I'm completely out of it. Ordered the vinyl on Amazon, and got a notice that it was delayed until 8/15/2012. So I assumed the entire release was delayed. Never bothered to check here until now, thinking everyone would be weighing in just now... ARGH!

Anyway, I so love the idea of a new release that it's hard to rate subjectively, but I gave it 3/5. It does sound a ton like the recent BW albums, but definitely has something extra with Mike and Al involved. I still don't know how Joe "Buddy Love" Thomas got back into the studio though. Someone probably has an essay on that history here.

My last thought though, being a Love You lover, is how awesome it would be to get a Love You 2. It'll never happen, but if 50 Big Ones is next, why not a Love You Too! followup? Brian's last "Eff you" to commercialism, making the music he wants to make and blowing away everyone who expects more surf and sand. Actually, "Bill and Sue" is as close to BBLY I've heard since "Male Ego".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocUX6u1fOLI

Find a ride!!!

No YouTube video for this, but Kevin Max's "Help Me Rhonda" is unlistenable. And that's from my favorite BB cover album ever, Making God Smile.

Wow, great stuff. I like how you stripped it down without burying the hooks of the song.

None of them would get to Hollywood. Now if Dennis showed up with Carl's voice and sang "God Only Knows", Carlis Wilson could win the whole thing.

My first song (recorded with GarageBand on my Mac Mini) is now available on iTunes, Amazon, and eMusic. I'll be donating any artist royalties I get to Score International's Hits for Haiti, so even if you end up hating the song, at least you'll be supporting a good cause! :-)

You can get more info on Hits for Haiti here:
http://scoreinternational.org/featured-news/hits-for-haiti-5/

The US Amazon direct link is here: http://www.amazon.com/Sunday-Morning/dp/B003GURHSY/ref=sr_shvl_album_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1272003119&sr=301-1

I wrote this mostly while in Haiti on a relief trip. One of the original lines in the song was a tribute to POB with the line "Thoughts of You filling my ears", but no one else got the reference, so I changed the line to "a new song filling my ears".

Just adding my experience to the record. I can usually access the board from home, but hardly ever from work.

Also, anyone have a scan of the Brian "eye chart" photo?

check out www.pipeline-operaglass.moonfruit.com/#/2020/4517893879

Does anyone else find this picture creepy-looking? I feel like Brian's hiding some kind of vampire teeth under that chart!

Easy...the orig. vinyl LP of 20/20 featured a gatefold cover, you opened it and the entire inside gatefold was a giant photo of Brian holding an eye chart. I always thought that was a really cool concept.

Thanks, I haven't seen the original album. Sounds like a good candidate for my vinyl collection!

Out of all the post Pet Sounds album covers (excluding compilations and the weird cloud faces on the Friends cover), there are 4 that feature some sort of band photo/painting . 20/20, Sunflower, 15 Big Ones, and Keepin' and The Summer Alive. So why is 20/20 the only one without Brian? Wasn't he even superimposed on the Holland photo on the back cover just so he could be in the picture? It seems like if they really wanted him in the picture they could have or just done a different cover, so it seems intentional.

I haven't heard much about this cover and how it was chosen. And is there any significance to Al praying?

I've wondered this myself. He comes up with a song like The Trader for Holland, and even Full Sail and ACH were pretty good for L.A, but his collaborations with Randy Bachman for KTSA aside, it seems we don't really hear from him until the Beckley/Lamm/Wilson album just before his death?

Every description I read about that song assumes it's about an unfaithful lover that the singer doesn't want to confront, but if that's true why does the song start with "Now here we are together, this would have been worth waiting forever"?

I always thought the song was about a guy pining for a girl for so long that when he finally gets to be alone with her, he can't profess his love. Does anyone else have thoughts on this?

As much as I am creeped out by the lyrics, I can't get Hey Little Tomboy out of my head once it's there. Where was Jack Rieley when they really needed him to write some better lyrics?


I'm also unashamedly a fan of Lahaina Aloha on SIP. Even Island Fever and the title track wouldn't be bad with some better lyrics.

Neil also sang this song recently on Conan O'Brien's last Tonight Show.

It was hard to defend the band when they did "Wipe Out" with the Fat Boys.

 

But if you look at that song in context, even if it can't be defended artistically, I'm guessing they were going after the success that Aerosmith saw with their big comeback Permanent Vacation album and the Run-DMC Walk This Way single.

I was ten when "Kokomo" came out. My Mom had bought the Cocktail Soundtrack tape and we wore that out playing it in the car. (Anyone remember the other songs from that album, like John Mellencamp's "Rave On"?)

I staged a lip synch performance of Kokomo one day with my brother and cousin at a family gathering, using popsicles as microphones. We had worn the tape out so much though that there was a point in the song where it was inaudibly distorted, so we put the popsicles in our mouths at that part of the song. My aunt was scandalized by us kids mouthing lyrics about "afternoon delight", though I had no idea what it meant.

I remember thinking, "This can't be the same Beach Boys from the surf and car songs, they would be too old now, this must be the new Beach Boys". Sadly, I was kindof right....

I didn't get hooked on the band until BWPS came out and I saw Brian on that 2005 tour in Chicago. Greatest concert of my life.

According to Audree, he has a damaged 9th nerve and was born that way (wasn't Murry with a 2x4 or a kid with a baseball bat...)... and as best I can pin it down, the operation was late 60/early 70s, certainly before summer 1971.

Vosse implies in the 1969 article that the surgery already happened and that's why Cabinessence on 20/20 is in stereo, so that would mean it would have taken place sometime between '67 and '69 then right? He also implies that the surgery was successful, but apparently he was mistaken.

Vosse article?

This I have not read...

try this   http://beachboys.freecp.net/Forum/viewtopic.php?t=587

Brian had surgery to get hearing back in his deaf ear?

Do You Like Worms is a great title.  The song is all about digging into the past and uncovering the "worms" of manifest destiny.   I think in 66/67 it would have remained the title.  As well, I think Da Da would have retained that title, especially as it, like Mr's O'Leary's Cow, wasn't an actual listed title, but part of The Elements. 
I would agree though that Look/I Ran could have been simply place holding titles.

Interesting idea Paul. If you roll over a rock, you're likely to dig a few worms.

This whole discussion was rendered moot when Weird Al Yankovic released THE definitive SMiLE track, "My Pancreas".  When I listen to either BWPS or the original tracks, I just think about how I could be listening to My Pancreas instead.

Same goes for all pre-1966 Beach Boys material. Why listen to that inferior garbage when I can hear "Trigger Happy" from Al's "Off the Deep End" album?

TLOS took awhile to grow on me, but now it's easily my 2nd favorite BW album after BWPS. I love that they included "Can't Wait Too Long". That's probably the most beautiful 30 seconds of harmony I've ever heard, and I prefer it even to the Beach Boys version.

I recently saw the DVD as well and loved watching Brian at work in the studio. There's the scene where he bursts through the door and barely says anything but the band understands he needs to give them a new harmony line and they work it out. To me, that's as close as it gets to having 1966 Brian back and in control.

I think as time and generations go by, BWPS will become the definitive version of Brian Wilson's greatest work and the 1967 recordings will be more of a curiosity. The 37 years between the two right now seems like a much longer time than it will in a few decades. That and BWPS is too new to feel like it's been around long enough to compete with the fragments.

This isn't a perfect analogy for obvious reasons, but let's pretend Beethoven completed half of his greatest symphony in 1790, but then finished it in 1820. I doubt we would be having an argument now about whether or not the completed version from 1820 was better than fragments that were preserved from 1790.

Another Two that spring to mind as underrated are "Santa Ann Winds" and "Somewhere Near Japan",  probs because they are on albums generally considered lesser works.
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I'm also a big fan of Somewhere Near Japan, but now I get a bit creeped out listening to it after the whole John/Mackenzie Philips incest thing. According to AGD's Guide, it was written about John's daughter's honeymoon. Maybe not Mackenzie though....

Ha, no I'm back now. Sorry, this was off topic anyway. I posted in the sandbox about the "Port Au Prince" lyric in Kokomo being rather ironic now.

I just got back from a week-long stay there, helping out relief efforts. From what I understand, Haiti was not so poor until a coup in 1986, so I guess when Mike, et al were coming up with Kokomo, Port Au Prince was still a viable tourist destination.

Here's hoping that it can be one day again, but most importantly that the people of Haiti will be able to get back on their feet and have a government that doesn't take all the aid. Maybe Mike can include it again in the inevitable Kokomo "update" song.