Once again my favorite song:

"Well she didn't look as pretty as some others I have known"

One of Jim Morrison's favorite albums as far as I know. And rightfully so.

Is that really true? Where can this be verified? Did one of the Doors mention that Jim loved Wild Honey in an interview?

I think Ian is right. Morrison was a big Beach Boys-Fan. he said they were the reason he came to California.
If he still thought so after Dennis had beaten him up, I don't know....

Maybe he's playing it for Al, kind of an acknowledgement that he likes Suzie.  Still unrealesed at that point.

I think it was already released as a B-side at that point.

BTW I'm just downloading a song called "Murry the beast" by Brian. Anyone know what this is? I can't hear it, since it's not finished and it someho doesn't work. Maybe it's Surfin USA and someone just named it "Murry the beast", but....

Love it ! 5 !!
This is an fantastic album. The Boys really showed they could rock! One of Jim Morrison's favorite albums as far as I know. And rightfully so.
I wish there would be a remastered version of it with outtakes and a stereo-version. The UM-release of it is my favorite of the UM-series. Maybe even a book written about these session (plus Friends and even Smiley Smile) to see how the BBs worked on the albums from that period. Stephen Desper could maybe give some insight.
There was an article 'bout half a year ago where a new rock-band was described (was it the Magic Numbers ? ) and Wild Honey was mentioned as "Brian Wilson's Indi-Rock-Gem", though I think this was more an group-effort, at least more so than Pet Sounds or Smile.

I think the Beach Boys' version of "Sloop" kicks ass! Unbelieveable arrangement and singing.
BTW anyone heard Lonnie Donegans version of it called "I wanna go home"? Beautiful and quite melancholy. So it kinda would fit on Pet Sounds feeling-wise

Maybe we should start guessing what the title of this CD will be. Here are some guesses:

Sounds of Father's Day
Endless Father's Day
Spirit of Father's Day
Unleash the Father's Day
Father's Day in Paradise
Looking Back at Father's Day
First Father's Day
Country Father's Day
MIU Father's Day
Salute to Father's Day
Summertime Father's Day
Group Therapy - Father's Day Edition
10 Big Ones (or 7 Live Ones, 3 Solo Ones, and 2 Filler Ones)

What about :

Father's day ( and mother's night !!!)

Brian + 38 years - sanity + Darian - Mike Love = Smile

I think the songs are quite good. The voice....it takes time to like it.....
I just have to listen to this, since my girlfriend is crazy for that album....

Yeah, thanks Mr Desper. You really got into detail. I didn't expect this, but I'm very grateful for that.
And you're right, we owe you one.....

There is of course the whole Be Here in the Morning debate. David Leaf says Brian, AGD Al, and I don't know for sure.

Well, Desper called Al, and Al says that he sang it, and it sounds exactly like Al, so I think it must be Al.

So said Brian

"Cabinessence", for example,started out as a wholly different trip- Dennis was going to sing it by himself and sound like a funky cat up in the mountains somewhere singing to a chick by a fireplace: very simple- and that's all there was to it

Those lyrics don't strike me as being Van Dyke Parksish at all, especially in comparison to the rest of the song.  They don't fit in with the Cabin Essence lyrics, so I doubt Brian or Van Dyke would've written them.

Well, I think they kinda fit with the truck being the "modern" iron horse....

Memo was dated circa 2/23/66. Tracks listed were:

Wouldn't It Be Nice
Caroline, No
Good, Good, Good Vibrations [sic]
You Still Believe In Ne
That's Not Me
Hang On To Your Ego
Sloop John B
The Old Man And The Baby (=  Let's Go Away For A While}
Don't Talk...
I Just Wasn't Made...

... and two others, as yet untitled, one an instrumental. Interesting that "GGGV" was slated for inclusion five days after the very first session.

I can't remember where, but I'd read that "Good, God, Good Vibrations" was a working title for "Here Today". But I don't know how much truth lies in there....

I remember somebody making a big deal about Brian using the fade out on the "vibrations a happenin' with her" on the original in the middle of the track, and how hard it was to do something like that back then. 

That's not even a crossfade. He was just fading down several rotary faders at the same time. Not easy to do....

I thought about how much "technical" work, like what you described here, was done by Brian. I always thought he "just" put the different instruments together and had them play in a special way (besides of arranging, writing and singing this stuff), but I never thought about how difficult it must have been to mix all these things.

Hi Mr Desper,

I got two questions which I hope haven't been asked before.
First, I know many BBs-fans who ould like to know if that "sex sound" on the coda to "All I want to do" from 20/20 was a fake or real. Normally I would say "fake", but ith Dennis nothing seems so sure I believe...
And second, how came that you and the BBs used this radically different sound on Sunflower compared to the album before (20/20) ? Sunflower sounds like from another world compared to the "old class"-sound of 20/20. Had it anything to do with the change to Warner?

Yeah I also did that at one time. I think it sounds quite good.
BTW I always tried to use the "horn intro" (which you hear as as link between "aum-di-di-wa-da" and the starting of the actual "H&V" on BWPS) as a "intro" to "Surf's Up". I think that sounds cool...

It wasn't worth all these fuzz we made around it.  I can't believe that they really release it like this, I'm dissapointed. really, but I'm excited for Brian's "new" track

That's what he said. 

Our Team is a BW/DW/CW/ML/AJ co-write.

Probably the first time since "Friends" that they all wrote one song together and then it is such a terrible one.

See german-board for answers....    

Yeah, it as a demo for Merle Haggard for the country-album. Great version. Could have been a great album if they would've done it well....

Yeah, if only they would have still been a "relevant" group and not that oldies-thing.

You know hat? I don't care if this sounds like Brian. I mean Pet Sounds, Smile, etc. wouldn't have happened if he tried to sound like The BBs

Oh thanks. Cool to know that. From this view, you're probably right that Dennis and  Garby Leon deserve a credit. Great song btw

My fav-censorship is Elvis being filmed from the waist up on Sullivan, and therefore transporting his movements into the upper-region (say his arms), like on "Don't be cruel" . That cat is so cool...

Scott says he wrote the lyrics to the second verse, because in the demo Bri sang the same lyrics both times.

Interestingly, I was just listening to that clandestine hotel room interview a couple of fans held with Brian in December '81, and when asked about recent songs he'd written, Bri mentions that one, and says he wrote it with Dennis and Garby Leon (athough I think he misprounced Garby' s name).  Not that he RECORDED it with them, but that he WROTE it with them.  So maybe they deserve a credit too...

C-Man

But you don't know if he was talking 'bout City Blues, do you?