Title: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: SurfGeko61 on December 28, 2022, 04:56:14 PM Cool tidbit and think exciting news regarding the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert from a new Rivers Cuomo/Weezer interview.
https://consequence.net/2022/12/weezer-interview-sznz-rivers-cuomo/3/ (https://consequence.net/2022/12/weezer-interview-sznz-rivers-cuomo/3/) “ What’s next for Weezer? We have a big tour announcement coming soon. And in the “pure fun” department, we’re going to participate in this television tribute to The Beach Boys. So we’re in the midst of figuring out which Beach Boys songs we want to cover, and oh my God, it’s incredibly fun. It feels so good to play and sing these songs. And I’m reminded of how much I used them as a model when I was first starting out writing songs for Weezer” I’ve always wished and hoped for Weezer/Rivers Cuomo Brian Wilson collaboration project, although that may never happen, excited to see/hear what Weezer comes up with and does for the tribute song(s). Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: SMiLE Brian on December 28, 2022, 05:25:47 PM Good catch!
Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Tony S on December 29, 2022, 06:07:08 AM This doesn't really excite me much. Seeing a bunch of bands, probably current and from yester year, performing classic BB songs. With or without whosever left, this strikes me as a worse effort that the 25th anniverrsary special from Hawaii...which wasn't really that good. We shall see. Maybe they can have that obnoxious guy play Do It Again, and have him strut around the stage with Mike screaming "DO IT"...or have Stamos mug for the cameras "playing" a guitar that isn't even plugged in. Would have been better to just have whose left, with Blondie and Ricky too, play a few classics...just that alone would have been enough IMHO.
Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Ian on December 30, 2022, 11:20:15 AM Well…I think the whole point is to keep the BBs on the public radar and relevant to the younger folks-for whom even Weezer are oldies now! If it gets people to appreciate the band and sells some records than it is all good.
Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Shady on December 30, 2022, 07:07:25 PM This is very exciting
Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Awesoman on December 31, 2022, 08:14:43 AM Cool tidbit and think exciting news regarding the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert from a new Rivers Cuomo/Weezer interview. https://consequence.net/2022/12/weezer-interview-sznz-rivers-cuomo/3/ (https://consequence.net/2022/12/weezer-interview-sznz-rivers-cuomo/3/) “ What’s next for Weezer? We have a big tour announcement coming soon. And in the “pure fun” department, we’re going to participate in this television tribute to The Beach Boys. So we’re in the midst of figuring out which Beach Boys songs we want to cover, and oh my God, it’s incredibly fun. It feels so good to play and sing these songs. And I’m reminded of how much I used them as a model when I was first starting out writing songs for Weezer” I’ve always wished and hoped for Weezer/Rivers Cuomo Brian Wilson collaboration project, although that may never happen, excited to see/hear what Weezer comes up with and does for the tribute song(s). That would be the perfect opportunity for them to dust off this little track they did: https://youtu.be/RsG37JcEQNw Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Awesoman on December 31, 2022, 08:18:24 AM This doesn't really excite me much. Seeing a bunch of bands, probably current and from yester year, performing classic BB songs. With or without whosever left, this strikes me as a worse effort that the 25th anniverrsary special from Hawaii...which wasn't really that good. We shall see. Maybe they can have that obnoxious guy play Do It Again, and have him strut around the stage with Mike screaming "DO IT"...or have Stamos mug for the cameras "playing" a guitar that isn't even plugged in. Would have been better to just have whose left, with Blondie and Ricky too, play a few classics...just that alone would have been enough IMHO. I dunno. Let's see who shows up. The tribute concert they did for Brian back in 2001 was quite good, featuring a stellar performance of "The Warmth of the Sun" by Vince Gill and a lovely reading of "Surfer Girl" by Paul Simon. And speaking of Simon, his tribute concert they recently aired wasn't bad. Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Alex on January 01, 2023, 07:19:47 PM This doesn't really excite me much. Seeing a bunch of bands, probably current and from yester year, performing classic BB songs. With or without whosever left, this strikes me as a worse effort that the 25th anniverrsary special from Hawaii...which wasn't really that good. We shall see. Maybe they can have that obnoxious guy play Do It Again, and have him strut around the stage with Mike screaming "DO IT"...or have Stamos mug for the cameras "playing" a guitar that isn't even plugged in. Would have been better to just have whose left, with Blondie and Ricky too, play a few classics...just that alone would have been enough IMHO. Hopefully, it'll be classy and on PBS, rather than tacky and on Faux. Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Emdeeh on January 12, 2023, 04:41:17 PM The date of the tribute show for the BBs has finally been announced (see below).
From https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/grammy-salute-the-beach-boys-2023-1235198488/: "A Grammy Salute to The Beach Boys, the latest in a series of "Grammy Salute" specials, will tape Wednesday, Feb. 8, three days after the 65th annual Grammy Awards are held in Los Angeles. The live concert special will feature a star-studded lineup paying tribute to the classic pop/rock group. It will tape at the Dolby Theatre in Hollywood and will air on CBS later this year." Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: All Summer Long on January 12, 2023, 10:39:18 PM The date of the tribute show for the BBs has finally been announced (see below). From https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/grammy-salute-the-beach-boys-2023-1235198488/: "A Grammy Salute to The Beach Boys, the latest in a series of "Grammy Salute" specials, will tape Wednesday, Feb. 8, three days after the 65th annual Grammy Awards are held in Los Angeles. The live concert special will feature a star-studded lineup paying tribute to the classic pop/rock group. It will tape at the Dolby Theatre in Hollywood and will air on CBS later this year." Oh wow - let’s hope there are some actual stars. It’s been a while since I’ve been able to post, but others have floated (or read, j can’t recall) about big names of today and yesterday? In terms of today, I’m not a fan of Weezer, but Rivers Cuomo does seem to like The Beach Boys (and I think The Monkees too, IIRC). Maybe the Jonas Brothers for today? (I’m not a fan, but Nick Jonas was in LPR, so who knows?) In terms of yesterday, who’s still around that’s would be up for and/or able to do it? The Rolling Stones, if they page brushed off Mike? :lol Paul McCartney on God Only Knows, perhaps? (Imagine if Paul and Ringo Starr did God Only Knows together? A Beatles reunion for a Beach Boys event would be awesome.) Bob Dylan? Roger McGuinn? David Crosby? (Imagine a Byrds reunion too?) Micky Dolenz? Peter Noone? Barry Gibb? Maybe Willie Nelson doing The Warmth of the Sun again? The Eagles (now with 2001 BW special alumnus Vince Gill)? Bruce Springsteen? Maybe Elton John since he was in LPR? Jeff Lynne/ELO? Lorrie Morgan doing Don’t Worry Baby again? What do we think the chances of any of the band, other than I’d say Al being 99% likely IMO, attending. I know it wouldn’t happen but a full band reunion (including Blondie and even Ricky if he was interested) backed by any/some/many/all of Ed Carter, Bobby Figueroa, (Mike Kowalski on percussion?), Brian’s band, Scott Totten, John Cowsill, and maybe even Brian Eichenberger would be pretty awesome!! (Especially since it would 99.99% likely be the last possible time.) I tried to narrow down a potential setlist, but I couldn’t get lower than like 15, which definitely wouldn’t happen. I doubt if it did happen that it would go above a handful. After all, Paul and Ringo reunited for their special for a handful of songs, which I missed somehow when it aired — maybe my DVR deleted it on its own or something. (Did Barry Gibb play at the one for The Bee Gees? I also missed that one somehow when it aired - but I think I forgot to DVR that one.) Too bad they don’t re-air and/or release these on DVD or something. Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: HeyJude on January 13, 2023, 06:34:57 AM The press release conspicuously does not mention any actual BB member participation, likely because either they don't want to reveal anything, and/or don't know who's confirmed yet.
As I've said many many times, these shows usually aren't great. The Paul/Ringo Beatles Grammy Salute they did several years back was about as good as it gets; they actually got some non-current-hit-maker contemporaries in the show (e.g. Jeff Lynne, Joe Walsh, etc.) rather than having only wall-to-wall current hitmakers. And even that show wasn't great. That this is a Grammy Salute event done a few days after the actual award show portends well for getting some "big names", but I really have to assume the worst of such a show on all counts and then be possibly pleasantly surprised as far as the other artists showing up. The question of a full band "reunion" is a whole other ball of wax, and I have to think best case scenario is either some-but-not-all members joining in some group thing at the end, or *maybe* if Brian is in shape to do it, a very short set by the reunited band. And I'm just going to say it: Even with this being a pre-taped thing where they have months to do editing, Brian can't be in the same shape he was at the end of his 2022 Chicago tour if they plan on having him at the show. Even if they just have others sing, it's just not going to work if he sits completely stone-faced not reacting to *anything* around him. The question from the fan perspective is; if Brian can't be there, do we want the rest of the reunited band? I honestly can't say I'm sure. There's obviously always morbid curiosity post-1997 to even see Al and Mike in the same room, let alone on stage together. But I guess if everybody *but* Brian showed up, I'd rather see individual members do some showcase numbers or work with other artists, rather than a "Partial Reunion Band" set. Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Pretty Funky on January 13, 2023, 01:40:38 PM As a fan of 45 years, experience tells me dial any expectations back to about a 1-2.
2012 was the exception. Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: juggler on January 13, 2023, 05:26:39 PM So, who here is dying to hear Lizzo sing Don't Worry Baby? :lol
j/k I don't mean to pick on Lizzo. I'm sure she's very talented. But I have extremely low expectations in terms of the tribute lineup bringing anything new or innovative in interpreting the BB catalog. Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Lonely Summer on January 13, 2023, 07:15:03 PM Brian doesn't have to be on stage - just get Mike, Bruce, Al, David. Do a video tribute to Carl and Dennis.
Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Emdeeh on January 13, 2023, 08:56:17 PM I hope Bonnie Raitt shows up and plays something with Blondie and Ricky.
Maybe Al could get some of his collaborators from Postcard and reconstitute Crosby, Stills, Jardine, and Young for "CA Saga." Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: SurfGeko61 on January 14, 2023, 01:35:16 PM Cool, looking forward to it. Was looking up some of the Grammy tribute events of Paul Simon, Beatles, Beatles, Bee Gees….looks like the ‘tribute artist(s) did show up for previous and overall seemed like a pretty good mix of top notch artists to Perform. So hope whoever ends up on this one is top tier artist it’s new and older. One artist that came to mind, not typically associated with Brian/Beach Boys etc and not sure has ever perform that I’ve seen is Dolly Parton, I could think of many songs imagine she would sound great on.
Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: patsy6 on January 15, 2023, 02:15:16 PM It's a safe bet that no one's going to perfom Carl's solo song "The Grammy." ;)
Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: patsy6 on January 16, 2023, 08:40:53 AM I'd like to hear Bonnie Raitt do Sail On Sailor, with Ricky on drums, of course.
Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Shady on January 16, 2023, 07:52:43 PM Let's not lie.. that's a huge disappointment
Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: UEF on January 17, 2023, 05:51:22 AM This doesn't really excite me much. Seeing a bunch of bands, probably current and from yester year, performing classic BB songs. With or without whosever left, this strikes me as a worse effort that the 25th anniverrsary special from Hawaii...which wasn't really that good. We shall see. Maybe they can have that obnoxious guy play Do It Again, and have him strut around the stage with Mike screaming "DO IT"...or have Stamos mug for the cameras "playing" a guitar that isn't even plugged in. Would have been better to just have whose left, with Blondie and Ricky too, play a few classics...just that alone would have been enough IMHO. There are good ways of doing such tributes - the Kennedy Centre Honors type shows are generally well-regarded https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cZ_EFAmj08 Of course I wouldn't put it past the BBs to do something completely full of naff inflatable palm trees and the rest, but this shows it can be done... Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: HeyJude on January 17, 2023, 06:44:10 AM The set design is not what we should be worrying about when it comes to this show. I wouldn't be surprised if the set design ends up being the *best* aspect of this thing.
Also, while I would imagine Iconic/BRI are looped in on this, it appears they are not producing the show themselves. The default position as many of us have stated is that expectations should be set very low on such things, and nothing I've heard in the last few days about this show has dissuaded me from that position. The lack of almost *any* details in the announcement should tell you something, or in fact a number of things. (And I'm not talking about keeping things a surprise). I think the best way to celebrate the band and whatever anniversary you might care to is to listen to the "Sail on Sailor" set, or pop in your favorite recording from the 2012 tour. Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: HeyJude on January 20, 2023, 01:31:49 PM They're selling tickets for the tribute show. Still zero details on any guests. I'm starting to wonder if they should have just re-run the 25th Anniversary special.
$300 for the best tickets, and you could well end up with no Beach Boys on stage and/or in attendance, and Weezer may end up being the top-billed guest. https://www.goldstar.com/events/hollywood-ca/a-grammy-salute-to-the-beach-boys-tickets (https://i.gse.io/gse_media/123/0/1673542179-AGST_THE_BEACH_BOYS_logo_white_font.jpg?h=343&p=1&q=70&w=610&c=1) Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Robbie Mac on January 22, 2023, 02:47:37 PM They're selling tickets for the tribute show. Still zero details on any guests. I'm starting to wonder if they should have just re-run the 25th Anniversary special. $300 for the best tickets, and you could well end up with no Beach Boys on stage and/or in attendance, and Weezer may end up being the top-billed guest. https://www.goldstar.com/events/hollywood-ca/a-grammy-salute-to-the-beach-boys-tickets (https://i.gse.io/gse_media/123/0/1673542179-AGST_THE_BEACH_BOYS_logo_white_font.jpg?h=343&p=1&q=70&w=610&c=1) Why am I getting Three’s Company vibes from that logo? Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Rocker on January 26, 2023, 12:25:30 PM A GRAMMY Salute To The Beach Boys Tribute Concert To Feature Performances By John Legend, Brandi Carlile, St. Vincent, Beck, Fall Out Boy, Mumford & Sons, Weezer & More; Tickets On Sale Now https://www.grammy.com/news/beach-boys-grammy-salute-2023-lineup-john-legend-brandi-carlile-st-vincent-beck Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: jeremylr on January 26, 2023, 03:54:07 PM If anybody can bring down the house, it'll be Brandi Carlile. Grateful for all the details you've filled in by sharing this Grammy press release, Rocker.
Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Shady on January 26, 2023, 04:46:57 PM OK that is actually an amazing line up, now I'm very excited
Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: HeyJude on January 27, 2023, 06:33:48 AM Curious if the producers of the show (or Michael McDonald) have seen the "Long Promised Road", where Jason Fine tells a story about Brian and "What A Fool Believes." Maybe it's a good thing if Brian isn't there.
This lineup is firmly in the realm of "eye of the beholder" as far as personal preference versus what would constitute current day "A list", etc. As I mentioned awhile back, the Beatles tribute show the same people put on 8 or 9 years ago (or however long ago that was) worked a little better because they at least mixed the latter-day artists with a few sort-of "contemporaries" of the Beatles. At least some folks like Jeff Lynne, Joe Walsh, Frampton (in the backing band anyway), and so on. They also obviously had the benefit of getting both Paul and Ringo as well. I'm sure the artists on this BB show have a wide ranging level of familiarity and fandom for the Beach Boys, but I sense a lot of these artists will either be picking very well-known hits, or will be learning songs they've never heard before. It speaks to, well, something, that they couldn't get much of any of the "legacy" era artists to do this (McDonald presumably being of the most vintage), nor much of any artists that have any link or known strong affinity for the Beach Boys. I guess Hanson has worked with Mike. Pentatonix is an all-vocal group, so that's something I guess. Not that it's surprising, but this cast seems to have been assembled much more as if it were a typical Grammy show lineup, with as much youth demographic appeal as possible, followed by an attempt to grab a bunch of different genres/demographics. Is is kind of interesting to see this right after having just recently finally read the updated version of David Leaf's book, where he goes into (kind of comically excessive) detail about putting together that 2001 TNT Brian tribute show. He managed to call in enough favors to get the likes of Paul Simon, Elton, Billy Joel, etc. Hopefully at least the production value on this will be up to snuff enough and good songs and artists matched enough to sell young folks and other prospective new fans on getting into the Beach Boys. And yes, for many reasons, it's probably best to forego any attempt at a "reunited" band on stage for this. Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: SurfGeko61 on January 27, 2023, 01:21:54 PM Interesting Line-up. Suspect and/or hope for a great show. Looking at names, although not really any ‘legacy’ artists basically ‘peer’ bands and or artists that are now in 60’s to 80 years old. I also was hoping to see a couple more of the ‘legacy’ type artists on the lineup too. Maybe some surprise guest or last minute additions before show.
I would say quite a few have pretty direct and deep influence or connections with quite a few of those artists. Weezer has always claimed big influence did a few BB covers and a song released called ‘The Beach Boys’ and several songs with lyrics calling out Beach Boys (they themselves called themselves Beach Boys with Marshall Stacks), My Morning Jacket (Jim James) of course just wrote the most recent new release single with BW - “Right Where I Belong'. Beck was very laudatory discussing BW/BB PetSounds in documentary ‘Echo in the Canyon,’ Norah Jones, John Legend, Hanson, maybe others have previously performed and or released BB cover songs. Hopefully a couple of those artists are able to perform a few deeper cut songs too and not just the well known expected songs. Many of those bands/artists are actually pretty well established and legendary in their own right if you are younger than me (I’m now in early 50’s). Some I’m more familiar with than others for sure, a couple never heard of had to look up. For example Weezer who I sometimes I think of as current ‘new artist’ is 30+ year old band, same goes for Hanson they are in there 40’s probably by now, Beck, Mumford and Sons, majority of artists been around for 10- 20+ years. So basically I was thinking about when Beach Boys had a kind of comeback with Full House, 4th of July Concert, Endless Summer years and Brian Wilson basically starting Solo Career. They were around same age as most of these artists and by then 15-20ish years depending on what ‘comeback’ moment counting. Makes me feel old. Still looking forward to the concert, wish I could go see in person, hopefully someone does and spills the beans on what happens. We as BB/BW fans may not get many more events like this, and sadly so many of the ‘legacy artists’ that could’ve been part of lineup are no longer doing shows or have passed. Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Rocky Raccoon on January 27, 2023, 06:24:05 PM I wonder if Brian, Mike, Al, and Bruce (also maybe David?) will do a few songs together, at least Brian and Al seem to be winding down in terms of their performing days, might be the last time they ever appear together as a group which would be a special thing.
Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Robbie Mac on January 28, 2023, 12:07:05 AM Curious if the producers of the show (or Michael McDonald) have seen the "Long Promised Road", where Jason Fine tells a story about Brian and "What A Fool Believes." Maybe it's a good thing if Brian isn't there. This lineup is firmly in the realm of "eye of the beholder" as far as personal preference versus what would constitute current day "A list", etc. As I mentioned awhile back, the Beatles tribute show the same people put on 8 or 9 years ago (or however long ago that was) worked a little better because they at least mixed the latter-day artists with a few sort-of "contemporaries" of the Beatles. At least some folks like Jeff Lynne, Joe Walsh, Frampton (in the backing band anyway), and so on. They also obviously had the benefit of getting both Paul and Ringo as well. I'm sure the artists on this BB show have a wide ranging level of familiarity and fandom for the Beach Boys, but I sense a lot of these artists will either be picking very well-known hits, or will be learning songs they've never heard before. It speaks to, well, something, that they couldn't get much of any of the "legacy" era artists to do this (McDonald presumably being of the most vintage), nor much of any artists that have any link or known strong affinity for the Beach Boys. I guess Hanson has worked with Mike. Pentatonix is an all-vocal group, so that's something I guess. Not that it's surprising, but this cast seems to have been assembled much more as if it were a typical Grammy show lineup, with as much youth demographic appeal as possible, followed by an attempt to grab a bunch of different genres/demographics. Is is kind of interesting to see this right after having just recently finally read the updated version of David Leaf's book, where he goes into (kind of comically excessive) detail about putting together that 2001 TNT Brian tribute show. He managed to call in enough favors to get the likes of Paul Simon, Elton, Billy Joel, etc. Hopefully at least the production value on this will be up to snuff enough and good songs and artists matched enough to sell young folks and other prospective new fans on getting into the Beach Boys. And yes, for many reasons, it's probably best to forego any attempt at a "reunited" band on stage for this. Well, for such a storied brand name, when they did Stars & Stripes, they weren’t really able to get the “stars”. Except for Willie and Tammy, most of the country acts on that album were either on the way up or on the way down. Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Rocker on January 28, 2023, 02:47:26 AM Curious if the producers of the show (or Michael McDonald) have seen the "Long Promised Road", where Jason Fine tells a story about Brian and "What A Fool Believes." Maybe it's a good thing if Brian isn't there. This lineup is firmly in the realm of "eye of the beholder" as far as personal preference versus what would constitute current day "A list", etc. As I mentioned awhile back, the Beatles tribute show the same people put on 8 or 9 years ago (or however long ago that was) worked a little better because they at least mixed the latter-day artists with a few sort-of "contemporaries" of the Beatles. At least some folks like Jeff Lynne, Joe Walsh, Frampton (in the backing band anyway), and so on. They also obviously had the benefit of getting both Paul and Ringo as well. I'm sure the artists on this BB show have a wide ranging level of familiarity and fandom for the Beach Boys, but I sense a lot of these artists will either be picking very well-known hits, or will be learning songs they've never heard before. It speaks to, well, something, that they couldn't get much of any of the "legacy" era artists to do this (McDonald presumably being of the most vintage), nor much of any artists that have any link or known strong affinity for the Beach Boys. I guess Hanson has worked with Mike. Pentatonix is an all-vocal group, so that's something I guess. Not that it's surprising, but this cast seems to have been assembled much more as if it were a typical Grammy show lineup, with as much youth demographic appeal as possible, followed by an attempt to grab a bunch of different genres/demographics. Is is kind of interesting to see this right after having just recently finally read the updated version of David Leaf's book, where he goes into (kind of comically excessive) detail about putting together that 2001 TNT Brian tribute show. He managed to call in enough favors to get the likes of Paul Simon, Elton, Billy Joel, etc. Hopefully at least the production value on this will be up to snuff enough and good songs and artists matched enough to sell young folks and other prospective new fans on getting into the Beach Boys. And yes, for many reasons, it's probably best to forego any attempt at a "reunited" band on stage for this. Well, for such a storied brand name, when they did Stars & Stripes, they weren’t really able to get the “stars”. Except for Willie and Tammy, most of the country acts on that album were either on the way up or on the way down. True. Although it has to be said that there were some actual great names floating around in the pregame. Dolly Parton, Merle Haggard, Hank jr., Ronnie Milsap, Oak Ridge Boys were mentioned a.o. iIrc. I guess what it came down to was just that nobody cared to work something out with those people and went with the easier, make-a-quick-buck way (which unfortunately seems to be a very Beach-Boys-y way to do things). The potential of Stars&Stripes is one of my guilty pleasures and somewhere on this board I put togetehr a possible track & artists list for an alternative album which imo would have been a great release. Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Robbie Mac on January 28, 2023, 09:27:55 AM Curious if the producers of the show (or Michael McDonald) have seen the "Long Promised Road", where Jason Fine tells a story about Brian and "What A Fool Believes." Maybe it's a good thing if Brian isn't there. This lineup is firmly in the realm of "eye of the beholder" as far as personal preference versus what would constitute current day "A list", etc. As I mentioned awhile back, the Beatles tribute show the same people put on 8 or 9 years ago (or however long ago that was) worked a little better because they at least mixed the latter-day artists with a few sort-of "contemporaries" of the Beatles. At least some folks like Jeff Lynne, Joe Walsh, Frampton (in the backing band anyway), and so on. They also obviously had the benefit of getting both Paul and Ringo as well. I'm sure the artists on this BB show have a wide ranging level of familiarity and fandom for the Beach Boys, but I sense a lot of these artists will either be picking very well-known hits, or will be learning songs they've never heard before. It speaks to, well, something, that they couldn't get much of any of the "legacy" era artists to do this (McDonald presumably being of the most vintage), nor much of any artists that have any link or known strong affinity for the Beach Boys. I guess Hanson has worked with Mike. Pentatonix is an all-vocal group, so that's something I guess. Not that it's surprising, but this cast seems to have been assembled much more as if it were a typical Grammy show lineup, with as much youth demographic appeal as possible, followed by an attempt to grab a bunch of different genres/demographics. Is is kind of interesting to see this right after having just recently finally read the updated version of David Leaf's book, where he goes into (kind of comically excessive) detail about putting together that 2001 TNT Brian tribute show. He managed to call in enough favors to get the likes of Paul Simon, Elton, Billy Joel, etc. Hopefully at least the production value on this will be up to snuff enough and good songs and artists matched enough to sell young folks and other prospective new fans on getting into the Beach Boys. And yes, for many reasons, it's probably best to forego any attempt at a "reunited" band on stage for this. Well, for such a storied brand name, when they did Stars & Stripes, they weren’t really able to get the “stars”. Except for Willie and Tammy, most of the country acts on that album were either on the way up or on the way down. True. Although it has to be said that there were some actual great names floating around in the pregame. Dolly Parton, Merle Haggard, Hank jr., Ronnie Milsap, Oak Ridge Boys were mentioned a.o. iIrc. I guess what it came down to was just that nobody cared to work something out with those people and went with the easier, make-a-quick-buck way (which unfortunately seems to be a very Beach-Boys-y way to do things). The potential of Stars&Stripes is one of my guilty pleasures and somewhere on this board I put togetehr a possible track & artists list for an alternative album which imo would have been a great release. Yes, a good BB/country music album was possible. Stars & Stripes wasn’t it. Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Awesoman on January 28, 2023, 10:00:22 AM They should have done this about 10-15 years ago; it probably would have had a more impressive lineup. But this ain't bad. Hopefully we'll get some remarkable performances out of it. But I doubt it will top the fantastic 2001 tribute to Brian Wilson. Vince Gill's performance of "The Warmth of The Sun" just about blows away any tribute performance of a Beach Boys song to date.
Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: All Summer Long on January 28, 2023, 11:04:42 PM So I’ve lost all hope that I had, say, a couple weeks ago. I’m excited by Michael McDonald and Brandi Carlille, but I bet I’d skip most of the rest of the show when it eventually airs. I might be in the age group of fans of a lot of the other artists mentioned, but they hold no interest for me. So much for the best of YESTERDAY along with today.
Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: HeyJude on January 30, 2023, 08:49:27 AM We've already had at least two very similar events (the 2001 TNT show and the Musicares show from 2005 or whenever that was), and both were mixed bags.
I don't think it's really possible to make these things *great*; I think some greatness could be stumbled upon with the right performers and song picks. But it's very hard to do, even with an A-list group, which this show certainly isn't. I'm not totally ignorant as to who might be a young A-lister with a young fanbase, I think this show isn't even getting like A-list talent even if it's all artists with little or no connection to the BBs or their fanbase. Assuming the show goes well enough to air later in the year in primetime on a network, it will get some eyes and ears on BB music. That's good. As I mentioned, it's pretty interesting to see this thing unfold having just read David Leaf's excruciatingly detailed account of putting together than TNT tribute. Leaf essentially called in favors, and/or called in favors to call in favors, etc., and that was all to achieve what was really a mixed bag of a tribute show. Why this Grammy show can't get top-tier talent from all genres and eras is a question I can't fully answer. Is a "Brian Wilson" tribute show more enticing than a "Beach Boys" tribute show? Has Mike's occasional well-known gaffes (Rock Hall speech, political stuff of recent years) soured a few folks on doing something that isn't more Brian-centric? I've always hoped for something that isn't like Morgan Freeman at a podium narrating while the same dozen early-era Capitol publicity photos swoosh by. Or that same stupid early 60s stock beach footage. And you know, especially as the artist list gets less interesting, the show's producers are going to push for the most recognizable songs. Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Pretty Funky on January 30, 2023, 04:01:52 PM I’m actually most impressed with the team behind this, and looking at a few of the previous tributes, the high standard of production. Artists aside, this should be a class act.
*Ken Ehrlich Productions has been the leading production company in Los Angeles and produces Television, Specials, series and events for over 40 years. We have produced the Annual Grammy Awards, Emmy Awards and Concert specials. We have also produced events like the Obama Presidency fund raisers to the Women's Cancer Research Fund gala. Additionally, we have produced and directed Las Vegas residencies for Celine Dion, Mariah Carey and John Fogerty. Our clients include CBS, NBC, ABC along with artists from Celine Dion, The Rolling Stones, Ricky Martin, Jennifer Lopez to name a few.* Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: HeyJude on January 31, 2023, 06:53:03 AM I’m actually most impressed with the team behind this, and looking at a few of the previous tributes, the high standard of production. Artists aside, this should be a class act. *Ken Ehrlich Productions has been the leading production company in Los Angeles and produces Television, Specials, series and events for over 40 years. We have produced the Annual Grammy Awards, Emmy Awards and Concert specials. We have also produced events like the Obama Presidency fund raisers to the Women's Cancer Research Fund gala. Additionally, we have produced and directed Las Vegas residencies for Celine Dion, Mariah Carey and John Fogerty. Our clients include CBS, NBC, ABC along with artists from Celine Dion, The Rolling Stones, Ricky Martin, Jennifer Lopez to name a few.* I have no reason to doubt the production values will be just fine as far as these type of TV specials go. I mean, there's a point at which it's less a resume and more like evidence of a kind of cookie-cutter, assembly-line, sausage-making sort of thing with all of these shows. But I've never assumed there would be any problems with the nuts-and-bolts in terms of production values. I'm sure the camera work and set design and all of that will be fine (probably, I mean I do think it was kind of weird on that Beatles Grammy tribute to have the "house band" on a second stage off to the side instead of behind the performers). Their TV show production resume is fine. Their resume when it comes to the Beach Boys is close to zip. I don't complain too much about this, because it's not like there's a BRI in-house team that regularly produces Beach Boys tribute shows that they can go to. *But*, there are folks at BRI and others who could certainly help them make this thing a little more special. I sense this is going to be that 2012 round-robin Beach Boys "tribute" from the actual Grammy show, just minus the actual Beach Boys. In other words, and again I don't expect otherwise, but these shows are not for fans. They're for the same people who would watch the actual Grammy awards telecast, who might be hearing "You're So Good To Me" or whatever for the first time. My only wish for these things is less about getting cover artists *I* want, and just about making the thing a little more "Concert for George" than the Beach Boys 25th Anniversary special in terms of gravitas and esteem and tone. I don't sense this upcoming show will be such an event. The fact that a Beach Boys "reunion" is likely past its expiration date makes me less interested of course. But of course I'll watch, and if any artists pick cool songs or do a good job, I'll be happy to say so. Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Lonely Summer on January 31, 2023, 07:37:23 PM I guess I've really missed the boat on some of these acts. I've heard a few Weezer songs but they're not a band I really know anything about. Whenever I hear their name, I think of "Weezy" on the Jeffersons tv show.
I know Belinda Carlisle, but not Brandi. I know she's really big with the AA (Adult Alternative) crowd. Of course I know Norah Jones quite well, but haven't heard anything of hers since the third album "It's Not Too Late". Ditto for Leann Rimes. I remember when "Blue" and "How Do I Live" were all over radio, but not familiar with anything recent. Part of the problem here is there just aren't many peers of the Beach Boys left. It would have been nice to have an appearance from Christine McVie, in memory of Dennis. I'm sure everyone would want to see Paul McCartney participate, but what would be the point of him showing up and singing "Let it Be" or "Hey Jude"? If the documentary ever happens, that might be something to get excited about. Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: UEF on February 01, 2023, 07:00:56 AM I'm sure everyone would want to see Paul McCartney participate, but what would be the point of him showing up and singing "Let it Be" or "Hey Jude"? When he played at the George Harrison tribute gig he was playing on George's songs. Hell, I even think he played on at least one song about himself - and not in a complimentary way! Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: HeyJude on February 01, 2023, 10:00:46 AM Yeah, I'm sure if McCartney did show up, the point would be to do a Beach Boys song.
I'm not even sure I'd want to see McCartney on a show like this. He didn't sound so great singing "God Only Knows" at that benefit show with Brian back in 2000-whatever. I do think his current voice (read: not in good shape at all) could still be matched to a good song though. But not landing a McCartney-type for this show is I suppose more just a bit emblematic of either not seeking out "legacy artists" or other contemporaries of the BBs, and/or not having the clout/pull to get such acts. Knowing what I know, I think they probably had to bust their asses to get what they *did* get for this show. Like, that was probably achieved by a lot of last-minute cajoling and horse trading. Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Robbie Mac on February 01, 2023, 11:10:11 AM I guess I've really missed the boat on some of these acts. I've heard a few Weezer songs but they're not a band I really know anything about. Whenever I hear their name, I think of "Weezy" on the Jeffersons tv show. I know Belinda Carlisle, but not Brandi. I know she's really big with the AA (Adult Alternative) crowd. Of course I know Norah Jones quite well, but haven't heard anything of hers since the third album "It's Not Too Late". Ditto for Leann Rimes. I remember when "Blue" and "How Do I Live" were all over radio, but not familiar with anything recent. Part of the problem here is there just aren't many peers of the Beach Boys left. It would have been nice to have an appearance from Christine McVie, in memory of Dennis. I'm sure everyone would want to see Paul McCartney participate, but what would be the point of him showing up and singing "Let it Be" or "Hey Jude"? If the documentary ever happens, that might be something to get excited about. Brandi Carlile (no “s” in her surname, BTW) is royalty in the folk/Americana world. She has won 6 Grammys all under the folk/Americana categories and has enough mainstream recognition to have been a regular musical guests on several TV shows (most recently SNL back in December). https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1848488/?ref_=fn_nm_nm_1 She also has several rather famous fans. Elton John (she does a terrific “Madman Across The Water” https://youtu.be/oMeXtjyk488), Joni Mitchell (Brandi was the emcee for Joni’s return to the stage at last year’s Newport Folk Festival https://youtu.be/sN9n41Q67zE), and Sheryl Crow. She might not be Bad Bunny-famous, but she does have some mainstream recognition. . Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Howie Edelson on February 01, 2023, 11:53:44 AM Ken Ehrlich is not producing the Grammy special.
Joel Gallen is. https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0302778/ Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: bossaroo on February 01, 2023, 12:04:12 PM it's pretty funny to see anyone knocking Paul's 80-year old voice on a Brian Wilson message board. sure it ain't what it used to be but I caught Paul on his tour last summer and he gave an incredible performance, all things considered. try singing I've Got A Feeling at any age, let alone 80. not to mention the 35 other songs he did that night. Paul and Brian are like night and day as far as onstage charisma and abilities... he had an entire stadium in the palm of his hand.
Paul is exactly the guest we should want to see on a Beach Boys tribute, although it doesn't seem likely. and the idea of him showing up and doing Hey Jude or Let It Be is laughable, though Brian has given Let It Be the same type of praise that Paul gives God Only Knows. I'm not too excited about any of the names we've been given, and some are downright headscratchers. but Brandi Carlile is definitely pretty huge these days and deserves most of the credit for getting Joni Mitchell to perform again last year... a highly celebrated event with a good amount of star power. Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: HeyJude on February 01, 2023, 01:12:58 PM I bow to nobody in my love for Paul McCartney and his music. He's like THE guy, of all time. I've studied every nook and cranny of his career, of his life. Defended him *here* many times to the most die-hard BB/Brian fans who from time to time have some weird hang-up about the Beatles.
But his voice has been in very rough shape for a number of years now, certainly the last decade give or take. It's indeed a totally different deal from Brian's issues over the years; it's difficult to compare too much. But listen to Howie's Fabcast Beatles podcast; they talk about McCartney's voice in a very honest, direct way, but as die hard fans and scholars of the man. It's kind of like criticizing your kid; you're allowed to do it, but it's not so great coming from others, especially non-fans. I feel I can be pretty blunt about Paul's voice because I've listened to it and studied it and admired it since I could listen to music. And I've stuck with him and his voice though many, many, many ups and downs. I'm pretty much in the same boat as the Fabcast guys. It's *heartbreaking* what has happened to Paul's voice. Yes, yes, of course he still can command an arena, a stadium, all of that. That's how amazing his music is, and how energetic he still is. And his voice even now can be fit into certain material better than others. As fans have pointed out, it's actually the throat-shredders like "Helter Skelter" and "I've Got a Feeling" that, these days, are more palatable in concert compared to him trying to sing like "Maybe I'm Amazed." But I remember listening to that "In the Blink of an Eye" track Paul released several years back, and I was depressed for the rest of the day. It had reached a stage where Paul couldn't even rescue the voice in the studio. Again, I bow to nobody in my love for the man and the musician/singer/writer. And some things still sound better than others. And, I don't even really think too much about trying to figure out exactly *why* his voice has deteriorated so much beyond the normal aging process, or how much we're like supposed to "blame" him for it. Smoking a million pounds of weed for decade after decade didn't help. But I also think some medical or medical-adjacent issues have come into play as well. And I do think "McCartney III" shows him finally starting to figure out how to work with his voice a bit better. I was kind of just riffing previously about Paul being at this BB tribute show. I do think he could be paired with a good song. Not "God Only Knows." But something. Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Lonely Summer on February 05, 2023, 02:45:42 PM McCartney is a guy for me that wore out his welcome years ago. Too much ego and fake thumbs up, and probably just the fact that everybody worships him like he walks on water. Paul was the bright, sunny one of the Beatles, while John and George balanced that some darkness and reality.
The way Macca treated the other guys in Wings still annoys me. But I'm a minority voice here; and no question about it, I do love most of the music Paul made or was a part of from 1962-1985. Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Pretty Funky on February 05, 2023, 06:38:24 PM Ken Ehrlich is not producing the Grammy special. Joel Gallen is. https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0302778/ Thanks Howie. I must have misinterpreted one of the links. Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Pretty Funky on February 05, 2023, 06:41:27 PM I just hope if Mike is there, he is not fasting and has time to meditate before he gets anywhere near a mic. 😉
Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: HeyJude on February 06, 2023, 12:59:02 PM McCartney is a guy for me that wore out his welcome years ago. Too much ego and fake thumbs up, and probably just the fact that everybody worships him like he walks on water. Paul was the bright, sunny one of the Beatles, while John and George balanced that some darkness and reality. The way Macca treated the other guys in Wings still annoys me. But I'm a minority voice here; and no question about it, I do love most of the music Paul made or was a part of from 1962-1985. I mean, his voice is thrashed, and recent albums have been pretty weak. I don't really agree with any of the above, though. Yes, his public persona is rather autopilot. I think all of these guys, from Mike/Beach Boys to Brian to McCartney are all playing to crowds of people who adore/worship them. All of them have fanbases who sometimes skew too far into the overly-forgiving/unquestioning category (e.g. liking "Kisses on the Bottom"). I think an actual deep dive into the Beatles and their lives and music proves the pigeonholing of each of them as a particular type (e.g. sunny vs. "real", etc.) is ill-advised. The Wings relationships vary wildly depending on what we're talking about. He certainly has been too dismissive of them as far as even *mentioning* them. The "Wingspan" doc was embarrassing. That has been somewhat corrected with the "Archive" boxed sets that include ample inclusion of the other members. I think pretty much all of the various Wings members were nowhere near the same league as the guy. That he dropped them creatively is not something I can really disagree with. One can't help but wish he had at times been a bit more gracious about discussing them over the years certainly. But back to the Beach Boys, I certainly feel like it would have been more likely to get him at a BB tribute show in the last 10 years than prior. If he's willing to get on stage with Ringo (which he wasn't often doing prior to the last decade or so), then certainly popping by to remind us he loves "Pet Sounds" certainly seems plausible. But I figure it would have been announced by now. As I've mentioned, from what I've heard, it's been all they could do to get who they have so far. Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Lonely Summer on February 07, 2023, 01:05:16 PM McCartney is a guy for me that wore out his welcome years ago. Too much ego and fake thumbs up, and probably just the fact that everybody worships him like he walks on water. Paul was the bright, sunny one of the Beatles, while John and George balanced that some darkness and reality. The way Macca treated the other guys in Wings still annoys me. But I'm a minority voice here; and no question about it, I do love most of the music Paul made or was a part of from 1962-1985. I mean, his voice is thrashed, and recent albums have been pretty weak. I don't really agree with any of the above, though. Yes, his public persona is rather autopilot. I think all of these guys, from Mike/Beach Boys to Brian to McCartney are all playing to crowds of people who adore/worship them. All of them have fanbases who sometimes skew too far into the overly-forgiving/unquestioning category (e.g. liking "Kisses on the Bottom"). I think an actual deep dive into the Beatles and their lives and music proves the pigeonholing of each of them as a particular type (e.g. sunny vs. "real", etc.) is ill-advised. The Wings relationships vary wildly depending on what we're talking about. He certainly has been too dismissive of them as far as even *mentioning* them. The "Wingspan" doc was embarrassing. That has been somewhat corrected with the "Archive" boxed sets that include ample inclusion of the other members. I think pretty much all of the various Wings members were nowhere near the same league as the guy. That he dropped them creatively is not something I can really disagree with. One can't help but wish he had at times been a bit more gracious about discussing them over the years certainly. But back to the Beach Boys, I certainly feel like it would have been more likely to get him at a BB tribute show in the last 10 years than prior. If he's willing to get on stage with Ringo (which he wasn't often doing prior to the last decade or so), then certainly popping by to remind us he loves "Pet Sounds" certainly seems plausible. But I figure it would have been announced by now. As I've mentioned, from what I've heard, it's been all they could do to get who they have so far. Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Shady on February 08, 2023, 05:51:56 PM So this is in s few hours. The big question, will Brian be there?
I'll be following the various social media platforms for updates Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Shady on February 08, 2023, 06:25:43 PM (https://tinypic.host/images/2023/02/09/20230209_022359.jpg)
Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Robbie Mac on February 08, 2023, 07:03:54 PM So this is in s few hours. The big question, will Brian be there? I'll be following the various social media platforms for updates Brian, Mike, Al, Dave, and Bruce are all there. Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Robbie Mac on February 08, 2023, 07:15:44 PM (https://sharedalbums.b-cdn.net/8d5455fd-a768-425c-8a3e-0723b769c4ed.jpeg?class=display)
Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: GoodVibrations33 on February 08, 2023, 07:21:04 PM Video proof!!
https://www.reddit.com/r/thebeachboys/comments/10xizrm/all_of_the_boys_together_once_again/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/thebeachboys/comments/10xizrm/all_of_the_boys_together_once_again/) Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Lonely Summer on February 08, 2023, 07:25:51 PM So it appears this is like a Kennedy Center Honors show. The honored guests sit in the balcony and watch younger acts do their songs. I wonder if they will at least be interviewed? You know Mike will want to talk up his touring band; Al will mention the 225th reissue of Postcard; and Brian will talk about food. "I love food".
Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: MyDrKnowsItKeepsMeCalm on February 08, 2023, 07:34:07 PM Hey, that's great! The five of them have only been together maybe once or twice since the 2012 tour, correct?
Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Shady on February 08, 2023, 07:41:55 PM (https://sharedalbums.b-cdn.net/8d5455fd-a768-425c-8a3e-0723b769c4ed.jpeg?class=display) This is great!! Hey, that's great! The five of them have only been together maybe once or twice since the 2012 tour, correct? Once from what I recall Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Pretty Funky on February 08, 2023, 08:55:22 PM Hardly formal clothing. All dressed in pretty standard performance attire for them. Hmmm?
Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Bud Shaver on February 08, 2023, 11:10:35 PM (https://sharedalbums.b-cdn.net/8d5455fd-a768-425c-8a3e-0723b769c4ed.jpeg?class=display) Brian looks like he has lost some weight Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Pretty Funky on February 08, 2023, 11:55:56 PM God Only Knows https://youtu.be/jPTQJdIcAPk Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Needleinthehay on February 09, 2023, 12:03:29 AM All the performances are https://www.setlist.fm/venue/dolby-theatre-los-angeles-ca-usa-23d5a8f7.html
Doesn’t show what song they all played but shows all the performers, weezer ended up doing California girls. Really good list of a listers. Really suprised at fall out boy lol doing do you wanna dance Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Tony S on February 09, 2023, 04:24:11 AM Nice to see all five of them together without the pressure of having to perform too. Just sitting there taking it all in. I will say from the picture they do look a bit uncomfortable and even a little bit sad especially by the seating arrangement. Looks like very little interaction amongst the camps but who knows. Bottom line they all showed up and it was good to see that
Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Awesoman on February 09, 2023, 04:49:51 AM Looking forward to seeing this concert and hope it's entertaining. To see perhaps my all-time favorite band (besides the Beatles) receive such a high-profile concert is a delight even if I'm at best indifferent to most of the performers.
As to the discussion of having Paul McCartney potentially attend a tribute show like this, while it would have been cool for him to participate (especially if this concert had been held 15-20 years ago when his voice was in great form), it's perfectly fine that he wasn't involved. He doesn't need to be. He's demonstrated over the years of his love and respect towards the band and doesn't have to keep proving it at this point. I also wanted to add my appreciation that this concert celebrates the band itself, and is not just yet another singular focus of Brian's accomplishments alone...as significant as they may be. The whole band deserves credit for their overall contributions as spotty as some of them have been here and there. Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: HeyJude on February 09, 2023, 06:31:15 AM It's undeniably heartening to see all of them together. And yes, there's also some sadness as well. I won't dwell on it too much here, but obviously there's the feeling of missed opportunities of the last 11 years (or more). Also, while we only have a few grainy stills and grainy video bits of the guys up there together, there is a sense of unease or kind of muted emotions. But we'll need to see more and see/hear more reports to know how much of that was actually present. I think Mike usually seems more muted when he's not like *the* guy, like when it's just he and Bruce at an event.
And, I think seeing Brian here could easily elicit all kinds of responses and feelings. It's a good sign that he's there. Does he seem in good shape? I mean, not particularly I guess? But I suppose on par with recent photos and those 2022 dates. Some or all of what we see may just be par for the course, or a result of just the scattered nature of the few pics we have so far. Is it possible all of the other guys might be a bit sad or humbled to see Brian in rougher shape than back in 2018 at that SiriusXM thing? Quite possibly. Is there still stuff between Al and Mike? Maybe. Is there a clear obvious logic and politics to the seating order, with the two "camps" seated opposite each other and everybody's favorite middleman David Marks in the middle? Probably. If I had to guess, there was a lot of rigamarole involved in how to have any or all of the guys there. My guess is that a performance from Brian was probably firmly off the table, so then it becomes an issue of it being weird to have a 4/5 reunion *performance* (and even weirder if Brian is in attendance but not performing), so then it becomes an issue about whether to have any or all of the guys simply in attendance. Would it have been weird to have some but not all of them simply in the audience? Sorta, but I guess less so than if only some of them actually performed together. So, having all of them seated together simply observing was probably the best case scenario. As for the artists; I've watched a bunch of the performances on YouTube. I guess it's about what I would have expected? It's for prime time on network TV, so it's going to be mostly the recognizable hits. And that unfortunately hampers a lot of the artists, because I think a lot of these singers and bands could find *much* better fits for themselves than doing like "Fun Fun Fun" or "I Get Around" or "California Girls." I haven't seen anything that blew me away. If I didn't know any better, I'd say that Puth guy has *live autotune* turned up to 11. Beach Boys songs are often quite difficult to cover, because you either have to have a *very good* group vocal ensemble, or you end up with a weird stripped-down arrangement. Not that a stripped-down arrangement can't work as well if done creatively. I was not surprised but still disappointed with the John Stamos narration/intros. I'm not trying to bust on the guy; he *read* the lines just fine. No issue with Stamos (assuming he didn't write the lines). But whomever wrote those lines, it's like they used an AI to say the same cliched stuff we've heard forever. Sun, surf, cars, innocence, good times, etc. But I haven't heard anything particularly ear-catching so far. Beck singing "Sloop John B?" It's somehow just really boring. I suppose the Norah Jones "Warmth of the Sun" was interesting to hear in that jazz lounge arrangement, even if I can't *not* fall asleep listening to her perform. The bands doing the up tempo stuff mostly sounded like dorks. I should say that for the most part everybody sounded solid in terms of not like singing off-key or biffing performance elements. I mean, Weezer was hitting those notes on "California Girls." But it all felt kind of perfunctory. In a stop-the-presses moment, Pentatonix did a non-Christmas song. But the music stands suggest they didn't have a ton of time to grasp or rehearse "Heroes and Villains." They sounded okay, but I was surprised it was a little more lacking than I would have thought. I think, while their a cappella format seems an easy and obvious fit for BB material, and especially H&V, they actually don't have enough voices to do it. They've got the percussion guy and the lead guy, leaving only three-part harmony for all of the other parts of the song. But at least it was interesting I guess. I haven't watched all of the songs of course, only some were up on YouTube as of last night. Curious to hear more reports from the show. From a production point of view it looks like everything was pulled together and not like extra shambolic or anything. Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: HeyJude on February 09, 2023, 06:36:11 AM Extra dork awards go to the Struts guy, who kind of came across like a bad Mick Jagger impersonator, and that Charlie Puth guy for seemingly not actually playing his piano and whatever the f*** it was he was wearing. And what sounded like autotune.
Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Alex on February 09, 2023, 06:45:22 AM It's not everyday that "respectable" artists share a bill with radio country acts and top 40 pap.
Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: HeyJude on February 09, 2023, 07:12:01 AM Setlist.fm seems to only have the show logged under each performer, but this is what they show for the song lineup (certainly not in this order):
Beck - Sloop John B Brandi Carlile - In My Room Brandi Carlile & John Legend - God Only Knows Weezer - California Girls Fall Out Boy - Do You Wanna Dance John Legend - Sail on Sailor Lady A - Surfer Girl St. Vincent - You Still Believe In Me Hanson - Barbara Ann Charlie Puth - Wouldn't It Be Nice Norah Jones - The Warmth of the Sun Little Big Town - Help Me Rhonda Take 6 & Michael McDonald - Don't Worry Baby My Morning Jacket - I Get Around LeAnn Rimes - Caroline, No Pentatonix - Heroes and Villains Luke Spiller & Taylor Momsen - Surfin' USA, Fun Fun Fun Andy Grammer - Darlin' Beck & Jim James - Good Vibrations Mumford & Sons - I Know There's An Answer Foster the People - Do It Again I added a few from YouTube that aren't on setlist.fm yet. Could be more stuff missing, or incomplete details still. Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: MyDrKnowsItKeepsMeCalm on February 09, 2023, 07:35:30 AM John Legend doing Sail on Sailor. Nice!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCOAHG5Njnc Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: MyDrKnowsItKeepsMeCalm on February 09, 2023, 07:41:15 AM Pentatonix on Heroes and Villains -- pretty cool to my ears.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9ddcHu4hfQ Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Rocker on February 09, 2023, 09:40:45 AM Nice to see the Boys together. And imo it's probably for the better that they didn't perform. I guess those days are over.
Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: HeyJude on February 09, 2023, 10:00:54 AM I’m surprised there are fans on social media asking why Blondie and Ricky weren’t at this thing. I mean, I’m not saying I would be *opposed* to them appearing, but I can’t fathom why anybody would have expected it. Blondie and Ricky have *never* been featured at any band events of this sort, whether tribute shows, anniversary shows, etc. The band just released a big boxed set that prominently features Blondie and Ricky and properly contextualizes their place in the band’s history.
Barring “Sail on Sailor”, nothing at the show focused on the Blondie/Ricky era. If it was a “Tribute to So Tough and Holland”, then I’d say it would make sense to have Blondie and Ricky there. But I think most of us just feel like, yeah, that’s the core five up there in the balcony. Again, I’d love to see Blondie and Ricky also appear with the guys; I wouldn’t have balked at all at seeing all seven up there. But I don’t feel it’s like a slight that Blondie and Ricky aren’t there. Also, I think fans scoffing at their exclusion seem to not understand the band/corporate/interpersonal politics that *still* permeate everything these guys do, even in a situation like this when it’s mostly outside producers putting on the show, and even with Iconic owning a majority stake in the band. Even then, there’s still politics and I think adding Blondie and Ricky would complicate things (to say nothing of whether they would even want to show; Ricky seems pretty low key when it comes to BB stuff especially.) Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: juggler on February 09, 2023, 10:52:20 AM I'd bet my last dollar that if someone had asked members of this forum to assign seats to the five based on public knowledge of cordial interpersonal relationships (or lack thereof), 98% of us would probably have come up with precisely the same Brian, Al, David, Bruce, Mike lineup that happened. :lol
Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: HeyJude on February 09, 2023, 11:10:30 AM Just like the infamous "striped shirts" debate on the SiriusXM thing from 2018, there are all sorts of interpretations of that seating arrangement, from the very cynical to the pragmatic to the optimistic. But sure, it makes sense. The more pragmatic/optimistic interpretation would be that since Al has been with Brian more in recent years, he's more familiar with Brian's situation/needs, and Brian is more comfortable with him. The cynical reading of course is that they keep Brian and Mike as far away from each other as possible (and then Al and Mike the next farthest away from each other as possible, etc.).
I suspect they of course all talked/met up for at least some amount of time before and/or after the show. I think the degree to which anybody conversed with Brian would depend a lot on precisely how he's doing these days, and we still don't know exactly. That he showed up is certainly a better sign than *not* showing up. Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: HeyJude on February 09, 2023, 11:14:02 AM I'm always curious how the song selection happens, whether it's the producers or the artists. I'm sure it's some of both in most cases.
But it's worth noting that, as far as I can tell, "Kokomo" was NOT performed. Did that even cross Mike's mind? Does he care? All relatively interesting questions. Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: HeyJude on February 09, 2023, 11:17:50 AM While the overall slant of the song selections is not surprising at all, I guess I'm a tiny bit surprised there wasn't *something* a bit more out of the ordinary. This was all "Sounds of Summer" selections plus a couple "Pet Sounds" tracks. The only even slightly arguably "obscure" song was "I Know There's An Answer." But I can't not be a bit disappointed that after years of PS and Smile boxed sets, and other stuff honing in other eras, we still get "Barbara Ann" and "Do You Wanna Dance."
Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: MyDrKnowsItKeepsMeCalm on February 09, 2023, 12:12:19 PM Just like the infamous "striped shirts" debate on the SiriusXM thing from 2018... Oh man! I forgot all about Shirtgate. Too funny. :lol Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Bud Shaver on February 09, 2023, 06:01:20 PM Brian and the Lovester with what looks like Al behind Mike.
(https://i.ibb.co/YRf0ZLF/BB23z.jpg) Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: juggler on February 09, 2023, 06:20:06 PM Nice to see them shaking hands. Despite all the acrimony, lawsuits, pettiness (nearly all of it ML's fault, IMO), Brian and Mike are, at the end of the day, still family. And once upon a time, long before the BBs, they were close friends, attending church youth nights together, hanging out, etc. Mike's book recounts his taking Brian along as his plus-one on Senior Day at Dorsey High in 1958.
Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: HeyJude on February 10, 2023, 09:14:57 AM I think it's worth keeping in mind that Mike (and Bruce) have probably not seen Brian in person since that 2018 SiriusXM event.
I don't want to be overly dramatic or make any assumptions about Brian's shape, but I think it's quite possible that Mike (and Bruce, and probably David) may have some pretty strong emotions involved in seeing Brian in rougher shape. Like, I'm sure they've heard how last year's tour went down, at least the broad strokes. But seeing and talking to him, if he's still having a rough time as it appears he is to some degree, it may have been still jarring and emotional. What I hope is that if/when Mike (because Bruce and Dave seem to rarely do interviews) talks about this, if he did find it tough to see Brian in rough shape, he shows some tact and is able to convey his emotions about it without being too blunt or unsubtle about it. I'm not trying to anticipate a negative thing about Mike, but I know in the past he hasn't been the best at speaking with true empathy about Brian, where it sometimes kind of comes across as patronizing and/or pity. He did this a bit many years ago talking about Carl. But I'm hoping this meeting between all of them was a good thing for them, whatever came of it or however it went down. Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: juggler on February 10, 2023, 10:30:52 AM What I hope is that if/when Mike (because Bruce and Dave seem to rarely do interviews) talks about this, if he did find it tough to see Brian in rough shape, he shows some tact and is able to convey his emotions about it without being too blunt or unsubtle about it. I'm not trying to anticipate a negative thing about Mike, but I know in the past he hasn't been the best at speaking with true empathy about Brian, where it sometimes kind of comes across as patronizing and/or pity. He did this a bit many years ago talking about Carl. I'd imagine it's more of a "when" than an "if." Summer will approach, the Mike & Bruce tour's advance publicity machine will do whatever it does, and the entertainment reporter from the Puyallup Herald (or similar) will reach out to ML for a telephone interview. After the usual pleasantries, said reporter will inquire about Cousin Brian. Will ML take the high road? I'd like to hope so. Or it will be along the lines of, "You know, I love my cousin Brian, but he wrecked himself with drugs and bad habits. Same thing for his brothers. I, on the other hand, through meditation and diet, will probably live to 150. Oh, and did I mention that Uncle Murry cheated me?" Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: patsy6 on February 10, 2023, 01:03:19 PM I so much appreciate those in the audience taking these videos for us to see, especially since we don't know when the TV special will air. I do look forward to seeing it when it does air, though, as I'd like to hear improved sound and see different camera angles, including shots of the backup band and singers. Lest we forget, they too were singing and/or playing the Beach Boys' parts. Just shows how talented our Boys and their side musicians were and are, that they were/are able to sing those difficult parts and play their instruments at the same time, and put on a great live show with significantly less people onstage than were there at the Dolby Theatre.
Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Shady on February 10, 2023, 05:27:12 PM Nice to see Brian and Mike together, God know when we will see that again.
I believe this will air on paramount plus Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: All Summer Long on February 10, 2023, 09:49:35 PM I know it would have been impossible to get Brian to perform, and that there was a 99.9% chance it wasn’t going to happen, but I wish they had done a couple songs. The odds of that getting them all in the same place for the third time since 2012 are pretty much 0, unfortunately, and someone (hell, maybe even Stamos?) should have tried to make that clear to them.
Still not impressed art all by the lineup outside of Michael McDonald and Brandi Carlile (but at least Jim James has a connection to the group through Brian). Do we know who the backing band was? I assume it wasn’t, but it would have been Brian’s group plus Scott Totten and John Cowsill, just like the 2012 tour, and how it should have been if we could have had the rest of a brief reunited group performance. I know it was an unrealistic dream, but I’m still disappointed. :'( EDIT: Forgot to mention that it’s great but also bittersweet to see them all together again, just like HeyJude detailed. I also think it would have been nice to have Blondie and Ricky (or at least Blondie, given his last decade of work with Brian and Al) there with the core 5 as well. ANOTHER EDIT: I was just on the Carnie interview thread and patsy6’s post about Brian and Carnie made me wonder again why Wilson Phillips didn’t perform at this like they did at Brian’s tribute in 2001? Couldn’t they have been given Good Vibrations or a deep cut? I believe this will air on paramount plus Just curious, Shady, when was that announced? Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: HeyJude on February 10, 2023, 10:12:35 PM Carnie mentioned Wilson Phillips was asked to perform, but they weren't all available on the date.
Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Don Malcolm on February 11, 2023, 01:04:35 AM I think we probably should cut the feckless kids some slack, ya know? I think most of 'em were putting out their best effort, and there were really no outright embarrassments amongst the clips I've seen on YouTube (though I was seriously underwhelmed by Mumblecore and Sons' version of "I Know There's An Answer"). There's a level of unavoidable smarm that's sort of baked into shows like this, with all the ultra-anodyne between-song (award) patter--though they could really have avoided foisting Stamos off on us yet again. And I'm not sure that I want to hear any of these folk attempting to tackle any truly deep cuts.
What might have been a nice touch: adding in songs written by each member of the band (though I can't imagine any of the folk on stage pulling off "Disney Girls"--and while such an approach might have gotten us "Long Promised Road," "It's About Time" or "Forever", and "California", the doors would've been blown wide open for "Kokomo," which is doubtless what Mike would've put up for "his" tune). If Wilson Phillips could've played, they might have picked something like "This Whole World" or "All I Wanna Do," either of which would've been most welcome. And if they were going to find a place for Blondie, having him perform--"Wild Honey"--might have been the way to go. And they could've reached back to the C50 tour and have David strap on the guitar for "Pet Sounds." After all of his years in the wilderness, that would've been a nice gesture. The strength of the music is so solid that I often found myself moved in spite of myself. Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Emdeeh on February 11, 2023, 06:31:53 AM The tribute show will appear on CBS and on Paramount+.
Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: All Summer Long on February 12, 2023, 11:03:18 PM Carnie mentioned Wilson Phillips was asked to perform, but they weren't all available on the date. Hi HeyJude, thanks for the update. I wonder the exact unavailability, though I know we’ll never know (unless I try to ask Carnie on Instagram and see what happens). EDIT: HeyJude, was that in the new BeachBoysTalk interview with Carnie (that I haven’t yet been able to watch), by any chance? If Wilson Phillips could've played, they might have picked something like "This Whole World" … This Whole World by Wilson Phillips would have been wonderful; I happened to be thinking this myself too, Don Malcolm. Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Don Malcolm on February 13, 2023, 04:07:28 PM If Wilson Phillips could've played, they might have picked something like "This Whole World" … This Whole World by Wilson Phillips would have been wonderful; I happened to be thinking this myself too, Don Malcolm. Great minds... ;) On another level, it would've been really appropriate as well...remember that Carnie & Wendy's mom and aunt did a cover version of "This Whole World" on their SPRING LP. So it could've been a double tribute...and that would've been really cool! Ah, well... Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: HeyJude on February 14, 2023, 06:22:35 AM Not to be cynical, but I think had Wilson Phillips shown, the best we could probably hope for as far as a deep cut would be like "You're So Good To Me" like they did at that show years ago. Clearly the producers of this show wanted almost everything to be lifted right off of "Sounds of Summer." I mean, I'm sure non-uberfan artists would tend towards hits anyway, so it doubly makes sense that the show would feature mostly hits.
On the other hand, these shows love brevity and "This Whole World" is very short. Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Wirestone on February 14, 2023, 08:47:30 AM EDIT: HeyJude, was that in the new BeachBoysTalk interview with Carnie (that I haven’t yet been able to watch), by any chance? I’m not Jude, but Carnie did talk about it. Wilson Phillips were invited to perform, but Chynna was in New York City and unable to get away. Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: HeyJude on February 14, 2023, 09:33:57 AM EDIT: HeyJude, was that in the new BeachBoysTalk interview with Carnie (that I haven’t yet been able to watch), by any chance? I’m not Jude, but Carnie did talk about it. Wilson Phillips were invited to perform, but Chynna was in New York City and unable to get away. And I'm sure many BB fans in their brain immediately then wondered why simply Carnie and Wendy couldn't perform, especially considering they've released multiple albums on their own (and perform with Al often to boot). It may well be that "Wilson Phillips" is the bare minimum name recognition the show was looking for. Either that, or "scheduling conflict" was used to explain away some other reason. Not trying to bake conspiracy theories here. I would imagine it was a legit scheduling conflict. I do always wonder how hard it would be for these people to fly in and fly out of LA for one evening, though. They wouldn't need much rehearsal or anything. Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: CenturyDeprived on February 15, 2023, 04:26:38 AM I imagine the lack of deep cuts, or even anything remotely approaching deep cuts, that were performed on the show probably speaks to the desperation of television ratings these days… The fear of audience tuning out is most likely the culprit in my humble opinion.
Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Awesoman on February 15, 2023, 06:33:42 AM I imagine the lack of deep cuts, or even anything remotely approaching deep cuts, that were performed on the show probably speaks to the desperation of television ratings these days… The fear of audience tuning out is most likely the culprit in my humble opinion. They probably could have dug deeper but I wouldn't exactly call songs like "Caroline, No", "Heroes & Villains" and especially "Sail On, Sailor" to be among the band's most well-known of repertoire. "This Whole World" as well as some choice Dennis, Al and Carl songs would have been nice to hear performed though. Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: HeyJude on February 15, 2023, 08:55:34 AM "Heroes and Villains" is on "Sounds of Summer", so I'd say it hews closer to "well known" than deep cut. "Caroline, No" is off of "Pet Sounds", which is by leaps and bounds their most well-known studio album. "Sail on Sailor" is the only track that at some point got the band any FM/Classic Rock radio airplay.
I honestly had forgotten that "Sail on Sailor" wasn't on the original single-disc "Sounds of Summer", which seems insane, but I know that single disc was jam packed about as much as it could have been. Frankly, the three tracks above I'd wager are at least slightly *more well known* than a few of the songs that ended up on "Sounds of Summer." I'd wager more people know those songs than like "Getcha Back" or the BB cover of "Come Go With Me." Of course, the super-uninitiated that just know like "Kokomo" and "Surfin' USA" aren't going to know most ANY of these songs. As I've said, I think the track selections make sense for this show; I'm not surprised. But I do think it was almost as conservative as a song selection could possible be, however it happened. Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Awesoman on February 16, 2023, 07:05:45 AM "Heroes and Villains" is on "Sounds of Summer", so I'd say it hews closer to "well known" than deep cut. "Caroline, No" is off of "Pet Sounds", which is by leaps and bounds their most well-known studio album. "Sail on Sailor" is the only track that at some point got the band any FM/Classic Rock radio airplay. I honestly had forgotten that "Sail on Sailor" wasn't on the original single-disc "Sounds of Summer", which seems insane, but I know that single disc was jam packed about as much as it could have been. Frankly, the three tracks above I'd wager are at least slightly *more well known* than a few of the songs that ended up on "Sounds of Summer." I'd wager more people know those songs than like "Getcha Back" or the BB cover of "Come Go With Me." Of course, the super-uninitiated that just know like "Kokomo" and "Surfin' USA" aren't going to know most ANY of these songs. As I've said, I think the track selections make sense for this show; I'm not surprised. But I do think it was almost as conservative as a song selection could possible be, however it happened. I would argue that all three songs I listed are probably second-tier songs in terms of overall familiarity and popularity among the casual fans despite the points you made about them. These are songs the general public *might* become familiar with if they dig a little deeper into the band's catalog. But the casual fan will still easily identify songs like "Don't Worry Baby", "Fun, Fun, Fun" , "I Get Around" and "Kokomo" before they will the said material in question. "Caroline, No" was always a choice album cut despite them releasing it as a single under Brian's name. "Heroes & Villains" was a moderate hit for the group that was completely overshadowed by "Good Vibrations" despite both songs appearing on the same album. Hell, "Sail On, Sailor" doesn't even initially sound like a traditional Beach Boys track upon first listen and it was a complete rarity to hear on the radio anytime after the 70's and especially after the 80's. And with Blondie tackling the lead vocal I couldn't fault anyone for not immediately identifying this song as coming from the Beach Boys. If the Grammy team behind this concert were truly playing it completely safe we definitely would not have heard these songs performed at all. But yeah, it would have been nice if they had dug a little deeper and highlighted a song or two written by the other guys such as Dennis's "Forever", Carl's "Feel Flows" and even Al's "Susie Cincinnati". But I believe what we got was a pretty fair selection all things considered. Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: juggler on February 16, 2023, 10:08:32 PM "Heroes & Villains" was a moderate hit for the group that was completely overshadowed by "Good Vibrations" despite both songs appearing on the same album. The H&V 45 was a hell of a record, IMO, but it didn't top its predecessor sonically or production-wise. The mix is a bit muddy compared to GV, and I imagine that it didn't particularly "pop" on AM radio. It's a shame. Chuck Britz, who certainly knew what he was talking about, spoke years later of early '67 H&V mixes that he considered better than GV, but that's not what the public got. Ultimately, though, I don't think it's fair to blame H&V's failure on being overshadowed by GV. Smiley Smile was such a dud commercially, and GV's inclusion therein was approx. 10-11 months after the 45 had shocked the world. Even the H&V 45 was, what? 8 months after GV? If the public weren't ready for a new hit from the BBs then, they never would be. I think there's something to the hypothesis that the long delay between GV and H&V caused the record-buying public to lose interest in the group. Out of sight, out of mind. It seems crazy to even say it now, but it's useful to remember that the Beatles released Penny Lane/Strawberry Fields Forever because EMI and the Beatles themselves perceived that they were "fading a bit" in the public mind. Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Awesoman on February 18, 2023, 08:54:59 AM "Heroes & Villains" was a moderate hit for the group that was completely overshadowed by "Good Vibrations" despite both songs appearing on the same album. The H&V 45 was a hell of a record, IMO, but it didn't top its predecessor sonically or production-wise. The mix is a bit muddy compared to GV, and I imagine that it didn't particularly "pop" on AM radio. It's a shame. Chuck Britz, who certainly knew what he was talking about, spoke years later of early '67 H&V mixes that he considered better than GV, but that's not what the public got. Ultimately, though, I don't think it's fair to blame H&V's failure on being overshadowed by GV. Smiley Smile was such a dud commercially, and GV's inclusion therein was approx. 10-11 months after the 45 had shocked the world. Even the H&V 45 was, what? 8 months after GV? If the public weren't ready for a new hit from the BBs then, they never would be. I think there's something to the hypothesis that the long delay between GV and H&V caused the record-buying public to lose interest in the group. Out of sight, out of mind. It seems crazy to even say it now, but it's useful to remember that the Beatles released Penny Lane/Strawberry Fields Forever because EMI and the Beatles themselves perceived that they were "fading a bit" in the public mind. Agreed. There were a number of factors that contributed to why "H&V" did not become a bigger hit than it could have been, none of them having to do with the quality of the song itself. The point I was making is that because of its borderline lukewarm commercial response, it's not as well known as some of the group's bigger hits, even if it does sometimes pop up on greatest hits compilations. Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Bud Shaver on March 14, 2023, 08:50:45 AM Here's the first promo for the special.
https://ew.com/tv/beach-boys-tribute-concert-special-first-look-lineup/?utm_campaign=entertainmentweekly_entertainmentweekly&utm_content=manual&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_term=641086e09be59e0001309e4d&fbclid=IwAR0IsKiUMpc3RhQU1tpgJkgoAROcUIdAKYT0hhMJ-qi_hewCq3sWdC4SiKM Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Bud Shaver on March 14, 2023, 08:54:33 AM Screen grab from the video in the EW article. Brian looks frail.
(https://i.ibb.co/pvw05Z7/bb23BB.jpg) (https://ibb.co/C581Dvc) Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: patsy6 on March 14, 2023, 09:46:35 AM The official announcement from the Beach Boys website today. Tune in on Sunday, April 9 at 8 PM ET/PT on CBS.
https://us.umusic-online.com/4YWS-6KME-9E79D5B66C46A0D21RTOSZFB048C0ABCCFABB8/cr.aspx Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: SurfGeko61 on March 14, 2023, 10:07:23 PM Cool. Very much looking forward to seeing this with the added comments guests of Elton John, Bruce Springsteen etc, and maybe if real lucky, although not specifically announced or shown in article or trailer all or some of The Beach Boys comments on the night.
It was great getting the teasers and phone video from folks in audience, but really excited to see the production with high quality video and sound and reaction shots etc. Would be extra cool if timing just happens to hit at right time and this becomes a big time thing and lots of people see this. Never know what will make a mark and what doesn’t. Bet nobody or very few expected a small appearance on some sitcom or a song on a Tom Cruise movie, or Endless Summer Greatest hits album or a 4th of July show, on off on again getting President attention would have such an impact. Of course beyond the major impact the music the band and have had overall on the culture now 60 years later. As a deep big time fan like most everyone on this board, always hope lots of others get to feel the impact and emotion and fun this band has had on me. So if some of these bands and this special bring in some more fans. Win Win Win! Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Bud Shaver on March 14, 2023, 10:14:20 PM Would be extra cool if timing just happens to hit at right time and this becomes a big time thing and lots of people see this. Typically Sunday is the most watched night in the US. This show will be following one of the most popular shows on TV, 60 Minutes. It should do quite well and it will get a lot of promotion during the NCAA basketball tournament. Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Musketeer on March 15, 2023, 01:25:45 PM Would be extra cool if timing just happens to hit at right time and this becomes a big time thing and lots of people see this. Typically Sunday is the most watched night in the US. This show will be following one of the most popular shows on TV, 60 Minutes. It should do quite well and it will get a lot of promotion during the NCAA basketball tournament. Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Bud Shaver on March 15, 2023, 03:51:42 PM Except it's Easter Sunday You make an eggsellent point But I don't think it will matter. Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Bud Shaver on March 16, 2023, 08:02:13 PM The Masters will be on CBS on April 9, as well, which is one of the most popular sporting events on TV.
Those core demographics scream Beach Boys fan Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Rocker on March 18, 2023, 02:51:20 AM (https://sharedalbums.b-cdn.net/8d5455fd-a768-425c-8a3e-0723b769c4ed.jpeg?class=display) "[Brian]: You know, there's nothing like grand opera. [Al]: Yep and that was nothing like it." https://kidadl.com/quotes/statler-and-waldorf-quotes-from-the-muppets-old-hecklers ;D Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Pretty Funky on March 22, 2023, 06:20:38 PM Al Jardine on the tribute. Seems to indicate the members were interviewed at least.
https://youtu.be/Pe4H2LjThrw Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Rocker on March 24, 2023, 02:24:47 PM The Beach Boys' Bruce Johnston Speaks On "A GRAMMY Salute To The Beach Boys"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD3m7WdM75s The Beach Boys' Al Jardine Speaks In Awe About "A GRAMMY Salute To The Beach Boys" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe4H2LjThrw Watch Norah Jones Reflect On The Beach Boys' Timelessness https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWCBG3u_x9Y Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Sam_BFC on March 24, 2023, 03:56:47 PM Do we know anything about the house band for the night?
Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: MyDrKnowsItKeepsMeCalm on March 24, 2023, 06:00:25 PM The Beach Boys' Bruce Johnston Speaks On "A GRAMMY Salute To The Beach Boys" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD3m7WdM75s Team Striped Shirt representing! ;D Title: Re: New Tidbit on the Televised Beach Boys Tribute Concert Post by: Emdeeh on March 28, 2023, 07:16:44 AM CBS is running ads for the show in prime time.
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