only.
I guess 2000 remaster's master were used for this shm reissues.
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Another Japanese reissue programme. on: February 16, 2016, 05:31:36 PM
The traklistings on this shm-CD reissue is same as 2000 remaster CDs.
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What is the original? - Carl and The Passions So Tough. on: January 11, 2016, 02:51:29 AM
I guess it would be really nice if we have the thread that anyone can upload the photo of the labels, the matrix number and the covers each their own album.
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What is the original? - Carl and The Passions So Tough. on: January 09, 2016, 07:31:48 AM

Thank you for posting these photos! Alan Smith and bgas!
I've never seen these photos!

 
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What is the original? - Carl and The Passions So Tough. on: January 09, 2016, 07:27:57 AM
From my copy's matrix number, the original lacquer may have been used for a pressing of my So tough disc?

Yes, I believe both or your discs are from the original lacquer since there is no "RECUT" notation with the matrix information.  Any number of stampers may have been made from that lacquer, but sonically they should all be virtually identical.

Lee

Thank you, Lee! I will check the site you reffered!
and I guess the reason why they didn't need Recut is the original lacquer still wasn't damaged caused the poor sales...
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What is the original? - Carl and The Passions So Tough. on: January 07, 2016, 04:37:43 AM
In addition to the label info from Lee, another really easy way to tell if you have a pre-1975 (or so) pressing of Pet Sounds on Brother/Reprise is the presence of a large black rectangle above the Brother/Reprise logo obscuring the word STEREO, which was preprinted in blue on the label above the logo on the original issues of Sunflower in 1970 thru the single Pet Sounds reissue in 1974. By the time 15 Big Ones Appeared in 1976 the newer label, which sanghoen has, was in use, and the word STEREO disappeared from the blue preprinted portions of the label.

The innergoove info etched into my 1974 copy of the single Pet Sounds reissue is absolutely identical from a handwriting standpoint, as well as the placement of the Artisan logo, to my 1972 CATPST/PS disc, except that on the 1974 single PS disc the "2MS2083" is rather lightly scratched out on both sides, with two long horizontal lines and over a dozen short diagonal lines, and "MS2197" has been added, etched in rather lightly.

I purchased an additional new copy of the CATPST/PS twofer in 1979, but by this time a new master had been made for PS, so rather than reading (on Side 1) "2MS-2083  11452-1A" with the Artisan logo, my 1979 copy reads "2MS-2083 (11452) REC #1 LW1" with no Artisan logo. Lee, I'd be interested to know what the "REC #1" and "LW1" denote.  

Another question for Lee or others in the know - How many pressing plants did Warner Bros use? My recollection is that they did not own their own plants, but farmed their work out. Is that correct? Along those lines, I'm still fascinated by the Steamboat 45s, as here in California I never saw a steamboat labeled BB 45 after Add Some Music, and was quite surprised many years later to learn of their existence. All the California 45s I encountered were pressed on vinyl, but I have seen copies of ASM pressed on polystyrene, which I would assume would denote a different pressing plant.

Custom Machine
Thank you for your comments!
I don't know much about these label variations. but interesting!

Steamboat?? I want to see it once!
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What is the original? - Carl and The Passions So Tough. on: January 07, 2016, 04:31:29 AM
Very interesting!  I have a couple of copies of the CATP/PS two-fer right here, and they both feature the old Warner Brothers logo.  I have a still-sealed copy, but I'm not about to open it up to see which labels it has.

So this means that CATP/PS was still in print as of 1975.  My theory is that after the resurgence of the group with ENDLESS SUMMER and SPIRIT OF AMERICA (and perhaps also after the use of "Wouldn't It Be Nice" in the 1975 hit movie Shampoo), Warner/Reprise may have ordered a new pressing of CATP/PS.  So the order would have been:

1972: CARL & THE PASSIONS / PET SOUNDS two-fer (original release; Warner Brothers info on label)
1974: PET SOUNDS single disc w/ brown cover
1975-76: CARL & THE PASSIONS / PET SOUNDS two-fer (re-release; Warner Communications info on label)

As an aside, I remember around 1980-1981 seeing dozens of still-sealed copies of CATP/PS in the cut-out bins in Kmart and Woolworth's.



Thank you! Lee.
Thanks to you I could find out when my vinyl was made! and very surprised that Warner/Reprise may have ordered more new pressing of So Tough/Pet Sounds twofer, not only the single Pet Sounds after 1974.

From my copy's matrix number, the original lacquer may have been used for a pressing of my So tough disc?
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What is the original? - Carl and The Passions So Tough. on: January 06, 2016, 06:04:32 AM
Correct, since Warner/Reprise already had a perfectly good "cut" of PET SOUNDS from the 2 LP set, it makes sense that they just added the new single disc matrix number in the runout groove and used it for both pressings.  Therefore the PET SOUNDS in the 2 LP set should have identical sound to the PET SOUNDS single disc reissue with the brown cover - and based on my own ears and those of folks on various message boards, they do.

That is interesting that the PET SOUNDS disc in your CARL & THE PASSIONS / PET SOUNDS 2 LP set has the later Warner Communications logo.  Does the CARL & THE PASSIONS disc also have the Warner Communications logo?  If so it denotes a pressing of the 2 LP set from 1975 or later.  On the other hand, if the CATP disc doesn't have the Warner Communications logo but the PET SOUNDS disc does, you may be looking at a mismatched set.  Some collectors swap the records and album covers around until they have a perfect cover and a perfect record, and it could result in a mismatched set of labels with the leftover pieces.

Lee

Yes, my So tough disc has the Warner logo and also Pet Sounds disc does too.
See these photos.



 
 
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What is the original? - Carl and The Passions So Tough. on: January 05, 2016, 03:45:04 AM
Actually the fact that the run-out area for your vinyl contains both the matrix number for the 1972 CATP/PS 2-fer (2MS 2083) and the 1974 brown cover single disc issue (MS 2197) indicates that it's a 1974 vinyl pressing of the PET SOUNDS disc, and not from the original 1972 pressing run.  My original 1972 CATP/PS pressings have just the 2MS 2083 matrix number.  It would make sense that Warner/Reprise re-purposed the same lacquers two years later for the single disc issue instead of re-cutting them, and just indicated so by adding the new matrix number.

Lee
Thank you for conforming your vinyl's matrix number.
Do you mean Warnet/Reprise added MS2197 to 2MS 2083 in the run-out groove for the single disc issue? (like my twofer, both numbers put there together)

Also all original pressings from this era will have:
"WARNER BROS. RECORDS, INC., A SUBSIDIARY AND LICENSEE OF WARNER BROS. INC.    MADE IN U.S.A"
in the light yellow area on the bottom of the label.

Later Warner pressings (from 1976 on) will have:
"Reprise Records, a division of Warner Bros. Records Inc. * 3300 Warner Blvd., Burbank, Calif. 91505 * a Warner Communications Company * W * Made in U.S.A.

I'm not aware of any CATP/PS copies with the later logo, but I'm not a completist on collecting label variations.

Lee

My copy has the later logo that you referred.
I'm not a completist too. but I just want to know this is the original or not.
from your comments about the logo, it might not be the original 1972 press at least.
Although I don't know what is the original.
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What is the original? - Carl and The Passions So Tough. on: January 05, 2016, 03:17:15 AM

AGD
Thank you for your comments.

What is the US original that you think?
Do you think it's an original if it's a mid 70s press?
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What is the original? - Carl and The Passions So Tough. on: January 05, 2016, 03:15:02 AM
The "Artisan logo" doesn't refer to the logo on the record label, which would be Warners, but to a logo in the run-out groove, put there by the mastering studio, Artisan Sound. http://www.discogs.com/label/267310-Artisan-Sound-Recorders has a picture of the logo.

AndrewHickey
Thank you for your comments.
Yes, the Artisan logo that you referred is in the run-out groove of this twofer.
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / What is the original? - Carl and The Passions So Tough. on: January 04, 2016, 04:50:13 AM
I got a copy of So Tough/Pet Sounds twofer that the seller says "US original 1972 LP".
So Tough's catalogue number is 2MS2083 and the matrix number is 31454-1 Artisan logo/31455-1 Artisan logo.
Pet Sounds' catalogue number is 2MS2083. the matrix number is MS2197 2MS8023 11452-2 Artisan logo/MS2197 2MS8023 11453-1 Artisan logo.
But there is the warner bros logo on the label.
I guess the logo has been printed from mid 70s. Because the logo appeared on the label from Rock and Roll Music single.
and also this Pet Sounds' MS2197 is the number of Brown Pet Sounds LP that came out around 1974...

So, this twofer is a mid 70s' press? (at least after Brown Pet Sounds?), not the original 1972 LP?

I don't know much about what is the original. It's only the first press? til the second press? or All vinyl that was pressed in the first released year is the original??
Anyone know a site about The Beach Boys' original LP?

Any thoughts would be appriciated.
25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Top Five Favorite Beach Boy Tunes on: November 07, 2015, 06:37:18 AM
Wouldn't it be nice
Surf's Up
Sail On Sailor
Disney Girls
All Summer Long
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