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Title: AGD or anyone else, SIP question...
Post by: analogdemon on February 18, 2006, 11:34:56 AM
When did it go out of print in the U.S. and U.K.?


Title: Re: AGD or anyone else, SIP question...
Post by: Jason on February 18, 2006, 11:38:38 AM
It didn't stay in print long. I remember when the album came out, I didn't even see that many copies of it back in '92. I would say it didn't last past '93 or '94.


Title: Re: AGD or anyone else, SIP question...
Post by: Beckner on February 18, 2006, 11:42:49 AM
I wouldnt be surprised to learn that it was only pressed up the one time. X amount of copies and it never was pressed up again.


Title: Re: AGD or anyone else, SIP question...
Post by: Daniel S. on February 18, 2006, 07:33:46 PM
Damn shame.  ::)


Title: Re: AGD or anyone else, SIP question...
Post by: runalot on February 18, 2006, 10:05:36 PM
SIP?


Title: Re: AGD or anyone else, SIP question...
Post by: I. Spaceman on February 18, 2006, 10:06:27 PM
HAHA!


Title: Re: AGD or anyone else, SIP question...
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on February 18, 2006, 10:56:19 PM
I bought my copy in 1998. Full price.

On a totally unrelated note, I sold my copy for $1.00.


















Also in 1998.


Title: Re: AGD or anyone else, SIP question...
Post by: HeyJude on February 19, 2006, 01:40:42 PM
The album probably officially went "out of print" as soon as it was released. That means stores would continue to stock it as long as they cared to keep whatever copies they had in stock. Keep in mind that, as I understand it, the BB's released SIP differently than other albums on "Brother Records." Previously, they simply had their Brother label distributed by a major label (Warner, CBS, now Capitol). But with SIP, they apparently couldn't get a record deal or even a distribution deal through a label (strange considering that "Kokomo" and the "Still Cruisin'" album actually sold fairly well; "Still Cruisin'" went gold), so they actually distrubuted the SIP album themselves via "Brother Entertainment." You can hear them make jokes during the '93 Paramount Theatre show, things along the lines of "buy our new album and help finance our record company."

Just a few years ago, probably 2002 or so, I saw a brand new, sealed copy of the original US version (in that awkward packaging where the CD case is opened up and then shrink wrapped) at a Fry's Electronics store. The price tag on it looked kind of yellowed and old. It probably slipped behind a shelf somewhere for a few years and then got stuck back on the shelf. I've actually found a few items at Fry's that had been out of print for years, so maybe Fry's has some strange way of rotating old stock or something.


Title: Re: AGD or anyone else, SIP question...
Post by: Alan Boyd on February 19, 2006, 03:03:00 PM
The album was distributed by a small indie company called NAVARRE.  I don't think Brother did any of the actual distribution on the record.


Title: Re: AGD or anyone else, SIP question...
Post by: HeyJude on February 19, 2006, 11:37:18 PM
The album was distributed by a small indie company called NAVARRE.  I don't think Brother did any of the actual distribution on the record.

This certainly makes sense. I should have worded what I wrote a bit differently. I didn't really believe the BB's actually pressed the CD's and took orders for retailers themselves. They would have to somewhere to get the CD pressed, and go to a company to physically get the CD's in stores. But I think the setup was different from when, say, Caribou/CBS distributed the '85 album for Brother. I would guess they didn't "sign" with Navarre in the way that they signed with Warners or CBS. I would guess they simply paid Navarre to get the CD's into stores.

I've seen the "revised" version of SIP issued in the UK, and it had an EMI logo on it. Interesting that they got EMI to distribute the CD in the UK, but not in the US, considering EMI's own Capitol had put out a relatively successful album in "Still Cruisin'" only a few years earlier.


Title: Re: AGD or anyone else, SIP question...
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on February 20, 2006, 02:07:34 AM
I would guess they simply paid Navarre to get the CD's into stores.

Whatever they paid, it was too much.

Iffn I recall aright, Navarre distribution bod Ron Alexenburg became something in the BB's management shortly thereafter.


Title: Re: AGD or anyone else, SIP question...
Post by: analogdemon on February 20, 2006, 05:59:08 AM
Thanks for all the replies.  Interesting stuff.  To add to this, does anyone know when Stars & Stripes or Still Cruisin' went out of print?


Title: Re: AGD or anyone else, SIP question...
Post by: Charles LePage @ ComicList on February 20, 2006, 06:09:25 AM
Possibly related links:

http://www.navarre.com/search.aspx?SearchWhat=Keyword&SearchIn=&SearchFor=BEACH+BOYS&go.x=9&go.y=13

http://egoboard.com/viewtopic.php?p=15665&sid=cc26b974afe05fe7265225c6e09441fb