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Title: We Three Kings
Post by: variable2 on October 04, 2008, 05:19:35 PM
Hey everyone,

I was just watching this clip from the youtube clip.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-zhTP_iCkc

If you haven't seen it, its from a Christmas special and at 1:04 The Beach Boys interupt Marvin Gaye with an amazing acapella version of "We Three Kings of Orient Are."  Does anyone have any info behind this?  Is this actually live or previously recorded... its different from the one on the Christmas album.  This one has 4 voices (even though it shows all 5 BBs) instead of 2 on the album.  I'm assuming that Brian arranged this.. or is it a Four Freshman grab?


Title: Re: We Three Kings
Post by: Chris Brown on October 04, 2008, 09:01:18 PM
I don't have any answers for you, but damn that was gorgeous.  Better than the album version I think.  Thanks for posting that!


Title: Re: We Three Kings
Post by: Sheriff John Stone on October 04, 2008, 09:01:52 PM
Yes, it's amazing. I always thought it was live, but the way it's interspersed in there, it almost makes you think it was pre-recorded. It's a treasure; there aren't many a capella video clips of the guys from that time period. I would love to see the whole performance. That Christmas special (whatever it was called) must've been on a tight time schedule to edit that down to 1:04.

Not to go off topic, but does anybody know what songs the current Beach Boys perform at their Christmas shows?


Title: Re: We Three Kings
Post by: Don't Back Down on October 04, 2008, 09:22:25 PM
When I saw the Christmas show they played The Man With All The Toys, Santa's Beard (I think), traditional r&r tunes (rockin around the Christmas tree I think was in there), Little Saint Nick of course, can't remember any others at the moment (that was in 05, it's probably the same currently).


Title: Re: We Three Kings
Post by: Sheriff John Stone on October 04, 2008, 09:35:52 PM
Thanks, DBD. I was curious if they attempted any of the slower songs like "We Three Kings", "White Christmas", "I'll Be Home For Christmas", or even "Auld Lang Syne".


Title: Re: We Three Kings
Post by: Shane on October 04, 2008, 11:10:57 PM
Fascinating footage.  According to Bellagio 10452, this was originally broadcast 12/23/64, the date of Brian's breakdown on an airplane.  It was filmed either the 14th or 21st of December.


Title: Re: We Three Kings
Post by: Don't Back Down on October 04, 2008, 11:13:22 PM
Thanks, DBD. I was curious if they attempted any of the slower songs like "We Three Kings", "White Christmas", "I'll Be Home For Christmas", or even "Auld Lang Syne".

You're welcome. yeah I wish they would have done "We Three Kings" and especially "Auld Lang Syne"


Title: Re: We Three Kings
Post by: Mr. Cohen on October 07, 2008, 11:32:42 PM
Well, if we're posting youtube links, look at this television '76 performance of "Good Vibrations" by Brian in a 'sandbox':

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydj86dfm-zA&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydj86dfm-zA&feature=related)

It might be cool to see him playing this song, but talk about not caring. He simplified it to a ridiculous level, playing the chords but the melodic parts are so rudimentary or 'blah' sounding, like a beginner just learning how to play the song. When the chorus comes in at around 1:45, it almost seems like he's about to give up playing the song. He definitely wasn't feeling good vibrations during this performance. He also makes a couple of noticeable mistakes during the song that are pretty jarring. You wonder if it's just him fighting severe depression on air or if he's trying to make some kind of statement by playing one of his most classic songs like that, the song that also happens to be his last great accomplishment before his career collapsed in his eyes.


Title: Re: We Three Kings
Post by: phirnis on October 09, 2008, 07:56:14 AM
I've always loved Three Kings, it's easily my favorite tune on the Christmas album besides On Christmas Day (which to these ears has to be their single most gorgeous Christmas original). Three Kings is just such a great example of what made the sixties Beach Boys vocal sound so perfectly unique, the melancholic blend of young Brian harmonizing with the other guys still in such marvelous shape.


Title: Re: We Three Kings
Post by: Chris Brown on October 09, 2008, 08:09:56 AM
I didn't think the Good Vibrations performance was THAT bad, all things considered.  That song isn't meant to be played solo with just a piano.  What he was playing was indeed simple, but he was just basically doing what the organ was doing on the recording.  I'm sure his nerves didn't help much either.


Title: Re: We Three Kings
Post by: PongHit on October 09, 2008, 08:45:22 AM
I've always loved Three Kings, it's easily my favorite tune on the Christmas album ...

How's this for useless trivia?  "We Three Kings" was written in Williamsport, PA, the same location of a university called Lycoming College where Bob Moog received a doctorate degree -- & I think Mr. Moog was somehow involved with building the fake Theremin used on "Good Vibrations"!  See, it's all connected!   :lol


Title: Re: We Three Kings
Post by: SG7 on October 09, 2008, 04:42:51 PM
I've always loved Three Kings, it's easily my favorite tune on the Christmas album ...

How's this for useless trivia?  "We Three Kings" was written in Williamsport, PA, the same location of a university called Lycoming College where Bob Moog received a doctorate degree -- & I think Mr. Moog was somehow involved with building the fake Theremin used on "Good Vibrations"!  See, it's all connected!   :lol

 :thud I go to Mansfield U. and that is only an hour and a half away!! That is really weird!!


Title: Re: We Three Kings
Post by: Sheriff John Stone on October 09, 2008, 04:46:38 PM
I didn't think the Good Vibrations performance was THAT bad, all things considered.  That song isn't meant to be played solo with just a piano.  What he was playing was indeed simple, but he was just basically doing what the organ was doing on the recording.  I'm sure his nerves didn't help much either.

I agree. Saw the performance the night it was broadcast, and, despite the wince factor, there was/is something eerily fascinating about this. Whenever I watch the clip, I can't help but wonder what was going through Brian's mind. Is that the most bizarre trio of songs performed in front of a hip audience on national TV? "Back Home", "Love Is A Woman", and "Good Vibrations" with only a piano? Those were the daze...

Back to "We Three Kings"....That is a song, like a few other BW/BB classics like "In My Room", "God Only Knows", "Sloop John B", "This Whole World" - THAT I NEVER GET TIRED OF HEARING! The Beach Boys' Christmas Album could've been even better with just a couple more FAST Christmas songs (on Side 2) with the sleigbells, saxophones, and the rest of The Wrecking Crew doing their thing. But....I still find the album underrated in some ways because it contains some of the very best Brian Wilson lead vocals ever. His voice might've been at its clearest and purist; vocals don't get much better than BW's leads on "Blue Christmas", "White Christmas", and his high falsetto on the fast stuff.


Title: Re: We Three Kings
Post by: Chris Brown on October 09, 2008, 07:48:35 PM
Back to "We Three Kings"....That is a song, like a few other BW/BB classics like "In My Room", "God Only Knows", "Sloop John B", "This Whole World" - THAT I NEVER GET TIRED OF HEARING! The Beach Boys' Christmas Album could've been even better with just a couple more FAST Christmas songs (on Side 2) with the sleigbells, saxophones, and the rest of The Wrecking Crew doing their thing. But....I still find the album underrated in some ways because it contains some of the very best Brian Wilson lead vocals ever. His voice might've been at its clearest and purist; vocals don't get much better than BW's leads on "Blue Christmas", "White Christmas", and his high falsetto on the fast stuff.

I completely agree Sheriff, I love the Christmas Album.  The second side is a bid dreary, but there are plently of beautiful moments.  For my money, "Blue Christmas" is one of Brian's best non-falsetto vocals.  Like you said, clear and pure, just amazing.  The harmonies on "I'll Be Home For Christmas" give me chills.  Same with "We Three Kings".  A few faster songs would have been nice, but the first side was pretty upbeat, so I suppose it balances out. 


Title: Re: We Three Kings
Post by: Shane on October 09, 2008, 08:05:55 PM
RE: the performances in the "sandbox"... were these from Saturday Night Live?


Title: Re: We Three Kings
Post by: mikeyj on October 09, 2008, 08:21:05 PM
Back to "We Three Kings"....That is a song, like a few other BW/BB classics like "In My Room", "God Only Knows", "Sloop John B", "This Whole World" - THAT I NEVER GET TIRED OF HEARING!

I totally agree Sheriff, We Three Kings is beautiful... I have always longed for a release of the backing track and an a cappella version... without doubt my favourite song on the Christmas Album.


Title: Re: We Three Kings
Post by: SG7 on October 10, 2008, 09:56:41 AM
The a cappella coda at the end just kills me everytime I hear it.


Title: Re: We Three Kings
Post by: Wilsonista on October 10, 2008, 01:11:28 PM
RE: the performances in the "sandbox"... were these from Saturday Night Live?

Yes.


Title: Re: We Three Kings
Post by: Wilsonista on October 10, 2008, 01:13:58 PM
Fascinating footage.  According to Bellagio 10452, this was originally broadcast 12/23/64, the date of Brian's breakdown on an airplane.  It was filmed either the 14th or 21st of December.

Wasn't this a Shindig episode? I swear I remember the Shindig guy (can't remember his name) introducing the BB during Little Saint Nick.


Title: Re: We Three Kings
Post by: variable2 on October 10, 2008, 04:44:13 PM
Fascinating footage.  According to Bellagio 10452, this was originally broadcast 12/23/64, the date of Brian's breakdown on an airplane.  It was filmed either the 14th or 21st of December.

Wasn't this a Shindig episode? I swear I remember the Shindig guy (can't remember his name) introducing the BB during Little Saint Nick.

Yeah it's from Shindig.. I'm not sure if it's from the same episode as when they did Little Saint Nick and Johnny B. Goode.


Title: Re: We Three Kings
Post by: Scott on December 05, 2008, 07:40:00 AM
Thanks to you guys for turning me on to this clip...we did this arrangement a capella last night for the first time! 


Scott


Title: Re: We Three Kings
Post by: smile-holland on December 05, 2008, 08:09:55 AM
Serious?! Now that's pretty cool... never thought that uploading that video on YouTube 2 years ago would result into this.

Thanks for sharing with us.


Title: Re: We Three Kings
Post by: mikeyj on December 05, 2008, 08:19:10 AM
Thanks to you guys for turning me on to this clip...we did this arrangement a capella last night for the first time! 


Scott

Wow, would've loved to have heard that!!


Title: Re: We Three Kings
Post by: GoofyJeff on December 05, 2008, 09:37:17 AM
Thanks to you guys for turning me on to this clip...we did this arrangement a capella last night for the first time! 


Scott

Incredible...  would have loved to have been there to hear it. 


Title: Re: We Three Kings
Post by: Scott on December 05, 2008, 10:00:53 AM
Serious?! Now that's pretty cool... never thought that uploading that video on YouTube 2 years ago would result into this.

Thanks for sharing with us.


Hey thank you!  I sent Bruce the link and he was knocked out by it.  I taught Mike his part (or reminded him I should say) on the bus ride to the gig, he really is a quick learner.  He seems to really like the arrangement.  So did the audience.

Scott


Title: Re: We Three Kings
Post by: David C. on December 05, 2008, 10:42:50 AM
Well so much for lurking. This thread means it's time to pop in and tell this community that Scott is telling it like it was. I was there. Klein Auditorium, Bridgeport Connecticut. I was BLOWN AWAY by WTK. It was amazing. And while I'm at it, as a "used t be" naysayer of Mike's shows, I have made a complete about face and really warmed up to them. Last night's gig as well as the July 3rd in Danbury proved to me that the band is doing a lot of work to create just the right sound. And yes the audience LOVED it! You couldn't keep me in my seat. And while I'm at it I'll just say that Warmth, DWB, THWFOS and Betsy were totally awesome!

A hearty thank you Scott and all the guys for all the effort. It is definitely paying off!


Title: Re: We Three Kings
Post by: smile-holland on December 05, 2008, 10:44:38 AM
Serious?! Now that's pretty cool... never thought that uploading that video on YouTube 2 years ago would result into this.

Thanks for sharing with us.


Hey thank you!  I sent Bruce the link and he was knocked out by it.  I taught Mike his part (or reminded him I should say) on the bus ride to the gig, he really is a quick learner.  He seems to really like the arrangement.  So did the audience.

Scott

Makes me wish I was a Smiling Californian instead of Dutchman te see and hear this .... if you ever consider a X-mas tour in Europe....


Title: Re: We Three Kings
Post by: Alex on December 06, 2008, 10:46:57 AM
I've always loved Three Kings, it's easily my favorite tune on the Christmas album ...

How's this for useless trivia?  "We Three Kings" was written in Williamsport, PA, the same location of a university called Lycoming College where Bob Moog received a doctorate degree -- & I think Mr. Moog was somehow involved with building the fake Theremin used on "Good Vibrations"!  See, it's all connected!   :lol

According to Wikipedia, the guy who wrote We Three Kings, John Henry Hopkins Jr., was a clergyman in the town where I go to college (Plattsburgh, NY).