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Title: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: letsmakeit31 on January 02, 2011, 01:58:47 AM
Well it does look like and as hinted on past topics that we will have some kind of box set this year. Lots of youtube videos are being taken off which has studio sessions on them esp from the Smile sessions, Which like I've said before can only be a good thing as we would all love to see, hear and buy it officially!!!.
Here is what I believe may be incuding in the box set,
1) a few minutes from the first ever studio Beach Boys sessions
2) Some early outside productions e.g. Honeys etc
3) Sessions from Beach Boys Today/Summer Days Albums
4) A few Remixed Tracks from Pet Sounds?? (Do we need more?, Yes because Pet Sounds is so groundbreaking!!)
5) Lot's of Smile Sessions With Full Stereo Mixes Of Selected Songs e.g. Do You like Worms, Wonderful. This could be a mini Box set within a box set??.
6) Vocal only Remixed Songs e.g. Till I Die, Smily Smile Version of Wonderful (Please add more to this list)
7) Track only Songs e.g. This Whole World.
8) Just a few unreleased Songs but esp Wouldn't it be nice to live again, and a few other early Dennis Wilson, Brian Wilson songs.
9) One New Song just for old times with Mike, Brian, Al, And Bruce at least and maybe one or two celebrity fans joining in too.
10) Good Vibrations in full Stereo including the vocals which are hidden away in Brian's sandbox!! lol.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: letsmakeit31 on January 02, 2011, 02:01:42 AM
Please Add to this or comment on this and lets see who will be right when we will all buy this this year fingers crossed ;D


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: A Million Units In Jan! on January 02, 2011, 02:05:33 AM
Just because they're taking down videos doesn't mean anything- except BRI doesn't want unreleased stuff that shouldn't be out in the first place being tossed out there for anyone to see or hear.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on January 02, 2011, 02:16:13 AM
Call me a pessimist, but I don't see anything other than the typical oldies collection coming out.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: letsmakeit31 on January 02, 2011, 02:19:05 AM
Just because they're taking down videos doesn't mean anything- except BRI doesn't want unreleased stuff that shouldn't be out in the first place being tossed out there for anyone to see or hear.
Maybe your right but im just living in hope that it's because some of the stuff will soon be released which is something we all want :)
but of course i wouldn't want any on my stuff put onto youtube that's been locked away for years :police:


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on January 02, 2011, 02:21:25 AM
Just because they're taking down videos doesn't mean anything- except BRI doesn't want unreleased stuff that shouldn't be out in the first place being tossed out there for anyone to see or hear.

Maybe so, but some/most of this stuff has been up for years, so why suddenly get all huffy about it ?  The timing is, at worst, intriguing. Not that I've got an inside track or anything, but sometimes the obvious deduction can be the right one, even in the mad world of the BB.  I hope so. As for the box set proposed below...

1) there's a whole CD of this, has been since 1991
2) separate 2CD set, please
3) nice, but...
4) why ?
5) see #2 (but 3/4 CDs)
6) good idea
7) see #6
VIII) hell, yes !
9) cool, go for it
10) As. If.  ;D


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: letsmakeit31 on January 02, 2011, 02:23:39 AM
Call me a pessimist, but I don't see anything other than the typical oldies collection coming out.
No I don't think so (Hopefully!!) The Beach Boys has done too much groundbreaking work esp during the 60's and any record label that's not in debit lol!! Would wanna celebrate that fact!!!


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on January 02, 2011, 02:27:04 AM
Wishful thinking time...unreleased collection that has many previously unbooted songs.

Sigh....I need to hear something I haven't heard before. I miss the sense of discovery...


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: letsmakeit31 on January 02, 2011, 02:41:02 AM
Thanks Andrew for your input ;D ok in answer to your points
1) Yes their is a 2cd set, but i think it would be included in a box set like the 1st cd of the new Jimi Hendrix Box set "West Settle Boy" and not alot of people know it's out their or have got it e.g. Me lol
2) YES please but I think one or tracks or sessions would be nice to hear how Brian was in control of the studio back in the day.
3) My thought was it's shows how far Brian was progessing in the studio and paved the way for Pet Sounds.
4) Why? I don't really wanna hear anymore "Remixed" trracks from Pet sounds but i believe their will be a few included.....
5) Great idea Andrew!!, But Box set please, Saying that i wouldnt mind paying out for a 3/4 set of this as well!!!!.
6) Thank you
7) Thank you (again)
8) This is all our dreams and if it's only going to be a few tracks PLEASE release "Wouldn't it be nice to live again" at the very least!!!
9) I can see this quickly and easily happen cause it's closure for everyone but esp Brian!!!
!0) This is the world of the Beach Boys stranger things has happened lol ;D.
Happy new Year Andrew and to everyone else here


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on January 02, 2011, 02:51:38 AM
2 CD set of the Morgan sessions ?  That's one that snuck under my radar - label & track listing, please. Unless you mean In The Beginning, of course, which being a bootleg, I've not heard nor do I have any wish to.  ::)


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: letsmakeit31 on January 02, 2011, 02:54:08 AM
2 CD set of the Morgan sessions ?  That's one that snuck under my radar - label & track listing, please. Unless you mean In The Beginning, of course, which being a bootleg, I've not heard nor do I have any wish to.  ::)
Ive not heard the "In the beginning" bootleg too or the 2CD Morgan Sessions so it's an unknown thing for me


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on January 02, 2011, 02:59:33 AM
This is purely top of the head, but, were Capitol to devote the time, budget and care to the BB's 50th that they doubtless will to The Beatles, this would be my gameplan:

50 Good Vibrations - 2CD set for the general public

America's Band 1961-2011 - 4CD box (essentially the 1993 set updated/remastered, but minus...)

The Smile Sessions 1966-67 - 4CD box

The Brian Wilson Productions 1962-1975 - 2/3CD set, including the entire Spring album.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on January 02, 2011, 03:00:14 AM
2 CD set of the Morgan sessions ?  That's one that snuck under my radar - label & track listing, please. Unless you mean In The Beginning, of course, which being a bootleg, I've not heard nor do I have any wish to.  ::)
Ive not heard the "In the beginning" bootleg too or the 2CD Morgan Sessions so it's an unknown thing for me

So what's this 2CD set of the early sessions you've mentioned ?


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: XY on January 02, 2011, 03:08:19 AM
I think the mid 70's need some attention. Brian's piano version of "California Feelin'" (Ok, a CD full of Brian's demos, add "Awake" + "Love You" Demos), "Adult/Child" songs, "You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling", alternate 15 BO mixes like that powerfull mix of "Rock 'n' Roll Music" that was broadcasted on radio, etc.
"Back Home" - the 1963 + 1969 versions, Remix of "Our Sweet Love" with Brian's b/v from GET THE BOOT early version.
SMiLE? Hard to say, because everything needs to be released to get a proper 'official' look on that work. Something like the interactive Project SMiLE CD.
"Sandy" from "Summer Days"-Sessions + "Guess I'm Dump" from "Today".
"Marie" unreleased 1963 + beautiful "Visions".


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: letsmakeit31 on January 02, 2011, 03:14:43 AM
2 CD set of the Morgan sessions ?  That's one that snuck under my radar - label & track listing, please. Unless you mean In The Beginning, of course, which being a bootleg, I've not heard nor do I have any wish to.  ::)
Ive not heard the "In the beginning" bootleg too or the 2CD Morgan Sessions so it's an unknown thing for me

So what's this 2CD set of the early sessions you've mentioned ?
Never heard any of the early sessions per 1963 but I just thought it would be nice to include one or two tracks in a box set


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: letsmakeit31 on January 02, 2011, 03:17:38 AM
This is purely top of the head, but, were Capitol to devote the time, budget and care to the BB's 50th that they doubtless will to The Beatles, this would be my gameplan:

50 Good Vibrations - 2CD set for the general public

America's Band 1961-2011 - 4CD box (essentially the 1993 set updated/remastered, but minus...)

The Smile Sessions 1966-67 - 4CD box

The Brian Wilson Productions 1962-1975 - 2/3CD set, including the entire Spring album.
The Smile Sessions and the Brian Wilson productions would be top of my list esp hearing the Spring Album Remastered and maybe remixed?? ;D.
 


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: The Real Barnyard on January 02, 2011, 04:35:57 AM
And what about a De Luxe Box-Set In Concert 4CD + DVD + LP + 40 page booklet, something like the recent Live At Leeds by The Who.
CD 1: The original 1973 In Concert LP remastered.
CD 2: Hollywood Palladium 1973
CD 3: Chicago 1973
CD 4: Hartford 1973
DVD: 1972 Carnegie Hall film
LP: Original single LP proposed to WB.

My dream-come-true Box-Set!!


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Fall Breaks on January 02, 2011, 04:48:15 AM
Yes, the original single LP In Concert would be nice, because then I'd finally get to hear a BB version of "Jumpin' Jack Flash" in good quality.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Paulos on January 02, 2011, 04:54:35 AM
How about a special bonus compilation of different versions of Barbara Ann for Andrews enjoyment?

'The Best Of The Beach Boys - Barbara Ann'

1. Barbara Ann (Beach Boys' Party! version)
2. Barbara Ann (Single version)
3. Barbara Ann (Session excerpt)
4. Barbara Ann (Master Take Without Party! Overdubs)
5. Barbara Ann - Live (Live In London)
6. Barbara Ann - Live (Good Timin': Live At Knebworth, England 1980)
7. Barbara Ann - Live (Brian Wilson, Live At The Roxy)
8. Barbara Ann - Live (Al Jardine FAF, Live In Las Vegas)


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Mike's Beard on January 02, 2011, 05:23:07 AM
Seriously if all that comes out of the 50 year anniversary is another "Greatest Hits" collection from the surf era I will be booking the first available flight to America, with the sole intention of personally kicking Mike as hard as I can in the nuts.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: shelter on January 02, 2011, 07:00:32 AM
I'm hoping for a Smile box set, another Endless Harmony/Hawthorne CA type of compilation, and maybe a live album.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: rab2591 on January 02, 2011, 07:40:54 AM
Well it does look like and as hinted on past topics that we will have some kind of box set this year. Lots of youtube videos are being taken off which has studio sessions on them esp from the Smile sessions, Which like I've said before can only be a good thing as we would all love to see, hear and buy it officially!!!.
Here is what I believe may be incuding in the box set,
1) a few minutes from the first ever studio Beach Boys sessions
2) Some early outside productions e.g. Honeys etc
3) Sessions from Beach Boys Today/Summer Days Albums
4) A few Remixed Tracks from Pet Sounds?? (Do we need more?, Yes because Pet Sounds is so groundbreaking!!)
5) Lot's of Smile Sessions With Full Stereo Mixes Of Selected Songs e.g. Do You like Worms, Wonderful. This could be a mini Box set within a box set??.
6) Vocal only Remixed Songs e.g. Till I Die, Smily Smile Version of Wonderful (Please add more to this list)
7) Track only Songs e.g. This Whole World.
8) Just a few unreleased Songs but esp Wouldn't it be nice to live again, and a few other early Dennis Wilson, Brian Wilson songs.
9) One New Song just for old times with Mike, Brian, Al, And Bruce at least and maybe one or two celebrity fans joining in too.
10) Good Vibrations in full Stereo including the vocals which are hidden away in Brian's sandbox!! lol.


Jeesh, that would be a perfect boxset. Love the idea of the Vocals-only of SS 'Wonderful' - I think I'd add 'Don't Worry Baby' and the Coda of 'A Day In The Life Of A Tree' to the vocals-only disc.

They need to finally release 'In The Back Of My Mind (instrumental)'....Also, the instrumental for 'Wake The World' would be a nice addition.

I'd also like to see the official release of the demos from the 'Love You' era.

Also, I know it has been talked about before, but a 'Best Of Brian Wilson' from the Brian Camp would be great. I'd add some instrumentals from TLOS/BWRG as a bonus.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Mikie on January 02, 2011, 08:03:45 AM
Cool!! Another 50th Anniversary release track listing?  Because there's nothing else to talk about so what the hell?

Like I said here before two or three times:

I'm with Shelter. A comprehensive Smile box set, another Endless Harmony/Hawthorne CA type of compilation, and maybe a live album/unplugged box set.

Reality: What 50 Centaur said.  The typical oldies collection will come out.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: lance on January 02, 2011, 08:13:22 AM
Whatever does come out, we're sure to bitch about it!

Personally, I think a box set ala Good Vibrations would be redundant.

What I most want in the world is a collection of previously unreleased outtakes--good ones, bad ones, I don't care as long as there were a bunch of them.

I'd be excited about another Hawthorne with a few unreleased outtakes and a lot of instrumental mixes, etc, but not as much as the third.

I'd also definitely be excited about a two disc Pet Projects.

Some of the other things, like vocal only mixes or stacks-o-tracks...I'd buy them, don't get me wrong, but what I mostly want is new songs(even if they are actually old and have been circulating on bootleg.)


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Matt H on January 02, 2011, 08:39:31 AM
Whatever does come out, we're sure to bitch about it!

Personally, I think a box set ala Good Vibrations would be redundant.

What I most want in the world is a collection of previously unreleased outtakes--good ones, bad ones, I don't care as long as there were a bunch of them.

I'd be excited about another Hawthorne with a few unreleased outtakes and a lot of instrumental mixes, etc, but not as much as the third.

I'd also definitely be excited about a two disc Pet Projects.

Some of the other things, like vocal only mixes or stacks-o-tracks...I'd buy them, don't get me wrong, but what I mostly want is new songs(even if they are actually old and have been circulating on bootleg.)


Agree 100%, I want songs that have not been previously released.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: c-man on January 02, 2011, 09:27:08 AM
2 CD set of the Morgan sessions ?  That's one that snuck under my radar - label & track listing, please. Unless you mean In The Beginning, of course, which being a bootleg, I've not heard nor do I have any wish to.  ::)
Ive not heard the "In the beginning" bootleg too or the 2CD Morgan Sessions so it's an unknown thing for me

So what's this 2CD set of the early sessions you've mentioned ?

Probably thinking of Bruce Morgan's/Brad Elliott's infamous planned release of the full Morgan session tapes, which was thrawted by BRI legal action.  After Brad had fleeced a number of fans who contributed advance money towards the release.  :(


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Mike's Beard on January 02, 2011, 09:29:45 AM
A Smile boxset (this is guaranteed to sell)
A comprehensive two or three disk Live CD set with as much focus on the 69-73 years as they can get away with plus maybe a bonus DVD if good enough footage is available.
If they must stick another "best of" out there why not pair it with an "Endless Harmony/Hawthorne" type comp? This makes good commercial sense as it would appeal to casual fans (and hopefully would turn them on to stuff other than the "62-67" period) whilst giving the hardcore fans what they desperately want also.

Our only real hope seems to lie with Al. Mike is said to be against anymore unreleased material coming out, feeling it would just be barrel scraping and Brian just doesn't care, so that really leaves Al as the last guy standing who has any interest in the lesser known corners of the group's career reaching a wider audience.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on January 02, 2011, 10:09:02 AM
How about a special bonus compilation of different versions of Barbara Ann for Andrews enjoyment?

'The Best Of The Beach Boys - Barbara Ann'

1. Barbara Ann (Beach Boys' Party! version)
2. Barbara Ann (Single version)
3. Barbara Ann (Session excerpt)
4. Barbara Ann (Master Take Without Party! Overdubs)
5. Barbara Ann - Live (Live In London)
6. Barbara Ann - Live (Good Timin': Live At Knebworth, England 1980)
7. Barbara Ann - Live (Brian Wilson, Live At The Roxy)
8. Barbara Ann - Live (Al Jardine FAF, Live In Las Vegas)


It's a very good thing you're going to be 10,000 miles away from me soon.  ;D


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: shelter on January 02, 2011, 10:12:17 AM
It certainly wouldn't be a surprise if they're going to release yet another greatest hits compilation, but could they really get away with that? You can't make a (one disc) greatest hits compilation that's any more "definitive" than 'Sounds of Summer'.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: letsmakeit31 on January 02, 2011, 10:14:26 AM
Well it does look like and as hinted on past topics that we will have some kind of box set this year. Lots of youtube videos are being taken off which has studio sessions on them esp from the Smile sessions, Which like I've said before can only be a good thing as we would all love to see, hear and buy it officially!!!.
Here is what I believe may be incuding in the box set,
1) a few minutes from the first ever studio Beach Boys sessions
2) Some early outside productions e.g. Honeys etc
3) Sessions from Beach Boys Today/Summer Days Albums
4) A few Remixed Tracks from Pet Sounds?? (Do we need more?, Yes because Pet Sounds is so groundbreaking!!)
5) Lot's of Smile Sessions With Full Stereo Mixes Of Selected Songs e.g. Do You like Worms, Wonderful. This could be a mini Box set within a box set??.
6) Vocal only Remixed Songs e.g. Till I Die, Smily Smile Version of Wonderful (Please add more to this list)
7) Track only Songs e.g. This Whole World.
8) Just a few unreleased Songs but esp Wouldn't it be nice to live again, and a few other early Dennis Wilson, Brian Wilson songs.
9) One New Song just for old times with Mike, Brian, Al, And Bruce at least and maybe one or two celebrity fans joining in too.
10) Good Vibrations in full Stereo including the vocals which are hidden away in Brian's sandbox!! lol.


Jeesh, that would be a perfect boxset. Love the idea of the Vocals-only of SS 'Wonderful' - I think I'd add 'Don't Worry Baby' and the Coda of 'A Day In The Life Of A Tree' to the vocals-only disc.

They need to finally release 'In The Back Of My Mind (instrumental)'....Also, the instrumental for 'Wake The World' would be a nice addition.

I'd also like to see the official release of the demos from the 'Love You' era.

Also, I know it has been talked about before, but a 'Best Of Brian Wilson' from the Brian Camp would be great. I'd add some instrumentals from TLOS/BWRG as a bonus.
In fact ANY Songs from "Friends track only or Vocals or indeed remixed would make me happy Thank you very much ;D


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: letsmakeit31 on January 02, 2011, 10:19:15 AM
It certainly wouldn't be a surprise if they're going to release yet another greatest hits compilation, but could they really get away with that? You can't make a (one disc) greatest hits compilation that's any more "definitive" than 'Sounds of Summer'.
I'm pretty sure it's not going to be another greatest hits, At the very least an download only of 2CD album of outtakes and highlights at the VERY VERY least trust me!!! ;D


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: letsmakeit31 on January 02, 2011, 10:27:33 AM
2 CD set of the Morgan sessions ?  That's one that snuck under my radar - label & track listing, please. Unless you mean In The Beginning, of course, which being a bootleg, I've not heard nor do I have any wish to.  ::)
Ive not heard the "In the beginning" bootleg too or the 2CD Morgan Sessions so it's an unknown thing for me

So what's this 2CD set of the early sessions you've mentioned ?
Sorry Andrew I've got it wrong!! I was thinking of "In the beginning" Bootleg. I dont want anyone thinking there's something else out there too!!.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: rab2591 on January 02, 2011, 10:50:26 AM
Well it does look like and as hinted on past topics that we will have some kind of box set this year. Lots of youtube videos are being taken off which has studio sessions on them esp from the Smile sessions, Which like I've said before can only be a good thing as we would all love to see, hear and buy it officially!!!.
Here is what I believe may be incuding in the box set,
1) a few minutes from the first ever studio Beach Boys sessions
2) Some early outside productions e.g. Honeys etc
3) Sessions from Beach Boys Today/Summer Days Albums
4) A few Remixed Tracks from Pet Sounds?? (Do we need more?, Yes because Pet Sounds is so groundbreaking!!)
5) Lot's of Smile Sessions With Full Stereo Mixes Of Selected Songs e.g. Do You like Worms, Wonderful. This could be a mini Box set within a box set??.
6) Vocal only Remixed Songs e.g. Till I Die, Smily Smile Version of Wonderful (Please add more to this list)
7) Track only Songs e.g. This Whole World.
8) Just a few unreleased Songs but esp Wouldn't it be nice to live again, and a few other early Dennis Wilson, Brian Wilson songs.
9) One New Song just for old times with Mike, Brian, Al, And Bruce at least and maybe one or two celebrity fans joining in too.
10) Good Vibrations in full Stereo including the vocals which are hidden away in Brian's sandbox!! lol.


Jeesh, that would be a perfect boxset. Love the idea of the Vocals-only of SS 'Wonderful' - I think I'd add 'Don't Worry Baby' and the Coda of 'A Day In The Life Of A Tree' to the vocals-only disc.

They need to finally release 'In The Back Of My Mind (instrumental)'....Also, the instrumental for 'Wake The World' would be a nice addition.

I'd also like to see the official release of the demos from the 'Love You' era.

Also, I know it has been talked about before, but a 'Best Of Brian Wilson' from the Brian Camp would be great. I'd add some instrumentals from TLOS/BWRG as a bonus.
In fact ANY Songs from "Friends track only or Vocals or indeed remixed would make me happy Thank you very much ;D

Indeed! I meant to add 'Little Bird' and 'Busy Doin' Nothin'' to the backing track list. 'Anna Lee' the healer would make a great a cappella track!


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Mahalo on January 02, 2011, 10:52:19 AM
Anything without a full SMiLE treatment would be a bit of a let down...


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: rab2591 on January 02, 2011, 11:06:08 AM
Anything without a full SMiLE treatment would be a bit of a let down...

They did an entire Pet Sounds boxset which was aimed at people like us...my money is that they make a SMiLE boxset with HIGH quality stereo/mono mixes, vocal tracks, a booklet with the original artwork. SMiLE is too big a moneymaker (if they market it right) for them to keep ignoring.

I like the aforementioned idea of an endless-summer/hawthorne duo that would broaden the horizons of the majority of Beach Boys fans. But then again, 'Warmth of the Sun' and 'Sounds of Summer' kinda did that.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: bgas on January 02, 2011, 11:35:04 AM
Seriously if all that comes out of the 50 year anniversary is another "Greatest Hits" collection from the surf era I will be booking the first available flight to America, with the sole intention of personally kicking Mike as hard as I can in the nuts.

Seems like a lot of wasted $$/energy; just invite him over the pond and kick him then and there. HARD

I think the mid 70's need some attention. Brian's piano version of "California Feelin'" (Ok, a CD full of Brian's demos, add "Awake" + "Love You" Demos), "Adult/Child" songs, "You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling", alternate 15 BO mixes like that powerfull mix of "Rock 'n' Roll Music" that was broadcasted on radio, etc.

Since most suggestions so far seem to be Capitol owned material, who does own the mid-70's recordings? 
Is it the BBs/BRI or did WEA pay for some of this stuff and still have an ownership interest. If so, would they be likely to release something? 


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Peter Reum on January 02, 2011, 11:46:26 AM
Capitol owns the rights to all studio recordings as of a few years ago. The Beach Boys retain the rights to all live recordings.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: bgas on January 02, 2011, 11:50:12 AM
Capitol owns the rights to all studio recordings as of a few years ago. The Beach Boys retain the rights to all live recordings.

That would seem to bode well, then, for studio release box sets. If Brian doesn't care, Al does, and Mike's against, Someone just has to convince Brian to care; who here is on MW's good side?


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Mike's Beard on January 02, 2011, 11:51:50 AM
Seriously if all that comes out of the 50 year anniversary is another "Greatest Hits" collection from the surf era I will be booking the first available flight to America, with the sole intention of personally kicking Mike as hard as I can in the nuts.

Seems like a lot of wasted $$/energy; just invite him over the pond and kick him then and there. HARD



I will kick him in his tackle so hard he'll be able to sing the lead on "Don't Worry Baby" perfectly.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: punkinhead on January 02, 2011, 11:56:30 AM
A comprehensive two or three disk Live CD set with as much focus on the 69-73 years as they can get away with plus maybe a bonus DVD if good enough footage is available.

I think it'd also be great to get in studio footage/documentries along with talk show appearences that have been recorded over the years that have yet to release besides being televised once or twice. Documentries like the 'Our Team-MIU' doc, Goin' Platinum (KTSA doc) plus promo concert performing songs from KTSA, Japanese promo video of L.A. songs being performed, the 25th Anniversery special, the POB promo video, footage shot in Holland (example from the Sail On Sailor video on EH dvd), the appearences we see on youtube of Breakaway being performed on a tv show along with Never Learn Not to Love and the tv show appearence where WIBN and Cool Cool Water are performed. Also, the talk show where they played Lady and Vegetables.

Question: Is the Big Sur Concert from the early 70s recorded on camera? or just an audio recording?


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: smile-holland on January 02, 2011, 12:10:14 PM
could be wrong, but I think that :
(a) it's pretty much 100% sure that the Vegetables / Fallin' In Love performance doesn't exist on videotape anymore, and
(b) ditto for the WIBN / Cool Cool Water vids. The only reason that it circulates is because at one point someone made a "safety copy" from the faults.

But we can dream, can't we (if that is what you meant)?   :)


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: bgas on January 02, 2011, 12:30:20 PM
could be wrong, but I think that :
(a) it's pretty much 100% sure that the Vegetables / Fallin' In Love performance doesn't exist on videotape anymore, and
(b) ditto for the WIBN / Cool Cool Water vids. The only reason that it circulates is because at one point someone made a "safety copy" from the faults.

But we can dream, can't we (if that is what you meant)?   :)

Both are most likely true; but suppose an affiliate somewhere, did a delayed broadcast, and still has the tape in their vaults. 
Improbable, I think, but not impossible.
Now, how to find that station...


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Dutchie on January 02, 2011, 12:56:47 PM
I also love to see a complete singles box set. 1961-1996. I have a compilation from some one that put al the single releases on mp3 format from 1976-1989, just fantastic !! The boys released some singles in the 80's that were never officially on cd.

A live cd from the 90's would be great.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Mikie on January 02, 2011, 01:45:18 PM
Documentries like the 'Our Team-MIU' doc, Goin' Platinum (KTSA doc) plus promo concert performing songs from KTSA, Japanese promo video of L.A. songs being performed, the 25th Anniversary special, the POB promo video, footage shot in Holland.

Those are good ones, and don't forget the "20th Anniversary Special", the "It's OK" NBC Special, and the "Wouldn't Be Nice" documentary (shown in the UK), all of which contain footage and soundbites unavailable anywhere else.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Mikie on January 02, 2011, 01:51:48 PM
I haven't heard of Brian being asked recently, but unless he's softened and changed his mind since he said no two or three years ago, I doubt very much that we'll see a Beach Boys SMiLE release. I think Brian still has the last word on it, right?


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Matt H on January 02, 2011, 02:07:52 PM
I am waiting for the official "Two Step, Side Step" 50th anniversary release, with accompanying DVD that shows original Straight 8 footage of Murry Wilson doing the official Two Step, Side Step dance.

I realize that the 50th Anniversary has already passed, but passed on the American Family timeline, it is right around the time of Surfin'.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: metal flake paint on January 02, 2011, 02:22:47 PM
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Question: Is the Big Sur Concert from the early 70s recorded on camera? or just an audio recording?

IIRC, only audio.

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Also, the talk show where they played Lady and Vegetables.

Unfortunately The David Frost Show footage was erased years ago.

One piece of footage that I'd like to see, and seemingly does exist is from the ABC TV show, Get It Together, where they performed "Add Some Music To Your Day."


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: bgas on January 02, 2011, 02:25:02 PM
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Question: Is the Big Sur Concert from the early 70s recorded on camera? or just an audio recording?

IIRC, only audio.

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Also, the talk show where they played Lady and Vegetables.

Unfortunately The David Frost Show footage was erased years ago.

One piece of footage that I'd like to see, and seemingly does exist is from the ABC TV show, Get It Together, where they performed "Add Some Music To Your Day."

OK, so what network broadcast The Frost show?


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Pretty Funky on January 02, 2011, 02:26:57 PM
The recent removal of video from youtube, some of it after many years as mentioned. I have a vision of a guy in overalls with a mop at some nameless, faceless Brother office in a strip mall who wakes from a slumber every few years.

Yawns...'Better check on youtube, whoa...is it 2011 already, better tidy up that greatest hits section'.

 :(


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: bgas on January 02, 2011, 02:32:43 PM
I am waiting for the official "Two Step, Side Step" 50th anniversary release, with accompanying DVD that shows original Straight 8 footage of Murry Wilson doing the official Two Step, Side Step dance.

I realize that the 50th Anniversary has already passed, but passed on the American Family timeline, it is right around the time of Surfin'.


Maybe you could put on Murrry's old dancing shoes and fake it.  I'll send you a pic of the steps, if you don't have them


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: metal flake paint on January 02, 2011, 02:43:41 PM
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Question: Is the Big Sur Concert from the early 70s recorded on camera? or just an audio recording?

IIRC, only audio.

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Also, the talk show where they played Lady and Vegetables.

Unfortunately The David Frost Show footage was erased years ago.

One piece of footage that I'd like to see, and seemingly does exist is from the ABC TV show, Get It Together, where they performed "Add Some Music To Your Day."

OK, so what network broadcast The Frost show?

Unsure of the network but, from Wikipedia: "From 1969 to 1972, Frost kept his London shows and fronted The David Frost Show on the Group W (U.S. Westinghouse Corporation) television stations in the United States."

Edit: Both 1971 shows emanated from New York, NY.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Matt H on January 02, 2011, 02:50:02 PM
I am waiting for the official "Two Step, Side Step" 50th anniversary release, with accompanying DVD that shows original Straight 8 footage of Murry Wilson doing the official Two Step, Side Step dance.

I realize that the 50th Anniversary has already passed, but passed on the American Family timeline, it is right around the time of Surfin'.


Maybe you could put on Murrry's old dancing shoes and fake it.  I'll send you a pic of the steps, if you don't have them

Do you seriously have a picture of it?  Is it Murry?  I would love to see that.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Paulos on January 02, 2011, 02:55:59 PM
How about a special bonus compilation of different versions of Barbara Ann for Andrews enjoyment?

'The Best Of The Beach Boys - Barbara Ann'

1. Barbara Ann (Beach Boys' Party! version)
2. Barbara Ann (Single version)
3. Barbara Ann (Session excerpt)
4. Barbara Ann (Master Take Without Party! Overdubs)
5. Barbara Ann - Live (Live In London)
6. Barbara Ann - Live (Good Timin': Live At Knebworth, England 1980)
7. Barbara Ann - Live (Brian Wilson, Live At The Roxy)
8. Barbara Ann - Live (Al Jardine FAF, Live In Las Vegas)


It's a very good thing you're going to be 10,000 miles away from me soon.  ;D

I really want to burn this album on a CD and send it to you.  ;D


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: bgas on January 02, 2011, 03:47:29 PM
I am waiting for the official "Two Step, Side Step" 50th anniversary release, with accompanying DVD that shows original Straight 8 footage of Murry Wilson doing the official Two Step, Side Step dance.

I realize that the 50th Anniversary has already passed, but passed on the American Family timeline, it is right around the time of Surfin'.


Maybe you could put on Murrry's old dancing shoes and fake it.  I'll send you a pic of the steps, if you don't have them

Do you seriously have a picture of it?  Is it Murry?  I would love to see that.

Its sheet music for "Two Step-Side Step" copyright 1953 by Guild Music( the connection) ; The scans are now up. hope you enjoy them.
Tho Lawrence Welk is pictured, I've never found any evidence he actually recorded it.  Anyone?


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: punkinhead on January 02, 2011, 06:16:08 PM
could be wrong, but I think that :
(a) it's pretty much 100% sure that the Vegetables / Fallin' In Love performance doesn't exist on videotape anymore, and
(b) ditto for the WIBN / Cool Cool Water vids. The only reason that it circulates is because at one point someone made a "safety copy" from the faults.

But we can dream, can't we (if that is what you meant)?   :)

So how did the Endless Harmony doc have footage from the Frost Show? (I think that's the one with WIBN/CCW is performed). Also, are other appearances and documentaries on the BB erased from history?
I do have the audio to the Our Team promo, but I wanna SEE it, I wanna see them rehearse Mike Come Back to LA and Our Team and Dennis sing My Diane.

ADD to the list of doc's that we need an official release of some kind, the Europe doc. from 68 or 69? Some of it appears in the EH doc. and perhaps the Beach Boys in London in 66 or 67 that was released a couple years ago, WITH AUDIO!  ;) 


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Mahalo on January 02, 2011, 06:30:40 PM
...add to that the missing Inside Pop takes...  :3d


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: metal flake paint on January 02, 2011, 07:00:46 PM
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So how did the Endless Harmony doc have footage from the Frost Show? (I think that's the one with WIBN/CCW is performed).

A friend of Alan Boyd's working as a tape operator/archivist for the company that syndicated the David Frost Show loved the performance so much that he made a copy of it for himself.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: metal flake paint on January 02, 2011, 07:10:02 PM
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Also, are other appearances and documentaries on the BB erased from history?

So many, it's depressing :'(

One that comes to mind is an early appearnce on the Mike Douglas Show where they performed "Little Bird", "Friends" & "Graduation Day." The master tape had deteriorated beyond playback.



Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: punkinhead on January 02, 2011, 09:25:26 PM
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Also, are other appearances and documentaries on the BB erased from history?

So many, it's depressing :'(

One that comes to mind is an early appearnce on the Mike Douglas Show where they performed "Little Bird", "Friends" & "Graduation Day." The master tape had deteriorated beyond playback.



dang, has the audio ever showed up anywhere?


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: bgas on January 02, 2011, 10:18:02 PM
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Also, are other appearances and documentaries on the BB erased from history?

So many, it's depressing :'(

One that comes to mind is an early appearnce on the Mike Douglas Show where they performed "Little Bird", "Friends" & "Graduation Day." The master tape had deteriorated beyond playback.



dang, has the audio ever showed up anywhere?

Meet me in my dreams tonight...


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: lance on January 02, 2011, 10:42:29 PM
Another thing that I'd be real excited about would be a reissue of all albums with bonus tracks. Something like Jason Penick's deluxe BB collections, with all outtakes, alternate takes, both previously released and unreleased, on a separate disc.
You know , something htat finally collected it all and put it out in one neat(if huge) package, with a bonus disc for released stuff that wasn't really on albums. It would be so nice to have a BB catalogue as nice and neat and concise as the Beach Boys.

Man, I'd spend a lot of money on those; and it would take me ages to get them all, as I live in a country where CDs are ridicoulously expensive(think 25-30 bucks a pop) but I'd spend it for that.(hint, hint, powers that be.)


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on January 02, 2011, 11:30:56 PM
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It would be so nice to have a BB catalogue as nice and neat and concise as the Beach Boys.

I think you meant the Beatles at the end. That's how I read it anyway :lol


I agree though with your sentiments. Let me put it this way. Here in 2011, I would PAY MONEY FOR A PHYSICAL COPY. Yes...in 2011 I would BUY ANY AND ALL CDS featuring such material. I know for a fact some of the inner circle lurk here, so I hope I made my point clear. I think if it had a Brian lead, it needs to be released. Period. Good and bad of the BB era of his music. Doesn't matter. I want to hear the 74 cuts at some point in my lifetime.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: runnersdialzero on January 03, 2011, 02:05:57 AM
Thread title is extremely misleading :(

I'd kill for some proper re-releases of all albums. No harsh limiting, no noise reduction, both mono/stereo when possible or when both exist, extensive liner notes, and bonus tracks. I've only properly bought a few Beach Boys albums because of all the various versions, problems etc. that are present on the versions that exist now because I'm holding out for something better.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on January 03, 2011, 02:17:02 AM
Thread title is extremely misleading :(

I'd kill for some proper re-releases of all albums. No harsh limiting, no noise reduction, both mono/stereo when possible or when both exist, extensive liner notes, and bonus tracks. I've only properly bought a few Beach Boys albums because of all the various versions, problems etc. that are present on the versions that exist now because I'm holding out for something better.

I think you're holding out for something that may very well never happen, however desirable.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: metal flake paint on January 03, 2011, 02:54:26 AM
Very desirable=All future extensive liner notes to be penned by AGD ;)


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: The Heartical Don on January 03, 2011, 04:38:47 AM
Very desirable=All future extensive liner notes to be penned by AGD ;)

I second that.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Rocker on January 03, 2011, 02:04:26 PM
Capitol owns the rights to all studio recordings as of a few years ago. The Beach Boys retain the rights to all live recordings.


I believe Bruce mentioned a couple of years ago that he'd like to release the '93 "unplugged"-shows. Unfortunately he probably doesn't have anything to say about it.



I'd love a dvd with all tv appearances they can find. There's a lot of interesting stuff.
And the "Lost concert" in complete form (Monster mash) and with the Beatles' and Lesley Gore's sets would be cool (like it will be shown in L.A. soon)
And of course some concerts on DVD would be nice, like the '69 olympia show for example


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Pretty Funky on January 03, 2011, 07:25:50 PM
Someone here will remember but didn't a poster from this site get a gig to go into Capitols vaults to catalogue everything 5 years or so ago? What ever came of that?

I will still try and think positive and would like to think we may get lucky this year. The 'Sounds Of Summer' and 'The Warmth Of The Sun' albums were not that long ago. Re-release them as a twofer type package for the 50th but this will surely be the last chance to have any interest in the rare material.

Stephen Desper did say the band wanted to do something for the 50th, and given the court cases seem to have been sorted, lets hope that may mean some interesting releases.

BTW. Any major package has probably already been decided on for a summer release so we may be wasting our breath!


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: alanjames on January 03, 2011, 07:55:38 PM
I doubt. Maybe one more compilation will come out, with 2 or 3 more new mixes again.
Archival releases? I'm so pessimist about it.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Myk Luhv on January 03, 2011, 08:26:15 PM
I'm also kind of pessimistic about it but I do hope if anything happens that it is the previously unbooted or unreleased studio stuff that gets priority over all else. I'll also gladly take previously booted stuff that is sourced from significantly better tapes.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Mike's Beard on January 03, 2011, 09:13:58 PM
Does full visual footage for Lei'd in Hawaii exist? That would make a good release.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: theCOD on January 03, 2011, 10:12:40 PM
Someone here will remember but didn't a poster from this site get a gig to go into Capitols vaults to catalogue everything 5 years or so ago? What ever came of that?

I believe that poster was aeijtzsche, and nothing has come of it as far as I know.

The Beach Boys/Capital will not receive another dime from me until they release a SMiLE box set.  If and when that glorious day comes, I'll buy one for myself and every friend and family member who will listen.  I'm not interested in anything else they may have in the vaults.  I think everything The Beach Boys did after Friends (with the exception of Love You and maybe half of Sunflower) is worthless, so to say I'm not interested in songs that were cut from those records would be an understatement.  I've also bought all their greatest hits about 20 times over, and won't be doing so again, even for new stereo mixes.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: guitarfool2002 on January 03, 2011, 10:20:54 PM
Does full visual footage for Lei'd in Hawaii exist? That would make a good release.

No full footage, the film clips shown in the American Band documentary were bits and pieces of silent footage that they tried to sync together with other live performance audio, like Live In London if I recall.

The notion that the concerts were in any way filmed professionally was debunked much to my disappointment!

But I have a video clip in mind of the Hawaii era from American Band that shows something in the background which remains a mystery, and which when the right people appear on the scene I'll ask about it. Probably nothing.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: guitarfool2002 on January 03, 2011, 10:27:41 PM
...add to that the missing Inside Pop takes...  :3d

Indeed - that is the Holy Grail of footage, even though some suggest the audio track is long gone and it's basically silent footage at this point. Maybe someone can update that since the info is from several years ago.

No way in hell anything like that will come out officially. Probably.

The other really interesting missing video is Brian's Sony Porta-Pak videotape reels from when he got a camera setup gifted from Sony and started recording the exploits of his Smile friends and collaborators in 66-67. There are no signs whatsoever that anything survived, best as I ever heard. The Porta-Pak rig was the first consumer-grade video recorder, but with open reels instead of VHS or Beta style cartridges. Apparently Charles Manson had one too, with Dennis involved. But that's rumor.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Runaways on January 03, 2011, 10:46:33 PM
a smile boxset would be so good for the beach boys' lasting legacy.  i really hope for that. 


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Mahalo on January 04, 2011, 12:43:13 AM
The Beach Boys/Capital will not receive another dime from me until they release a SMiLE box set.  If and when that glorious day comes, I'll buy one for myself and every friend and family member who will listen.  I'm not interested in anything else they may have in the vaults.  I think everything The Beach Boys did after Friends (with the exception of Love You and maybe half of Sunflower) is worthless, so to say I'm not interested in songs that were cut from those records would be an understatement.  I've also bought all their greatest hits about 20 times over, and won't be doing so again, even for new stereo mixes.

Amen, Amen...I will not say that everything afterwards is worthless by any stretch of the imagination, but we have scraped the bottom of the trash-heap and are left longing for the most creative music that not only the band recorded but IMO was ever recorded in this medium...we as fans have kept the flame alive and deserve this musical muse as a comfort, inspiration, and treat to share with all our compadres...bring the SMiLE box set and I"ll bring the $$$....


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: hypehat on January 04, 2011, 12:47:21 AM
...add to that the missing Inside Pop takes...  :3d

Indeed - that is the Holy Grail of footage, even though some suggest the audio track is long gone and it's basically silent footage at this point. Maybe someone can update that since the info is from several years ago.

No way in hell anything like that will come out officially. Probably.

The other really interesting missing video is Brian's Sony Porta-Pak videotape reels from when he got a camera setup gifted from Sony and started recording the exploits of his Smile friends and collaborators in 66-67. There are no signs whatsoever that anything survived, best as I ever heard. The Porta-Pak rig was the first consumer-grade video recorder, but with open reels instead of VHS or Beta style cartridges. Apparently Charles Manson had one too, with Dennis involved. But that's rumor.

VDP got one at about the same time, apparently interviewing his friends. Including Brian.. wouldn't that be something to see!


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: metal flake paint on January 04, 2011, 01:00:38 AM
Does full visual footage for Lei'd in Hawaii exist? That would make a good release.

Here are some thoughts I saved about the L'eid in Hawaii footage from Alan Boyd:

The "Lei'd In Hawaii" material is definitely home movie footage, silent, shot on 16mm Kodachrome reversal stock. The scenes of Brian with the engineer (and the rest of the group and Marilyn, et al listening) must have been shot backstage at the venue in Honolulu. It's on one of the original rolls of film, along with performance shots, rehearsal shots, and scenes of the entourage's adventures on motorbikes, romping through the jungle, diving into pools, etc.

It's bright backstage there because they had the lights on - the performance footage is dark because the stage wasn't lit for film or video, and there are instances where the film appears speeded up because the cameraman (whom I believe was a member of the group's touring audio crew) knew he had to "under crank" the film (run it slower through the camera for a longer shutter speed) in order to get enough light on the film.

As for the video feed, that has to have been a B&W closed circuit feed set up so that the audio engineer could have some idea visually what was going on onstage - since he was backstage or off to the side, he'd have no other way of seeing what was happening. That's a common practice on mobile recording set-ups.

Those feeds certainly wouldn't have been recorded, at least not at that time. In 1967 recording video was still a pretty big deal - they were still using 2" tape with decks that were about the size of the average washing machine. 2" tape was very expensive stuff... one of the reasons so much early TV is gone is because the networks routinely re-used tape stock. The portable 1/2" B&W decks didn't come into use until the early 1970's, I think - and they weren't considered broadcast quality even then.

One last note - the footage shot of the Hawaii shows isn't comprehensive. The guy filming it was all over the place, grabbing quick bits here and there. There are no complete performances, and most of the shots are quite brief. I had to do some lip-reading to find Carl singing the first lines of "God Only Knows" for the "Endless Harmony" sequence, and I'm sure Malcolm Leo's editor had to do the same for "American Band." The other shots in our Lei'd In Hawaii "God Only Knows" sequence were from random shots of the two shows, and I recall having to slow some things down and move shots around a bit to make it appear as if the shots might have come from the same song.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on January 04, 2011, 01:17:48 AM
Someone here will remember but didn't a poster from this site get a gig to go into Capitols vaults to catalogue everything 5 years or so ago? What ever came of that?

I believe that poster was aeijtzsche, and nothing has come of it as far as I know.

The Beach Boys/Capital will not receive another dime from me until they release a SMiLE box set.  If and when that glorious day comes, I'll buy one for myself and every friend and family member who will listen.  I'm not interested in anything else they may have in the vaults.  I think everything The Beach Boys did after Friends (with the exception of Love You and maybe half of Sunflower) is worthless, so to say I'm not interested in songs that were cut from those records would be an understatement.  

So... you've heard everything else that's in the vaults to form this opinion, I take it ?

Your loss.

Also, if a Smile box ever comes to pass, someone will bitch about it - "we've got all this stuff already/why wasn't "xxxx" included ?/that bit didn't go there/etc...". Can't say I'm looking forward to that response.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: 18thofMay on January 04, 2011, 01:53:03 AM
Heard that there is no chance of Smile material coming out whilst the Beach Boys are still living.. I just heard that!


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: The Shift on January 04, 2011, 01:57:40 AM
Thread title is extremely misleading :(

I'd kill for some proper re-releases of all albums. No harsh limiting, no noise reduction, both mono/stereo when possible or when both exist, extensive liner notes, and bonus tracks. I've only properly bought a few Beach Boys albums because of all the various versions, problems etc. that are present on the versions that exist now because I'm holding out for something better.

I think you're holding out for something that may very well never happen, however desirable.

Aye, been here before. Given that all the Capitol albums have been released twice as two-fers, and the 70s albums comparatively recently as two-fers, I can't see Capitol going through the remaster process again with material that's been out there for so long that there's only a tiny diehard market for it.

It'd be lovely but I don't think it's going to happen. Got to bear in mind that the Beatles stuff was only ever available in dire-sounding versions, so their reissue programme was vital.

If you haven't got the two-fers, I'd get them now. They're well done.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: punkinhead on January 04, 2011, 03:18:03 AM
...add to that the missing Inside Pop takes...  :3d

Indeed - that is the Holy Grail of footage, even though some suggest the audio track is long gone and it's basically silent footage at this point. Maybe someone can update that since the info is from several years ago.

No way in hell anything like that will come out officially. Probably.

The other really interesting missing video is Brian's Sony Porta-Pak videotape reels from when he got a camera setup gifted from Sony and started recording the exploits of his Smile friends and collaborators in 66-67. There are no signs whatsoever that anything survived, best as I ever heard. The Porta-Pak rig was the first consumer-grade video recorder, but with open reels instead of VHS or Beta style cartridges. Apparently Charles Manson had one too, with Dennis involved. But that's rumor.

VDP got one at about the same time, apparently interviewing his friends. Including Brian.. wouldn't that be something to see!
Well even though it's silent footage, they should be able to release it with no problem, like they did the BB in London dvd; not a sound heard on there


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on January 04, 2011, 04:33:38 AM
Heard that there is no chance of Smile material coming out whilst the Beach Boys are still living.. I just heard that!

We all hear many things, from many people.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: The Heartical Don on January 04, 2011, 07:25:03 AM
...add to that the missing Inside Pop takes...  :3d

Indeed - that is the Holy Grail of footage, even though some suggest the audio track is long gone and it's basically silent footage at this point. Maybe someone can update that since the info is from several years ago.

No way in hell anything like that will come out officially. Probably.

The other really interesting missing video is Brian's Sony Porta-Pak videotape reels from when he got a camera setup gifted from Sony and started recording the exploits of his Smile friends and collaborators in 66-67. There are no signs whatsoever that anything survived, best as I ever heard. The Porta-Pak rig was the first consumer-grade video recorder, but with open reels instead of VHS or Beta style cartridges. Apparently Charles Manson had one too, with Dennis involved. But that's rumor.







Birth of a new forum. With lots of rows and arguing about who's the best lip-reader here.

VDP got one at about the same time, apparently interviewing his friends. Including Brian.. wouldn't that be something to see!
Well even though it's silent footage, they should be able to release it with no problem, like they did the BB in London dvd; not a sound heard on there

No way in hell anything like that will come out officially. Probably.

The other really interesting missing video is Brian's Sony Porta-Pak videotape reels from when he got a camera setup gifted from Sony and started recording the exploits of his Smile friends and collaborators in 66-67. There are no signs whatsoever that anything survived, best as I ever heard. The Porta-Pak rig was the first consumer-grade video recorder, but with open reels instead of VHS or Beta style cartridges. Apparently Charles Manson had one too, with Dennis involved. But that's rumor.
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Birth of a new forum. With lots of rows and arguing about who's the best lip-reader here.




Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: The Heartical Don on January 04, 2011, 07:27:56 AM
Sorry for the mixup. I can't seem to type properly, the window is 'dropping' all of the time, so I can't see what I'm actually doing.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Mike's Beard on January 04, 2011, 10:11:41 AM
...add to that the missing Inside Pop takes...  :3d

Indeed - that is the Holy Grail of footage, even though some suggest the audio track is long gone and it's basically silent footage at this point. Maybe someone can update that since the info is from several years ago.

No way in hell anything like that will come out officially. Probably.

The other really interesting missing video is Brian's Sony Porta-Pak videotape reels from when he got a camera setup gifted from Sony and started recording the exploits of his Smile friends and collaborators in 66-67. There are no signs whatsoever that anything survived, best as I ever heard. The Porta-Pak rig was the first consumer-grade video recorder, but with open reels instead of VHS or Beta style cartridges. Apparently Charles Manson had one too, with Dennis involved. But that's rumor.

Speaking of which, does anyone else find it a little suspect that not (to my knowledge) one photo of Manson and Dennis together has ever seen the light of day? I wonder if Gregg Jakobsen has one or two stashed away somewhere?


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: guitarfool2002 on January 04, 2011, 11:57:22 AM
...add to that the missing Inside Pop takes...  :3d

Indeed - that is the Holy Grail of footage, even though some suggest the audio track is long gone and it's basically silent footage at this point. Maybe someone can update that since the info is from several years ago.

No way in hell anything like that will come out officially. Probably.

The other really interesting missing video is Brian's Sony Porta-Pak videotape reels from when he got a camera setup gifted from Sony and started recording the exploits of his Smile friends and collaborators in 66-67. There are no signs whatsoever that anything survived, best as I ever heard. The Porta-Pak rig was the first consumer-grade video recorder, but with open reels instead of VHS or Beta style cartridges. Apparently Charles Manson had one too, with Dennis involved. But that's rumor.

Speaking of which, does anyone else find it a little suspect that not (to my knowledge) one photo of Manson and Dennis together has ever seen the light of day? I wonder if Gregg Jakobsen has one or two stashed away somewhere?

It's probably on the same level as the reasons why the tapes Manson recorded at the Beach Boys studio are locked away as tightly as possible, never even discussed, really. I think in the wake of the Manson mess, a lot of powerful people were afraid their names would show up with even a threadbare association to Manson and attempts were probably made to cover it up as much as possible.

There is a letter from Manson himself where he names some very famous names and also implicates other wealthy/famous owners of those Sony Porta-Pak video rigs in an international trading ring for material that would not only have been embarrassing but also illegal if it ever got out. Manson exaggerated a lot too, so believe what you wish aka "Hollywood Babylon", but he did get his names out there.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: mikeyj on January 04, 2011, 12:13:49 PM
Sorry for the mixup. I can't seem to type properly, the window is 'dropping' all of the time, so I can't see what I'm actually doing.

I see that a few people have been having that problem - could you perhaps just type it in a text document and then cut & paste it back into the website text box?


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: ukulelejesus on January 04, 2011, 12:17:38 PM
The Ding Dang Sessions


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Mahalo on January 04, 2011, 12:25:44 PM
The Ding Dang Sessions

and the Funky Pretty sessions


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Mike's Beard on January 04, 2011, 01:25:14 PM
...add to that the missing Inside Pop takes...  :3d

Indeed - that is the Holy Grail of footage, even though some suggest the audio track is long gone and it's basically silent footage at this point. Maybe someone can update that since the info is from several years ago.

No way in hell anything like that will come out officially. Probably.

The other really interesting missing video is Brian's Sony Porta-Pak videotape reels from when he got a camera setup gifted from Sony and started recording the exploits of his Smile friends and collaborators in 66-67. There are no signs whatsoever that anything survived, best as I ever heard. The Porta-Pak rig was the first consumer-grade video recorder, but with open reels instead of VHS or Beta style cartridges. Apparently Charles Manson had one too, with Dennis involved. But that's rumor.

Speaking of which, does anyone else find it a little suspect that not (to my knowledge) one photo of Manson and Dennis together has ever seen the light of day? I wonder if Gregg Jakobsen has one or two stashed away somewhere?

It's probably on the same level as the reasons why the tapes Manson recorded at the Beach Boys studio are locked away as tightly as possible, never even discussed, really. I think in the wake of the Manson mess, a lot of powerful people were afraid their names would show up with even a threadbare association to Manson and attempts were probably made to cover it up as much as possible.

There is a letter from Manson himself where he names some very famous names and also implicates other wealthy/famous owners of those Sony Porta-Pak video rigs in an international trading ring for material that would not only have been embarrassing but also illegal if it ever got out. Manson exaggerated a lot too, so believe what you wish aka "Hollywood Babylon", but he did get his names out there.

It's known Charlie did the nasty with Cary Grant. Also a famous Hollywood couple used to pay him to do very dirty things to them both on camera - my money is on Jane Fonda and Roger Valdin being the couple in question.
Mike once claimed that the BB's had hours of the Family's orgies on tape. That moaning and groaning at the end of "All I want to Do" is apparently from one of them! If I worked at Capital I'd secretly sneak some of it onto the next "Hits" comp as a hidden bonus track.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on January 04, 2011, 01:30:28 PM
...add to that the missing Inside Pop takes...  :3d

Indeed - that is the Holy Grail of footage, even though some suggest the audio track is long gone and it's basically silent footage at this point. Maybe someone can update that since the info is from several years ago.

No way in hell anything like that will come out officially. Probably.

The other really interesting missing video is Brian's Sony Porta-Pak videotape reels from when he got a camera setup gifted from Sony and started recording the exploits of his Smile friends and collaborators in 66-67. There are no signs whatsoever that anything survived, best as I ever heard. The Porta-Pak rig was the first consumer-grade video recorder, but with open reels instead of VHS or Beta style cartridges. Apparently Charles Manson had one too, with Dennis involved. But that's rumor.

Speaking of which, does anyone else find it a little suspect that not (to my knowledge) one photo of Manson and Dennis together has ever seen the light of day? I wonder if Gregg Jakobsen has one or two stashed away somewhere?

It's probably on the same level as the reasons why the tapes Manson recorded at the Beach Boys studio are locked away as tightly as possible, never even discussed, really. I think in the wake of the Manson mess, a lot of powerful people were afraid their names would show up with even a threadbare association to Manson and attempts were probably made to cover it up as much as possible.

There is a letter from Manson himself where he names some very famous names and also implicates other wealthy/famous owners of those Sony Porta-Pak video rigs in an international trading ring for material that would not only have been embarrassing but also illegal if it ever got out. Manson exaggerated a lot too, so believe what you wish aka "Hollywood Babylon", but he did get his names out there.

It's known Charlie did the nasty with Cary Grant. Also a famous Hollywood couple used to pay him to do very dirty things to them both on camera - my money is on Jane Fonda and Roger Valdin being the couple in question.
Mike once claimed that the BB's had hours of the Family's orgies on tape. That moaning and groaning at the end of "All I want to Do" is apparently from one of them! If I worked at Capital I'd secretly sneak some of it onto the next "Hits" comp as a hidden bonus track.

Whoever told you that is pulling your chain big time - the story of Dennis recording his 'tag' to "All I Want To Do" in Capitol Tower studios has been well documented since 1985, when I interviewed Steve Desper, who engineered that, um, 'session'.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Mike's Beard on January 04, 2011, 01:44:52 PM
The part about the orgies is a quote from a book called "Coming Down Fast". The author states that Mike gave an interview in 1970-71 where he claimed "we have hours of them on tape sucking, f**king'', barking and chanting". Without the book at hand, that is pretty much word for word what it said.

On a lighter note it makes you wonder just how Desper engineered the tag. "Um Dennis can you lift your ass a bit more I need to get this mike in a little closer!"


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: punkinhead on January 04, 2011, 01:55:29 PM
...add to that the missing Inside Pop takes...  :3d

Indeed - that is the Holy Grail of footage, even though some suggest the audio track is long gone and it's basically silent footage at this point. Maybe someone can update that since the info is from several years ago.

No way in hell anything like that will come out officially. Probably.

The other really interesting missing video is Brian's Sony Porta-Pak videotape reels from when he got a camera setup gifted from Sony and started recording the exploits of his Smile friends and collaborators in 66-67. There are no signs whatsoever that anything survived, best as I ever heard. The Porta-Pak rig was the first consumer-grade video recorder, but with open reels instead of VHS or Beta style cartridges. Apparently Charles Manson had one too, with Dennis involved. But that's rumor.







Birth of a new forum. With lots of rows and arguing about who's the best lip-reader here.

VDP got one at about the same time, apparently interviewing his friends. Including Brian.. wouldn't that be something to see!
Well even though it's silent footage, they should be able to release it with no problem, like they did the BB in London dvd; not a sound heard on there

No way in hell anything like that will come out officially. Probably.

The other really interesting missing video is Brian's Sony Porta-Pak videotape reels from when he got a camera setup gifted from Sony and started recording the exploits of his Smile friends and collaborators in 66-67. There are no signs whatsoever that anything survived, best as I ever heard. The Porta-Pak rig was the first consumer-grade video recorder, but with open reels instead of VHS or Beta style cartridges. Apparently Charles Manson had one too, with Dennis involved. But that's rumor.

Birth of a new forum. With lots of rows and arguing about who's the best lip-reader here.


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is there any chance some of the smile footage is on some of the documentaries?
Like the footage on the A&E BW Bio where they describe the smile era as a Mad Hadder's tea Party and it shows Brian running/jumping off the diving board and Brian in multi-colored/psychedelic yelling on a mic (with longer hair).

Also that footage of Van Dyke from EH, it might be when he was older, he has a mustache but he's holding up notebook paper that says Heroes and Villains and Surf's Up...that's all I can remember, havent seen it in a while.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on January 04, 2011, 02:14:26 PM
The part about the orgies is a quote from a book called "Coming Down Fast". The author states that Mike gave an interview in 1970-71 where he claimed "we have hours of them on tape sucking, f**king'', barking and chanting". Without the book at hand, that is pretty much word for word what it said.

On a lighter note it makes you wonder just how Desper engineered the tag. "Um Dennis can you lift your ass a bit more I need to get this mike in a little closer!"

The interview - not by credited to Mike, rather "an anonymous Beach Boy" - was to Tom Nolan for the 1971 Rolling Stone 2-parter.

Steve told me he basically engineered that session (November 12th 1968, btw) "with my head down on the board": Dennis and his companion - a hooker he pulled off of Hollywood & Vine just down from the Tower - were screened from the booth by drum risers set up on end, and DW wore headphones so's he could match the rhythm of the track. After he was done, SWD told me, he stuck his head over the screen and yelled "play it back"... listened to it intently over the studio monitors... then announced "I can do better - take two !" - and that's why, if you listen carefully with cans, you'll hear a different take in each ear.  ;D  Apparently there's a safety copy of the 8-track in the Capitol archives, and yes, I suggested it as a hidden track on a rarities compilation some years back. When the person in question had stopped falling down laughing, they told me "I seriously doubt it". Shame.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Fall Breaks on January 04, 2011, 02:42:44 PM
Yes, really a shame. Imagine the publicity it would have given the band. It would've opened more people up to the less clean cut side of the band (and the compilation would probably have sold something like fifty percent more with that tagged on, when word had gotten out).


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: runnersdialzero on January 04, 2011, 05:28:10 PM
Thread title is extremely misleading :(

I'd kill for some proper re-releases of all albums. No harsh limiting, no noise reduction, both mono/stereo when possible or when both exist, extensive liner notes, and bonus tracks. I've only properly bought a few Beach Boys albums because of all the various versions, problems etc. that are present on the versions that exist now because I'm holding out for something better.

I think you're holding out for something that may very well never happen, however desirable.

Ballz :(

30-frickin-dollar Japanese editions it is. imo.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: hypehat on January 05, 2011, 03:09:12 AM
If there is a reissue program, they simply have to have everything pre-Pet Sounds in mono - I can't listen to the early stuff because of the frickin' wide stereo. Brian's productions aren't big enough to support such treatment until All Summer Long....


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: The Heartical Don on January 05, 2011, 07:08:57 AM
Sorry for the mixup. I can't seem to type properly, the window is 'dropping' all of the time, so I can't see what I'm actually doing.

I see that a few people have been having that problem - could you perhaps just type it in a text document and then cut & paste it back into the website text box?

Thanks Mikey -

I tried another PC, and the problem is gone. But thanks for the hint anyway.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Joshilyn Hoisington on January 05, 2011, 06:33:58 PM
Someone here will remember but didn't a poster from this site get a gig to go into Capitols vaults to catalogue everything 5 years or so ago? What ever came of that?

I believe that poster was aeijtzsche, and nothing has come of it as far as I know.

The Beach Boys/Capital will not receive another dime from me until they release a SMiLE box set.  If and when that glorious day comes, I'll buy one for myself and every friend and family member who will listen.  I'm not interested in anything else they may have in the vaults.  I think everything The Beach Boys did after Friends (with the exception of Love You and maybe half of Sunflower) is worthless, so to say I'm not interested in songs that were cut from those records would be an understatement.  I've also bought all their greatest hits about 20 times over, and won't be doing so again, even for new stereo mixes.

That was indeed me, though all I did was help out a little bit.  I had hoped to spearhead a series of incredible vault-purging releases, but alas, I'm not much of a spearhead.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Pretty Funky on January 05, 2011, 06:46:48 PM

aeijtzsche wrote

..That was indeed me, though all I did was help out a little bit.  I had hoped to spearhead a series of incredible vault-purging releases, but alas, I'm not much of a spearhead.
    
 
What a shame. Can you go into any detail of what you found, was anything dumped or is it still there, who pulls the strings?

We also use 'the vaults'. Is that the case or is it just a broom cupboard? :-D


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: theCOD on January 06, 2011, 02:04:01 AM
So... you've heard everything else that's in the vaults to form this opinion, I take it ?

Your loss.

No, I'm just not interested in songs that weren't good enough for KTSA, or any other mediocre album they released after Brian went away.  I guess I'll just have to live with missing out on a listenable song or two.  If they had written another 'God Only Knows' or 'Heroes and Villains' I seriously doubt it'd just be chillin' in the vaults.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on January 06, 2011, 02:24:13 AM
Not exactly what you originally said, and not what I was responding to.  To refresh you memory...

I think everything The Beach Boys did after Friends (with the exception of Love You and maybe half of Sunflower) is worthless, so to say I'm not interested in songs that were cut from those records would be an understatement.

Your opinion, of course, but also your loss.

If they had written another 'God Only Knows' or 'Heroes and Villains' I seriously doubt it'd just be chillin' in the vaults.

Allow me to throw a title at you: "(Wouldn't It Be Nice To) Live Again"... and here's a few more "worthless" songs to consider -

I'm Going Your Way (= California Slide)
Won't You Tell Me
I've Got A Friend
California Feelin' (1974 demo)
Michael Rowed The Boat Ashore
You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'

Not, I freely grant, a huge number, but the first title is acknowledged by those who've heard it to be magnificent.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Paulos on January 06, 2011, 09:26:25 AM
I would add Carry Me Home to that list of magnificent unreleased songs.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Mike's Beard on January 06, 2011, 09:55:13 AM
So... you've heard everything else that's in the vaults to form this opinion, I take it ?

Your loss.

No, I'm just not interested in songs that weren't good enough for KTSA, or any other mediocre album they released after Brian went away.  I guess I'll just have to live with missing out on a listenable song or two.  If they had written another 'God Only Knows' or 'Heroes and Villains' I seriously doubt it'd just be chillin' in the vaults.

In a logical word that statement would be true, but you are making it in reference to the band that still hasn't officially released a good chunk of what many fans consider their greatest achievement "Smile".


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: letsmakeit31 on January 06, 2011, 12:42:46 PM
Please put at the very least in any 50th Beach Boys release
1)Wouldn't it be nice to live again
2)Smile sessions and full stereo tracks
3)Dennis Wilson early 70's unreleased songs
4)Surf's up Vocals
5)Brian Wilson demos 1962-78.
Too much to ask lol?? :o ;D


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Joshilyn Hoisington on January 06, 2011, 01:35:51 PM

aeijtzsche wrote

..That was indeed me, though all I did was help out a little bit.  I had hoped to spearhead a series of incredible vault-purging releases, but alas, I'm not much of a spearhead.
    
 
What a shame. Can you go into any detail of what you found, was anything dumped or is it still there, who pulls the strings?

We also use 'the vaults'. Is that the case or is it just a broom cupboard? :-D


Well, I just came in in the middle of an ongoing process--a lot of organization had already been done and I did very little of that myself.  Suffice it to say, there's a lot there, as you'd expect.  It is a vault, but it's pretty utilitarian.  Lots of old boxes on a series of shelves/stacks.  Picture the warehouse in Indiana Jones, only with much more important stuff in it.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: bgas on January 06, 2011, 02:17:00 PM

aeijtzsche wrote

..That was indeed me, though all I did was help out a little bit.  I had hoped to spearhead a series of incredible vault-purging releases, but alas, I'm not much of a spearhead.
    
 
What a shame. Can you go into any detail of what you found, was anything dumped or is it still there, who pulls the strings?

We also use 'the vaults'. Is that the case or is it just a broom cupboard? :-D


Well, I just came in in the middle of an ongoing process--a lot of organization had already been done and I did very little of that myself.  Suffice it to say, there's a lot there, as you'd expect.  It is a vault, but it's pretty utilitarian.  Lots of old boxes on a series of shelves/stacks.  Picture the warehouse in Indiana Jones, only with much more important stuff in it.


Whoa, wait! 
More important than a mysterious magnetic Crystal skull?


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: lance on January 06, 2011, 09:41:23 PM
I would add Carry Me Home to that list of magnificent unreleased songs.
I would add a lot more: Child is Father of the Man, Look, Holidays, BWPS-style edits of Old Master Painter/Sunshine and Great Shape/I Wanna Be Around/Friday Night,  mona Kuai, Sound of Free, and the yet-unreleased tracks from Adult Child, Looking Down the Coast, original Santa Ana Winds, Stevie. To me all of those are great tracks that I would PAY BIG BUCKS to hear in a quality non-bootleg release. I'm sure there are more great songs than that. Those are just the ones I've already heard.  >:D


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Jim V. on January 06, 2011, 10:34:10 PM
So nobody really feels confident that we get anything decent this year? I honestly am hoping against hope that we at least get a few unreleased tracks tossed our way. I mean, this is the 50th anniversary of the biggest band to ever come from America. Surely we could expect a few treats for us hardcore fans. I mean, look at what the Stones have done with Exile and what the Boss has done with Dark on the Edge of Town. I'm sure BRI has been paying attention.

I don't expect a boxset, but I find it possible that we get another Endless Harmony-type package. I said something like this last year, but I'll repeat myself. Give us a nice smattering of great unreleased songs, maybe tuck in a few hits to please Mike Love, and hey, even throw in maybe 2 new Wilson penned cuts. Write one with Dr. Love, and another with maybe Van Dyke or Scotty Bennett. Whaddya say BRI? Ya listening? Plus, I could die a happy boy if I finally got to hear the 1974 demo of "California Feelin'". I also wish for a completed 1967 version of "Surf's Up", but unlike Domenic Priore, I don't believe such a thing exists, so I'm just fine with the 1971 version. Anyways here's a few of my wishes (some I've already heard, and some I'm just guessing are good) on this proposed album:

  • "California Feelin'" 1974 demo: classic-era Brian vocal; great performance (per AGD); good song
  • "(Wouldn't It Be Nice) To Live Again": great Dennis song (per AGD)
  • "In The Back of My Mind" 1975 version: historically interesting (Brian in '75); great song; likely an interesting performance
  • "You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling": great performance; sh ows off Brian's studio prowess; Brian covers influences
  • "I'll Bet He's Nice" demo: great performance; shows off great 70's writing; showcases how great Brian's songwriting still was
  • "Boys and Girls": early '80s track; sounds promising; maybe use "Sweetie" instead?
  • "Baby I Need Your Lovin'/Gimme Some Lovin'": very intriguing early '70's experiment; however, how finished is it?
  • "Where Is She?": apparently a lovely performance by Brian, although very rough? (per AGD, i think)

I think that is a pretty reasonable list. From what I know, all the recordings are of complete songs, and could probably be released to the public (although maybe they could remove Dr. Love's cursing from the demo of "I'll Bet He's Nice", since he wants to project his family friendly ways. I didn't choose stuff like "Burlesque" cuz I'm assuming that is STILL not how BRI wants to portray The Beach Boys, and I also didn't include things like "Lucy Jones" because from what AGD has said, sure, it's probably interesting historically speaking (because of the voice change and all), but as a song, he makes it sound as if its no great shakes. And I think "California Feelin'" from '74 and "In The Back of My Mind" from '75 would probably please that crowd anyways. Anyways, hope this wasn't a bore.

Anyways, lets not give up hope guys and gals!


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on January 07, 2011, 01:42:16 AM
So nobody really feels confident that we get anything decent this year?

I wouldn't say I'm "confident", but given the enormity of the anniversary and the undeniable fact that BRI have been forcing folk to pull a shitload of unreleased stuff from YouTube, I'm cautiously optimistic.

Also, concerning the 50th tag... it really is just that: there's still a Beach Boys out there playing, with one and three-quarters original members. No matter what anyone says, next year is NOT the Beatles 50th anniversary: The Beatles ceased to exist 40 years ago. It's not even the 50th anniversary of their formation, rather it's the 50th Anniversary of their first release as The Beatles.  Which, of course, won't dampen the hoopla one little bit. Just sayin'. ;D

"(Wouldn't It Be Nice) To Live Again": great Dennis song (per AGD)

Not just me - everyone who's heard it. Go listen to Adam Marsland's Chaos Band's wonderful, wonderful cover (and live, yet !). Then double it.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Jim V. on January 07, 2011, 07:51:25 AM
So nobody really feels confident that we get anything decent this year?

I wouldn't say I'm "confident", but given the enormity of the anniversary and the undeniable fact that BRI have been forcing folk to pull a shitload of unreleased stuff from YouTube, I'm cautiously optimistic.

Also, concerning the 50th tag... it really is just that: there's still a Beach Boys out there playing, with one and three-quarters original members. No matter what anyone says, next year is NOT the Beatles 50th anniversary: The Beatles ceased to exist 40 years ago. It's not even the 50th anniversary of their formation, rather it's the 50th Anniversary of their first release as The Beatles.  Which, of course, won't dampen the hoopla one little bit. Just sayin'. ;D

"(Wouldn't It Be Nice) To Live Again": great Dennis song (per AGD)

Not just me - everyone who's heard it. Go listen to Adam Marsland's Chaos Band's wonderful, wonderful cover (and live, yet !). Then double it.


Well that makes me feel better that you are cautiously optimistic.

However I was also thinking of a few things I DON'T want this year. First of all, lets leave Pet Sounds alone. Amazingly album, possibly the best ever, but how about we leave it as is, at least for, say, five more years. We don't need "Trombone Dixie" remixed by Dr. Dre, or whatever scheme they wanna pull this time. Leave the album alone for now.

Also, if they are gonna do another Stars & Stripes type deal where, they re-work oldies with other artists, how about they go with artists like Panda Bear, Atlas Sound, Caribou, Sufjan Stevens, etc (all of whom I'm pretty sure are directly influenced by Brian)......and not Snoop Dogg and Katy Perry, or *gulp* that horrid mainstream country Brucie seems to love these days.

I also think if they are gonna reissue old material AGAIN in another compilation, they should try to highlight more of their work from Sunflower thru Love You, as I really think the public would dig it, if actually given some attention. And maybe use a song like "This Whole World" to promote the reunion. Something like that, a great song that hasn't gotten enough attention. Maybe have them perform it live too if they do a concert.

Just some ideas.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: guitarfool2002 on January 07, 2011, 09:04:07 AM
I see a major problem with the fact the public image is so deeply established for the name "Beach Boys" that it may be impossible to elevate the music of the 70's beyond the oldies image. It may remain a niche market for the more devoted fans who can pass it on to their friends and their kids and let those new ears decide the quality of the music. But expecting the public at large to listen to "Carl And The Passions" or "Love You" when the band has been established and marketed a certain way for so long is close to impossible at this point.

It was like the ultimate failure of the McDonalds fast-food name to try updating their brand identity to include "healthy" menu choices, when the main reason most customers visited McDonalds was to eat the unhealthy food they enjoyed for years! The Big Mac and fries are still king, the salads and other green items are the niche.

The saying..."you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink"? It fits.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Myk Luhv on January 07, 2011, 10:17:47 AM
I actually wouldn't mind seeing a remix project in the same vein as The New Sound Redesigned (2005) [allmusic review (http://www.allmusic.com/album/the-now-sound-redesigned-r790603/review)]. It'd be neat to see what some other acts could come up with in sampling or deconstructing the Beach Boys' music -- especially their 1970s stuff, I think. (Though I don't know if they could get as hip groups as Stereolab or Madlib or Kid Koala...)


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Jim V. on January 07, 2011, 10:51:45 AM
I see a major problem with the fact the public image is so deeply established for the name "Beach Boys" that it may be impossible to elevate the music of the 70's beyond the oldies image. It may remain a niche market for the more devoted fans who can pass it on to their friends and their kids and let those new ears decide the quality of the music. But expecting the public at large to listen to "Carl And The Passions" or "Love You" when the band has been established and marketed a certain way for so long is close to impossible at this point.

It was like the ultimate failure of the McDonalds fast-food name to try updating their brand identity to include "healthy" menu choices, when the main reason most customers visited McDonalds was to eat the unhealthy food they enjoyed for years! The Big Mac and fries are still king, the salads and other green items are the niche.

The saying..."you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink"? It fits.

I agree that changing the cultural identity of The Beach Boys can't change, but honestly, even a lot of their more "mature" work still has that "Beach Boys" feel. I'm sure the mainstream public these days could accept "Good Timin'", "This Whole World", "Til I Die", or "Heroes and Villains". And this is coming from a person who doesn't think much of the "mainstream". I just hope the group doesn't forget that side of their work this year.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: letsmakeit31 on January 07, 2011, 12:55:06 PM
So nobody really feels confident that we get anything decent this year?

I wouldn't say I'm "confident", but given the enormity of the anniversary and the undeniable fact that BRI have been forcing folk to pull a shitload of unreleased stuff from YouTube, I'm cautiously optimistic.

Also, concerning the 50th tag... it really is just that: there's still a Beach Boys out there playing, with one and three-quarters original members. No matter what anyone says, next year is NOT the Beatles 50th anniversary: The Beatles ceased to exist 40 years ago. It's not even the 50th anniversary of their formation, rather it's the 50th Anniversary of their first release as The Beatles.  Which, of course, won't dampen the hoopla one little bit. Just sayin'. ;D

"(Wouldn't It Be Nice) To Live Again": great Dennis song (per AGD)

Not just me - everyone who's heard it. Go listen to Adam Marsland's Chaos Band's wonderful, wonderful cover (and live, yet !). Then double it.

Sounds great to me and to think this could be the only way that we may hear this great song or maybe we may get to hear it this year??


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Myk Luhv on January 07, 2011, 01:18:23 PM
I agree that changing the cultural identity of The Beach Boys can't change, but honestly, even a lot of their more "mature" work still has that "Beach Boys" feel. I'm sure the mainstream public these days could accept "Good Timin'", "This Whole World", "Til I Die", or "Heroes and Villains". And this is coming from a person who doesn't think much of the "mainstream". I just hope the group doesn't forget that side of their work this year.

I reckon it has "that Beach Boys feel" because, well, it's still them doing the vocals and... I don't think it's too far of a stretch to suggest they're possibly more renowned for that than their music per se. The music itself, though, had changed significantly not just three or four different times in the 1960s but probably most drastically in the 1970s. They sounded more like a band from 1970 onward if not from 1968 and beyond. That, combined with the fact that they began writing together and in various combinations of Beach Boys more, it certain gives the music a different sound even if the vocals are still probably recognisably "Beach Boys".


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: donald on January 07, 2011, 07:28:36 PM
I think I've said this before.  The Byrds released two boxes and the second was better.  I would like the BBs to do the same.    And we all pretty much agree on at least a dozen or more songs that could be included.    Yeah.  A nice big juicy beautiful box set of 7 or 8 discs covering the essentials and the so far boot only releases of a lot of great music.

Is that too much to ask??????!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Ron on January 07, 2011, 11:28:12 PM
I don't have an exhaustive knowledge of the unreleased material, I haven't heard much of it at all... and I know the SOT stuff booted many of the capitol vaults... but surely there's some that were never copied.. and surely Brian personally must have dozens and dozens of songs.  I'll bet he's got stuff from back then that was recorded and never turned over to capitol.  Is that wishful thinking?


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on January 07, 2011, 11:54:17 PM
Nope, and I have a feeling that's where most of the unbooted material lies...that is, if Brian didn't chunk them like a deuce years ago.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: XY on January 08, 2011, 01:24:15 AM
Another idea: 3 Box sets with all albums + singles + bonus tracks

1. The 60's - Twofers updated with more bonus tracks + Lost & Found
2. The 70's - Twofers with bonus tracks added
3. The 80's/90's - + New Twofers for the last albums


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: The Shift on January 08, 2011, 01:49:17 AM
surely you jest, sire? Three boxes based on released stuff most of us have already? I have two sets of Capitol twofers,  and I'm sure the label is pretty aware they'll struggle  to market them widely a third time around.   

The 50th anniversary is the ideal opportunity for NEW old material to get the treatment, not for rehashing - though one suspects we'll have to allow for the obligatory hits comp.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: XY on January 08, 2011, 02:01:15 AM
These CD's would contain new unreleased stuff. The 70's towfers don't have bonus tracks, so the best of ADULT/CHILD for LOVE YOU, "California Feelin'" for LA, "I'm Going Your Way" for SUNFLOWER, "Wouldn't It Be Nice To Live Again" for SURF's UP,  etc... And of course, a special CD with all the new outtakes available for fans through the net.
I highly doubt a new CD with old unreleased material would sell - HAWTHORNE CA didn't.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: The Shift on January 08, 2011, 03:00:38 AM
I highly doubt a new CD with old unreleased material would sell - HAWTHORNE CA didn't.

We're gonna have to define the difference between 'new' and 'old' 'unreleased material'!

Having twofer bonus tracks on an individual cd for fans would virtually screw the fresh market for the twofers. Appreciate the thought, as I'm not sure I need those albums yet again, but I suspect Capitol couldn't afford to think so generously..


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: shelter on January 08, 2011, 04:45:00 AM
If I'd be in charge of these things, this is what would get released this year:

- Two versions of 'Smile': a one disc edition with the best/most complete version available of each song (maybe with some new overdubs where necessary), and a box set version comparable to 'Pet Sounds Sessions' (which obviously includes the one disc version).

- A 4CD + DVD "treasure box":
CD 1: unreleased songs
CD 2: demo's, alternate takes, a capella mixes, backing tracks, etc.
CD 3: selected live recordings 1962-2010, with a strong focus on unusual versions and songs that were rarely performed live
CD 4: a full live show
DVD: TV appearances and live clips (full songs only)

- No new hits compilation, but instead an "Essential Beach Boys Starters Kit" with 'Sounds of Summer', 'The Warmth of the Sun' and 'Pet Sounds' packaged together for a nice price.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: rab2591 on January 08, 2011, 06:35:48 AM
If I'd be in charge of these things, this is what would get released this year:

- Two versions of 'Smile': a one disc edition with the best/most complete version available of each song (maybe with some new overdubs where necessary), and a box set version comparable to 'Pet Sounds Sessions' (which obviously includes the one disc version).

- A 4CD + DVD "treasure box":
CD 1: unreleased songs
CD 2: demo's, alternate takes, a capella mixes, backing tracks, etc.
CD 3: selected live recordings 1962-2010, with a strong focus on unusual versions and songs that were rarely performed live
CD 4: a full live show
DVD: TV appearances and live clips (full songs only)

- No new hits compilation, but instead an "Essential Beach Boys Starters Kit" with 'Sounds of Summer', 'The Warmth of the Sun' and 'Pet Sounds' packaged together for a nice price.

heck of a good idea.

I wonder what the publicity would be like if The Beach Boys decided to release a SMiLE set.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: guitarfool2002 on January 08, 2011, 11:54:06 AM

I wonder what the publicity would be like if The Beach Boys decided to release a SMiLE set.

They know exactly what the level of publicity would be! I remember several reports of the Beach Boys organization at times in the 70's and beyond when their sales were slumping and they were shopping for a new label and/or contract, the term I remember was "dangling the Smile tapes like a carrot" in front of various record labels. They knew what they were holding, and I guess they knew how to negotiate using that ultimate trump card to bargain with.

The 93 box set was a game-changer, but as fans were soon to find out there was more to be found. There was a published report announcing the Pet Sounds box that was also announcing a similar Smile box, around 1995. And another article in 95 or so suggesting Don Was had gotten involved with a Smile archive project of some kind. The problem is as was mentioned earlier in this discussion nobody in the organization, i.e. band members, seem interested at all in releasing that stuff. Brian moved on and released what he wanted to release and won a Grammy and had a successful tour with the album. Mike and Al, what interest would they have in revisiting all of the issues fans have out on them in the past? And they were not there for the majority of the 66-67 studio sessions anyway. Al: "That's not Worms!" :-D

It's pessimistic, sure, but that's not saying I wouldn't want such a Smile set more than anything in the Beach Boys catalog.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: bgas on January 08, 2011, 12:23:09 PM

I wonder what the publicity would be like if The Beach Boys decided to release a SMiLE set.

They know exactly what the level of publicity would be! I remember several reports of the Beach Boys organization at times in the 70's and beyond when their sales were slumping and they were shopping for a new label and/or contract, the term I remember was "dangling the Smile tapes like a carrot" in front of various record labels. They knew what they were holding, and I guess they knew how to negotiate using that ultimate trump card to bargain with.

The 93 box set was a game-changer, but as fans were soon to find out there was more to be found. There was a published report announcing the Pet Sounds box that was also announcing a similar Smile box, around 1995. And another article in 95 or so suggesting Don Was had gotten involved with a Smile archive project of some kind. The problem is as was mentioned earlier in this discussion nobody in the organization, i.e. band members, seem interested at all in releasing that stuff. Brian moved on and released what he wanted to release and won a Grammy and had a successful tour with the album. Mike and Al, what interest would they have in revisiting all of the issues fans have out on them in the past? And they were not there for the majority of the 66-67 studio sessions anyway. Al: "That's not Worms!" :-D

It's pessimistic, sure, but that's not saying I wouldn't want such a Smile set more than anything in the Beach Boys catalog.

Seems to me, as it always seems to be about "How much $$ can we make off this? " the signs would just flash in front of Mike and Al's eyes to where they'd say" It's Brian's cross. This would be really inexpensive to master and release!  Let's get this sucker out so I can start reaping the rewards. " 
Mike and Al COULD over-rule Brian on the release issue, couldn't they? 


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on January 08, 2011, 12:43:19 PM

Mike and Al COULD over-rule Brian on the [Smile] release issue, couldn't they?  

As voting members of BRI, and assuming they got Carl's estate either on their side or agreeing to abstain, yes. But they didn't in 1993, so why now ?


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Peter Reum on January 08, 2011, 07:16:54 PM
I think a Smile Era box would be a revelation to the public at large. I hope, now that Brian has had several well received albums, including Smile, BWRG, and The Lucky Old Sun, that he would allow that the full content of his work from 1966-67 would be made available to show his work from then in its incredible span and diversity. As with The Basement Tapes, this an artist at the extreme of his creativity going wherever his muse took him. I think the music could be supplemented with the skits, tracks, and other work from that era,such as Teeter Totter Love and so forth. The album  set, as a box would be epic. I do not believe that Capitol would release such a wonderful project unless Brian approved the final product.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: bgas on January 08, 2011, 07:27:48 PM
I think a Smile Era box would be a revelation to the public at large. I hope, now that Brian has had several well received albums, including Smile, BWRG, and The Lucky Old Sun, that he would allow that the full content of his work from 1966-67 would be made available to show his work from then in its incredible span and diversity. As with The Basement Tapes, this an artist at the extreme of his creativity going wherever his muse took him. I think the music could be supplemented with the skits, tracks, and other work from that era,such as Teeter Totter Love and so forth. The album  set, as a box would be epic. I do not believe that Capitol would release such a wonderful project unless Brian approved the final product.

Capitol/EMI:  Where do I place my order?


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Mahalo on January 08, 2011, 08:06:02 PM
I think a Smile Era box would be a revelation to the public at large. I hope, now that Brian has had several well received albums, including Smile, BWRG, and The Lucky Old Sun, that he would allow that the full content of his work from 1966-67 would be made available to show his work from then in its incredible span and diversity. As with The Basement Tapes, this an artist at the extreme of his creativity going wherever his muse took him. I think the music could be supplemented with the skits, tracks, and other work from that era,such as Teeter Totter Love and so forth. The album  set, as a box would be epic. I do not believe that Capitol would release such a wonderful project unless Brian approved the final product.

Capitol/EMI:  Where do I place my order?

Can I prepay in advance for 5 copies???


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: sockittome on January 08, 2011, 08:41:06 PM
How many people are on this board?  Well, there's at least one guaranteed purchase for each and every one of us!


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: shelter on January 09, 2011, 03:40:52 AM
How many people are on this board?  Well, there's at least one guaranteed purchase for each and every one of us!

I really believe that 'Smile' could be a hit and not just among the diehard fans. I know for a fact that a lot of people who aren't Beach Boys fans know about the album and are curious about it. An official 'Smile' would be an instant essential pop classic, and with some clever promotion I can see it becoming a small hype. But I think that from a commercial point of view it would be a huge mistake to only release it as an expensive box set.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Mike's Beard on January 09, 2011, 04:09:00 AM
I think part of the problem for Brian and his management team is that in getting behind the hype in promoting a Smile Boxset, they would sort of be admitting that BWPS is inferior to the original 66-67 sessions.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: rab2591 on January 09, 2011, 06:38:11 AM
I think part of the problem for Brian and his management team is that in getting behind the hype in promoting a Smile Boxset, they would sort of be admitting that BWPS is inferior to the original 66-67 sessions.

When Brian gets interviewed for it he could say "Oh, it's a great set, you can hear the history behind BWPS..." "It was all leading up to our release of the album in 2004..."

It's a real fine line, I know, but it can be done with some smart marketing people.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: letsmakeit31 on January 09, 2011, 07:42:12 AM
Well it has been six years since BWPS and so I think that any release of Smile wouldn't hurt BWPS in any way in fact it may even increase sales of BWPS if there's enough press and hype behind any form of release of Smile this year plus it will be 45 years since Smile was first started and 50 years of Beach Boys and yes I think their would be alot of interest with Smile I for one have spread the word and shared a few tracks with friends and family and all agree it's an amazing piece of work


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: the captain on January 09, 2011, 08:21:50 AM
As Van Dyke Parks once said, "now that's a sentence."


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Myk Luhv on January 11, 2011, 11:04:42 AM
I want to hear Brian's original Love You mix that Carl altered to give us what we know as the released album. I can only imagine how sloppy it must be...


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Pretty Funky on January 11, 2011, 01:26:23 PM
If we are putting in requests, I'd be happy with a extended 'In Concert' with the missing tracks listed here...

http://www.pipeline-operaglass.moonfruit.com/#/in-concert/4518172574

Add a wall poster plus a  official Brother T-shirt and I'll toast the 50th for sure! :beer


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: smile-holland on January 11, 2011, 03:27:45 PM
If we are putting in requests, I'd be happy with a extended 'In Concert' with the missing tracks listed here...

http://www.pipeline-operaglass.moonfruit.com/#/in-concert/4518172574

Add a wall poster plus a  official Brother T-shirt and I'll toast the 50th for sure! :beer

... which would mean a complete 3rd LP (and definitely a 2CD set then if included as a bonus), as we know that the songs offered on the first rejected LP were all from other concerts then on the double live album...

And - no - I wouldn't mind seeing this happen either. 

By the way, you do know that the live version of Heroes And Villains from the rejected single album was officially released on the Endless Harmony soundtrack CD?


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Pretty Funky on January 11, 2011, 04:14:21 PM
Yes. It sounds so good that I want the lot!


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Jason on January 11, 2011, 04:24:46 PM
I was to hear Brian's original Love You mix that Carl altered to give us what we know as the released album. I can only imagine how sloppy it must be...

Part of it is out on bootlegs, if I remember correctly. I'm not sure if they're from the Brian mix, but they are not fake alternates, either. The songs are Roller Skating Child, Mona, Good Time, Honkin' Down The Highway, Ding Dang, The Night Was So Young, Let's Put Our Hearts Together, and I Wanna Pick You Up. The differences in the mixes aren't drastic, but they're certainly noticeable. These have been around on cassettes since the late 1970s, along with a slew of unreleased songs from the period.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: The Heartical Don on January 12, 2011, 12:52:08 AM
As Van Dyke Parks once said, "now that's a sentence."

Indeed. It's a punishing task to read it.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Myk Luhv on January 12, 2011, 06:44:20 AM
I [want] to hear Brian's original Love You mix that Carl altered to give us what we know as the released album. I can only imagine how sloppy it must be...

Part of it is out on bootlegs, if I remember correctly. I'm not sure if they're from the Brian mix, but they are not fake alternates, either. The songs are Roller Skating Child, Mona, Good Time, Honkin' Down The Highway, Ding Dang, The Night Was So Young, Let's Put Our Hearts Together, and I Wanna Pick You Up. The differences in the mixes aren't drastic, but they're certainly noticeable. These have been around on cassettes since the late 1970s, along with a slew of unreleased songs from the period.

Ah, the pitfalls of not being committed to the bootlegger scene! I've only ever come across the usual SOT volumes and Get The Boot and such stuff. I'll have to keep a look-out for this here one...


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: letsmakeit31 on January 12, 2011, 12:12:59 PM
As Van Dyke Parks once said, "now that's a sentence."
I know and I only got an E in English, and it shows too lol ;D


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on January 13, 2011, 02:40:34 PM
An E?! Where are you from? I know A, B, C, D, and F. :lol


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Runaways on January 18, 2011, 03:26:04 PM
can this sh go down already. COME ON


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: letsmakeit31 on January 18, 2011, 03:34:54 PM
An E?! Where are you from? I know A, B, C, D, and F. :lol
Yep the UK and GCSE's was the exams, and an E is a pass of sorts but it doesn't get you anywhere lol ;D


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: letsmakeit31 on January 18, 2011, 03:52:59 PM
For the stack of tracks I would include Vegtable from Smile (Instrumental) Bootleg, Friends, This Whole World, Solar System, Guess Im Dumb?? (for the Pet Sound alike), Funky Pretty. Any more to add?


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: letsmakeit31 on January 18, 2011, 04:02:50 PM
Vocals only tracks I would include Till I Die (esp the end part), Smily Smile Version of Wonderful (Strange but somehow works to me at least) Breakaway (Instrumental Insert) just the vocals please from the Unsurpassed Masters 20, Good Time (I do like Brian's vocals on this one), Long Promised Road??, Be Here In The Morning. Add some more to this please. :)


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on January 18, 2011, 08:44:46 PM
1974 California Feeling to me is the Holy Grail of recordings I've never heard, even more than Wouldn't it be Nice to Live again (although I want that too :lol  ). The more 1974 stuff, the better.

Other unreleased material of high quality...Carry me Home, California Slide, Lookin' Down the Coast, Everybody Wants to live Just Once, You've Lost That Loving Feelin'....love to see those on there as well.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Alex on January 18, 2011, 10:39:40 PM
An E?! Where are you from? I know A, B, C, D, and F. :lol

SUNY Plattsburgh in upstate New York uses E instead of F for failing.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on January 18, 2011, 11:12:40 PM
Really? Cool...learn something new every day*



*you know, cause's we were talking about  school, and...
:lol


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: punkinhead on January 19, 2011, 03:21:52 AM
something that I would hope would appear in a release this year (if rarities are released) would be proposed album artwork/back of the LPs/liner notes, IF they exist, not what appears on bootlegs.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Rocker on January 19, 2011, 07:08:14 AM
something that I would hope would appear in a release this year (if rarities are released) would be proposed album artwork/back of the LPs/liner notes, IF they exist, not what appears on bootlegs.


I think those kind of stuff would be a good section on beachboyscentral.com. In fact I think it would be nice for that one to finally go online for the anniversary


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Mahalo on January 22, 2011, 03:40:30 PM
The version of Summer Means New Love with the backing vox...


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: hypehat on January 22, 2011, 05:53:11 PM
I don't believe I've heard that one....


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Mahalo on January 23, 2011, 05:31:18 AM
There's a segment of it on American Band.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: SloopJohnB on January 23, 2011, 02:29:38 PM
There's a segment of it on American Band.

...A segment that was recorded -not by the 'Boys- just for that documentary, IIRC.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: letsmakeit31 on January 23, 2011, 03:55:39 PM
which sessions should be on an box set then? For me their is still bits of Good Vibrations that are amazing, Tag to Cabin Essence to name but two any more??


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: rab2591 on January 23, 2011, 04:15:54 PM
which sessions should be on an box set then? For me their is still bits of Good Vibrations that are amazing, Tag to Cabin Essence to name but two any more??

I guess it depends on what you mean by 'sessions', but I think Good Vibrations has had far too much time in the spotlight as far as released session highlights go. There are the session takes from the GV boxset, session takes from the Pet Sounds Sessions boxset, session takes from the 40th anniversary Good Vibrations album, session takes from the Smiley Smile bonus tracks.

It is a fantastic song but I think it's time to get the Today!, Summer Days, and All Summer Long session highlights in a boxset!


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: letsmakeit31 on January 23, 2011, 04:23:43 PM
which sessions should be on an box set then? For me their is still bits of Good Vibrations that are amazing, Tag to Cabin Essence to name but two any more??

I guess it depends on what you mean by 'sessions', but I think Good Vibrations has had far too much time in the spotlight as far as released session highlights go. There are the session takes from the GV boxset, session takes from the Pet Sounds Sessions boxset, session takes from the 40th anniversary Good Vibrations album, session takes from the Smiley Smile bonus tracks.

It is a fantastic song but I think it's time to get the Today!, Summer Days, and All Summer Long session highlights in a boxset!
I was thinking of the Good Vibrations"Insert Rehearsals" on the UM15 disc2 which for me sounds great. Thanks for the youtube comment btw ;D


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Mahalo on January 23, 2011, 04:44:54 PM
There's a segment of it on American Band.

...A segment that was recorded -not by the 'Boys- just for that documentary, IIRC.

...Dang. Too bad. Thanks Sloop John B.  8)


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: hypehat on January 23, 2011, 04:48:10 PM
There is a lot of overlap on those released sections, though - iirc they all start with the same take! There are more excerpts from those sessions which i would happily pay for, is all.

I would rather more 70's/late 60's sessions, but the nature of home studio work (although not all were done at the house) means that these would be limited. But then I'd be fine with more acapella mixes too, so i'm guess i'm not fussy.  ;D

And that's a shame about Summer Means New Love..... Anyone know who re-recorded it?


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Ebb and Flow on January 23, 2011, 06:08:17 PM
Some sessions I'd love to hear are the ones recently found on those lost Shut Down Vol. 2 reels.  "Why Do Fools Fall In Love" especially (Wrecking crew circa '63) as well as the group on "Don't Worry Baby".  It would also be interesting to hear the sessions for "Denny's Drums" I think.   :p


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: letsmakeit31 on January 24, 2011, 02:54:17 PM
Smiley Smile sessions anyone?, I can't see it happening to be honest, but would love to hear something from this era!!!


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Runaways on January 24, 2011, 03:42:53 PM
Vocal sessions from Today/Summer Days would be great. 


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: rab2591 on January 24, 2011, 04:28:12 PM
There is a lot of overlap on those released sections, though - iirc they all start with the same take! There are more excerpts from those sessions which i would happily pay for, is all.

I would rather more 70's/late 60's sessions, but the nature of home studio work (although not all were done at the house) means that these would be limited. But then I'd be fine with more acapella mixes too, so i'm guess i'm not fussy.  ;D

And that's a shame about Summer Means New Love..... Anyone know who re-recorded it?

I know! I love listening to the sessions, but I get tired of hearing "Good Vibrations, take one," "We're rolling! Let's go!"


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: hypehat on January 25, 2011, 01:55:09 AM
They aren't even the same take as well! Noticed that when one of them popped up on shuffle.... You've been double crossing us, Linett!  :lol


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: letsmakeit31 on January 28, 2011, 01:20:32 PM
There is a lot of overlap on those released sections, though - iirc they all start with the same take! There are more excerpts from those sessions which i would happily pay for, is all.

I would rather more 70's/late 60's sessions, but the nature of home studio work (although not all were done at the house) means that these would be limited. But then I'd be fine with more acapella mixes too, so i'm guess i'm not fussy.  ;D

And that's a shame about Summer Means New Love..... Anyone know who re-recorded it?

I know! I love listening to the sessions, but I get tired of hearing "Good Vibrations, take one," "We're rolling! Let's go!"
Believe it or not me too!!, But I think there could be a least another 5mins or so of the sessions of the "Good Vibs" the deserves to to be released


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on January 28, 2011, 01:46:02 PM
There is a lot of overlap on those released sections, though - iirc they all start with the same take! There are more excerpts from those sessions which i would happily pay for, is all.

I would rather more 70's/late 60's sessions, but the nature of home studio work (although not all were done at the house) means that these would be limited. But then I'd be fine with more acapella mixes too, so i'm guess i'm not fussy.  ;D

And that's a shame about Summer Means New Love..... Anyone know who re-recorded it?

I know! I love listening to the sessions, but I get tired of hearing "Good Vibrations, take one," "We're rolling! Let's go!"
Believe it or not me too!!, But I think there could be a least another 5mins or so of the sessions of the "Good Vibs" the deserves to to be released

The SOT 3CD box of the "GV" sessions may have been the least enjoyable listening experience of my last 15 years or so.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: letsmakeit31 on January 28, 2011, 01:52:04 PM
There is a lot of overlap on those released sections, though - iirc they all start with the same take! There are more excerpts from those sessions which i would happily pay for, is all.

I would rather more 70's/late 60's sessions, but the nature of home studio work (although not all were done at the house) means that these would be limited. But then I'd be fine with more acapella mixes too, so i'm guess i'm not fussy.  ;D

And that's a shame about Summer Means New Love..... Anyone know who re-recorded it?

I know! I love listening to the sessions, but I get tired of hearing "Good Vibrations, take one," "We're rolling! Let's go!"
Believe it or not me too!!, But I think there could be a least another 5mins or so of the sessions of the "Good Vibs" the deserves to to be released

The SOT 3CD box of the "GV" sessions may have been the least enjoyable listening experience of my last 15 years or so.
Oh dear I must be the only one who enjoyed this then Andrew lol :-D, So what sessions would you like to see released then?


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on January 28, 2011, 02:29:32 PM
There is a lot of overlap on those released sections, though - iirc they all start with the same take! There are more excerpts from those sessions which i would happily pay for, is all.

I would rather more 70's/late 60's sessions, but the nature of home studio work (although not all were done at the house) means that these would be limited. But then I'd be fine with more acapella mixes too, so i'm guess i'm not fussy.  ;D

And that's a shame about Summer Means New Love..... Anyone know who re-recorded it?

I know! I love listening to the sessions, but I get tired of hearing "Good Vibrations, take one," "We're rolling! Let's go!"
Believe it or not me too!!, But I think there could be a least another 5mins or so of the sessions of the "Good Vibs" the deserves to to be released

The SOT 3CD box of the "GV" sessions may have been the least enjoyable listening experience of my last 15 years or so.
Oh dear I must be the only one who enjoyed this then Andrew lol :-D, So what sessions would you like to see released then?

Anything from Sunflower through Holland.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: letsmakeit31 on January 28, 2011, 02:32:52 PM
There is a lot of overlap on those released sections, though - iirc they all start with the same take! There are more excerpts from those sessions which i would happily pay for, is all.

I would rather more 70's/late 60's sessions, but the nature of home studio work (although not all were done at the house) means that these would be limited. But then I'd be fine with more acapella mixes too, so i'm guess i'm not fussy.  ;D

And that's a shame about Summer Means New Love..... Anyone know who re-recorded it?

I know! I love listening to the sessions, but I get tired of hearing "Good Vibrations, take one," "We're rolling! Let's go!"
Believe it or not me too!!, But I think there could be a least another 5mins or so of the sessions of the "Good Vibs" the deserves to to be released

The SOT 3CD box of the "GV" sessions may have been the least enjoyable listening experience of my last 15 years or so.
Oh dear I must be the only one who enjoyed this then Andrew lol :-D, So what sessions would you like to see released then?

Anything from Sunflower through Holland.
Good call and can I add Sessions from Solar System too? or  just the track only will do!!


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: rab2591 on January 28, 2011, 03:37:02 PM
There is a lot of overlap on those released sections, though - iirc they all start with the same take! There are more excerpts from those sessions which i would happily pay for, is all.

I would rather more 70's/late 60's sessions, but the nature of home studio work (although not all were done at the house) means that these would be limited. But then I'd be fine with more acapella mixes too, so i'm guess i'm not fussy.  ;D

And that's a shame about Summer Means New Love..... Anyone know who re-recorded it?

I know! I love listening to the sessions, but I get tired of hearing "Good Vibrations, take one," "We're rolling! Let's go!"
Believe it or not me too!!, But I think there could be a least another 5mins or so of the sessions of the "Good Vibs" the deserves to to be released

The SOT 3CD box of the "GV" sessions may have been the least enjoyable listening experience of my last 15 years or so.
Oh dear I must be the only one who enjoyed this then Andrew lol :-D, So what sessions would you like to see released then?

Anything from Sunflower through Holland.

I'd love to hear the sessions from Sunflower. Funny, I've never really heard any sessions where all the Beach Boys are present - I guess the Pet Sounds vocal sessions, but I've never really heard any audio of them in a studio producing/recording instrumental tracks.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Jason on January 29, 2011, 08:10:44 AM
For what it's worth, there is a small bit of the sessions from Slip On Through (takes 6, 7, and 12, plus an earlier, more jam-based take) on bootlegs.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on January 29, 2011, 11:01:41 AM
Really? The only one  I've heard was one that was at a different speed (like, the tape itself). I need to look harder ;)


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: hypehat on January 29, 2011, 01:38:15 PM
I think Slip On Through was sped up for release.... I've only heard two slow takes, but they sound right - I think there's one where you can hear Carl talking to Dennis before he tries a vocal and they don't sound slower.

Is the jam - based take you mention the one with that ridiculous piano ending? That cracks me up for some reason.


The GV SOT isn't so bad, although the sessions for the organ bridge are probably used to torture POW's in far flung corners of the globe.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: letsmakeit31 on February 03, 2011, 02:50:15 PM
So we may have at least Smile sessions, And tracks released this year according to the latest news ;D


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: punkinhead on February 03, 2011, 11:33:03 PM
So we may have at least Smile sessions, And tracks released this year according to the latest news ;D

Is the And Tracks part of the Smile section of your sentence? are you saying Smile Sessions and tracks?

Just trying to keep stuff straight. Because if you're saying there's additional tracks that aren't Smile, I hadn't heard and was wondering what kinda tracks they were.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: letsmakeit31 on February 04, 2011, 03:03:09 AM
So we may have at least Smile sessions, And tracks released this year according to the latest news ;D

Is the And Tracks part of the Smile section of your sentence? are you saying Smile Sessions and tracks?

Just trying to keep stuff straight. Because if you're saying there's additional tracks that aren't Smile, I hadn't heard and was wondering what kinda tracks they were.
I did mean Smile tracks and sessions Punkinhead, blame my E grade in G.C.S.E English lol. Sorry for the confusion. I don't have any inside knowledge sadly but happly I'm only a big fan with gut feelings on what may be released.
To be honest I would be happy just to see an released Beach Boys Smile cd this year, as well as what we had released in the past. Ideally it would be as fully completed as possible in stereo as recorded 66-67, With a extra cd or two of Smile sessions ala Pet Sounds box set, Plus an Mono mix to boot too (Mind you we had some of the mono mix in the Good Vibs box set).


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: punkinhead on February 04, 2011, 03:08:55 AM
What's our deluxe dvd gonna look like?
Specifically, what do you want?

There's little videos and bites and documentaries all over the place to fit on a disc:

-brief Friends acapella clip about "turning each other onto the good things that life has to give" (meditation promo)
-I feel like there's these small music/song clips with Carl Wilson during Wild Honey era in the studio at Brian's House (does that sound familiar at all?)
-Brian's appearance on SNL (Love is a Woman/Good Vibrations)
-Alan/Mike appearance on Mike Douglas (Everyone's in Love with You and TM Song at the piano)
-Brian's appearance on Mike Douglas (Sloop John B and Back Home)
-Do it Again promo (the guys minus Brian go to a surf shop then go surfing)
-Cotton Fields promo
-Concert footage with Blondie (briefly shown Sail on Sailor on Endless Harmony)
-MIU/Our Team documentary
-Goin' Platinum documentary (KTSA era)
-Outtake songs from Live at Knebworth 1980 (I Write the Songs, In My Room, Good Timin, Santa Ana winds, and Some of Your Love)
-KTSA promo performances of each song (can't remember what it was called, used to be on YouTube)
-Goin' On/Good Vibrations-TV appearance on Fridays (I believe that's what it was called)
-25th Anniversary Concert in Hawaii
-New Year's Rockin' Eve with Chicago (featuring GV, Surfer Girl, Darlin', and Wishin' You Were Here)
-GV in Central Park (1971)- performing Good Vibes, Heroes, Okie From Muskogee, Forever, and It's About Time
-Full performances of Andy Williams Show (Help Me Rhonda, Their Hearts, and Little Cycle)
-Ready, Steady, Go clip of When I Grow Up to Be a Man
-Full performance of Shindig (Little St. Nick, Monster Mash, Johnny B. Goode, and Dance Dance Dance)
-New Years performance (1979 I think)- Here Comes the Night, Rock and Roll Music with Roger McGuinn, and Angel Come Home (I can't remember)
-Never Learn Not To Love, talk show performance, can't remember what show it was)
-Beat Club (1969) performance of Breakaway
-promos: Don't Go Near the Water and You Need a Mess of Help with Darryl Dragon on keyboard
-Getcha Back-tv show appearance (I remember Jeff Foskett is part of the band, Al is on tambourine, and Bruce on key-tar)  ;D
-Top of the Pops performance (1970) Tears in the Morning

Is that enough?  
Is that asking too much?

WE DESERVE IT


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: punkinhead on February 04, 2011, 03:15:00 AM
So we may have at least Smile sessions, And tracks released this year according to the latest news ;D

Is the And Tracks part of the Smile section of your sentence? are you saying Smile Sessions and tracks?

Just trying to keep stuff straight. Because if you're saying there's additional tracks that aren't Smile, I hadn't heard and was wondering what kinda tracks they were.
I did mean Smile tracks and sessions Punkinhead, blame my E grade in G.C.S.E English lol. Sorry for the confusion. I don't have any inside knowledge sadly but happly I'm only a big fan with gut feelings on what may be released.
To be honest I would be happy just to see an released Beach Boys Smile cd this year, as well as what we had released in the past. Ideally it would be as fully completed as possible in stereo as recorded 66-67, With a extra cd or two of Smile sessions ala Pet Sounds box set, Plus an Mono mix to boot too (Mind you we had some of the mono mix in the Good Vibs box set).

I gotcha, I wasn't tryin to nit-pick...I just wanna know all the information as possible...we're hungry for this...and I know myself, I read way into things too much.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: letsmakeit31 on February 04, 2011, 03:22:59 AM
So we may have at least Smile sessions, And tracks released this year according to the latest news ;D

Is the And Tracks part of the Smile section of your sentence? are you saying Smile Sessions and tracks?

Just trying to keep stuff straight. Because if you're saying there's additional tracks that aren't Smile, I hadn't heard and was wondering what kinda tracks they were.
I did mean Smile tracks and sessions Punkinhead, blame my E grade in G.C.S.E English lol. Sorry for the confusion. I don't have any inside knowledge sadly but happly I'm only a big fan with gut feelings on what may be released.
To be honest I would be happy just to see an released Beach Boys Smile cd this year, as well as what we had released in the past. Ideally it would be as fully completed as possible in stereo as recorded 66-67, With a extra cd or two of Smile sessions ala Pet Sounds box set, Plus an Mono mix to boot too (Mind you we had some of the mono mix in the Good Vibs box set).

I gotcha, I wasn't tryin to nit-pick...I just wanna know all the information as possible...we're hungry for this...and I know myself, I read way into things too much.
No problem happy to help, I'm just glad that our music dreams seems to be coming true this year!!! ;D


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: punkinhead on February 04, 2011, 05:55:44 AM
What's our deluxe dvd gonna look like?
Specifically, what do you want?

There's little videos and bites and documentaries all over the place to fit on a disc:

-brief Friends acapella clip about "turning each other onto the good things that life has to give" (meditation promo)
-I feel like there's these small music/song clips with Carl Wilson during Wild Honey era in the studio at Brian's House (does that sound familiar at all?)
-Brian's appearance on SNL (Love is a Woman/Good Vibrations)
-Alan/Mike appearance on Mike Douglas (Everyone's in Love with You and TM Song at the piano)
-Brian's appearance on Mike Douglas (Sloop John B and Back Home)
-Do it Again promo (the guys minus Brian go to a surf shop then go surfing)
-Cotton Fields promo
-Concert footage with Blondie (briefly shown Sail on Sailor on Endless Harmony)
-MIU/Our Team documentary
-Goin' Platinum documentary (KTSA era)
-Outtake songs from Live at Knebworth 1980 (I Write the Songs, In My Room, Good Timin, Santa Ana winds, and Some of Your Love)
-KTSA promo performances of each song (can't remember what it was called, used to be on YouTube)
-Goin' On/Good Vibrations-TV appearance on Fridays (I believe that's what it was called)
-25th Anniversary Concert in Hawaii
-New Year's Rockin' Eve with Chicago (featuring GV, Surfer Girl, Darlin', and Wishin' You Were Here)
-GV in Central Park (1971)- performing Good Vibes, Heroes, Okie From Muskogee, Forever, and It's About Time
-Full performances of Andy Williams Show (Help Me Rhonda, Their Hearts, and Little Cycle)
-Ready, Steady, Go clip of When I Grow Up to Be a Man
-Full performance of Shindig (Little St. Nick, Monster Mash, Johnny B. Goode, and Dance Dance Dance)
-New Years performance (1979 I think)- Here Comes the Night, Rock and Roll Music with Roger McGuinn, and Angel Come Home (I can't remember)
-Never Learn Not To Love, talk show performance, can't remember what show it was)
-Beat Club (1969) performance of Breakaway
-promos: Don't Go Near the Water and You Need a Mess of Help with Darryl Dragon on keyboard
-Getcha Back-tv show appearance (I remember Jeff Foskett is part of the band, Al is on tambourine, and Bruce on key-tar)  ;D
-Top of the Pops performance (1970) Tears in the Morning

Is that enough?  
Is that asking too much?

WE DESERVE IT
Are any of these a possibility?


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Rocker on February 04, 2011, 01:53:20 PM
What's our deluxe dvd gonna look like?
Specifically, what do you want?

There's little videos and bites and documentaries all over the place to fit on a disc:

-brief Friends acapella clip about "turning each other onto the good things that life has to give" (meditation promo)
-I feel like there's these small music/song clips with Carl Wilson during Wild Honey era in the studio at Brian's House (does that sound familiar at all?)
-Brian's appearance on SNL (Love is a Woman/Good Vibrations)
-Alan/Mike appearance on Mike Douglas (Everyone's in Love with You and TM Song at the piano)
-Brian's appearance on Mike Douglas (Sloop John B and Back Home)
-Do it Again promo (the guys minus Brian go to a surf shop then go surfing)
-Cotton Fields promo
-Concert footage with Blondie (briefly shown Sail on Sailor on Endless Harmony)
-MIU/Our Team documentary
-Goin' Platinum documentary (KTSA era)
-Outtake songs from Live at Knebworth 1980 (I Write the Songs, In My Room, Good Timin, Santa Ana winds, and Some of Your Love)
-KTSA promo performances of each song (can't remember what it was called, used to be on YouTube)
-Goin' On/Good Vibrations-TV appearance on Fridays (I believe that's what it was called)
-25th Anniversary Concert in Hawaii
-New Year's Rockin' Eve with Chicago (featuring GV, Surfer Girl, Darlin', and Wishin' You Were Here)
-GV in Central Park (1971)- performing Good Vibes, Heroes, Okie From Muskogee, Forever, and It's About Time
-Full performances of Andy Williams Show (Help Me Rhonda, Their Hearts, and Little Cycle)
-Ready, Steady, Go clip of When I Grow Up to Be a Man
-Full performance of Shindig (Little St. Nick, Monster Mash, Johnny B. Goode, and Dance Dance Dance)
-New Years performance (1979 I think)- Here Comes the Night, Rock and Roll Music with Roger McGuinn, and Angel Come Home (I can't remember)
-Never Learn Not To Love, talk show performance, can't remember what show it was)
-Beat Club (1969) performance of Breakaway
-promos: Don't Go Near the Water and You Need a Mess of Help with Darryl Dragon on keyboard
-Getcha Back-tv show appearance (I remember Jeff Foskett is part of the band, Al is on tambourine, and Bruce on key-tar)  ;D
-Top of the Pops performance (1970) Tears in the Morning

Is that enough?  
Is that asking too much?

WE DESERVE IT



I'd love to see the video-outtake from "It's ok" where the guys sit around the piano and sing "Surfer girl". In fact, I'd love all of these sessions to be released. I'd even sit through more than one "I'm bugged at my ol' man" to see the "Surfer girl"-parts


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: donald on February 04, 2011, 07:47:51 PM
2012 box set


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: punkinhead on February 04, 2011, 09:45:55 PM
What's our deluxe dvd gonna look like?
Specifically, what do you want?

There's little videos and bites and documentaries all over the place to fit on a disc:

-brief Friends acapella clip about "turning each other onto the good things that life has to give" (meditation promo)
-I feel like there's these small music/song clips with Carl Wilson during Wild Honey era in the studio at Brian's House (does that sound familiar at all?)
-Brian's appearance on SNL (Love is a Woman/Good Vibrations)
-Alan/Mike appearance on Mike Douglas (Everyone's in Love with You and TM Song at the piano)
-Brian's appearance on Mike Douglas (Sloop John B and Back Home)
-Do it Again promo (the guys minus Brian go to a surf shop then go surfing)
-Cotton Fields promo
-Concert footage with Blondie (briefly shown Sail on Sailor on Endless Harmony)
-MIU/Our Team documentary
-Goin' Platinum documentary (KTSA era)
-Outtake songs from Live at Knebworth 1980 (I Write the Songs, In My Room, Good Timin, Santa Ana winds, and Some of Your Love)
-KTSA promo performances of each song (can't remember what it was called, used to be on YouTube)
-Goin' On/Good Vibrations-TV appearance on Fridays (I believe that's what it was called)
-25th Anniversary Concert in Hawaii
-New Year's Rockin' Eve with Chicago (featuring GV, Surfer Girl, Darlin', and Wishin' You Were Here)
-GV in Central Park (1971)- performing Good Vibes, Heroes, Okie From Muskogee, Forever, and It's About Time
-Full performances of Andy Williams Show (Help Me Rhonda, Their Hearts, and Little Cycle)
-Ready, Steady, Go clip of When I Grow Up to Be a Man
-Full performance of Shindig (Little St. Nick, Monster Mash, Johnny B. Goode, and Dance Dance Dance)
-New Years performance (1979 I think)- Here Comes the Night, Rock and Roll Music with Roger McGuinn, and Angel Come Home (I can't remember)
-Never Learn Not To Love, talk show performance, can't remember what show it was)
-Beat Club (1969) performance of Breakaway
-promos: Don't Go Near the Water and You Need a Mess of Help with Darryl Dragon on keyboard
-Getcha Back-tv show appearance (I remember Jeff Foskett is part of the band, Al is on tambourine, and Bruce on key-tar)  ;D
-Top of the Pops performance (1970) Tears in the Morning

Is that enough?  
Is that asking too much?

WE DESERVE IT



I'd love to see the video-outtake from "It's ok" where the guys sit around the piano and sing "Surfer girl". In fact, I'd love all of these sessions to be released. I'd even sit through more than one "I'm bugged at my ol' man" to see the "Surfer girl"-parts
Would you be willing to sit through a silent dvd of random footage from ONE particular tour?  ;)


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: hypehat on February 05, 2011, 01:13:09 AM
I don't think you'd see much mid 70's Brian in there - Those performances range from embarassing to downright worrying.


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: slp22 on February 05, 2011, 08:29:43 AM
I would love to see the July 4th Atlantic City Concert from 1983 Released on Dvd. I think that would be Awesome.  Being the last 4th of july with all 6 members together that would be a historical document to have


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: punkinhead on February 05, 2011, 09:38:16 AM
I don't think you'd see much mid 70's Brian in there - Those performances range from embarassing to downright worrying.

"from embarassing to downright worrying..." to historical!


But prolly a piece of history Brian doesn't want brought back to the public eye, much like Ringo/Paul's distaste for bringing the Let it Be film to release.

Thinking of stuff Brian wouldn't want shown:
-the performance of Back Home where he and Mike get into a fight (been on Youtube before)...notably, Brian hits the mic.
-Brian shaking his hips to Roller Skating Child.
-Brian singing Don't Worry Baby in 1981 (I think you know what clip I'm describing)


Title: Re: Track listing for new 2011 box set??
Post by: Rocker on February 05, 2011, 02:01:35 PM

-Brian shaking his hips to Roller Skating Child.



Clip and audio don't belong together. They didn't play RSC