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Title: Some needed info on Andy Paley Post by: Charles LePage @ ComicList on February 18, 2006, 10:58:29 AM I'm putting together a Wilson/Paley Session -- BB Reunion timeline, and I need some info on Andy Paley I am missing:
1) I need to know what he said in an ESQ interview that upset the Wilson camp. 2) I need to know what Melinda posted about Paley on the BW message board. Title: Re: Some needed info on Andy Paley Post by: Jason on February 18, 2006, 11:00:37 AM I believe Andy took more credit for the tunes than he might have actually contributed, which didn't sit too well with Melinda. This was sometime around 2002.
Title: Re: Some needed info on Andy Paley Post by: Wirestone on February 18, 2006, 11:18:42 AM Don't think it was in ESQ. Think it was in an interview with the now-defunct "Pet Sounds" website in '99 or so. The webmaster of that site, Mike DeMartin, was shortly hired away to do the main BW site.
Title: Re: Some needed info on Andy Paley Post by: Charles LePage @ ComicList on February 18, 2006, 12:41:51 PM Oh, a copy of the interview with Sean O'Hagan from the UNCANNY site would be groovy, too. I think it's the one that describes Bruce's involvement in the project, and Mike's comments to Sean.
Title: Re: Some needed info on Andy Paley Post by: Charles LePage @ ComicList on February 18, 2006, 02:34:40 PM http://smileysmile.net/library/timeline.html
Title: Re: Some needed info on Andy Paley Post by: I. Spaceman on February 18, 2006, 02:38:08 PM The real reason Paley was excised from the BW camp can't be talked about publically, so take it all with a grain of salt.
Title: Re: Some needed info on Andy Paley Post by: Wirestone on February 18, 2006, 05:27:42 PM Oh Ian, don't tease us like that.
Title: Re: Some needed info on Andy Paley Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on February 18, 2006, 05:28:38 PM What...the...hell?
Title: Re: Some needed info on Andy Paley Post by: I. Spaceman on February 18, 2006, 05:42:13 PM I don't mean to tease anybody!
It's just to let you know that if the reasons given seem phony, it's because they are. And I can't remotely say on the board what the real story is, because I promised not to say. Sorry for the confusion. Title: Re: Some needed info on Andy Paley Post by: Jason on February 18, 2006, 05:44:23 PM Kinda reminds me of when I started receiving unbooted Beach Boys material. Those were good days. :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P
Title: Re: Some needed info on Andy Paley Post by: Charles LePage @ ComicList on February 18, 2006, 06:28:40 PM It can't be talked about publicly, but someone shared the true story with Ian. Where's the justice?
Title: Re: Some needed info on Andy Paley Post by: Charles LePage @ ComicList on February 18, 2006, 06:29:05 PM Kinda reminds me of when I started receiving unbooted Beach Boys material. Those were good days. :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P I'm still waiting for those days. Title: Re: Some needed info on Andy Paley Post by: I. Spaceman on February 18, 2006, 06:34:46 PM It can't be talked about publicly, but someone shared the true story with Ian. Where's the justice? Los Angeles isn't the public!!! ;D Title: Re: Some needed info on Andy Paley Post by: Jason on February 18, 2006, 06:35:27 PM Time to take this conversation to PMs, methinks.
Title: Re: Some needed info on Andy Paley Post by: I. Spaceman on February 18, 2006, 06:38:39 PM Nope. Won't tell anyone.
Title: Re: Some needed info on Andy Paley Post by: Jason on February 18, 2006, 06:39:56 PM I already know. I was talking to Charles.
Title: Re: Some needed info on Andy Paley Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on February 18, 2006, 06:40:08 PM I don't think he can do that. Besides, the truth eventually comes out anyway. Just wait a few years, and somebody will probably say something in an interview.
Title: Re: Some needed info on Andy Paley Post by: I. Spaceman on February 18, 2006, 06:41:10 PM Exactly.
Title: Re: Some needed info on Andy Paley Post by: Jason on February 18, 2006, 06:44:29 PM I actually have a confession to make. I knew about the BWPS issue back in 2002, at least six months before the official announcement. The first edition of the tracklist leaked out too. It ALL comes out eventually.
Title: Re: Some needed info on Andy Paley Post by: Joshilyn Hoisington on February 18, 2006, 06:53:14 PM Feel free to take my conversation to PMs, if by that you mean sending me hordes of unbooted material.
I knew about...uh, the new Weezer website before it actually changed over for the public... I couldn't tell anybody. It was tough. That's my brush with cloaks and daggers. Title: Re: Some needed info on Andy Paley Post by: I. Spaceman on February 19, 2006, 01:02:44 AM I already know. I was talking to Charles. He didn't. Title: Re: Some needed info on Andy Paley Post by: the captain on February 19, 2006, 05:37:13 AM Well I don't know anything about anything. Never did, and never will. Damnit. I guess I'm dumb (but I don't care).
I guess I'll pass the time waiting for this info to leak by staring at Ian's avatar. It's magic. Title: Re: Some needed info on Andy Paley Post by: Susan on February 19, 2006, 06:21:56 AM Wow. What a bunch of basta - - -oh, wait...wrong thread.
I have learned that the way to get told secrets is to keep them. Title: Re: Some needed info on Andy Paley Post by: Wirestone on February 19, 2006, 09:58:15 AM Here are my guesses.
1.) Andy is gay and made a pass at Brian. Alternate 1.) Brian actually had an affair with Andy. 2.) Andy made a pass at Melinda. Alternate 2.) Melinda actually had an affair with Andy. 3.) Andy is now becoming a woman. 4.) Andy somehow insulted Melinda by doing something or other. 5.) Andy now actually IS Brian Wilson, thanks to extensive plastic surgery. The old Brian lives in a Hollywood retirement home, is 500 pounds and the happiest he's ever been thanks to the all-birthday cake diet. 6.) The Wondermints ritually slaughtered Andy at one of the band getaways. Alternate 6.) Andy wanted to ritually slaughter the Wondermints. 7.) Andy was unmasked as an agent for Phil Spector, who really WAS interested in stealing Brian's ideas for his upcoming sessions with Starsailor. 8.) Andy Paley is a dick. Alternate 7.) Brian / Melinda / Darian / Jeff is a dick. Title: Re: Some needed info on Andy Paley Post by: Joshilyn Hoisington on February 19, 2006, 10:06:36 AM Quote Alternate 1.) Brian actually had an affair with Andy. If only! Title: Re: Some needed info on Andy Paley Post by: I. Spaceman on February 19, 2006, 12:13:36 PM Here are my guesses. 1.) Andy is gay and made a pass at Brian. Alternate 1.) Brian actually had an affair with Andy. 2.) Andy made a pass at Melinda. Alternate 2.) Melinda actually had an affair with Andy. 3.) Andy is now becoming a woman. 4.) Andy somehow insulted Melinda by doing something or other. 5.) Andy now actually IS Brian Wilson, thanks to extensive plastic surgery. The old Brian lives in a Hollywood retirement home, is 500 pounds and the happiest he's ever been thanks to the all-birthday cake diet. 6.) The Wondermints ritually slaughtered Andy at one of the band getaways. Alternate 6.) Andy wanted to ritually slaughter the Wondermints. 7.) Andy was unmasked as an agent for Phil Spector, who really WAS interested in stealing Brian's ideas for his upcoming sessions with Starsailor. 8.) Andy Paley is a dick. Alternate 7.) Brian / Melinda / Darian / Jeff is a dick. Nope. Title: Re: Some needed info on Andy Paley Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on February 19, 2006, 03:06:32 PM Well, if it's not 2,4, or 8, (esp. not 2 or 4), I seriously doubt the reason would matter to us. If it was #3, it'd make for some "interesting" sessions, esp. if Brian was unaware beforehand.
Brian: And you are... AP:Andrea Paley. Brian: Oh, you must be Andy's sister. AP: Umm.... Title: Re: Some needed info on Andy Paley Post by: Surfer Joe on February 19, 2006, 07:14:20 PM Ian, you need to change your avatar to Cindy Brady.
I've got a secret! I've got a secret! ;D Title: Re: Some needed info on Andy Paley Post by: I. Spaceman on February 19, 2006, 08:18:46 PM ;D
Title: Re: Some needed info on Andy Paley Post by: Surfer Joe on February 19, 2006, 08:39:21 PM Dang it, I was getting hooked on the other one. Now I'll have to go back to model glue.
(See: Missing SMiLE cut thread) :o Title: Re: Some needed info on Andy Paley Post by: Charles LePage @ ComicList on February 20, 2006, 07:34:16 AM Does anyone know when the two gigs mentioned in this article took place?
http://uncanny1.blogspot.com/2005/12/richard-x-heyman-discusses-working.html EDIT: I believe I found the info on the second one: http://members.tripod.com/~fun_fun_fun/9-7-95.html Title: Re: Some needed info on Andy Paley Post by: Jason on February 20, 2006, 10:03:14 AM Those were two gigs at the same venue, I believe.
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