This place is worse than the blueboard,

Full of sanctimonious, anally retentive windbags with no sense of humour and even worse grammar.

And I really have better things to do with my time.

Goodbye forever!!!!

Boo hoo hoo

I'm expecting Mr. Newcombe to return with a whole lot of nonsense (as usual)

Thanks, I try my best. I am a vulgar man, but my music is not vulgar. (or something like that from Amadeus)
Shameless plug
http://www.stephennewcombe.com/index.htm

But back to Phil,

I'm just not convinced he did it that's all. If there was irrefutable evidence then I would not be saying all this. But there is not irrefutable evidence. On the contrary, there is a lot of evidence that would suggest he did not do it. Lack of blood on his clothes being the main one.

And of course I would not want him freed just because of who he is, if he was guilty. I just have a warped sense of humour, offending people  makes me giggle and I really shouldn't do it because I also want to be loved, so sorry if I offended anyone (or am I?)

But then imagine if Mozart had killed someone, obviosly he shouldn't be imprisoned under any circumstance, unless of course he killed another Great Composer.

Any thoughts, anyone.......?

And please really, I don't mean to offend anyone (or do I?)

I don't think he's guilty. I think he was punished for being eccentric.  And even if he is guilty, he's Phil Spector, let him out!

Listen to this backing track, it was cut in '64

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPlQ3YwCKeU

(Pet) Sound familiar?

I love him, unashamedly

At least someone does eh?

Sorry, it's christmas and I just had to say it.

And I meant it!

The sequence on Surfer Girl is quite simple -

Slow song, fast song.

He does the same with Pet Sounds. This is not accidental. Remember he was primarily a musician not a lyricist, so I think sequencing choices would have been more musical than lyrical.

Also remember that Pet Sounds helped define the album as an art form, and not a vehicle for singles and filler. So that makes albums like Today, which has a clear idea behind the sequencing, very ahead of it's time.

Yes, that's the one.

I'm quite disappointed, it's such a great version.

I've just answered my own question, it's the Ant-Bee version. That's had me fooled for years.

Hi,

I've long wondered about an alternate version of DYLW that I have. It is on a CD called "SMiLE Bits and Peices." and dates back to the mid 90's
It is very bad quality, and the first 1/2 second is missing. It goes into a full wordless vocal version of the verse, and it sounds like Dennis going Ba Ba Ba Ba Ba Baaa (not sheep noises)  and then into the Bicycle rider section, which has been completely  re-recorded, and has the melody sung as Aaaah. It then goes into the fade, which is a lot fuller than other versions. It builds up a lot more and has the Wa Hona Loo La lyric spoken over the top. It has an almost punk-like feel to the vocals. It is very scratchy like it came from a much played acetate, but also sounds like it may have rain sound fx on it. This may be the quality though

It sounds like it is complete apart from the lead vocals, a much fuller realised version

Can anyone tell me about this version?

No, here is what really happened

Brian returned to the studio to pick up some tapes late one night  in Jan 67. He is startled to find Paul McCartney with an sackfull of SMiLE tapes, climbing out of the window.
The two grapple, and Paul manages to escape with the vocal sessions for Look, and Surfs Up section II.
Brian bursts into tears, and the rest is history.....

I once worked with a woman who had met Hitler in the thirties, and I've met Brian a few times. So thanks to me Brian can be linked to Hitler in less than five degrees of seperation. Oh, and I've met Bruce Forsythe too.

Sorry everyone

Unless that mix session on SOT was for the Smiley Smile fade?

Well, that brings up an interesting occurrence; in the Smiley Smile version fade there is an instrument (I believe it was some kind of a keyboard) present that isn't on the original multitrack tape or the stereo remix on Hawthorne as it was overdubbed during the mixdown for Vegetables during the Smiley Smile sessions.

I suggest you go back to your SOT

That instrument is being dubbed on  to that  mono mixdown.

Hence I presumed there was a finished mix from whence the Smiley fade came

the moderate-brained Brianistas who moderately frequent our board

!

Smiley Smile and Love You are in my top five Brian Wilson albums. I love his production, but for me, the magic of Brian Wilson is his musical structure. I won't use the word chord progressions, as his best stuff is more contrapunctal. I love the perfection in his writing, which shines out in these two albums without being hidden by window dressing.
I also love Friends for the song structure. There are some masterpieces on that album

Smiley Smile is pure Brian Wilson. I think of Smile and Smiley Smile as two completely independent, almost unrelated albums.

Who moderates the moderator?

I'm sorry, I'm going to type this in a light hearted, and friendly way, but you are being a tad pedantic

I'm quite sure you know what I mean when I say master, as in a mix of a song which sounds finished.

What is that SOT session if not a mix?

Sorry if I used the wrong terminology!

My original thought was, what if the Vega-Tables tape got junked when Brian edited in the fade for the Smiley version.

Does that pass the pedant-o-meter?

I once listened to Smiley Smile on acid

She's Goin Bald was a stand out track

There never was a Smile-era master of Vega-Tables, or any other track from the sessions.

OK, working mix then. I always presumed that as that was a mix session (tape rewinding, levels changing), and there was an overdub going on, that it was finished product. The fade on the Smiley Vegatables sounds finished to me.

And how do you know there was never a master? I think the only sure thing we can say about SMiLE is we're not sure of anything, not 100%.

Hello, I come on here a lot but don't post, so I feel comfy just leaping in

I read on here sometime one of your honoured guests saying that they had hopes of the Vega-Tables master turning up, as portions of the mix session appeared on the SMiLE SOT.

I sometimes wake up in a cold sweat at night.

What if the master was cannibalized for the Smiley Smile version?

That SOT mix session, and the section incorporated into the Smiley fade sound like they come from the same version. They have that lap steel (?) overdub on them.

What if, on needing a fade, Brian just cut up the SMiLE version and threw the rest away....

They seriously need to invent time travel. I'll be back there with a little field recorder. Mini Disk is fine, obviously optimised for plugging into a mid sixties board. And some sort of invisibility cloak. I would follow Brian everwhere, even to the toilet in case he hummed something. I'd give you the best SMiLE bootleg ever

[A Normal Album With Twelve Songs On It]

Hi, this is Stephen Newcombe

Some of you may have heard my album, The Wrong Button. It was released a few years back, and I was very honoured when Darian Sahanaja said it was one of the best things he'd ever heard. (sorry Darian, but I'll be living off that one for a while yet!)

I am a SMiLE fanatic. Like many of you I spent a lot of my time trying to work out the SMiLE puzzle. Then came BWPS. As much as I love the 2004 release, I know the 1967 album would have been a far different animal. 

I miss the magic, so I am creating my own musical jigsaw puzzle

I am doing this for all the disenchanted SMiLE fanatics out there.

It will be in the form of a trilogy. Three albums will contain all the parts needed to form three other albums, plus a spoken interview, which will contain some clues.
The first album is called A Normal Album With Twelve Songs On It, and is being released one track at a time. The first track, "1", is available, the second nears completion.

When the puzzle is solved, you will have three very differnt albums

• a conventional twelve track album
• a funny album  in three movements
• a psychedelic album with no gaps or fades, like The Wrong Button

Songs will be chopped up, choruses lifted out and put into other songs. Each track will be full of surprises. My aim  is to make the mixed up albums very listenable. They will work musically, and the albums can be enjoyed as presented. I am basically having to write six albums at once. The puzzle albums, and the correct order albums. The term logistical nightmare was I think coined for this project. It is a huge undertaking.

My main concern early on was how to make the puzzle solvable. Obviously a waveform editor is a nessecity, a good free one can be obtained here 
http://www.nch.com.au/wavepad/index.html

Track "1" for example contains parts from three different albums, but it works musically.

Like a conventional jigsaw, you will recognise pieces that belong together. Some will be very straightforward, but some will not. Fades and silences are also important. Basically, everything needed to solve the puzzle will be in the music itself. And I of course will be on hand, on this forum, to help out with littel clue-ettes when necessary. But this needs to go viral first.

I am really hoping this does go viral, any help or suggestions on this front will be gratefully recieved and remembered. I am a creative peson, not a marketing person, and I know this is a very marketable endevour.

I want to create truly 21st century music, and structure is, as always, the way forward.

To get straight to the page where my new album resides, please click here

http://www.stephennewcombe.com/Music/Music%20-%20A%20Normal%20Album%20With%20Twelve%20Songs%20On%20It.php

But please also explore the rest of my site. My first three albums, the First Trilogy, are available free on my site. My home page is
http://stephennewcombe.com/index.htm


There is a small charge for my new material, but bear in mind this is a concept which is completely new. I  may even offer a cash prize to the first person who can work out the entire puzzle

All my regards,

Stephen

Hello, my album The Wrong Button is now available for free download at
http://thewrongbutton.blogspot.com/
Darian Sahanaja said it was the greatest thing he had heard for years. If you love SMiLE I'm confident you'll really enjoy this album, and its free.
With regards, Stephen