I Can Hear F***ing
Never Learn Not To F***
The Things We F***ed Last Summer
Keepin' The F***er Alive
F*** My Room
f***ing Deuce Coupe
This F*** of Mine
Do You f***ing Remember?
Keep An Eye On f***ing
F*** A Wave

(Recorded "Live" At A ) Beach Boys F*** Fest!

What would Canned Heat do with "Ding Dang"?

Ding F***ing Dang?

I'll Be F***ed For Christmas
Frosty The F***man
The F*** With All The Toys
("And she'll get") F***ed, F***ed, F***ed ("Til her daddy takes the dildo away")
Please Let Me F***
When I Grow Up To Be F***ed
Cabin F***er (featuring the sections: Who F***ed The Iron Whores? and Have You Seen The Grand Coulee F***?)
F*** O'Leary's Cow
I Love To F*** Da Da
Ballad of Ole F***er
A Young Man Is F***ed
Soulful Old Man F***er
F*** Don't Tell Me
Pom Pom F***girl
Cassius F*** Versus Sonny F***er
Warmth of The F***

...Oh God, I'm having too much fun with this, must stop!  

Would there be enough material for a Smiley box?  Not that they'd do one, but if they did?   
I like the Smile Wind Chimes too, but the Smiley version is my favorite, maybe cos that's the one I heard first.  It's spooky and beautiful.  I prefer the Smiley Vegetables as well. 
It took time to grow on me though, because I too, when i first heard it was like"What the hell?"  And yet there was something about it that made me continue to listen to it, and I really grew to love it.  I consider it one their all time best actually and one of the most unique albums released by anyone ever anywhere. 

ALBUMS
The Beach Boys F*** You
15 Big F***s
Endless F***
The Beach Boys F***!
F***ing Days (And F***ing Nights!!)
F*** Sounds
Carl And The F***ers - So F***ed
Smiley F***
All F***ing Long
F*** Down, Vol. 2
Sunf***er

More Song titles
Wild F***er
Country F***
Noble F***er
Little Saint F***
F***ing Wonderful
Caroline, F*** (or,  F***, No)
I Just Wasn't Made For This F***
F*** Chimes
Fall F***s, And F*** Winter (The W. WoodF***er Symphony)
California F***s
Let Him F*** Wild
Barbara F***
F*** Me Baby
Our Favorite F*** Sessions
F***ing Honda
F*** Machine
Lonely F***
Can't F*** Too Long


Songs Brian produced/wrote for others
I Guess I'm F***ed
He's a F***
F***ing Down The Swanee River
F*** City

Nazi's are way too easy a thing to utilize to upset people.  It's cheap.  You want to irritate people?  Be more inventive for f***'s sake. 

F***in' USA
Add Some F***ing To Your Day
F*** birds Over The Mountain
The Little Girl I Once F***ed
F*** Vibrations
Heroes And F***ers
All I Wanna Do (Is F*** You)
F***ers Daughter
Ol' Man F***er
Brian Is F***ed

I agree it was a bizarre change of heart to shelve the "crazy, weird Smile"  and release the the even more befuddling Smiley.  However, I find Smiley to be very rewarding in its own way, and the version of Wind Chimes on Smiley is (IMO) the version.  It kicks the Smile versions butt all over the playground.   It's a great album in its own right.  Incredibly inventive, humorous, and yes, very strange - way stranger than I think Smile would have seemed.

Do you suppose he even realized his sons were rock legends?

If he had would he have sold the publishing?

That was my point.

I know.  I meant that as a concurrence.

Do you suppose he even realized his sons were rock legends?

If he had would he have sold the publishing?

Bird in the hand is worth two in the bush?  He didn't have the benefit of hindsight or foresight for that matter.

Maybe that's cos he only had one eye?  Interesting how he had one eye and Brian had one ear....
But, whether he felt the publishing was worth millions or nothing - it was Brians, and the family's legacy, which is worth a helluva lot more than mere $$. 

Do you suppose he even realized his sons were rock legends?

If he had would he have sold the publishing?

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Personally, I really like the Beatles and the Beach Boys.  I also love the Who, the Kinks, Zombies, Lovin' Spoonful, etc.  They all had similar influences, and influenced one another too, but did their own thing with those influences.  They weren't at war, they were climbing that spiral to the sky together.

Scuse me [while I kiss the sky] I'm from Sweden so my English is not so good... Anyhow...

What were the limitations back then? When Smile was about to be released the 33 rpm vinyl album - with an A-side and a B-side, and 5-7 songs on each side - was the only format available. Also, most of the songs back then were supposed to be 2-4 minutes long. No-one wanted "symphony-long" tunes in the 60's. There was however a break in the late 60's, with songs like Eloise (5 min - Barry Ryan), Mac Arthur Park (7 min - Richard Harris) and of course Hey Jude (7 min - Beatles). I am quite sure the limitations - vinyl albums, short songs - were _part of_ (please note - part of) Brian abandoning the project. Otherwise perhaps we could have had an interactive sort of release. There's the excellent Smile Project cd floating around which is a good example of how it could have been. 

  I don't see that it had to be a sprawling album with long tracks.   Brian himself commented at the time that (paraphrasing here), "when you're stoned 20 seconds of music seems like hours."   Stoned or not, this music has that effect of extending time, to me anyway.  Smiley Smile seems to go on much longer than its actual length (again, to me anyway) , and I think Smile would have been similar - a two sided album of short pieces strung together  (as either individual "songs" or possibly linked together)  - bing bada boom, and you're out of there, only in less time than it seems. 

Perhaps he'd have become Brian Ono, creating experimental soundscapes....   

18th said:

"Still not getting of that cloud are you Bill."

I do have a problem of seeing the bigger picture. Maybe you can send me some blinders.

Sometimes Bill when that picture is contained within a frame that is as far as you should look. The picture has the depth and takes you on the journey, it can be what ever you want it to be . But it can never be what it is not.

But if the original picture was never completed and framed, then who can say what that picture is not? 

Diane gets the nod, and that pic of Alanis is likre one of those "seperated at birth" comparisons 
But that later pic of Marilyn is pretty sexy, something in the eyes.....   

You start an awful lot of threads.

And what a terrible thing to do, starting topics of discussion on a forum for discussion of topics!! 

My initial listen I was disappointed in the construction of this H&V (other than the sound quality, which sounded great to my old ears), but then I put my "fan-boy" expectations away and played it a bunch more times while I did other things, listening from the side, as opposed to focusing every nuance of my being upon every milisecond of it, and suddenly it came together for me.  I really dug it as it was (is), and could see it having been released this way (had it indeed been released this way, which of course it wasn't) back in '67 as just dandy and fine.  

Good Vibes sounds great too, and the extended fade is a plus.  That's the only thing about the original that irked me,  was it faded out too quickly.

Augh!! Where is "project files"??  I can't find it  

Since I first learned about Smile via the Byron Priess book in 1979, so what's that?  32 years?  Damn, that's a long time man!   

Changed my pre-prder today and nixed the stand alone vinyl set (since I'm already getting that with the box and don't even have a turntable).  This way I was able to increase my shipping from the free 5 - 8 business days to 2 day and still come out $10 below my previous cost.     I retained the 2 CD set though as I really want that stupid button for some reason, but did not go as far as Ghost and have it gift wrapped with a loving "note to self"  
Anyway, this post is relevant to nothing and no one really except myself, so thank you for the indulgence.  Please carry on.

From looking over the tracklists, I don't see any mention of acetates - does this mean there are none utilized for the release?  Or would they not list it as such?   I'm curious because I'm wondering if any of this was sourced from such items.  

EDIT:  Oops, well guess Peter just answered my question.  So there is at least one acetate source then.

but "Join Together" and "Relay" are of lesser quality than the rest of the songs that made the final cut.

Join Together is one of my all time favorite Who tunes.  It and Pure and Easy would have been nice additions to Who's Next, but it's kcikin' album as it is too.  An incredible leap for them sonically/production wise - must have blown minds at the time.  

All they could do with Lifehouse is release a comp of all the pertinent songs of the period.  I agree with the previous poster that there's no way it could be resurrected as Townshend envisioned it, because from what I gather, he expected miraculous sh*t to happen.  They could have made the movie, recorded the songs and left it at that, and it would have been cool - Townshend wanted something way beyond that though.
As regards Smile, there was no album, damn shame - cos it would have been big at the the time (and I don't care what anyone says - at THAT time, it would have been), but what we have (pr will have) is an awesome archival release - FINALLY! 

I really regret not ordering it 2 hours ago. If i understand this correctly, if i buy now at $146 and the price is lowered as of the day of the release, i will pay that lowered price? I should pre-order asap before this thing goes up even higher in cost.

Ugh, I waited too long to pre-order as well, but you're correct, there's a pre-order guarantee - if the price goes down, we'll pay that lower price.  Just glad i got my pre-order in now though.  I got all three: the box, the vinyl and the 2 CDs, and I'm excited as hell!  I'm not "bored with this smile thing" anymore!  
I've been waiting nearly all my life for such a release, I could just sh*t myself, but I won't - I'll save that for when I actually hear it!