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Title: Al Jardine's "A Postcard From California"
Post by: ESQ Editor on June 24, 2010, 05:09:27 PM
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Big Sur, CA — Al Jardine's "A Postcard From California" will be
released exclusively on iTunes, Tuesday, June 29, 2010.

Jardine, a founding member of the legendary Beach Boys, has been
working on the new album over the last few years. He will
be joined by some very special guests on this disc including his
former band-mates Brian Wilson, Mike Love, David Marks, Bruce Johnston,
his his two sons Matt and Adam Jardine, as well as Steve Miller,
Gerry Beckley & Dewey Bunnell of America, David Crosby, Neil Young,
Glen Campbell, Flea, Scott Mathews, Norton Buffalo Alec Baldwin
and more...

Jardine has said that the album will touch upon California's history,
climate and energy problems as well as various ecological topics. It also
revisits his #1 hit with the Beach Boys, "Help Me Rhonda" with guest
vocals by Steve Miller and Matt Jardine. A video of the song is posted on
his web site,  www.AlJardine.com.

One of the songs, "Don't Fight The Sea" was recorded in the late 70s/80 for
a proposed environmentally themed solo album between Jardine and Mike Love,
but was never completed. Though the song was not intended for the Beach Boys,
the guys were, nevertheless, happy to lend their voices to it.
It is a timely theme in this year of the Gulf oil spill, and global warming.

Throughout the years, Jardine has written and produced most of the
ecological and social-themed songs for Beach Boys albums, including
the "California Saga" suite from the group's 1973 Holland album,
"Don't Go Near the Water" and "Lookin' At Tomorrow."

Also appearing as a special guest in an impromptu video is actor Alec Baldwin,
who currently stars as Jack Donaghy on the hit NBC sitcom 30 Rock. On the track,
“Tidepool Interlude,” Baldwin is seen reading a moving tribute to California and its
natural beauty written by Stephen John Kalinich as Jardine produces the session.
The video will also be released on Jardine's web site and YouTube Tuesday, June 29.

For more information on the new album visit his official website www.AlJardine.com.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

JARDINE TO SUPPORT ALBUM WITH TOUR.
Big Sur, CA — Al Jardine, a founding member of the legendary Beach Boys,
new album "A Postcard From California" will be
release exclusively on iTunes, Tuesday, June 29, 2010.

The most anticipated solo album from a founding member of the band,
Jardine will be supporting the release with a mini-solo tour this summer with
"Endless Summer" touring band featuring the original
Beach Boys' rhythm section, and sons Matt and Adam Jardine.

"The songs on this album have a timely theme, especially in this year of the Gulf oil spill,
and global warming," said Jardine. "However, my live show will have plenty of hit songs
for all audineces to enjoy."

The "Postcard From California album will touch upon California's history, climate and energy problems
as well as various ecological topics. It also revisits his #1 hit with the Beach Boys,
"Help Me Rhonda" with additional vocals by Steve Miller and Matt Jardine.
An exclusive video of the recording session is posted on his official web site,
www.AlJardine.com. Vist the web site for album music samples, tour dates reviews
and more exclusive content.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: c-man on June 24, 2010, 06:55:34 PM
"DFTS" not intended for the Beach Boys?  Hmm, that's not what his website said last time I looked...in fact, it said the exact opposite...


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: the captain on June 24, 2010, 07:46:35 PM
The most anticipated solo album from a founding member of the band(1),
Jardine will be supporting the release with a mini-solo tour this summer with
"Endless Summer" touring band featuring the original
Beach Boys' rhythm section (2)...
(1) More anticipated than BWPS? (2) Dennis was brought back to life to drum?


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Mark H. on June 24, 2010, 08:20:19 PM
More guest stars than songs....hmmm.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Jim V. on June 24, 2010, 08:54:58 PM
So does this mean there is no physical release of it, besides the made it order CD-Rs that Amazon is putting out? Hopefully somebody in the know has an idea.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: jimmyboy on June 25, 2010, 12:22:01 AM
this news is quite under-whelming.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on June 25, 2010, 01:25:51 AM
So, evidently no Beach Boys fans here. Hm.  :shrug


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Don_Zabu on June 25, 2010, 01:34:36 AM
So, evidently no Beach Boys fans here. Hm.  :shrug
I'm excited, at least.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Eric Aniversario on June 25, 2010, 01:54:14 AM
FINALLY!  I'm really glad to hear that it's finally getting released!  Even if it's just a digital release...I'm not going to complain.  I'll just be glad to have it, period.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Charles LePage @ ComicList on June 25, 2010, 02:45:41 AM
I don't buy music from iTunes.   Why won't this be available on Amazon or Zune?


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on June 25, 2010, 02:47:34 AM
Available on amazon.com as a CDR "on demand". I love that phrase - doesn't it just make you want to send them an email saying "I DEMAND a copy of Al Jardine's new album !!"


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Loaf on June 25, 2010, 02:48:24 AM
This is a bit underwhelming considering how long Al spent looking for a deal.

I'd like a physical CD, not mp3s.

But at least if it's only available through itunes, then I can avoid buying the wretched Help Me Rhonda remake.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: c-man on June 25, 2010, 04:54:59 AM
Folks, if you MUST have a physcial copy, follow Andrew's lead and demand one from Amazon.  Problem solved.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's
Post by: tpesky on June 25, 2010, 06:59:42 AM
"DFTS" not intended for the Beach Boys?  Hmm, that's not what his website said last time I looked...in fact, it said the exact opposite...

Perhaps Mike threatened to sue if he didn't change the story.  :)


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Foster's Freeze on June 25, 2010, 08:48:39 AM
Great news.

I'm happy for Al and I am happy that we fans will have some new music to enjoy.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Jon Stebbins on June 25, 2010, 09:03:25 AM
I think the real news here is tour dates with the "original Beach Boys' rhythm section" :o...  either Al is going to break out the stand-up bass, and Brian is going to break out his finger on a snare...OR...they exhumed Dennis from the depths of the Pacific and Brian is actually going to plug in the P-bass. Either way its an incredible happening. Do you think Al is actually paying somebody to write this comedy?


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Paulos on June 25, 2010, 09:08:23 AM
An actual release date, hurrah! I am actually looking forward to this - new(ish) product from a Beach Boy is something we should be treasuring and Al's album followed by Brian's new album in August is going to make for a great summer. I too shall be demanding my right to a CDR from amazon as I don't have use i-tunes and probably never will.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: tpesky on June 25, 2010, 10:05:51 AM
I'm guessing the translation got lost between classic back up band and original rhythm section.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: shelter on June 25, 2010, 10:33:59 AM
VERY dissapointing news.  >:( I've been waiting for this album for years and as soon as there's a physical release, I'll be the first to get it. But as long as it's a digital release only: screw it. I'm not paying for digital files or a CD-recordable.

How hard can it be to just release a DIY CD? Even my band did that a couple of times without losing money and unlike Al, we hardly have a fanbase to speak of.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: SurfRiderHawaii on June 25, 2010, 11:41:39 AM
It costs like $800-900 to print up 300 mastered albums.  And it gets cheaper, per disc, from there as the numbers go up.  If Al can't afford that himself, ugh!

And why in the world he go on tour to promote his new album but not have any CDs to flog at his gigs?????

Most of us are Beach Boy collectors, of a sort,  and want a CD.

I guess, in the end, all that "label shopping/offers from record companies" was total BS.  Obviously, nobody wanted to release this thing.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Matt H on June 25, 2010, 12:20:32 PM
I would think that it would be all over the front of aljardine.com, but I don't see anything unless you go to the messages section.

FYI you can listen to snippets of all the tracks at Amazon.com


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Dutchie on June 25, 2010, 12:39:58 PM
http://www.amazon.com/A-Postcard-From-California/dp/B003TVDDKQ/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=dmusic&qid=1277494676&sr=8-3


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Don_Zabu on June 25, 2010, 12:52:41 PM
Why is everyone so adverse to MP3's around here? I mean, really.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: shelter on June 25, 2010, 01:05:35 PM
Why is everyone so adverse to MP3's around here? I mean, really.

It makes perfect sense that the album is available on iTunes. It's 2010, that's where a lot of people get their music nowadays. But download only is oh so lame. Putting a dozen new digital files online is not the same thing as releasing an actual album. At least give people the option to get a physical album.

Maybe some artists could get away with a download only album nowadays, But I think what Al forgot is that a lot of his fans are either not very young anymore, or a bit conservative when it comes to music. And a lot of them are collectors.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Matt H on June 25, 2010, 01:13:35 PM
Does anyone know if this will get a physical release?  Maybe Al is trying to show how many units he can sell via amazon & iTunes to prove to record companies that he is a brand that will sell.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Rich Panteluk on June 25, 2010, 01:18:01 PM
What is with all the pouting kids?  Make up your mind, you complain about Al taking too long and then he puts it out and you say I'm waiting for a cd...

I had the good fortune to hear much of this in the early mix stages thanks to Trisha Campo a good while back.  While I agree it would be nice to hear more original songs - there is some GREAT material here and I think it is very much worth the price of admission.

Looking Down the Coast on Al's new album is way better than the unreleased Beach Boys take on the song.  The new instrumental production is wonderful compared to the cluttered production that The Beach Boys came up with on the earlier attempt.  This new version has a majestic beauty with wonderful splashes of timpani and great percussive touches.  I always loved the melody of this song, Al's singing here is rock solid and this new version is not only the best version yet, it is sublime.

Brian's contributions to Al's album are very nice too.  I like the production on Brian's vocals AND his delivery very much.  Brian's performances here sound relaxed in a way I wish more of Brian's vocals on his own solo cds would sound.  No muddy quadruple tracking on the leads, no slurring or jarring straining for notes, just a simple clean and smooth delivery.  Brian really shines on his contribution to Drivin'.

Also very nice to hear so many Beach Boys reunited on this cd.  This makes it worth owning just for that fact.  David's guitar on Drivin' just smokes.  Hearing all those Beach Boys on Don't Fight the Sea is a joy (even if the recorded performances span a decade or two ;-)).  Funny for a guy who found himself dis-invited from the Beach Boys as well as Brian's solo tours - he still managed to get them all collected on one cd (even if they are no longer with us) and knowing what we do about The Beach Boys that is no small feat.  It is something to be treasured.

Do I wish there were more original tracks and less retreads?  Yes.
Do I wish Al explored more of the folk genre that he clearly enjoys? Yes
Do I wish there is an actual factory pressed cd with great liner notes and artwork? Yes
Do I wish there hadn't have been many promised release dates that were not met? Yes
Can the old Help Me Rhonda ever be bettered? No

But I do enjoy most of the guest’s performances on the new album.  And usually guest performances tend to indicate that the artist either doesn't have much to offer or seems like a desperate grab to get more listeners and increase the target market.  I don't feel that way about this album.

Many on this board having been taking pot shots at Al about the content, guest artists and numerous release dates of the cd.  People are making it sound like Al is trying to create his own Smile with this cd with the years of tinkering put in - like he was madly slaving away in a desperate fury to bring his masterpiece to life and what a difficult birth it was, blah blah blah...

When I spoke with Al a few times about recording this cd (April 4, 5 - 2008 and July 18 - 2009) he has a very different picture to paint about recording the cd.  He said he enjoyed taking it slow - only doing small bits here and there, no rush or hassle with a record company breathing down his neck.  He said he very much enjoyed working with his family and that during this process Matt's family was growing and he just had a good time reuniting some family and friends in pursuit of having a good time and making some music together.  If I were in my mid-sixties that sounds like a pace and a process that I would enjoy.  I think he has earned it.

Reasons to buy this rekkid:

Al is without a doubt the best current singer of the surviving Beach Boys and his vocals here bear that out.
The production on this cd is great, simple but with some great performances and not a cluttered mess.
Some great guest performances (I don't think many here are going to complain about the guests as they did with GIOMH).  Crosby, Stills, Young, Campbell, Miller, Flea, America - nice.
Many Beach Boys all on the same cd. (Brian, Carl, Mike, Bruce, David and maybe even Dennis).  What fan of The Beach Boys doesn’t want to hear that?
So nice to hear the voice of dearly departed Carl Wilson again.

Maybe I'm all Mike Love on this (Mr. Positivity), but I see more things to be happy with than complain about (but as Beach Boys fans we all love to say that we have a better plan).  I'd way rather have this then nothing at all.

Bring on Brian's new Gershwin cd!  Can't wait too long...
And how about a release for Mike's solo cd?  Wouldn't it be nice?
And then give me The Beach Boys reunion.  I like AGD's dream reunion plan as laid out on The Bloo board, but I would rather a reunion take place in the studio (maybe Al's barn) and have them record a few new tunes and run through some oldies.  I think they would have a decent chance of making it SOUND BETTER that way.  Get some video of it and do a little tv (maybe PBS) special and we would get the chance to SEE our favorite band together again.  I think Brian might be more relaxed this way.  I think Brian would like to hang out with The Beach Boys again (I'd certainly like to see it), but I worry about the added pressure of learning new parts and how facing an audience would be for Brian.
I'd like to see it be as pleasant as possible for all of them to Do it again.
Until the reunion, I'll be kicking back and listening to Al's new album, and Brian's (I'm hoping for great things) and the ESQ cd that is on the way.  Seems like it is gonna be a good summer for me (3 Mike and Bruce shows booked so far - and waiting on some Brian and Al dates to add to the mix).  If some of you stick in the muds would cheer up and count your blessings (and the wealth of good vibrations The Beach Boys are still providing us) you might enjoy it too.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: shelter on June 25, 2010, 02:00:07 PM
What is with all the pouting kids?  Make up your mind, you complain about Al taking too long and then he puts it out and you say I'm waiting for a cd...

I don't have to make up my mind. I don't download music, period. So to me this album doesn't excist until it's a CD or an LP. That's not that hard to understand, is it?


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Alex on June 25, 2010, 02:04:27 PM
What is with all the pouting kids?  Make up your mind, you complain about Al taking too long and then he puts it out and you say I'm waiting for a cd...

I don't have to make up my mind. I don't download music, period. So to me this album doesn't excist until it's a CD or an LP. That's not that hard to understand, is it?

Download and burn it to a CD. Voila! Instant physical copy!!!


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Wirestone on June 25, 2010, 02:15:21 PM
Um -- if you "don't download music, period," you'll miss out on a lot of worthwhile listening, often at extremely cheap prices. The quality of downloads is now equal to (or better than) CD, and they take up a heckuva lot less space.

It's not always my first choice, but given the evaporation of physical record stores (especially in small to mid-size towns) I do it now and then. I would have never heard Owen Pallett otherwise.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Awesoman on June 25, 2010, 06:13:13 PM
What is with all the pouting kids?  Make up your mind, you complain about Al taking too long and then he puts it out and you say I'm waiting for a cd...

I don't have to make up my mind. I don't download music, period. So to me this album doesn't excist until it's a CD or an LP. That's not that hard to understand, is it?

No.  Close-mindedness isn't hard to understand.  :-)


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: shelter on June 25, 2010, 07:05:57 PM
What is with all the pouting kids?  Make up your mind, you complain about Al taking too long and then he puts it out and you say I'm waiting for a cd...

I don't have to make up my mind. I don't download music, period. So to me this album doesn't excist until it's a CD or an LP. That's not that hard to understand, is it?

Download and burn it to a CD. Voila! Instant physical copy!!!

Yeah, a physical copy that looks like crap and probably won't even play anymore within three or four years.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: shelter on June 25, 2010, 07:11:13 PM
What is with all the pouting kids?  Make up your mind, you complain about Al taking too long and then he puts it out and you say I'm waiting for a cd...

I don't have to make up my mind. I don't download music, period. So to me this album doesn't excist until it's a CD or an LP. That's not that hard to understand, is it?

No.  Close-mindedness isn't hard to understand.  :-)

Good.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's
Post by: SurfRiderHawaii on June 25, 2010, 11:06:28 PM
What is with all the pouting kids?  Make up your mind, you complain about Al taking too long and then he puts it out and you say I'm waiting for a cd...

I had the good fortune to hear much of this in the early mix stages thanks to Trisha Campo a good while back.  While I agree it would be nice to hear more original songs - there is some GREAT material here and I think it is very much worth the price of admission.


Yada yada ..................

Agree totally and am going to buy it.  I do own an iPod.

But it's just a boneheaded move not to press some CDs.

I'll  speculate it's all down to Al's ego.  No label wanted the record so, by going strictly iTunes, it's under the radar that there is no label/CD release.  If he released it himself on CD, all would see there was no major label.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's
Post by: Awesoman on June 25, 2010, 11:56:41 PM
What is with all the pouting kids?  Make up your mind, you complain about Al taking too long and then he puts it out and you say I'm waiting for a cd...

I had the good fortune to hear much of this in the early mix stages thanks to Trisha Campo a good while back.  While I agree it would be nice to hear more original songs - there is some GREAT material here and I think it is very much worth the price of admission.


Yada yada ..................

Agree totally and am going to buy it.  I do own an iPod.

But it's just a boneheaded move not to press some CDs.

I'll  speculate it's all down to Al's ego.  No label wanted the record so, by going strictly iTunes, it's under the radar that there is no label/CD release.  If he released it himself on CD, all would see there was no major label.

It's probably just cheaper going the digital route.  Al Jardine could have gone with www.cdbaby.com and had his album both on CD and digital format.  Oh well.  If a CD of this album materializes I'll pick it up, but I'm just happy he's releasing the damn thing after all thi stime.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on June 26, 2010, 12:42:06 AM
I'll  speculate it's all down to Al's ego.  No label wanted the record so, by going strictly iTunes, it's under the radar that there is no label/CD release.  If he released it himself on CD, all would see there was no major label.

He was offered a deal by a major label at roughly the same time as Brian was for TLOS, but decided against it. From what I've heard of it, one way and another, it's a good album. Snag is, after over three years of stalling and postponing, no-one outside of the BB fan world is really that interested. As someone pointed out, "more guests than tracks".


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Eric Aniversario on June 26, 2010, 01:17:12 AM
Does anyone know if the cd-r version will come with artwork?  I'd be willing to pay the extra $2 for that, but if there's no artwork, then I'm just getting the digital version.

::EDIT::

From the Amazon listing:

CD-Rs and DVD-Rs (the "R" stands for "recordable") look like the discs you're used to and offer the same audio and image quality. This recordable media is used to manufacture titles on demand, as fully authorized by the content provider.

Through manufacturing on demand, CreateSpace, part of the Amazon.com group of companies, enables Amazon.com to offer music and video content that might not otherwise be available. Each disc comes fully packaged, with artwork, in a standard jewel case for audio and an Amaray case for video, although for reissued products the artwork may differ from the original.

CreateSpace works with many of the leading music labels, television networks, film studios, and other distributors to make these titles available to Amazon.com customers. All products are manufactured from original source materials (e.g., for audio products, uncompressed CD-quality audio).

By eliminating inventory, waste, and inefficiencies in the distribution system, on-demand manufacturing provides the added benefit of helping preserve the environment.

When shopping, you'll see CD-R or DVD-R on the product detail page for such products. Amazon.com's standard return policy applies to these purchases.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Eric Aniversario on June 26, 2010, 01:26:03 AM
I would think that it would be all over the front of aljardine.com, but I don't see anything unless you go to the messages section.

FYI you can listen to snippets of all the tracks at Amazon.com

Thanks!  Just listened.  Campfire Scene sounds different from the EP upon first listen.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's
Post by: hypehat on June 26, 2010, 02:24:28 AM
I'll  speculate it's all down to Al's ego.  No label wanted the record so, by going strictly iTunes, it's under the radar that there is no label/CD release.  If he released it himself on CD, all would see there was no major label.

He was offered a deal by a major label at roughly the same time as Brian was for TLOS, but decided against it. From what I've heard of it, one way and another, it's a good album. Snag is, after over three years of stalling and postponing, no-one outside of the BB fan world is really that interested. As someone pointed out, "more guests than tracks".

Dammit, Al. Was it a single album deal like Brian's too? Can see that being a stumbling block....

It's nice this is getting released, and although the prospect of an Al Jardine album with Help Me Rhonda on it doesn't quite set my world on fire like Brian's Gershwin project, hopefully it'll be pleasant listening.

And on the whole download/cd debate, i don't mind a download, but the vast majority of the Al-demographic are the sort who buy things on CD and vinyl.  To not even go the independent pressing route (which costs $300 or something stupidly cheap for someone who gets royalties from one of America's biggest bands EVER) is perhaps a bit short-sighted....


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: SloopJohnB on June 26, 2010, 04:49:32 AM
I'm not opposed to the concept of downloadable mp3s. But...

- I might be wrong, but iTunes doesn't offer lossless tracks
- No artwork, no liner notes, no jewel case
- Assuming each track costs $1, the full album will cost $12. The "Gershwin" album's retail price is $2 more.

I'm most certainly NOT willing to pay $12 for lossy files, without a jewel case, liner notes, and artwork. $6 would seem like a decent price.

I still don't know whether I'll buy a CD-R copy from Amazon ($21, shipping included, for a CD-R? Seriously?) or if I'll wait for someone to put it on the internet for free.  :-\


Title: Re: Al Jardine's
Post by: Stegibo on June 26, 2010, 06:12:19 AM
I don't think you get mp3s when you download something at itunes, I think you get something like .m4a.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's
Post by: SloopJohnB on June 26, 2010, 06:28:32 AM
I don't think you get mp3s when you download something at itunes, I think you get something like .m4a.

You're right - actually, they're AAC files, "m4a" is the "container". But my point stands - they're lossy.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: doc smiley on June 26, 2010, 07:03:28 AM
12 tracks... and two of them are link (short) tracks... 10 tracks with 3 of them being covers...
7 tracks... and 3 of those are BB out-takes from the 70's..
so there are 4 tracks that are new that Al gives us since 1980...
3 "New" songs in 30 years....  ::)


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: the captain on June 26, 2010, 07:15:43 AM
The idea that an album has to contain original, new songs written by the performer is not valid. Plenty of the greats throughout history didn't write songs, or write many songs. The idea sometimes is the performance. As much as I like Al's compositional contributions over the years, I don't think anyone is going to confuse him with Brian Wilson or Paul McCartney. If you like Al Jardine, odds are you like his voice, his folky-folksy sound with occasional quirky production, or are intrigued by elves. If that's the case, you buy the album and like it. If you expected a grand modern classic with a dozen new songs that could be Billboard hits, you've probably coming at this the wrong way.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: grillo on June 26, 2010, 08:28:07 AM
12 tracks... and two of them are link (short) tracks... 10 tracks with 3 of them being covers...
7 tracks... and 3 of those are BB out-takes from the 70's..
so there are 4 tracks that are new that Al gives us since 1980...
3 "New" songs in 30 years....  ::)
That's still more new Al than the first 30 years of the BB!


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: doc smiley on June 26, 2010, 09:03:17 AM
I don't want to make this sound as negative as I seem to be putting it...


I love Al's stuff (covers), and I know that he's really not much of a songwriter...
What I would consider a dream project for Al is sort of like what Brian's doing now...

How about  "Al reimagines Buddy Holly"  Al's voice suits Buddy's material...
or Al maybe covering John Phillips material.. (he must of had a pile of songs kicking around when he died wouldn't have he?)

It just seems that for this amount of time 10 songs ( ok, sort of 12) including some rather common covers seems so rather unsatisfying
after all these years.. ???


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Wirestone on June 26, 2010, 09:53:24 AM
Apple stuff Isn't lossless, but they bumped up the bit rate a year or so ago to 256kbs, and nothing is copy protected anymore, which means you can covert songs to whatever you'd like. Digital booklets are often available, too. They used to sell albums as a flat 9.99, regardless of the number of tracks, but I think that has changed for new releases.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Myk Luhv on June 26, 2010, 01:14:14 PM
I thought it was possible to opt for Apple Lossless stuff from iTunes? I personally wouldn't know because I don't use it but this is what I understand... even if Apple Lossless is terrible compared to FLAC, APE or even Shorten!

Al should've released this album on Smithsonian Folkways; it could be marketed as an archival, historic document -- and they do on-demand CD pressings too as they're not concerned with pushing product! :lol


Title: Re: Al Jardine's
Post by: Awesoman on June 26, 2010, 01:22:13 PM
I don't think you get mp3s when you download something at itunes, I think you get something like .m4a.

You're right - actually, they're AAC files, "m4a" is the "container". But my point stands - they're lossy.

From my understanding, AAC files compress better than MP3 format.  And since iTunes standard bit-rate is 256 kbps, chances are you're not going to notice the compression.  I never have.  Would be nice if you could download in a lossless format though.  Considering the amount of space iPods can hold, this option shouldn't be that far down the road...


Title: Re: Al Jardine's
Post by: Awesoman on June 26, 2010, 01:24:13 PM
I'll  speculate it's all down to Al's ego.  No label wanted the record so, by going strictly iTunes, it's under the radar that there is no label/CD release.  If he released it himself on CD, all would see there was no major label.

He was offered a deal by a major label at roughly the same time as Brian was for TLOS, but decided against it. From what I've heard of it, one way and another, it's a good album. Snag is, after over three years of stalling and postponing, no-one outside of the BB fan world is really that interested. As someone pointed out, "more guests than tracks".

I think having special guests on the album may be the "selling point" for Al.  No one is expecting anything major with the music itself.  Although "Don't Fight The Sea" has gotten good marks and I'm liking the song "Drivin'".  I'm looking forward to hearing this album. 


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Jason on June 26, 2010, 02:43:32 PM
12 tracks... and two of them are link (short) tracks... 10 tracks with 3 of them being covers...
7 tracks... and 3 of those are BB out-takes from the 70's..
so there are 4 tracks that are new that Al gives us since 1980...
3 "New" songs in 30 years....  ::)

For what it's worth, And I Always Will, assuming you include it with the 4 "new" tracks, was originally tracked in 1984-85 during the '85 album sessions.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Steve Mayo on June 26, 2010, 05:32:01 PM
as of this writing al's lp is at position 258 on amazon's best selling list and number 25 on its classic rock chart.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: kirt on June 27, 2010, 06:23:34 AM
 Al's at number 10 in "best sellers in general" whatever that means...?

Go Big Al!


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Don_Zabu on June 27, 2010, 08:53:28 AM
Al Jardine's album is ranked #169 in Music bestsellers.

Brian Wilson's album is ranked #372.

What does this say?


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: the captain on June 27, 2010, 09:07:29 AM
That Mr. Jardine's album ranks 203 spots above Mr. Wilson's, and that neither is approaching major chart success at the moment.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Matt H on June 27, 2010, 09:19:20 AM
Al Jardine's album is ranked #169 in Music bestsellers.

Brian Wilson's album is ranked #372.

What does this say?

It will be interesting to see where in ranks in about a week.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Jon Stebbins on June 27, 2010, 11:26:27 AM
Al Jardine's album is ranked #169 in Music bestsellers.

Brian Wilson's album is ranked #372.

What does this say?
Dennis Wilson's POB Legacy edition was ranked #2 on Amazon on the day of its release in 2008...so it says both of them have a big climb to match that.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: adamghost on June 27, 2010, 03:10:08 PM
I had two albums ranked in amazon's top 40 best sellers, in 2008 and 2009.  It doesn't take as many sales to rank that highly as you might think it does.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on June 28, 2010, 12:59:11 AM
I had two albums ranked in amazon's top 40 best sellers, in 2008 and 2009.  It doesn't take as many sales to rank that highly as you might think it does.

Now that amazes me, as in 2009 you were outselling The Beatles on amazon.com for a while.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Foster's Freeze on June 28, 2010, 06:13:20 AM
Fair weather fans?


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Awesoman on June 28, 2010, 07:07:54 AM
Wondering why Al's new version of "California Dreamin'" didn't make it on the album.  Not that we really needed another version of this, but the stripped down version with David Crosby assisting with vocals was kind of nice.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: roll plymouth rock on June 28, 2010, 02:07:42 PM
If you like Al Jardine, odds are you like his voice, his folky-folksy sound with occasional quirky production, or are intrigued by elves.
:lol


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: adamghost on June 28, 2010, 04:30:12 PM
I had two albums ranked in amazon's top 40 best sellers, in 2008 and 2009.  It doesn't take as many sales to rank that highly as you might think it does.

Now that amazes me, as in 2009 you were outselling The Beatles on amazon.com for a while.

...for a day or two.  Now I'm back to covering them!  :)


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on June 29, 2010, 02:27:07 AM
Downloaded it this morning... well worth £7 to hear Alan's voice alone - it's astonishing to think he's 68 this September. But that's not all, there are many other nice touches. Perhaps oddly, the track I'll end up playing least will almost certainly be his reimagining of "Rhonda": sorry, doesn't work for me. Much prefer the rejigged "California Saga" with Neil Young as close to tuneful as he's been for several decades. I'll post my extended thoughts here later, but one observation I have to make - sweet as the whole song is, the intro to "San Simeon" is close enough to the intro melody of "Don't Worry, Baby" to make even Brian go "hmmmmmmmmmm..."  :)


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Rocker on June 29, 2010, 06:37:07 AM
Could anyone post the guestlist and who is on which track? Would be great.
The samples sound very good. Will buy it properly on the weekend when I'm at home

Cool time for Beach Boys-fans. New Brian-track, Alan's album.... what's next? ;)


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on June 29, 2010, 06:47:38 AM
Could anyone post the guestlist and who is on which track? Would be great.
The samples sound very good. Will buy it properly on the weekend when I'm at home

Cool time for Beach Boys-fans. New Brian-track, Alan's album.... what's next? ;)

World peace, of course. And candy bars.  :woot


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Foster's Freeze on June 29, 2010, 06:57:42 AM
The downloaded version from iTunes includes the digital booklet / liner notes which are a nice touch.

FYI, there is no Dennis on the disc - the credits for DFTS include Carl, Brian, Mike, Bruce, Ed Carter, Mike Meros and Bobby Figueroa (among others).


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on June 29, 2010, 07:01:06 AM
The downloaded version from iTunes includes the digital booklet / liner notes which are a nice touch.

Crap - time for me to have a sharp word with amazon.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Foster's Freeze on June 29, 2010, 07:16:38 AM
I know a lot of people don't care for the new version of Rhonda but if you forget about the corny video that goes along with it, I think it is a nice "cover" of the song.  Heavy on piano and harmonica, it doesn't really sound like the original version and that's a good thing.  It sounds like a bunch of guys jamming at a party.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: PongHit on June 29, 2010, 12:05:23 PM
the track I'll end up playing least will almost certainly be his reimagining of "Rhonda": sorry, doesn't work for me.

Was he not singing from his heart?


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: GoofyJeff on June 29, 2010, 12:18:18 PM
he wasn't syncopated enough... and he didn't sing sexy Rhonda... 


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Don_Zabu on June 29, 2010, 12:50:05 PM
Why has nobody taken note of this on Wikipedia yet?


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: runnersdialzero on June 29, 2010, 12:52:38 PM
VERY dissapointing news.  >:( I've been waiting for this album for years and as soon as there's a physical release, I'll be the first to get it. But as long as it's a digital release only: screw it. I'm not paying for digital files or a CD-recordable.

Who said it would just be MP3s burned to CD?


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on June 29, 2010, 01:02:48 PM
VERY dissapointing news.  >:( I've been waiting for this album for years and as soon as there's a physical release, I'll be the first to get it. But as long as it's a digital release only: screw it. I'm not paying for digital files or a CD-recordable.

Who said it would just be MP3s burned to CD?

Er... the amazon.com website ?


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: GoofyJeff on June 29, 2010, 01:05:54 PM
VERY dissapointing news.  >:( I've been waiting for this album for years and as soon as there's a physical release, I'll be the first to get it. But as long as it's a digital release only: screw it. I'm not paying for digital files or a CD-recordable.

Who said it would just be MP3s burned to CD?

Er... the amazon.com website ?

The way I read the Amazon description was that they do have access to the master files and then burn those to CD.

Quote from: Amazon
What are CD-R and DVD-R media?

CD-Rs and DVD-Rs (the "R" stands for "recordable") look like the discs you're used to and offer the same audio and image quality. This recordable media is used to manufacture titles on demand, as fully authorized by the content provider.

Through manufacturing on demand, CreateSpace, part of the Amazon.com group of companies, enables Amazon.com to offer music and video content that might not otherwise be available. Each disc comes fully packaged, with artwork, in a standard jewel case for audio and an Amaray case for video, although for reissued products the artwork may differ from the original.

CreateSpace works with many of the leading music labels, television networks, film studios, and other distributors to make these titles available to Amazon.com customers. All products are manufactured from original source materials (e.g., for audio products, uncompressed CD-quality audio).

By eliminating inventory, waste, and inefficiencies in the distribution system, on-demand manufacturing provides the added benefit of helping preserve the environment.

When shopping, you'll see CD-R or DVD-R on the product detail page for such products. Amazon.com's standard return policy applies to these purchases.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Paulos on June 29, 2010, 02:35:55 PM
Could anyone post the guestlist and who is on which track? Would be great.
The samples sound very good. Will buy it properly on the weekend when I'm at home

Cool time for Beach Boys-fans. New Brian-track, Alan's album.... what's next? ;)

David's new album is out September 1st, cool time for Beach Boys fans indeed!


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Aegir on June 29, 2010, 05:47:53 PM
Why has nobody taken note of this on Wikipedia yet?
The great thing about Wikipedia is that anyone can edit it... even you.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: runnersdialzero on June 29, 2010, 08:19:08 PM
VERY dissapointing news.  >:( I've been waiting for this album for years and as soon as there's a physical release, I'll be the first to get it. But as long as it's a digital release only: screw it. I'm not paying for digital files or a CD-recordable.

Who said it would just be MP3s burned to CD?

Er... the amazon.com website ?

The way I read the Amazon description was that they do have access to the master files and then burn those to CD.

Quote from: Amazon
What are CD-R and DVD-R media?

CD-Rs and DVD-Rs (the "R" stands for "recordable") look like the discs you're used to and offer the same audio and image quality. This recordable media is used to manufacture titles on demand, as fully authorized by the content provider.

Through manufacturing on demand, CreateSpace, part of the Amazon.com group of companies, enables Amazon.com to offer music and video content that might not otherwise be available. Each disc comes fully packaged, with artwork, in a standard jewel case for audio and an Amaray case for video, although for reissued products the artwork may differ from the original.

CreateSpace works with many of the leading music labels, television networks, film studios, and other distributors to make these titles available to Amazon.com customers. All products are manufactured from original source materials (e.g., for audio products, uncompressed CD-quality audio).

By eliminating inventory, waste, and inefficiencies in the distribution system, on-demand manufacturing provides the added benefit of helping preserve the environment.

When shopping, you'll see CD-R or DVD-R on the product detail page for such products. Amazon.com's standard return policy applies to these purchases.


yeh d00d. Doesn't sound like MP3 to CD, sounds like lossy source to CD. Sounds good enough to me.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: dharmasong on June 30, 2010, 12:14:32 PM
Could anyone post the guestlist and who is on which track? Would be great.


Yes.  I would like someone (ANYONE!) to *please* post the track credits!   I got the Amazon.



Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Myk Luhv on June 30, 2010, 12:31:30 PM
VERY dissapointing news.  >:( I've been waiting for this album for years and as soon as there's a physical release, I'll be the first to get it. But as long as it's a digital release only: screw it. I'm not paying for digital files or a CD-recordable.

Who said it would just be MP3s burned to CD?

Er... the amazon.com website ?

The way I read the Amazon description was that they do have access to the master files and then burn those to CD.

Quote from: Amazon
What are CD-R and DVD-R media?

CD-Rs and DVD-Rs (the "R" stands for "recordable") look like the discs you're used to and offer the same audio and image quality. This recordable media is used to manufacture titles on demand, as fully authorized by the content provider.

Through manufacturing on demand, CreateSpace, part of the Amazon.com group of companies, enables Amazon.com to offer music and video content that might not otherwise be available. Each disc comes fully packaged, with artwork, in a standard jewel case for audio and an Amaray case for video, although for reissued products the artwork may differ from the original.

CreateSpace works with many of the leading music labels, television networks, film studios, and other distributors to make these titles available to Amazon.com customers. All products are manufactured from original source materials (e.g., for audio products, uncompressed CD-quality audio).

By eliminating inventory, waste, and inefficiencies in the distribution system, on-demand manufacturing provides the added benefit of helping preserve the environment.

When shopping, you'll see CD-R or DVD-R on the product detail page for such products. Amazon.com's standard return policy applies to these purchases.


yeh d00d. Doesn't sound like MP3 to CD, sounds like lossy source to CD. Sounds good enough to me.

MP3s are lossy, and if that is what was put onto the CD then it is indeed lossy-sourced audio you're getting. What an abysmal practice.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Rocky on June 30, 2010, 03:14:59 PM
Quote
Could anyone post the guestlist and who is on which track? Would be great.



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Yes.  I would like someone (ANYONE!) to *please* post the track credits!   I got the Amazon.

agreed


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Wrightfan on June 30, 2010, 03:43:52 PM
Quote
Could anyone post the guestlist and who is on which track? Would be great.



Quote
Yes.  I would like someone (ANYONE!) to *please* post the track credits!   I got the Amazon.

agreed

Happy to oblige for the vocals. Let me know if you want any others:
A Postcard from California-Glen Campbell, Al, Emily Polie, Paul Logan, Luana Pedota, Sally Deworsky
California Feelin-Al, Matt Jardine, Adam Jardine, Scott Slaughter, Stevie Heiger
Lookin' Down the Coast-Just Al
Don't Fight the Sea-Al, Carl, Brian, Mike, Bruce, Matt Jardine, Adam Jardine, Scott Matthews
Interlude-Alec Baldwin
Campfire Scene-David Crosby, Neil Young, The Hillbillies (Credited as "indigenous types who hung around studio" lol.)
A California Saga-Al, Neil Young, David Crosby, Stephen Stills, Adam Jardine, Matt Jardine.
Help me Rhonda-Al, Steve Miller, Matt Jardine
San Simeon-Al, Gerry Beckley, Dewey Brunell, Matt Jardine, Adam Jardine
Drivin'-Al, Brian, Gerry Beckley, Dewey Brunell
Honkin' Down the Highway-Al, Brian, Matt Jardine, Adam Jardine
And I Always Will-Just Al


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Loaf on June 30, 2010, 03:51:51 PM
What happened to Al & David Crosby's cover of California Dreamin'?

From the sound samples I heard on Al's website over the years, that was one of the ones I was most looking forward to. Crosby's velvety vocals and sparse percussion really made the cover worthwhile in my opinion.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: oldsurferdude on June 30, 2010, 04:58:33 PM
Be careful what you wish for-he may have used autotune and you know what that means. ::)


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Jason on June 30, 2010, 06:48:10 PM
The California Dreamin' cover will come out on the physical release as a bonus track, so whoever already bought the iTunes/Amazon version is gonna have to buy it again. :)


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: runnersdialzero on June 30, 2010, 10:18:35 PM
Be careful what you wish for-he may have used autotune and you know what that means. ::)

I'm eating your children in my dreams.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Eric Aniversario on July 01, 2010, 12:09:23 AM
The California Dreamin' cover will come out on the physical release as a bonus track, so whoever already bought the iTunes/Amazon version is gonna have to buy it again. :)
I'm not sure if you're serious or joking...this is the first I've heard of this...where did you hear that?  I haven't bought either, but I was about to buy the CD-R.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Steve Mayo on July 01, 2010, 08:44:35 AM
just got al's cd from amazon. it came with the booklet. in fact, the cd looks like any cd one would bring home from the store.
now to give it a listen.....


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Rocker on July 01, 2010, 01:16:27 PM
Quote
Could anyone post the guestlist and who is on which track? Would be great.



Quote
Yes.  I would like someone (ANYONE!) to *please* post the track credits!   I got the Amazon.

agreed

Happy to oblige for the vocals. Let me know if you want any others:
A Postcard from California-Glen Campbell, Al, Emily Polie, Paul Logan, Luana Pedota, Sally Deworsky
California Feelin-Al, Matt Jardine, Adam Jardine, Scott Slaughter, Stevie Heiger
Lookin' Down the Coast-Just Al
Don't Fight the Sea-Al, Carl, Brian, Mike, Bruce, Matt Jardine, Adam Jardine, Scott Matthews
Interlude-Alec Baldwin
Campfire Scene-David Crosby, Neil Young, The Hillbillies (Credited as "indigenous types who hung around studio" lol.)
A California Saga-Al, Neil Young, David Crosby, Stephen Stills, Adam Jardine, Matt Jardine.
Help me Rhonda-Al, Steve Miller, Matt Jardine
San Simeon-Al, Gerry Beckley, Dewey Brunell, Matt Jardine, Adam Jardine
Drivin'-Al, Brian, Gerry Beckley, Dewey Brunell
Honkin' Down the Highway-Al, Brian, Matt Jardine, Adam Jardine
And I Always Will-Just Al


Thank you !


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Awesoman on July 01, 2010, 02:19:14 PM
The California Dreamin' cover will come out on the physical release as a bonus track, so whoever already bought the iTunes/Amazon version is gonna have to buy it again. :)

I dunno if I really wish to buy it again, but I wouldn't mind having a physical release.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Awesoman on July 01, 2010, 02:21:50 PM
Quote
Could anyone post the guestlist and who is on which track? Would be great.



Quote
Yes.  I would like someone (ANYONE!) to *please* post the track credits!   I got the Amazon.

agreed

Happy to oblige for the vocals. Let me know if you want any others:
A Postcard from California-Glen Campbell, Al, Emily Polie, Paul Logan, Luana Pedota, Sally Deworsky
California Feelin-Al, Matt Jardine, Adam Jardine, Scott Slaughter, Stevie Heiger
Lookin' Down the Coast-Just Al
Don't Fight the Sea-Al, Carl, Brian, Mike, Bruce, Matt Jardine, Adam Jardine, Scott Matthews
Interlude-Alec Baldwin
Campfire Scene-David Crosby, Neil Young, The Hillbillies (Credited as "indigenous types who hung around studio" lol.)
A California Saga-Al, Neil Young, David Crosby, Stephen Stills, Adam Jardine, Matt Jardine.
Help me Rhonda-Al, Steve Miller, Matt Jardine
San Simeon-Al, Gerry Beckley, Dewey Brunell, Matt Jardine, Adam Jardine
Drivin'-Al, Brian, Gerry Beckley, Dewey Brunell
Honkin' Down the Highway-Al, Brian, Matt Jardine, Adam Jardine
And I Always Will-Just Al


BTW - You can download the booklet for this album on Al Jardine's very own website...he actually updated it for the iTunes release!!


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: dharmasong on July 01, 2010, 02:23:46 PM
Yes, thank you.  But, alas, that's just vocals..... what about backing tracks?  

Songwriting Credits, too, father?


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Jason on July 01, 2010, 05:16:49 PM
The California Dreamin' cover will come out on the physical release as a bonus track, so whoever already bought the iTunes/Amazon version is gonna have to buy it again. :)
I'm not sure if you're serious or joking...this is the first I've heard of this...where did you hear that?  I haven't bought either, but I was about to buy the CD-R.

I'm joking...but with the Beach Boys world, much truth is said in jest.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Eric Aniversario on July 02, 2010, 12:02:25 AM
The California Dreamin' cover will come out on the physical release as a bonus track, so whoever already bought the iTunes/Amazon version is gonna have to buy it again. :)
I'm not sure if you're serious or joking...this is the first I've heard of this...where did you hear that?  I haven't bought either, but I was about to buy the CD-R.

I'm joking...but with the Beach Boys world, much truth is said in jest.

Thanks for clarifying.  You're right...that was a joke, but a VERY believable one!  :-D


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Tony S on July 02, 2010, 05:33:35 AM
I arrived home last night to find both A Postcard From California and the new ESQ CD. Enjoyed listening to both. I like Al's new CD; yes, nothing earth shattering, but very nice vocals and music, and the song sequencing is pretty good too. I think he used the guest stars well; nothing over the top.  Would like to hear him do more of an acoustic CD, it would lend well to his voice, which still sounds good after all these years. On a scale of 1 to 10, I'd give it a 7-8.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Louie Napoli on July 02, 2010, 11:32:42 AM
So what does it mean when a fan since 1964 is just hearing about this release now? Yikes am I losing interest? Maybe losing my mind? Blame Tom Petty and his Mojo I guess ::)


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Foster's Freeze on July 02, 2010, 12:34:07 PM
On Al's page there is a short video of Al with Alec Baldwin during the "Tidepool Interlude" recording.

http://www.aljardine.com/video.html


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: b00ts on July 02, 2010, 11:26:13 PM
I must say, I really dig "Postcard."  It's interesting to see Al in charge - he has a style of his own. Sure, it has plenty of remakes, but the new songs, both brand-new and re-vamped unreleased tracks, are very high quality. The remakes actually fit so well with the new material that I have a newfound respect for Al's ability to make a cohesive piece of work.  The production is not sterile like I expected it to be.

Overall, it makes me wish he had come out with a solo album much sooner! It also makes me hope for another Jardine album. The guests add to the album without taking the focus off of Al too much. The ending of "Honkin' Down the Highway" is so wacked that it makes me wonder if Al could be a creative genius-in-disguise... or at least if he is indulging in his state's medical marijuana program.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Eric Aniversario on July 02, 2010, 11:32:35 PM
The ending of "Honkin' Down the Highway" is so wacked that it makes me wonder if Al could be a creative genius-in-disguise... or at least if he is indulging in his state's medical marijuana program.
On the ESQ CD, "Honkin" and "Drivin" are both on there, but Honkin is first, and segues into Drivin.  The ending still sounds awkward, but makes much more sense when Drivin starts. 


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: JaredLekites on July 03, 2010, 02:02:55 AM
The ending of "Honkin' Down the Highway" is so wacked that it makes me wonder if Al could be a creative genius-in-disguise... or at least if he is indulging in his state's medical marijuana program.
On the ESQ CD, "Honkin" and "Drivin" are both on there, but Honkin is first, and segues into Drivin.  The ending still sounds awkward, but makes much more sense when Drivin starts. 
Yeah, I kind of like the sequencing of those two tracks better on the ESQ disc (even if the ESQ disc has slightly different mixes).


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Dave in KC on July 03, 2010, 02:29:37 PM
I really like APFC. Yes, CD is sorely missed. He coulda, woulda, shoulda included it. It's like a deluxe hamburger without cheese.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Matt H on July 03, 2010, 04:10:26 PM
On Al's page there is a short video of Al with Alec Baldwin during the "Tidepool Interlude" recording.

http://www.aljardine.com/video.html


With Baldwin wearing a suit, it seems even more like Jack Donague from 30 Rock.  I hope he posts more videos on the site.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Wirestone on July 03, 2010, 04:13:26 PM
Can we just all agree, by the way, that the Alec Baldwin thing is ridiculous?

It's the one (to my mind) serious misstep on the album. It is the kind of thing that goes viral on the web -- because it's so laughably bad.

"Waves of majesty move through me majestically" indeed.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Sam_BFC on July 03, 2010, 05:46:35 PM
I kind of agree but he does have a very warm voice though. 'California...California; you are everything to me'.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Wirestone on July 03, 2010, 06:12:11 PM
I think the phrase that comes to mind is "Shatner-esque."

It's better than that, of course, and if Baldwin hadn't been in a sitcom for the last four years that makes great fun of his portentousness, the piece might have just been mildly annoying.

But instead, it's funny.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on July 04, 2010, 12:38:19 AM
Can we just all agree, by the way, that the Alec Baldwin thing is ridiculous?

It's the one (to my mind) serious misstep on the album. It is the kind of thing that goes viral on the web -- because it's so laughably bad.

"Waves of majesty move through me majestically" indeed.

On the surface, yes, and there was a time when I would have agreed, but as with anyone who gets to know Stevie Kalinich, once you realise that the sentiment in the words comes straight from his heart & soul (not unlike Dennis), then you look at it differently.

That said, I defy anyone who's seen Team America to ever take Alec seriously again.  ;D


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Loaf on July 04, 2010, 09:13:45 AM
Alec Baldwin does a great job as the narrator to The Royal Tenenbaums.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Aegir on July 04, 2010, 09:29:39 AM
I've never seen 30 Rock. The only thing I associate Alec Baldwin's voice is when he introduces the New York Philharmonic on the radio. I don't really have a problem with the track.

Keep in mind, my favorite song on Holland is Beaks of Eagles.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: phirnis on July 04, 2010, 09:52:06 AM
I like the Baldwin track. It's sort of cheesy (I don't mind), but otherwise it's not that different from the TLOS narratives.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on July 04, 2010, 10:21:54 AM
The thing I love about the TLOS is that, no matter how many times you play them, you still get the feeling that Brian's gonna go off-script. Just something in his inflection and cadence.  ;D


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: TdHabib on July 04, 2010, 02:10:11 PM
The plan originally was to have VDP recite the narrations---and that would've been mighty cool. Oh well, still a great album.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on July 04, 2010, 03:09:05 PM
Overall, I like the album. The one big problem I have is with some of the lyrics. Example:

"And out at the rock
There came such a sight
A lighthouse keeper's house
And lighthouse light"

The song was originally written in 1978 - after 32 years, I can't believe no-one could come up with something less clunky.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: TdHabib on July 04, 2010, 03:19:14 PM
The plan originally was to have VDP recite the narrations---and that would've been mighty cool. Oh well, still a great album.
In case there was any confusion, I was referring to the TLOS narratives and album. I think that album is great. Postcard is very good.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Wirestone on July 04, 2010, 03:26:17 PM
My husband is making incessant fun of "it's been so long / since I've had a woman's breast / To lay my head on."

Head or hand, Al? :-D


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Wirestone on July 04, 2010, 03:29:29 PM
Also, for such a pretty tune, the words to "And I always will" are painfully trite.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: TdHabib on July 04, 2010, 03:56:04 PM
Also, for such a pretty tune, the words to "And I always will" are painfully trite.
That song actually does nothing for me. Reminds me too much of "Winds of Change" in it's overall characteristic.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: donald on July 04, 2010, 05:59:21 PM
just got al's cd from amazon. it came with the booklet. in fact, the cd looks like any cd one would bring home from the store.
now to give it a listen.....

So.  How are the graphics?  Does it have the cool stuff of Phifer Beach and such as was on the website a few months back?


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: tpesky on July 04, 2010, 09:57:22 PM
I'm sure the song was written about Al's wife, but I don't know why  the whole song to me gives me the vibe about Al's experience with the Beach Boys and the idea that he always will be a Beach Boy, especially that middle verse: "We gave our all, there are times I don't care to recall.  It reaches me way more as someone looking back on doing something they loved and being a part of, as opposed to a love song.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Eric Aniversario on July 04, 2010, 11:29:19 PM
The plan originally was to have VDP recite the narrations---and that would've been mighty cool. Oh well, still a great album.
I had never thought of that before, but that would have made the album even better than it already is.  (Talking about TLOS)


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Smilin Ed H on July 05, 2010, 12:16:19 AM
"The plan originally was to have VDP recite the narrations---and that would've been mighty cool."  Oooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, dunno about that.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Loaf on July 05, 2010, 03:13:19 AM
How about if TLOS has featured dialogue between BW and VDP...say along the lines of the Smile-era Psychedelic talk, "Smog" etc...

"Hey you, get off my property!"


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Jason on July 05, 2010, 07:59:03 AM
I'm sure the song was written about Al's wife, but I don't know why  the whole song to me gives me the vibe about Al's experience with the Beach Boys and the idea that he always will be a Beach Boy, especially that middle verse: "We gave our all, there are times I don't care to recall.  It reaches me way more as someone looking back on doing something they loved and being a part of, as opposed to a love song.

If it's about Al's wife...he must have been pretty sure of his committment to her in 1985 when he wrote the song! They had been married, what, like two years at that point? Unless he rewrote the lyrics for Postcard.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Peadar 'Big Dinner' O'Driscoll on July 05, 2010, 09:56:09 AM
This guys review sums up how I feel about this album - http://andrewhickey.info/2010/07/03/al-jardine-a-postcard-from-california/

Though I think Glen Campbell and Stevel Milllers voices sound pretty pretty good.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Smilin Ed H on July 05, 2010, 10:12:06 AM
Dr Who fan , uh?


Title: Re: Al Jardine's
Post by: The Shift on July 05, 2010, 02:40:51 PM
Dr Who fan , uh?

There's a few of us here!


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Aegir on July 06, 2010, 07:14:34 AM
I'm sure the song was written about Al's wife, but I don't know why  the whole song to me gives me the vibe about Al's experience with the Beach Boys and the idea that he always will be a Beach Boy, especially that middle verse: "We gave our all, there are times I don't care to recall.  It reaches me way more as someone looking back on doing something they loved and being a part of, as opposed to a love song.

If it's about Al's wife...he must have been pretty sure of his committment to her in 1985 when he wrote the song! They had been married, what, like two years at that point? Unless he rewrote the lyrics for Postcard.

Theoretically, he should've been sure before they got married...


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: tpesky on July 06, 2010, 11:50:14 AM
I kind of fall in line with this review as well, I believe the album is better than Mike or Carl's solo efforts as a whole. I think it is very Al for sure. It is so good to hear his voice again. (I agree with him about Glen Campbell-whose voice has aged not so well) California Feeling has been a nice surprise and is the best of the 3 versions I have heard by far. But like alot of later good Brian songs....it is one verse too short! (This Whole World, It's Ok, and Good Timin also have this syndrome) I keep going back to California Feeling, California Saga, and And I Always Will when I play it, mixing in Honking, Drivin, and San Simeon occassionally. 


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Jason on July 06, 2010, 06:12:51 PM

If it's about Al's wife...he must have been pretty sure of his committment to her in 1985 when he wrote the song! They had been married, what, like two years at that point? Unless he rewrote the lyrics for Postcard.

Theoretically, he should've been sure before they got married...

He's American.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: donald on July 06, 2010, 09:38:59 PM
I enjoyed hearing the entire album.  Thanks to a friend who helped me connect with it   ::)

Not like the old days of going to the record store.  The CD section of Borders is down to a small fraction of what it was.

Beachboys fans living at this address were quite impressed.  Yeah, a lot of "guests" but it worked.  Not strained like giomh guest appearances.  It seemed genuine and good spirited.   A very nice and much appreciated effort to the ears and spirit of this fan of the Beach Boys.  Kudos to Al Jardine for  seeing this through.  I will put this in rotation with TLOS.  The Beach Boys thrive into their 7th decade!!!!


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on July 07, 2010, 01:26:41 AM
The Beach Boys thrive into their 7th decade!!!!

I take it math wasn't your strong suit in college.  ;D


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Les Chan on July 07, 2010, 10:40:07 PM
I have been enjoying Al's album.   Glad its finally out and getting positive reviews from so many people.  His voice hasn't changed that much since the mid- 70s.   Kudos to Al, Stevie Heger and Scott Slaughter for putting out a very good listenable album. 


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: donald on July 09, 2010, 09:23:56 PM
The Beach Boys thrive into their 7th decade!!!!

I take it math wasn't your strong suit in college.  ;D

I was referring to their average age, not their time together as a band!


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on July 10, 2010, 12:30:17 AM
The Beach Boys thrive into their 7th decade!!!!

I take it math wasn't your strong suit in college.  ;D

I was referring to their average age, not their time together as a band!

Neat save.  :)


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Don_Zabu on July 11, 2010, 12:25:10 AM
Is this going to get a thread in the "Other Solo Albums" section of the forums or what?


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Paulos on July 11, 2010, 12:51:38 AM
Is this going to get a thread in the "Other Solo Albums" section of the forums or what?

I was wondering about that, it would be good and only proper to have Blondie's solo albums and David's second solo album in there too.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: ESQ Editor on July 12, 2010, 01:47:57 PM
Review here: http://endlesssummerquarterly.blogspot.com/


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Smilin Ed H on July 14, 2010, 09:35:17 AM
I've been this a good listening over the past few days and I have to say how impressed I am with most of it, particularly the first 'side'. Don't like the ending to Honkin' however, and wish he'd included California Dreamin' and maybe updated Santa Ana Winds.  Great to hear a song with Beach Boys vocals. Can't help think Mike's nasal tones would've fitted well on the bridge on Drivin'.  So we'll have another in maybe 30 years or so...?


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Smilin Ed H on July 14, 2010, 01:16:51 PM
What's said at the end of Help Me, Rhonda? "Crap song?"


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: SurfRiderHawaii on September 08, 2010, 05:12:24 PM
New interview with Al

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mike-ragogna/ema-postcard-from-califor_b_697112.html

AJ: I would just love to see everyone look forward to this big legacy anniversary of my team mates from the old days,
 and there's going to be a big, free concert sometime next year to celebrate the 50th anniversary of The Beach Boys.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: jimmyboy on October 05, 2010, 04:22:54 PM
I must apologize and eat sh@t... I have badmouthed Al's "Postcard From Calif.." since rough tracks appeared on-line nearly 2 years ago.  said it was crap and would not shut up about it. I was at a pal's place over the weekend and he put it on not knowing about my feelings. Well I was blown away and went to Amoeba and bought it. The finished product far outshines the tracks that I  had heard earlier. The weakest song is "Drivin" but it kinda of grew on me in a Jan & Dean sort of way. Al has a great ear for harmony. He's a folkie all the way as well. All the other songs are great too. Buy it! ;D


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: shelter on October 05, 2010, 04:52:08 PM
Is the hard copy CD still not out yet?


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: shelter on November 18, 2010, 03:25:03 PM
Still no news about a release date for the hard copy? Guess that's not gonna happen then...


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: bgas on November 18, 2010, 03:36:47 PM
Still no news about a release date for the hard copy? Guess that's not gonna happen then...

It's happening. Al's all set to make the announcement( his sense of time is different than all others)
It's going to be a special bonus CD for the Beach Boys 50th anniversary package.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's
Post by: The Shift on November 18, 2010, 04:34:45 PM
Still no news about a release date for the hard copy? Guess that's not gonna happen then...

It's happening. Al's all set to make the announcement( his sense of time is different than all others)
It's going to be a special bonus CD for the Beach Boys 50th anniversary package.

.... in 2025.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's
Post by: bgas on November 18, 2010, 04:39:44 PM
Still no news about a release date for the hard copy? Guess that's not gonna happen then...

It's happening. Al's all set to make the announcement( his sense of time is different than all others)
It's going to be a special bonus CD for the Beach Boys 50th anniversary package.

.... in 2025.

Or maybe 2525( if Mike is still alive)


Title: Re: Al Jardine's
Post by: SloopJohnB on November 19, 2010, 07:16:10 AM
Or maybe 2525( if Mike is still alive)

 :lol


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Peter Reum on November 21, 2010, 11:02:23 AM
Just wanted to say that I found this album enjoyable, with Don,t Fight the Sea being a nice treat. Alan is talented and has taste. The album was on my player for several weeks....


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: dexyman on November 24, 2010, 04:45:19 PM
Sorry if this has already been mentioned, but Postcard is only 5 bucks on Amazon right now.  A great deal because it although it looks a bit homemade, it certainly feels like a legit release with artwork and all.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Smilin Ed H on November 25, 2010, 09:38:42 AM
And it's a pretty decent CD too, with three or four great tracks.  If you haven't got, buy it.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's
Post by: The Shift on November 25, 2010, 11:41:11 AM
Sorry if this has already been mentioned, but Postcard is only 5 bucks on Amazon right now.  A great deal because it although it looks a bit homemade, it certainly feels like a legit release with artwork and all.

Many thanks for the tip - have acted!


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: TonyW on June 28, 2012, 01:54:16 PM
I'm dragging this thread back up from the deep because I've come to this little gem only recently. I have to say that this is a great listen but I wish Al had pushed the 'California' theme a bit harder and taken us on a historical and geographic journey of California - drop Rhonda, Honkin' and Always Will and include Its  A Beautiful Day, Santa Anna Winds, Cottonfields (play with the lyrics to reference California), even write some new songs about Redwoods, wilderness and rivers (Al does that well) or even do a few more covers, drag the America guys back into Red Barn and do their Everyone I Meets From California and it would have been a much more cohesive album. Thankfully with a little bit of playlist jockeying on the ipod the album flows together very nicely.

Would also like to see a post C50 Al take this concept on the road, California songs, originals, Beach Boys tracks and covers such as Cali Dreaming or the afore mention Everybody I Meet, etc.

Do Al, do it!


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: Zach95 on June 28, 2012, 02:04:16 PM
I bought this gem for $15 at a concert, with a wonderful signature! What a deal! I haven't really dug into it, but I'm liking quite a bit so far.


Title: Re: Al Jardine's \
Post by: donald on June 28, 2012, 05:49:16 PM
This blends nicely as an extender for the new album.  CA Feeling, Cal Saga material, Honkin,  Don't fight the Sea.....Lookin down the coast.....

makes a very nice personal playlist of recent BB material

Try it you'll like it!