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Alright.  Someone on the other thread mentioned that when I said one member of the Beach Boys is mentally ill, that I was selling the band short.  LOL That is hilarious.  It's got me to thinking though.

I've heard the idea brought up before that Michael Jackson was crazy... but that he may have actually been the most sane member of the entire clan.  

So while everybody acknowledges that Brian Wilson is generally regarded as bat-merda insane, maybe we should analyze this.  Who's really the most off their rocker?  Who's the most normal?  Most of what Brian does and says makes sense.  

So who is it?

Brian - certifiably unable to take care of himself, he's got a conservator appointed and has forever.  Won a lawsuit in court (I believe) basically saying he was out of his mind when he signed away the rights to his music royalties,etc.

Mike - Sued everybody he ever knew, including his own family.  Thinks Kokomo is deep because he mentions levatation in it.

Al - known to cohort with goats.  There is photographic and videographic evidence to prove this.

Bruce - has worked with Barry Manilow.  (we may have a winner here)

Dennis - hung out with Charlie Manson.  Only member of the Beach boys to actually Drown.  (god bless him)

Carl - I'm sure he was crazy in one way or the other.  Fill me in.  


(P.S. all this is lighthearted, I love all these guys)

This topic is one word off to Dennis being the answer...

Robbie Robertson

In terms of actual mental illness, I think you've basically got Brian, and Mike on one occasion when he was fasting.  Dennis' deal seems to have been extreme ADD, Carl's, from what I was told, was being extremely guarded and reserved, possibly to the point where it affected his health.  Mike accused Al of chronic depression (or some such) in one of his lawsuits, but other than some occasional odd statements to the press and irritability on occasion, there's no evidence of this.

In terms of being "whacked out" -- probably all of them.  Those guys were placed in an impossible situation in a very early age, were managed by a family member who WAS crazier than any of them, and were stressed out for most of their adult lives.  They coped as best they could.

I'd have to go with David Marks for quitting.

Carl stayed in the band pretty much through all the BS from 61- 97.

Pretty loco in my book!

... but if you go by that Criteria, wouldn't Al be crazier? 

Well, let's compare their savings accounts :)

I'll go with Murry for being a controlling maniac. 

No kidding, instantly the thought of prolly half this board.
My question is where's the poll for this?
We should get some percentages on everyone's opinion.

Touche, Rerun.  Touche. 

we've got to disqualify Murry though, that's why I said members of the band. If Murry was allowed, he'd of course win with 100% of the vote. Also we can't allow hangers on or associates, because Charlie Manson and Eugene Landy would win. 

It's got to be the traditional accepted members of the band.  Ricky and the other one both qualify.  David and Bruce qualify.  Toni Tennille doesn't count though.  Plus she's too hot to call crazy.  I'd like to do that to her one more ti...

ugh, sorry.  Back on track.  Plus I just realized she's 70 now. 

I can't figure out how to edit it and add a poll, sorry!

Uh, that "other one" would be Blondie Chaplin. Not to be too nit picky, but people on a board like this should know the names of the Official Beach Boys. Just sayin'...

Eh.  He was a half ass member.  Sorry, it's true.  I dont' like the beach boys because of that guy.  BTW what's he done since then?  Clue me in.  BTW, you're being too nit picky. 

Nah, you can't be serious; He's toured How Many times with the Stones? they obviously love him, which must say something in his defense, for you.
Blondie was a great addition, IMO. 

I'd say without a doubt Mike is the most whacked out member of The Beach Boys

The guy's exhibited all manner of confusing and bizarre behavior without the aid of hard drugs or diagnosed mental illness for almost 50 years.

He plays guitar in the Rolling Stones, covering for Keith Richards on guitar from behind the amps. 

Mike gets my vote.  If he had any talent, the rest of the band would've hired Landy to save him.  He's always been thin, would've been a breeze keeping him from the fridge...

Brian and Mike in a tie though Dennis had his bizare moments himself! Al seems pretty normal. Bruce I think is deceptively normal. He actually seems like he has multiple personalites at time. Carl I am sure was pretty quirky in some ways but was quieter so it didn't show as much. BTW no insult meant to any of them, the post is in fun

Half-assed or not, he still was a Beach Boy, just the same.

Also played several years with The Band.

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nvm.

We agree on more than one thing! :love

Impossible to pick between Mike and Brian

Glen Campbell gets honorable mention just for that infamous mugshot. 

That's an interesting prospect but he's REALLY a half assed member, so we can't count him.  Glen Campbell, as much as I love him, is *still* screwed up, whereas Mike/Brianetc. have came to the conclusion that they're too old to be assholes anymore. :)  I think.  I heard an interview Glen did with Bill Anderson a few years back, he was blaming all of his woes on Tanya Tucker and a bartender who had recently 'over served' him.  Kind of sad, really. 

but he sounds pretty good on the AJ lp.

Glen?  He's really talented, I imagine he'll still sound good when he dies with a bottle in his hand.  Probably while driving.   I love that video they play from time to time of him doing Witchita Lineman live in concert, he was such a great guitar player imho.  Always had a nice tone dialed in and voice led everything.  Simple stuff but played so beautifully.

Can I suggest Jack Rieley?

Wow.

That's nothing. I consider Bruce a member, but not Al, and David Marks was there during the '70s in my book.

Blondie Chaplin and Ricky Fataar wrote songs for The Beach Boys that were on a Beach Boys record and that they played the instruments on and sang the song, appeared in videos, ect.. they actually did much more than some of the members that are considered part of the band did, but they didn't stay that long.. so is that the only argument to call them half Beach Boys ?

If they are a Beach Boy on a Beach Boys LP then they are a Beach Boy period. That gives us Mike, Carl, Dennis, Al, Dave, Brian, Ricky, Blondie, and Bruce. Glen did take a few photos as a group member, and acted as one briefly on stage, but he never sang or wrote anything of note on a Beach Boys record. 

I also feel this. From the outside he is smiles and cuddles, but he obviously got in a fight with the group in 1971 so that he left(or was kicked)
He didnt go to the live show in Hawaii in 1967 showing that there was clearly a rift between him and the group.

LA Light was done with him more or less producing everything. Bruce, were you jelly of Dennis and diminished his effort by turning down the intro volume of Love Surrounds Me? Why did you do that Bruce? I see no reason!

Also Bruce showed his temper when he dicusses that politics thing recently. Mitt Romney The Asshole, and Barack Obama The Socialist Black Guy.
I'm pretty sure Bruce yearns for living in the all-white community on Cape Cod that he always sings about in his sugary songs. Was he against the civil rights movement? did he leave the group because its music was becoming more jimi hendrix influenced rock rather than the pop they had always done and suddenly Carl brought Blondie to join the band?
He's prob a huge advocate of having the border fence with Mexico and hates minorities from Latin countries, and black people.

Sorry if this was direct. But please tell me how I can conclude to anything else given the pieces of evidence?  ;D
Forgive my wording here, just me playing around with thoughts*

"Oh man, i sure am so gosh darn jealous! boy i am SO gonna turn down the volume of that intro!!! take that you, you mean Dennis boy!!!"

Come on guys now...

Pretty bold assumptions about a guy based on him having money and saying he not doesn't approve of Obama, Socialism (he never said anything about him being black) (he also trashed Mitt Romney, also a white Republican with money) in what should have been a private conversation with a few fans.

By definition, I think you have to be a little whacked out to be in the BBs. The question is, are any of them NOT a little whacked out? I'd say Brian, Mike, and Dennis all exhibited "out there" behavior at various times.

What an absolutely vile rant. There was nothing related to the president's race in Bruce's comments, which he's perfectly entitled to whether you agree or not. It's highly irresponsible and deeply insulting to project all the above sh*t on him with absolutely no basis whatsoever. You're the bigot here, I think.   

God help you if you're not 15, writing nonsense like that.

It makes sense that you'd be a little whacked out as a member of the Beach Boys. Carl probably had the best excuse, and he's one of the LEAST whacked out. He basically never had an adolescence/was essentially a child star. He was recording/touring from the time he was 15 on. Gotta be a bit of a strange life.

Stamos.

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Vile, indeed.  One might check out the Cape Cod demographics first.  It is not all white.  I have spent considerable time there for over 28 years. 

And Romney was my governor, who authored a health care plan which was the model for Obama care.  Deval Patrick, the current gov, does a great deal of work for the President. (I do think that it cheaper to keep people healthy, preventatively, than to pay for long term health care for catastrophic, preventable disease. )  Otherwise it is penny wise and pound foolish.  Romney wants to distance himself from his own program.  Problem? Ya.  I think his wife, Ann would make a great First Lady.  But, to get her, we'd have to have Mitt.  No thanks. 

And this political chatter should be with the thread in The (infamous) Sandbox.

This is America.  We can articulate our opinions.  Even Mr. Johnston.   ;)

Rock and Roll is a "rough-and-tumble" business.