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Title: BWRG Vinyl
Post by: absinthe_boy on September 08, 2010, 10:52:25 AM
Just recieved my LP from Amazon.co.uk today.

Lovely product, heavy gatefold sleeve, heavy card inner jacket....nice record.....with the magic three letters imprinted in the leadout "TML".


Yeah. its good. Not Telarc good. But almost SMiLE good...in terms of fidelity.
 
Actually I find it adds to the album, it sounds more rounded than the CD. Still a little shrill in the high end but it's well produced and matered.


Title: Re: BWRG Vinyl
Post by: Steve Mayo on September 08, 2010, 11:25:27 AM
amazon has it back in stock. i just ordered a copy now.


Title: Re: BWRG Vinyl
Post by: Myk Luhv on September 08, 2010, 11:37:54 AM
Got some pics?


Title: Re: BWRG Vinyl
Post by: absinthe_boy on September 08, 2010, 12:27:48 PM
I've got no photo editing software on this laptop and the main PC is busy but here goes.

(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/n_gulliver/gersh1.JPG)

(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/n_gulliver/gersh2.JPG)


Title: Re: BWRG Vinyl
Post by: Myk Luhv on September 08, 2010, 12:35:09 PM
That is quite handsome. I really like the cover for its austerity and I bet it looks even better on vinyl!


Title: Re: BWRG Vinyl
Post by: Bubba Ho-Tep on September 08, 2010, 12:59:37 PM
I just got mine today. I panicked when Amazon seemed unable to come up with a copy, so I cancelled my order and bought one from eBay. I got #56. Now I’m debating whether to open it or save it for posterity. How many numbered copies were pressed?


Title: Re: BWRG Vinyl
Post by: smile-holland on September 08, 2010, 01:14:03 PM
I just got mine today. I panicked when Amazon seemed unable to come up with a copy, so I cancelled my order and bought one from eBay. I got #56. Now I’m debating whether to open it or save it for posterity. How many numbered copies were pressed?

just out of curiosity. I bought my vinyl (EU) copy in The Netherlands. It does say "limited edition", but I can't find a #number# anywhere. Where is it supposed to be? (or are EU copies not that "limited"?)


Title: Re: BWRG Vinyl
Post by: absinthe_boy on September 08, 2010, 01:30:28 PM
Mine is the same as SMiLE-Holland's. I bought from Amazon.co.uk and it says 'Limited Edition' but there is no number, so is not part of a numbered limited edition.


Title: Re: BWRG Vinyl
Post by: Bubba Ho-Tep on September 08, 2010, 01:31:04 PM
# is on lower left corner on back stamped in silver.


Title: Re: BWRG Vinyl
Post by: smile-holland on September 08, 2010, 01:34:30 PM
# is on lower left corner on back stamped in silver.

That's the exact location where (I guess) the EU copy says "limited edition". O well, as long as the music is the same...


Title: Re: BWRG Vinyl
Post by: bgas on September 08, 2010, 03:54:53 PM
# is on lower left corner on back stamped in silver.

That's the exact location where (I guess) the EU copy says "limited edition". O well, as long as the music is the same...

Good thing for us Brian's people didn't think of that...


Title: Re: BWRG Vinyl
Post by: Bubba Ho-Tep on September 08, 2010, 06:17:54 PM
But should I open #56? Or buy another?!?


Title: Re: BWRG Vinyl
Post by: Myk Luhv on September 08, 2010, 06:22:00 PM
Stop being a weirdo collector. Play the fucking music you bought.


Title: Re: BWRG Vinyl
Post by: Mikie on September 08, 2010, 06:37:52 PM
Say what? Collectors are weirdos?


Title: Re: BWRG Vinyl
Post by: ? on September 08, 2010, 07:09:05 PM
I just got mine today. I panicked when Amazon seemed unable to come up with a copy, so I cancelled my order and bought one from eBay. I got #56. Now I’m debating whether to open it or save it for posterity. How many numbered copies were pressed?

5000.  Number 56 is just as rare and special as say, number 5000.  Or 1257.  Or...

Play the record!


Title: Re: BWRG Vinyl
Post by: bgas on September 08, 2010, 09:22:08 PM
But should I open #56? Or buy another?!?

Buy another one.
The low number will be worth a lot more 20 years from now...


Title: Re: BWRG Vinyl
Post by: absinthe_boy on September 08, 2010, 10:21:13 PM
If I just opened and played a sealed, original 1978 copy of the famous Teldec "bass drum that was heard around the world" record then you can open BWRG. I give you the authority. Go ahead and enjoy yourself.

The European version just says "limited edition". Music is no doubt the same, the EU pressing is mastered by TML according to the leadout....and that really is all you need to know about the quality.


Title: Re: BWRG Vinyl
Post by: ? on September 09, 2010, 12:39:59 AM
US pressing has TML-M in the deadwax as well.

I'm amazed from the posts on this board that so many people buy records and don't even bother playing them.  Seriously, I don't care how much a record is "worth", it's meant to be played.  I've spent some decent money on various pressings that I've wanted, but they all go straight to the platter.  Any one of us could be gone tomorrow you know...  There's no reason not to enjoy what we can today.

And absinthe, I bet it felt great to break that seal!


Title: Re: BWRG Vinyl
Post by: The Shift on September 09, 2010, 02:20:17 AM
I bought number 56 too, and I opened mine -  wonder if it's got the same music as your number 56?

Mine starts wiith Rhapsody in Blue (7 mins 53 secs), then goes into I Love You Porgie, then Do You Dig Worms, followed by Three Blind Mice and S'Wonderful.  However if you play it backwards it's an advert for K-Mart.


Title: Re: BWRG Vinyl
Post by: hypehat on September 09, 2010, 04:05:56 AM
Hey, i got a #56 too, but I opened it and the labels damaged or something - it just says 'Smile test press '67' in scratchy handwriting. Think I'll get my money back.


Title: Re: BWRG Vinyl
Post by: smile-holland on September 09, 2010, 04:29:07 AM
Hey, i got a #56 too, but I opened it and the labels damaged or something - it just says 'Smile test press '67' in scratchy handwriting. Think I'll get my money back.

wanna trade?  ;D


Title: Re: BWRG Vinyl
Post by: absinthe_boy on September 09, 2010, 06:01:05 AM
I suppose I have wiped a few hundred $ off the total value of my record collection by playing certain discs. But I've had far more enjoyment from listening to them than I would from merely looking at the sealed packages. I didn't buy them to sell them on, so what use is the perceived monetary "value" ?

Its like the people who buy classic racing cars and then seal them in dust-free, hermetically sealed garages...never to see a race track or even to fire up the engines. Where is the fun in that?

Mind you, many people probably don't see the fun in LPs or classic racing cars at all.


Title: Re: BWRG Vinyl
Post by: SloopJohnB on September 09, 2010, 06:47:53 AM
I suppose I have wiped a few hundred $ off the total value of my record collection by playing certain discs. But I've had far more enjoyment from listening to them than I would from merely looking at the sealed packages. I didn't buy them to sell them on, so what use is the perceived monetary "value" ?

Its like the people who buy classic racing cars and then seal them in dust-free, hermetically sealed garages...never to see a race track or even to fire up the engines. Where is the fun in that?

Mind you, many people probably don't see the fun in LPs or classic racing cars at all.

Perfect analogy - as a music lover and a car lover, never using the cars or the records the way they were intended to be used is something I can't really understand...

...Well, I can kind of understand it: some of these people see them as an "investment", but in doing that they're preventing other people from having fun and actually enjoying playing the record or driving the car.  :-\

But some people seem to not see them as an investment, and seem to be genuinely proud of owning such and such thing, even though they never use it. They say they're happy with just owning the thing and keeping it in "perfect condition". These people I can't understand. At all.

I've already bought several "collectible" records that were still sealed, and I've opened and played them all. Have their values decreased? Sure. Do I care? Nope. Did I enjoy listening to them? Certainly. It's the same with cars; I don't have enough money yet, but one day I know I'll buy a few classic cars with relatively low mileage, and I'll drive them as often as I can.  8)



Regarding the BWRG vinyl, I won't buy it - I just don't like the album enough to buy it on vinyl...


Title: Re: BWRG Vinyl
Post by: bgas on September 09, 2010, 07:16:28 AM
I suppose I have wiped a few hundred $ off the total value of my record collection by playing certain discs. But I've had far more enjoyment from listening to them than I would from merely looking at the sealed packages. I didn't buy them to sell them on, so what use is the perceived monetary "value" ?

Its like the people who buy classic racing cars and then seal them in dust-free, hermetically sealed garages...never to see a race track or even to fire up the engines. Where is the fun in that?

Mind you, many people probably don't see the fun in LPs or classic racing cars at all.

Perfect analogy - as a music lover and a car lover, never using the cars or the records the way they were intended to be used is something I can't really understand...

...Well, I can kind of understand it: some of these people see them as an "investment", but in doing that they're preventing other people from having fun and actually enjoying playing the record or driving the car.  :-\

But some people seem to not see them as an investment, and seem to be genuinely proud of owning such and such thing, even though they never use it. They say they're happy with just owning the thing and keeping it in "perfect condition". These people I can't understand. At all.

I've already bought several "collectible" records that were still sealed, and I've opened and played them all. Have their values decreased? Sure. Do I care? Nope. Did I enjoy listening to them? Certainly. It's the same with cars; I don't have enough money yet, but one day I know I'll buy a few classic cars with relatively low mileage, and I'll use them as often as I can.  8)

You can go your own way...
I get IMMENSE joy out of looking at my collection, and I rarely, if ever, play my vinyl.
I LOVE THAT I OWN THEM
Pull out my Red/Yellow vinyl Kenny and The Cadets 45 and actually play it? ( Are you NUTS?)
I didn't buy them to sell them on, per se, but many of them of them are, indeed, an investment.
(probably for the dude that will find them in the used bin at Goodwill after I'm gone)
I don't play my Playtapes, 4 Tracks, Reels, Pick your poison... either, but it's still a THRILL knowing I have them

For you I  say:
 (We) collectors aren't stopping you from enjoying them. We're simply preserving them, so that 2/3/4 generations from now, someone will be able to enjoy them the way you feel they  were intended to be used.
If you disagree with my method, so be it.
Let's agree to disagree



Title: Re: BWRG Vinyl
Post by: SloopJohnB on September 09, 2010, 08:23:22 AM

You can go your own way...
I get IMMENSE joy out of looking at my collection, and I rarely, if ever, play my vinyl.
I LOVE THAT I OWN THEM
Pull out my Red/Yellow vinyl Kenny and The Cadets 45 and actually play it? ( Are you NUTS?)
I didn't buy them to sell them on, per se, but many of them of them are, indeed, an investment.
(probably for the dude that will find them in the used bin at Goodwill after I'm gone)
I don't play my Playtapes, 4 Tracks, Reels, Pick your poison... either, but it's still a THRILL knowing I have them

For you I  say:
 (We) collectors aren't stopping you from enjoying them. We're simply preserving them, so that 2/3/4 generations from now, someone will be able to enjoy them the way you feel they  were intended to be used.
If you disagree with my method, so be it.
Let's agree to disagree



Yeah, well, if it's a thrill knowing you have them, if you're really enjoying owning these records, then I guess it's not as bad as viewing the records as mere investments. Still, I don't understand it.

"...preserving them, so that 2/3/4 generations from now, someone will be able to enjoy them the way you feel they were intended to be used": so, sometime in the future, someone will play the record and "damage" it. Thus, those who are born after that "someone" has damaged that record won't be able to hear it in good quality. It's just a matter of when the record won't sound good anymore. So why not use it now? Do you really think many people will have record players in 150 years, and that they'll be interested in playing a Kenny & The Cadets 45 rpm?

By preserving these records for future generations, you are stopping current generations from enjoying them! :( (I'm not criticizing you, just underlining a fact)

The song itself will be preserved anyway, as a digital file...

Let's agree to disagree indeed  :)


Title: Re: BWRG Vinyl
Post by: bgas on September 09, 2010, 08:39:52 AM
cool


Title: Re: BWRG Vinyl
Post by: absinthe_boy on September 09, 2010, 10:16:00 AM
I just feel that life's short, I'm going to enjoy my posessions while I have them. If financial hardship down the road forces me to sell some of my collection, I won't own those records anymore....but I'll have had tne enjoyment of playing them.

Some of the "values" of records I bought for little outlay 20 years ago are just silly, in my humble opinion.

I'd rather be known as the crazy guy who played his Lamb Lies Down on Brodaway 45 at a drunken party than the guy who keeps records in a display cabinet.


Title: Re: BWRG Vinyl
Post by: Mikie on September 09, 2010, 10:28:29 AM
Yeah, I played my original 'Bob & Sheri' Surfer Moon single once or twice..............dumb.



Title: Re: BWRG Vinyl
Post by: bgas on September 09, 2010, 10:42:53 AM
Yeah, I played my original 'Bob & Sheri' Surfer Moon single once or twice..............dumb.



Yeah, maybe, but we prefer to think of you as our dumb angel


Title: Re: BWRG Vinyl
Post by: Mikie on September 09, 2010, 10:50:26 AM
C'mon, quit teasing me, Bgas.  I can't take it.  I'm very sensitive.


Title: Re: BWRG Vinyl
Post by: bgas on September 09, 2010, 11:18:09 AM
Yes. I know. Susan told me


Title: Re: BWRG Vinyl
Post by: Mikie on September 09, 2010, 11:21:13 AM
Susan who.


Title: Re: BWRG Vinyl
Post by: Fun Is In on September 09, 2010, 12:07:53 PM
In a few days, the free market will be determining the current value of an autographed vinyl copy
of BWRG

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290472638074&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT


Title: Re: BWRG Vinyl
Post by: bgas on September 09, 2010, 01:14:30 PM
In a few days, the free market will be determining the current value of an autographed vinyl copy
of BWRG

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290472638074&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

The free market has already determined a value, twice: 

http://cgi.ebay.com/BRIAN-WILSON-Reimagines-Gershwin-SIGNED-LP-BEACH-BOYS-/300461832685    ( $170 )

http://cgi.ebay.com/SIGNED-BRIAN-WILSON-reimagines-GERSHWIN-VINYL-WOW-/290469710069   ( # 1242,  $154.50; previously sold by the same seller for the one ending in a few days)


Title: Re: BWRG Vinyl
Post by: absinthe_boy on September 09, 2010, 01:19:29 PM
How much somebody is prepared to pay is not the same as "value".

The owner may place more or less value on it than the cost. Market is a fickle thing. The money necessary to purchase my first edition  (pink scroll) Trespass album by Genesis from 1970 complete with lyric sheet has fluctuated between US$20 to US$700 in the 21 years I have owned the record. More fool the person who sold it to me for US$30 (20 pounds at the time. Damn this American keyboard!).



Title: Re: BWRG Vinyl
Post by: Bubba Ho-Tep on September 09, 2010, 10:04:55 PM
See that? I could have kept my #56 sealed and then have Brian sign it next time I see him and then I could have turned around and sell it for fat cash! But NO! I've opened the damn thing and played it.


Title: Re: BWRG Vinyl
Post by: Fun Is In on September 10, 2010, 04:23:29 AM
My local independent music retailer had three copies of the BWRG vinyl in stock last night (in the W section, not out on prominent display). Strangely, all were numbered 56......not. One each in the 1000 range, 2000 range and 3000 range.  Thought I had read the the limited edition was limited to 2000? What's the number?

Took home the lowest numbered one. Now waiting to see if the record police arrive and force me to take it out of the shrink wrap.  ::)





Title: Re: BWRG Vinyl
Post by: MBE on September 14, 2010, 12:05:05 AM
I ordered it from acousticsounds.com but the usually spot on company didn't get it in yet. I cancelled it and finally got one from amazon. I can't wait to hear it.


Title: Re: BWRG Vinyl
Post by: Curtis Leon on September 15, 2010, 06:41:46 AM
If/when I find a new copy of the BWRG vinyl, I'm going to buy a turntable and make a vinyl rip. THEN I can play it. Cause even if I accidentally destroy it, I'll still have it. Suckers!


Title: Re: BWRG Vinyl
Post by: The Heartical Don on September 15, 2010, 07:22:18 AM
If I can get hold of a BWRG vinyl copy, I will steal many old unused X-ray photos from the academic hospital nearby. Then I will do intense research on how Russian kids managed to make Beatles boots in the '60s and '70s with only these photos as templates for further pressings (negative positive mother etc. the whole process). And then I will press boots of BWRG in my own secret lab. Then I will bring my BWRG copy to a bank safe. And then I will play X-rays of broken arms, ribs, legs, skulls, and penises with the music of BWRG for the rest of my goddarn life.

THAT'S WHAT I'LL DO!


Title: Re: BWRG Vinyl
Post by: Steve Mayo on September 15, 2010, 09:49:05 AM
My local independent music retailer had three copies of the BWRG vinyl in stock last night (in the W section, not out on prominent display). Strangely, all were numbered 56......not. One each in the 1000 range, 2000 range and 3000 range.  Thought I had read the the limited edition was limited to 2000? What's the number?

Took home the lowest numbered one. Now waiting to see if the record police arrive and force me to take it out of the shrink wrap.  ::)





mine arrived from amazon monday. number 2647


Title: Re: BWRG Vinyl
Post by: Gettin Hungry on October 04, 2018, 05:53:05 AM
Sorry to resurrect this old thread, but I was in my local record store and found a signed copy of the Brian Wilson Reimagines Gershwin. From what I read, only the first 200 copies ordered were signed, and I was just trying to determine if this one is legit. I wasn't a member here when this came out, so I'm trying to play catch up on this eight-year-old album. The number is 1646. The autograph is in silver, which seems to match the others I've seen online. Is there a way to verify its authenticity?