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Title: drums question
Post by: halblaineisgood on December 29, 2007, 02:38:09 AM
Alright, I know that Dennis and or Hal Blaine played drums  on many of the well known beach boys tracks, and also didn't Jim Gordon (and others?) play on the Friends album?.....But this  I was wondering...did Earl Palmer  do any drumming for brian or for the Beach Boys, or maybe did he and hal ever double up like they do on some of  jan & dean's stuff? I've read that Earl Palmer played on BB's tracks......I know I've read that.....but where..is it true or not.......Maybe I'm remembering his name from some poorly researched internet article..."....In fact the Beach Boys did not play their own instruments, and most of their hit songs were recorded by a tightly knit los angeles session group known as "the wrecking crew", which featured Carol Kaye, hal Blaine, Earl Palmer, Joe Osborne, and Bozo the clown...." or something like that.......anyways, if somebody would please confirm or disconfirm my query,that would be appreciated.


Title: Re: drums question
Post by: Christian on December 29, 2007, 03:34:50 AM
Earl Palmer played drums on:

Please Let Me Wonder (January 7, 1965)
Sherri She Needs Me (March 29, 1965)
Seasons In The Sun ("Terry Jax session", July 31, 197O)
Itīs About Time (July 1970)

and some sessions for the Wild Honey album I believe.


Title: Re: drums question
Post by: halblaineisgood on December 29, 2007, 03:43:50 AM
thank you sir


Title: Re: drums question
Post by: Mark A. Moore on December 29, 2007, 11:45:46 PM
True . . . "Earl the Pearl" played on many more Jan & Arnie and Jan & Dean sessions than he did for the Beach Boys.

Hal and Earl in tandem . . . and even Hal by himself . . . equaled a major, MAJOR difference in drum/percussion sounds and techniques between Jan & Dean & the Beach Boys.

For the '63-'66 period, the drums are wide open on the former, and much more subdued on the latter.

If you're a drummer . . . you might like the Jan & Dean stuff more than the Beach Boys . . . just from that narrow angle of focus (percussion-wise).

M.


Title: Re: drums question
Post by: adamghost on January 01, 2008, 02:55:31 PM
Nik Venet once told me, shortly before he died, that Earl Palmer played on some early (c1962-63) sessions for the Beach Boys.  I think that was the first time that information had come up.  I think it was subsequently confirmed elsewhere, but I don't know that for a fact.  C-Man would for sure.  C-Man?

True . . . "Earl the Pearl" played on many more Jan & Arnie and Jan & Dean sessions than he did for the Beach Boys.

Hal and Earl in tandem . . . and even Hal by himself . . . equaled a major, MAJOR difference in drum/percussion sounds and techniques between Jan & Dean & the Beach Boys.

For the '63-'66 period, the drums are wide open on the former, and much more subdued on the latter.

If you're a drummer . . . you might like the Jan & Dean stuff more than the Beach Boys . . . just from that narrow angle of focus (percussion-wise).

M.


Title: Re: drums question
Post by: c-man on January 01, 2008, 06:19:57 PM
Nik Venet once told me, shortly before he died, that Earl Palmer played on some early (c1962-63) sessions for the Beach Boys.  I think that was the first time that information had come up.  I think it was subsequently confirmed elsewhere, but I don't know that for a fact.  C-Man would for sure.  C-Man?


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Hmmm...not ringing any bells for me...just the few tracks mentioned by Christian above.  Although I will say this...Dennis and Hal teamed up for double drumming on "Memphis Beach" (aka "Carl's Big Chance") and probably "Don't Back (Break) Down".


Title: Re: drums question
Post by: Ron on January 01, 2008, 08:58:26 PM
I just noticed the other day that Hal Blaine played drums on a lot of the Carpenter's hits.  Crazy! 


Title: Re: drums question
Post by: kookadams on January 02, 2008, 07:10:44 AM
Since people have been replying to this topic I wanted to add a question to it cuz I haven't been getting any replies on the topic I made- Who endorsed Dennis and when did they do it? From what I've researched he first played a Gretsch kit, then mostly used Camco and Rogers throughout the 60s and into the early 70s; then he played an acrylic Zickos kit, and then I believe a black Yamaha kit in his last years; Can someone on here please elaborate on this for me that has more information?


Title: Re: drums question
Post by: c-man on January 10, 2008, 07:03:27 PM
Speaking of Earl Palmer, I just found one other Beach Boys tune he played drums on (although uncredited on the album sleeve)..."Sumahama".




Title: Re: drums question
Post by: Shane on January 10, 2008, 10:27:34 PM
On the session tapes for "Its About Time", there's a guy with a really raspy voice doing the count-in.  Is that Earl Palmer?


Title: Re: drums question
Post by: c-man on January 11, 2008, 04:39:36 AM
On the session tapes for "Its About Time", there's a guy with a really raspy voice doing the count-in.  Is that Earl Palmer?

Yep, I believe so.


Title: Re: drums question
Post by: Joshilyn Hoisington on February 25, 2008, 05:02:18 PM
Yeah, that's Earl.  Listen to the Please Let Me Wonder session, you'll hear his voice there too.


Title: Re: drums question
Post by: c-man on February 25, 2008, 06:38:08 PM
Earl also drums on the Dick Reynolds-arranged "Adult Child" songs:  Life Is For The Living, Deep Purple, It's Over Now, Still I Dream Of It.