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Hi,

does anyone of you know all the Beach Boys Managers? I have some gaps and don´t know how to fill them :)
So is anyone willing to help? Thank you :)

Murry Wilson      1961-1964

Nick Grillo           1966-1969

Jack Rieley      1971-1973
Steven Love      1973-   
Jim Guercio      1974-1976
Steven Love      1976-1977
Henry Lazarus      1977   
Steven Love      1977   
Jerry Schilling      1980-?

Tom Hulett during the 80's.  Since around 1990 it has been Elliott Lott, president of BRI.

I know Jerry Schilling was Carl's manager, don't think he managed the whole group, but someone a bit more knowledgeable could clear up the issue.

Jerry did manage the group. He started as a tour manager around '77...by 1979 he was band's official manager, I think his tenure continued only until Carl went solo in '81, although Jerry was involved with the band in some form through '85.

Yeah, I am sure about Schilling because in the 2nd Nick Kent Article (yeah, sorry, I know it´s bad and I don´t want to say much about it) from 1980 Schilling is excessive mentioned  ;D... because he wrote that it was Schillings idea to invite him (Kent) again for an interview after the Beach Boys suited him after the 75er article and Bruce nearly did go banans when he saw Kent  :lol

So, this could be an evidence...

If I recall correctly they actually had two managers at one stage to accomodate the different factions within the band.

... ofcourse my memory could well be failing me ... again ...  :-[

I wish I could remember who said it and when, but I recall a interview in the early 80s when a member of the band said 'the Beach Boys are unmanageable'. It made them seem more trouble than the Sex Pistols.  ;D

Today Jay Jones comes up although I think Mike would be the hands on guy.

http://www.jayjonesmusic.com/

Read this: http://www.jayjonesmusic.com/clients/beachboys/factfile_07.pdf

That's so bad.

What did Jim Guercio do? They hardly did anything between 74-76. At least in the studio.

ouch, a bit one-sided I'd say.  :-\

Yeah, it´s kind of ironic. They opened the Brother Studios in Santa Monica 1973 - but actually, they never used it that often. Only Dennis used it really often.

If I am not mistaken Guercio joined as a replacement for Blondie Chaplin in the first place and became the Band Manager. They held the Caribou Sessions in 74 and so on. Think there was a lot of stuff to do, and he had his Caribou Ranch and Chicago as well to manage  ;D. So I wouldn´t say that he was bored.


But... I cannot find anny sources for the other Managers. Who was it after Murry and between Grillo and Rieley? Why where they relieved? So many things to ask :)

That really reads like a parody.  Hard to believe anyone could write that in seriousness...

So, to the fact file... they forgot to mention that Mike Love actuelly Co-Wrote 3 Songs for Pet Sounds *lol*

Are they some kind of Love Fans or anything like this. And why is this posting in my Manager-Thread?  :lol

From April 1964 (when Murry got the boot) to spring 1966, the band were managed by Cummings & Currant (ironically, Murry's tax accountants), although C&C may have just handled the finances and Brian taken management chores. Spring 1966, the band moved from C&C to Julius Lefkowitz & Company. Taking charge of their account is one Nick Grillo, who is soon invited to become their personal manager. Grillo was officially dismissed in April 1972 and replaced by Jack Rieley (in reality, Jack was the de facto manager since about later 1970). Jack was sacked late 1972/early 1973 and replaced by Steve Love (Mike's brother), who was in turn replaced by Jim Guercio late 1974/early 1975.... but not for long as he was replaced by Steve in spring 1976. Steve's 2nd stint lasts until March 31st 1977, when his contract isn't renewed, at which time Carl brings in a friend of his, Henry Lazarus (or Lozarus). He lasts until the summer when a big European tour is cancelled at short notice because he's screwed up the paperwork. Who do Mike & Alan invite back ? Correct, Steve Love. He's fired - for the 3rd time - after the legendarily disastrous Australasian tour of early 1978 and Tom Hullett becomes manager.

Thank you Andrew, you are grand.

Do you possibly know when (or if???) Jerry Schilling took the Management Part over? Or is this Nick Kent guy confusing me again?  ;D

A real special thank you for all your help Andrew, would love to give something back to you but I don´t know what...?


And do you know... the Manager of the Beach Boys was in charge for Brother Records as well, wasn´t it? I mean, they had David Anderle back in 1966... but after this they didn´t had any additional personal, had they?

Schilling was involved in the 80s but I'm not sure when. Certainly he was Carl's manager then.

David Anderle was head of Brother, but didn't manage the band.

I'm sure this has been asked before, but what exactly did Brother do in the 66-69 period? Y'know, before Warner picked it up? The only thing that springs to mind is the H&V and Gettin Hungry singles, but was there anything else of substance - other signings, divisions, etc.

Oh, and Brian being the bands manager in the 64-66 period is interesting. I don't suppose he did any actual managerial stuff during the time, but still.

I'm pretty impressed that Mike donated 100k to the Katrina fund

Schilling was without a doubt the BB's manager(not just Carl's) in 1980 and throughout the 20th anniversary period. Mike refers to him as "our manager" during that period, and on the infamous Good Morning America appearance in '80 he joins the band on the couch and is described by them as their manager, also in the press surrounding the 20th anniv. concert at the L.A. Forum Schilling is named as the group's manager....plus he's told me to my face several times that he was the group's manager during that time. I think it ended when Carl bailed out in '81...Schilling went with him and never came back all the way.

Maybe it was just Carl, but Schilling was associated with the BBs in some form thru 1985.

Right...after '81 it was an "association" or co-manager as opposed to being their "official manager" as he was in '80.

Bruce mentions that Mike did a lot of managing for the BBs in the early 70s in this interview: http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,7804.0.html (http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,7804.0.html)

Of course since the WOTS-podcast, if not earlier, I have some doubts about what Bruce says when it comes to Mike. Anyway, I wasn't there....

In his book Me And A Guy Named Elvis, Jerry states that in 1978, Mike recommended to the rest of the band that he be their manager, having managed Carl since the end of 1977.

Care to elaborate?

But I also read in an Interview or Article that - after MIU - and after they lost a lot of money because of "missmanagement" by Stephen Love (?), Alan Jardine was put in charge as both Manager and Head of Brother Records???? I read it in Kingley Abbotts Book, but I´m not sure anymore in which section or article. So I won´t find the exact quote quickly....

That was over before it started.

Well, nothing special. It's just that Bruce kinda seems to praise everything Mike's doing to the sky, no matter how unimportant it might be. For the "It's ok"-podcast he mentions how great Mike's voice is, because he can sing nasal and soft. You know that kind of things. Just pointless stuff like that. Check it out at 6:49 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6g_zC1gU5Y&feature=PlayList&p=35A937B098381DEF&index=10 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6g_zC1gU5Y&feature=PlayList&p=35A937B098381DEF&index=10)   
Don't get me wrong. Mike has a great voice but it's got nothing to do with singing nasal or soft; everyone can do that.
And of course the famous "all around Mr. cool"-quote from EH. There's a lot of those things when Bruce talks about Mike and to me it doesn't sound very honest at all. But again, that's just me and it's no try at a Mike-bashing, just my feelings

I think it`s obvious that Bruce has been left very pissed off about how Mike has been represented by Leaf and others and feels the need to defend him a lot. I`m not sure there`s any reason to doubt him in terms of honesty though. His `Mr. Cool` quote actually rings true to me as Mike does seem to have been that kind of cocky, popular young man and this blended perfectly with Brian`s character. Obviously though if that type of young person doesn`t change as they get older then they become uncool and that`s what happened with Mike.

Yeah. While I'm old :-D, I still don't recall a lot about The Beach Boys in the 1960's, but I did read somewhere - and it wasn't on a message board! - that Mike at one time was considered cool, and some casual fans thought he was Brian Wilson!

Mike has become a bit of a parody of himself, but, I somehow think he's comfortable with that. And I can't blame him for it. He is cooler than most 70 year-old grandpa's (great-grandpa yet?). While he's begininng to show his age, he still looks and sounds pretty much like Mike Love. And that's a good thing.

I don't mean that Bruce ain't honest, it just sounds like that and totally ridiculous if he praises such unimportant (and nonsense) things like that nasal-soft thing. Like I said, anyone can do that, it ain't nothing you could be praising. Mike has other talents, that definitely deserve to be praised. And this being so ridiculous makes it sound doubtful to me, because I think Bruce is bright enough to know about that. Like I said, my problem. Ought not turn into a Mike/Bruce-bashing

Haha, I like this Leif - you write some of your postings in a Country slang  ;D :hat  :lol

I´d suggest that Bruce knows Mike and he owes him a great deal., isn´t it? I mean, Bruce doesn´t have a share of Brother Records anymore, so in all the Beach Boys Business things he can team up with Mike. And Mike needs Bruce to have him in the band. But in a way, Bruce is always trying to defend Mike...also his.. that Mike is said to be this and that.. and so on... Mike has ruined his reputation over the years himself but I think, many people are willing to "forgive". And i might say, Brian would be one of them...

Wasn't there a guy named Fred something that took over as manger after the boys parted ways with there dad?

You might be thinking of Fred Vail...but he wasn't their manager. He was mainly a concert promoter, and later worked as a record promoter.

Seconded. While a lot of fun may be had about Mike's bald pate, his turbans, his Maharishi dress code, and his predilection for chintz, he's stayed the same essentially over the years. Many folks his age really look a lot older, more weary of life. And one can't maintain that the Lovester looks young because he didn't work hard.

Now that I write this, I suddenly realize that his R 'n' R Hall Of Fame Introduction speech was a true representation of reality. We were all wrong.  :-[

I'd say from that 'fact sheet' that Mike Love is the Beach Boys.

That kinda reminds me of the band bio that Capitol posted on the 'official' BB site back in November 2002 - then took down literally two days later after being deluged with emails from irate fans.  ;D

You gotta love it.

1961. The Beach Boys formed - including Mike Love!

1962. First Beach Boys single, co written by none other than MIKE LOVE!

1963. First #1 hit co written my that musical luminary MIKE LOVE!

etc, etc, etc.

You'd think he was the only member....that the band was a vehicle for the immeasurable talents of MIKE LOVE!

The guy does have talent, and really doesn't need that kind of trumpeting.

Why do I get the feeling that Mike wrote this?

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Thanks

Why did you post that here?

Wait a minute. So Dolly wears a wig? That's not her real hair? Next thing you'll be telling me her boobs are fake too.